When are RIVAL going to fix these BUGS???

[silcnlayc]

Ill email for an update and report any new findings here.

On a closing binge...I have closed out all the Rival casinos as I sit here... not getting another penny until the paytables are changed to a decent payout.

(I also just closed 3Dice today. The blackjack is horrendous. Until I see that they are a little more fairer in their games I will stay away)

Some lucky casino is gonna get a lot of play now that I removed 5 casinos so far...

Hopefully this will help others in the long run and the word gets out to these casinos that many are not taking their garbage anymore.

Didn't mean to derail the thread a tad...sorry...

 

[babs7262]

I didnt read all the pages and since I personally just have one glitch at absolute rival Ill just say it here


Reels of Fortune: The number and lines get all mushed up, like Ill try to play just one coin but 2 is only available in other numbers are on top of it

Also, the sound goes to a buzz

Coins: The number coins played is off. I thought I was playing 4 coins and it played 9, it was all mushed together with numbers on top of each other

Scary Rich: Only problem i have is during free spins, it shows the vampire for like 20 seconds expanding when I didnt even win anything

 

[chuchu59]

Babs,

I have the same problem with Reels of Fortune. After several minutes of play it buzzes.

For coins, sometimes after a feature, when I press the spin button it goes down to a single line bet and I only notice this after several spins.

Didnt experience what you had on Scary though.

 

[Mousey]

With their most recent updates, I'm experiencing a real PITA glitch with their software. (DaVinci, Pantasia, Paradise8 all do this.)

They all start up maxed/full screen. That's the way I played last, and that's fine. Problem is, now when I close the casino, or try to go back to 'regular' small screen, the screen flickers, goes black... and that's it! I waited and waited... a full 10 minutes... finally got the "no signal" applet from my monitor, but that's it. I C/A/D 2 or 3 times, but that doesn't do a lot of good when the screen is totally black and I can't see WTF I'm to click on. I had to push the button (hard shut down *shudder*) on my tower to get my system/monitor back.

Like a fool, I fired one up again, full screen, tried going to options/uncheck fullscreen, screen flickered, goes black and there I am with a black screen pressing whatever buttons to try to get my screen back.

I have Intel duo core 4400@ 2 GHz /2G RAM/VISTA/IE7. Don't know about my video but I think it's integrated but with all proper updates.

Any suggestions?

 

[silcnlayc]

Any suggestions?

Same issues here, so I updated my video driver online with the computer manufacturer and now it works a lot better and when it goes crazy (big/small/big/small) just hitting the "escape" key works now.

 

[Zodiac]

removed

 

[KasinoKing]

I had to push the button (hard shut down *shudder*) on my tower to get my system/monitor back.

Any suggestions?

Instead of shutting down, right-click on a blank section of the bar at the bottom of your screen, open your 'Task Manager', pick the 'Applications' tab, select the casino in question & hit 'End Task'. (Assuming Windows OS)

I've not seen this glitch myself, but it sounds awful!
I've been meaning to re-visit this thread for some time now as most of the glitches STILL have NOT been fixed!
Have not had the time though. Maybe soon...

KK

 

[Mousey]

Good suggestions, but there is no blank bar... when this happens, my entire screen is blank/black... can't see mouse cursor, can't see anything... It's as if the monitor is off. Escape button did nothing... alt/tab did nothing... control/alt/delete was probably working but couldn't see it (LOL)... randomly moving mouse and clicking did nothing...

I tried doing ctl/alt/del and then just hitting 'Enter' without moving the mouse or anything... nothing...

Anyway... I seem to have integrated Intel video (and yes, I hate integrated video, it sucks), and my PC mfr's website says I'm up to date.

 

[zap987]

I had this issue some months ago and it was my monitor that was broken. Apparently a very common problem with some Viewsonic models if that's what you have.

 

[Mousey]

Nope I've got a Gateway 24" LCD with DVI cable...

Then again... there's no telling what's causing it... I managed to get Pantasia 'reduced' before it locked up and blacked out, so now it opens normally and plays ok in the 'regular' size. Will try to get at least one of the others... maybe Paradise8 ... out of full screen... will uninstall DaVinci's. Don't need so many anyway...

 

[aka23]

Has anyone contacted Rival about these bugs? I saw a blackjack bug a couple months ago and mentioned it to Rival. It took awhile, but they did eventually correct it.

 

[Mousey]

Who's the best contact for tech problems? CS always think uninstall, reinstall fixes everything.

edit: I will PM RobRival with link to this....

 

[KasinoKing]

Good morning!
Another new Rival slot - time to bump this thread again.

Rock on! A pretty good addition to the Rival collection IMHO. So what's wrong with it? Well not an awful lot to be honest, but still a lack of full correct information on the paytable & in the rules <sigh> yes, AGAIN!

OK, lets start with the free-spins. Look at this paytable:

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Right, hands up anyone who can see where it tells you how many free-spins and at what multiplier you get for 3 or more drum-kits?
No-one? Oh.

Let's look at the rules then:

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Bit of a strange way of writing it, but OK just 5 free-spins for 3 or more drum-kits.
So what's the multiplier....? er... dunno!
Well it's actually x3 - this is mentioned right at the top of the rules, but not in the section about the free-spins.

What happens if you hit 3 or more drum-kits again in the free-spins - another 5 spins added right? Bonus payout?
Er... no - nothings happens at all - no spins, no wins!
This isn't mentioned anywhere that I can see, but it happened when I was playing it.

OK, glance back up to that paytable please. Can you see in the middle where it says "During your Encore, hit the drums 5 consecutive times to go out with a bang!"
So what the flip does that mean???
Does some angry rocker burst into your room & shoot you through the head, or what?
This isn't explained anywhere in the rules (not even mentioned).

OK, just one final moan, read the highlighted bit:-

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Pretty clear that - the wilds ONLY expand if there's a win.
Where's my flipping win then???

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OK, in normal spins there was no problem, but in my 5 free-spins this happened 2 or 3 times.
(This shot was taken after the last of my 5 free-spins)

Overview; the free-spin feature is rubbish frankly, unless you get a lucky big hit with lots of expanding wilds. But as you only have 5 free-spins, this isn't terribly likely really.
The true skill guitar playing bonus is the best thing about this slot, and probably the only way you will profit is by getting this a lot of times in a small number of spins.

And finally; anyone playing a generous WRx100 bonus at a Rival would probably be best to avoid this one; the return is quoted as about 94%...

Have a nice day!
KK

 

[chuchu59]

Good stamina KK. Pity most of what you say fall on deaf ears.

 

[winbig]

Good morning!
Another new Rival slot - time to bump this thread again.

Rock on! A pretty good addition to the Rival collection IMHO. So what's wrong with it? Well not an awful lot to be honest, but still a lack of full correct information on the paytable & in the rules <sigh> yes, AGAIN!

OK, lets start with the free-spins. Look at this paytable:

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Right, hands up anyone who can see where it tells you how many free-spins and at what multiplier you get for 3 or more drum-kits?
No-one? Oh.

Let's look at the rules then:

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Bit of a strange way of writing it, but OK just 5 free-spins for 3 or more drum-kits.
So what's the multiplier....? er... dunno!
Well it's actually x3 - this is mentioned right at the top of the rules, but not in the section about the free-spins.

What happens if you hit 3 or more drum-kits again in the free-spins - another 5 spins added right? Bonus payout?
Er... no - nothings happens at all - no spins, no wins!
This isn't mentioned anywhere that I can see, but it happened when I was playing it.

OK, glance back up to that paytable please. Can you see in the middle where it says "During your Encore, hit the drums 5 consecutive times to go out with a bang!"
So what the flip does that mean???
Does some angry rocker burst into your room & shoot you through the head, or what?
This isn't explained anywhere in the rules (not even mentioned).

OK, just one final moan, read the highlighted bit:-

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Pretty clear that - the wilds ONLY expand if there's a win.
Where's my flipping win then???

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OK, in normal spins there was no problem, but in my 5 free-spins this happened 2 or 3 times.
(This shot was taken after the last of my 5 free-spins)

Overview; the free-spin feature is rubbish frankly, unless you get a lucky big hit with lots of expanding wilds. But as you only have 5 free-spins, this isn't terribly likely really.
The true skill guitar playing bonus is the best thing about this slot, and probably the only way you will profit is by getting this a lot of times in a small number of spins.

And finally; anyone playing a generous WRx100 bonus at a Rival would probably be best to avoid this one; the return is quoted as about 94%...

Have a nice day!
KK

There's another Rival slot that expands the 5th wheel if it's wild, too, even when it doesn't complete a 5oak win....very annoying, to say that least. Galactic something....the 2nd one, the islot...
You would think they would have learned from their past mistakes, but apparently not...

 

[Zodiac]

I have much trouble with this new game and at Paradise8, because i got the bonus round and don't come out of the game.

I can play the bonus game and will get also the coins but then i lose every time my internet connection, so that i can't finish the round.

There comes no continue button or change back to game.

Every time i will login again the sofware say that i did not complete the transaction in Rock ON.

Tried to uninstall and re-install what support said but nothing helps.

A technical responsible must cancel my last transaction that i can play other games, hope they will do.

Otherwise i have no chance to come out of the game and play further at Paradise8.

And i have a $126 Balance there (deposit + bonus)

Other idea maybe would be to close my old account and register a new one with all the privileges out of the old account.

 

[KasinoKing]

Honestly guys, you really COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP!

As you know, Rock On disappeared from all Rival casinos about a week ago - but now it's back!

So I check the rules to see what's changed;
These are the OLD rules:
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And these are the brand NEW rules:

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Oh good - they've made the free-spins NO-LOSE ones!
Confirmed further down in the NEW rules:

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And here is what I got when I hit those NO-LOSE free-spins:

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Notice reel 1 is totally wild & I have won at least my bet back on the first 2 spins played.... NOT!!!




Rival, you really have taken INCOMPETENCE to a whole new level!

Cretins.

 

[ksech]

I tried this slot and didn't like it. Out of about 300 spins I hit a 3 drums twice. My "big" wins combined were about $3.00. And my reflexes aren't fast enough for the guitar bonus thingy. (I totally suck at Guitar hero, so this just made me frustrated enough not to play this game again).

 

[LOOKAWAY]

Hi, they took rock on down because a player hit four wilds during free spins and was paid zero coins.

 

[KasinoKing]

Hi, they took rock on down because a player hit four wilds during free spins and was paid zero coins.

Where did you get those screenshots from - are they yours?
Also, why does it say wagered 0 at the top?

All very odd...

 

[chuchu59]

Honestly guys, you really COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP!

As you know, Rock On disappeared from all Rival casinos about a week ago - but now it's back!

So I check the rules to see what's changed;
These are the OLD rules:
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And these are the brand NEW rules:

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Oh good - they've made the free-spins NO-LOSE ones!
Confirmed further down in the NEW rules:

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And here is what I got when I hit those NO-LOSE free-spins:

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Notice reel 1 is totally wild & I have won at least my bet back on the first 2 spins played.... NOT!!!




Rival, you really have taken INCOMPETENCE to a whole new level!

Cretins.

These are called no-lose spins so if you ask them to explain they will proabably tell you they are free spins and you wont lose a single cent on them so why are you complaining?

Seriously, if these truly become no-lose spins they will either have to adjust the payouts to make up for it or the feature will be harder to get. If not, we may have been given a raw deal right from the beginning with a low payout percentage.

 

[Nifty29]

Yes there should be some minor adjustments to the rules:

The Drum Set (Freespin Scatter) Icon is a Scatter Icon which triggers the Can't Win Free Spin feature. If 3 or more these icons appear on the Reels you will receive 5,5,or 5 free spins. The game will enter a Can't Win mode for the duration of the spins. See below for more information on this feature.

Any wins received during these free spins will payout at 3X the payout listed on the paytable!

These Free spins are Can't Win free spins! For the duration of the free spins, the first reel will always be wild and additional 2-icon payouts will be added to the paytable. The end result of this is that all big wins will be harder to achieve, and you will win at least your original bet x 0 back for each spin. The payback of the free spins is thus at least 0,0,or 0 X your bet but the possible payouts are limitless!

Seriously though, its pretty sloppy really. You will also notice that the actual paytable still gabbles on about 3 drums triggering the 'Encore Free Spins where if you hit drums in every round you end up with a bang!' which has clearly changed so isnt accurate.

PLUS - what does it mean by 'if you hit the drums 5 consecutive times in the free spins you go out with a bang'??? If it means that you get a drum symbol in every free spin, then I should have been paid a few times. It certainly doesnt say how many drums you have to 'hit' in each free spin!! Man what a debacle!

 

[chuchu59]

Where did you get those screenshots from - are they yours?
Also, why does it say wagered 0 at the top?

All very odd...

Wagering 0 means free spins KK. It says the same thing when you check your play history at the cashier.

 

[thelawnet]

That's not considered a bug. All the casinos only give you fun mode in the hopes of getting you to make a deposit.

Intercasino fun mode doesn't do this.

 

[KasinoKing]

Seriously though, its pretty sloppy really.

That's an understatement!
Why I get SO very wound up by this is because it isn't first time Rival have screwed up the rules, or the 2nd, or 3rd, or even 4th... I've actually lost count now.
Most people learn from their mistakes and improve themselves - Rival simply do not.

You will also notice that the actual paytable still gabbles on about 3 drums triggering the 'Encore Free Spins where if you hit drums in every round you end up with a bang!' which has clearly changed so isnt accurate.

PLUS - what does it mean by 'if you hit the drums 5 consecutive times in the free spins you go out with a bang'??? If it means that you get a drum symbol in every free spin, then I should have been paid a few times. It certainly doesnt say how many drums you have to 'hit' in each free spin!!

I think it's one or more drums per spin; when I had the free-spins I did notice the drums were animated and made a sound (I think?) when they hit, indicating something significant. But I didn't get them EVERY spin, so I don't know yet what my "Bang" is going to be.


By the way, I managed to get hold of a photo of Rival's technical team, which could explain a thing or two...

 

[Nifty29]

I think it's one or more drums per spin; when I had the free-spins I did notice the drums were animated and made a sound (I think?) when they hit, indicating something significant. But I didn't get them EVERY spin, so I don't know yet what my "Bang" is going to be.

Hmmm...well I checked my logs at one Rival where Ive played it and TWICE Ive had at least one drum on each free spin and got ZILCH!! I wonder if I should start kicking and screaming?? Certainly according to the paytable I should have 'gone out with a bang' (which hasnt happened for several weeks I can tell you...... )

 

[HeyMikey]

5 drums

I got 5 drums during free spins yesterday and guess what I got paid....$0.00. Talk about screwed!

 

[LOOKAWAY]

Where did you get those screenshots from - are they yours?
Also, why does it say wagered 0 at the top?

All very odd...

No, they are not my ss, they are from another forum.

As chuchu says they were hit during free spins.

 

[zap987]

If you hit at least one drum on each free spin you get some small win at the end, I think it was 7.5 times bet. There also seems to be more drums on reels during free spins so this happens quite a lot. For 3 scatters the multiplier is 3x, for 4 it is 5x and probably something higher for 5, never hit that

It's really sad how they can't just get the rules right when making the slot, not like it's hard.

 

[Nifty29]

If you hit at least one drum on each free spin you get some small win at the end, I think it was 7.5 times bet. There also seems to be more drums on reels during free spins so this happens quite a lot. For 3 scatters the multiplier is 3x, for 4 it is 5x and probably something higher for 5, never hit that

It's really sad how they can't just get the rules right when making the slot, not like it's hard.

Well I can tell you I got what mother hubbard had in her cupboard - and where did you see the 3x 4x multiplier thingie??

 

[De Beuker]

5 scatters give 5 free spins with 10x multiplier.
Hit them once, I went like AAAGH!!..but no win, only loads of useless scatters
And there are definately more scatters during free spins, but don't ask me why.
Really a big shame for Rival, Rock On could be a great slot, but not in this unfinished state.

 

[Rusty]

If you hit at least one drum on each free spin you get some small win at the end, I think it was 7.5 times bet. There also seems to be more drums on reels during free spins so this happens quite a lot. For 3 scatters the multiplier is 3x, for 4 it is 5x and probably something higher for 5, never hit that

It's really sad how they can't just get the rules right when making the slot, not like it's hard.

As KK points out it is much more than just sloppy rules.

How can you know if the game is functioning correctly if the rules are either unclear or incorrect?
For all you know it could be a gameplay fault resulting in you getting 75% payback rather than 90%
That is actually a very serious flaw and well spotted by KK.

 

[KasinoKing]

5 scatters give 5 free spins with 10x multiplier.

Are you saying that if you hit a scatter on every spin of the initial 5 free-spins, it gives you another 5 spins all at x10?

If so, that is the "Go out with a Bang" they mention on the PayTable.
(But not mentioned AT ALL in the rules).

By the way, just checked the rules again - STILL NOT UPDATED!! :sob:

Come on RIVAL - you are better than this, surely!
KK

 

[De Beuker]

Are you saying that if you hit a scatter on every spin of the initial 5 free-spins, it gives you another 5 spins all at x10?

If so, that is the "Go out with a Bang" they mention on the PayTable.
(But not mentioned AT ALL in the rules).

By the way, just checked the rules again - STILL NOT UPDATED!! :sob:

Come on RIVAL - you are better than this, surely!
KK

No, I mean if you hit 5 scatters in normal spins you get a 10x multiplier on your 5 free spins.
If you're lucky enough to hit a bunch of green guitars with one of those..

 

[Nifty29]

As far as I know its 5 free spins with 3x multiplier regardless of how many scatters you hit - but who the hell knows with this lame excuse for a slot???

KK is right. The paytable is completely different to the game rules and the free spins are NOT 'CANT LOSE FREE SPINS'!!!!.

I dont know how any operator with half a brain could allow this to happen.

 

[chuchu59]

Something similar happened before with an exclusive slot at the previously named "Absolute Slots' so this is not really something new with Rival. They can happen but what is worst of all is they dont seem to bloody care. Churning out new slots every now and then without rigorous testing and monitoring. They just care about early returns from new slots without caring a damn for their sustainability.

 

[zebedy]

maybe they dont test the new slots because they know it will be done for them
KK you should bill them for doing the work for them

as Ive said before it doesn't give you alot of confidence that any of there slots are giving you the right payback, especially if you hit 3/4 wilds in the bonus games, it would give rival a bit more credibility if a 3rd party checked the games,

 

[KasinoKing]

maybe they dont test the new slots because they know it will be done for them
KK you should bill them for doing the work for them

I did actually offer to do it for free - on more than one occasion.
One of the Rival casino reps even said they would let me know when a new game was about to come out, but of course, nothing happened.

I would actually do it if asked, but why should I have to? Anyone with half a brain can easily spot the glaring inconsistencies between the published game rules, the pay table, and what the slot actually does...
Surely there must be ONE person at Rival who meets this criteria???
... or maybe there's not!

KK

 

[gambblex]

Ooops ,I'm not alone. When Rock On was just launched you could expect that at least one of 5 NO LOSE SPINS will be really profitable.

But...during my several sessions last week I got a whole load of ZERO bonus rounds.Looks like it became a regular occurence. I had a very pitiful return after having thousands of spins. And I've never seen it before --each "no lose" spin NOW contains at least 2 drums. During my few last sessions each of five spins contained from 3 to 5 drums..I really started to think maybe there is a new feature when your EncoreBonus rounds are accumulated or somewhat. But from that moment all Ive seen was big round ZERO.


"No lose free spins"-it should be copyrighted probably.If honestly at Pamper casino in fun mode even free spins aren't free.

At the same time I'm a fond of Rival games and particularly Rock On

Rival definitely brought something new and something really cool.Well, not something.A LOT!!!

I'm pretty sure we'll not be disappointed in future.

GL to all!

 

[KasinoKing]

At the same time I'm a fond of Rival games and particularly Rock On

Rival definitely brought something new and something really cool. Well, not something. A LOT!!!

I'm more than a little confused by your post...

You seem to be very happy about playing Rock On - even though it is definitely not working properly and it's return % must be massively below the advertised figure...
Do you get pleasure from throwing money away?

KK

 

[gambblex]

Nope! Im maybe sick but not ill.

KK, you probably missed something. Im not gonna play RockOn for some time.

I just meant that I liked this game itself. And it promised to have a high winning potential.And I had a few really nice hits on it.

But now I see it definitely SUCKS.

 

[Nifty29]

Im actually a bit disappointed.

SlotoCash have a promo with RockOn this weekend, and given the paytables and rules are up the spout and nobody really seems to know what it should or shouldnt pay in the free spins, I am really very surprised.

I wonder if anyone from Rival who is responsible for game design/bug fixing actually reads this forum? Do they actually CARE, or are we just wasting our virtual breath??

There was a time when these things at Rival didnt worry me...I just thought 'Well if I win then great if I dont then tough'...but now after this Rockon nonsense and the progressive malarkey it really does grate my gears. I may well have been ripped off every time I played that slot, and there is no way to prove it.

I still think that if the casino states that the slot has NO LOSE FREE SPINS and you actually LOSE, then we ALL have a legitimate beef and should have our money refunded. After all, if you buy something from a store based on certain features, and it turns out they dont actually have them, do you just sit back and say 'Oh well thats my bad luck'??? NO - you march right back to the store and demand your money back. I reckon its time we all thought about this and emailed the casinos where we played Rockon and put it to them that they offered a feature that didnt exist.

Of course, they will just blow you off with some excuse or another and you wont get past first base, so on second thoughts I wouldnt bother.

You would NEVER EVER see anything like this at 3Dice or 32RED or Buzzluck. Rival have a lot to learn if they ever want to seriously challenge these outfits.

rant over

 

[slotheadlizard]

Rock Off

Wish I would had read the end of this thread before taking Sloto up on thier Rock on promotion. What a bust, bonus round is not no loose, you get a ton of drums and then nothing.

 

[KasinoKing]

Congratulations Rival, you are officially CRETINS!!!

I just checked to see if Rival had fixed Rock On yet - and they have!

The rules no longer say the free-spins are no lose...
But they still have NO IDEA of the meaning of the words PROOF READING!
Please, please, PLEASE tell me what is so difficult about it?

Sheeeeeesh!!! :sob:

 

[KasinoKing]

Oh... and they STILL haven't mended to slot!

"When winning combinations of symbols could be formed, the Wild Green Guitar (Expanding Wild) will expand to fill the entire reel, allowing all paylines to take advantage of the wild - this can allow for huge combinations of wins!"

 

[De Beuker]

I've been playing Rock On in fun mode this afternoon, just to find out about the free spins.
It seems that the Elvis bonus symbols are replaced by scatterdrums during free spins, at least I have not seen an Elvis when playing fs.
And I'm pretty sure now that if you hit at least 1 scatter in each of your 5 free spins, you get 7 times your original bet at the end.
I tried to make screenies to show you, but I failed, they don't show what they were supposed to show.
But 7 times bet...can't help but finding it a bit dissapointing for the promised 'bang'

 

[KasinoKing]

I've been playing Rock On in fun mode this afternoon, just to find out about the free spins.
It seems that the Elvis bonus symbols are replaced by scatterdrums during free spins, at least I have not seen an Elvis when playing fs.
And I'm pretty sure now that if you hit at least 1 scatter in each of your 5 free spins, you get 7 times your original bet at the end.
I tried to make screenies to show you, but I failed, they don't show what they were supposed to show.
But 7 times bet...can't help but finding it a bit dissapointing for the promised 'bang'

Yes, I think you are right (or nearly right?)
I finally got my "Bang" yesterday - and I'm pretty sure it paid 7.5 times my bet.
I didn't see anything which told me that - just my win went up that much.
But is it the same every time - anyone else had a Bang?