What happened?

As an aside, if anyone doubts RTP figures...don't. This was my yearly play on mostly novos at one casino...Death by 1000 cuts and pretty much bang on 95% RTP. A steady loss line. Result, 6k loss :eek2: Only once did I manage to string a winning month together. Every time I upped stakes after building a balance up, I lost, which is what I found pretty much everywhere. It was almost as if the slot knew my average stake and adjusted accordingly when I upped bet i.e a 200x bonus on 20p would pay 100x on 40p and so forth.

I see people slate BTG, but they happen to be the provider that have given me the majority of my cash outs and luckily I managed to break somewhere around even or even in a bit of profit at other casinos over the same period.

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It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. I’m sure over the past year or two there has been a significant increase in throughput from players simply because of the perceived riches which can be hit. The industry will likely lose a large %age of the casual player. These are the players who simply cannot afford to put thousands of times stake at a time but would be quite willing to risk 100-200x stake per month. Steady money but clearly not enough and not quick enough for casinos at the moment.

Once you’ve lost a lot of these players what genuinely is left? High rollers? Even they are likely to get bored and what happens when the bonus buys and the likes are inevitably banned from the UK?

You can fool a great many people short term with promises of riches, but most will eventually catch on to how terminally dull and/or insanely expensive the whole thing now is and turn their backs. The slots industry cannot survive on affiliates and addicts alone but that is how the business model is going.
 
I may be in a minority, being formerly happy to wibble away the hours on medium variance slots that have good potential for 100-300x on a fairly regular basis

However, I've noticed a decrease in play time and much faster ripping even on the old favourites. My stakes haven't changed... Always 60-80p.. so what has?

And don't get me started on the "medium potential , gobbles money like high variance" of the more modern games..
Inflation ;-)
 
The only games that I think were fair are the MG Viper ones, if you raise your bet at the right time you would win big. All these other providers that run through the mixed platform account management systems including Quickfire MG seems to always do the same patterns.

Its funny how every time you lower the bet after losing a lot at a bigger stake all of the sudden you have a really good win 75 - 300x or even funnier how if you have the last few cents in a casino that you left after smashing a session and busting out if you play them (with less lines than usual) there is a high chance that your balance will shoot back up to around $5. Enough to show account management that it payed back 500x (1c 1 line spin) but not enough to be able to win because as soon as you try use that $5 on any other game its like account management has put you into a bad part of a slots sequence (seed) and you will be back to 0 in around 20 - 50 spins, the tipsy tourist has done this to me before.

It almost feels like each bet size has its own pay table (bank) and RTP that it remembers and calculates and when your playing at the higher bets and losing it then compensates and feeds big wins to the lower bet sizes after you have lost enough. Viper Microgaming definitely did not behave this way because if it did I wouldn't have won my 177k mega win on Immortal Romance ($30 spin) at 32 red back in 2015 because I am pretty sure that was the first time I ever played that machine at such a high bet (before that max would have been around $12 but with majority of game play at $1.50 - $4.50). I wish we could still play MG Viper down here in Australia :(

A funny example of betting bigger and lowering the bet to hit big actually happened earlier this year at Joe Fortune. Had tilted out and raised by bet to $25 on fortune Pig with the last few hundred balance after having it up to almost a K (no max bet rule with bonuses and bonus was nowhere near completing wagering so I thought i'm either going to bust out or it will get me up a bit, one of the things I love most about that casino even though a lot of the games suck compared to the others, and I know this is an example of the opposite happening with raising bet and winning but I had done $25 bets before and even tried out a few at $125 when balance was around 5k on a previous session so it sort of is lowing in that sense ), once I got the feature it got my balance to around 2.6k and healthy but still with a lot of wagering. I had built up on previous sessions 16 free spins (normally starts with 5) in the bank on Mystic Ming Zhi (the Dalai Panda, not sure why they name it differently at that casino) at $30 so I put it on $50 auto spins with the balance going down pretty fast, once they completed I think there was around $1600 in balance so with confidence I even told my friend to watch as I did this because I had a feeling its what it needed. I raised bet to $150 (max bet) for 2 spins which both were empty and then I dropped it back to $30, first spin and I get the free spins which paid around 12k 400x.

This is also more than likely the reason why most casinos have really strict max bet limits when playing with bonuses to make you only try those bigger bets with real cash so that it can take back your withdrawal, I haven't read 32red's in recent years but I remember when I used to play there the only time there was a limit was on the welcome bonus $6.25. This reinforces my belief that slots in general across all the providers behave differently these days compared to MG Viper. It also explains why the losses mount up a lot faster these days when I go through dry runs of luck like I have been going through the last few months where its almost impossible to even get balance anywhere decent to think about a withdrawal when its playing ok and not going straight to $0 with 20% RTP. With the viper casinos yes I had back luck n would lose quite a bit at times but a month or two later I would hit a 5 - 10k withdrawal at multiple of them to get me back up. These days casinos feel like a bottomless money pit and the only casino's I am ahead at since the new law came in to Australia in 2017 would be Joe Fortune and Slotsmillion (around 3.5k in and around 10k out with relatively small bets compared to Joe Fortune, ($3 - $5 with Bonus) and managed to get a 500x single spin win on Magic target at $10 just before I busted out off a $200 deposit with no bonus). What i'm ahead at those two though has just been milked by the others because its like as soon as the balance is $1.5 - $3k if I don't cash out and try raise it to turn it into 5 figures it gets to 0 in no time so I have almost given up chasing bigger withdrawals at the other casino's since its impossible to win the same way it was 3 - 4 years ago, I am sure that not having the same choice of all the casino's due to location hence less competition plays a factor into this as well.

Its safe to say that unless I move to another country where I can play MG Viper again I will never have a bigger win than that Immortal Romance mega hit or even 10% of it lol.
 

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