What do these Buildings have in common ??

[RobWin]

Part II - Pattern of the Signs

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Drugs are big busness...

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[RobWin]

Part III - Pattern of the Times

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Final Part...Motive Explained...

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[Westland Bowl]

Sometimes people see something and they don't think it through. If they did, they'd come to a very scary realization.

The first video of the trilogy that Robwin posted showed an excerpt from BBC news on that 9-11 day. A female reporter and captions on the lower part of the screen mentions the collapse of WTC 7 but you can see that the WTC 7 building was STILL STANDING in the NYC skyline background shown live!!! Then we see the BBC anchor in Britain talking with the BBC reporter in New York. What happens next is the screen in which the BBC reporter was in starts to distort as if the transmission is being blocked. It is as if some people realized the collapse was being reported too early and therefore interfered with the transmission. Who in the hell has the technical know how and equipment powerful enough to block television/satellite transmissions and mind you, specific transmissions? I doubt men in Afghan caves do. WTC 7 fell five minutes later. It looks the hell scripted to me.

 

[1819]

Sometimes people see something and they don't think it through. If they did, they'd come to a very scary realization.

The first video of the trilogy that Robwin posted showed an excerpt from BBC news on that 9-11 day. A female reporter and captions on the lower part of the screen mentions the collapse of WTC 7 but you can see that the WTC 7 building was STILL STANDING in the NYC skyline background shown live!!! Then we see the BBC anchor in Britain talking with the BBC reporter in New York. What happens next is the screen in which the BBC reporter was in starts to distort as if the transmission is being blocked. It is as if some people realized the collapse was being reported too early and therefore interfered with the transmission. Who in the hell has the technical know how and equipment powerful enough to block television/satellite transmissions and mind you, specific transmissions? I doubt men in Afghan caves do. WTC 7 fell five minutes later. It looks the hell scripted to me.

it was a simple mistake. the capital building was also reported to have been blown to pieces. obviously a mistake. what the explosives failed to detonate in the capital? lol...... p.s. it is not that hard to fake a bbc broadcast if need be. do not forget that folks with a conspiracy agenda are not stupid. they have technology and resources too. just like you cannot believe everything the government says you sure as hell cant believe everything conspiracy theorists say.

 

[suzecat]

Gotta watch out for the tricky devils! Like when the conspiracy IS the conspiracy!

so, FWIW my opinion (you knew I'd have one ) the shit started when Saddam Hussein tried to off Bush Sr. That failed but pissed off Bush Jr. He was roaring for a way to even that score................

So then we hear about WMDs and even get someone so respected (Colin Powell) to chant against that evil. Well. that wasn't enough for the Brits, so Tony Blair was brought in to take care of that problem, then voila! WMDs exist! Blair said so!

So as things happen, Hussein hides from us even after blustering about how we'll never get him (Dubya must have been chomping at the bit by then) and miracle of miracles, we find the dude hiding in an underground bunker! How Hollywood!

So after a fair (?) trial, Hussein is found guilty of despicable things and sentenced to die.............which he does.

So now the con has gone too far and there's no way to skip out of Iraq without exposing the truth, so the "war against terror" has to continue. Saddam's revenge? He gets to watch the American symbols of democracy crumble under the weight of one man's greed for revenge.

Bin Ladin must be laughing in his cave........................

 

[LaurieJim]

i could have given two hoots in hell about saddam, what i wanted to see was bin laddin executed, drug thru the streets, throat slit, like nick berg(remember him) the screaming on t.v? i cant forget that sound to this day God forgive me for saying so, but its how i feel. i voted for bush twice and his dad too, im still a republican but those two didnt do crap for this nation( the people) or the republican party..........laurie

 

[lots0]

Sorry for not jumping in sooner, but I spend most of this part of the year killing tasty but defenseless animals.

To be honest, I have no idea of any connection between the two terrorist attacks.

I used to sit at my desk with the TV in my office turned to CNN as I worked, I remember watching 9/11 all unfold as it happened... I had a few questions at the time.

My main question was... How did CNN know to have a camera running and focused on the first Tower building... Before the first attack?

I remember the CNN announcer saying they had "Breaking News" and then they cut away to show the first tower BEFORE the first plane hit! I actually watched the first plane fly into the building "live".

I have always wondered about that.

 

[babs7262]

Ive been watching several conspiracy videos lately and I know one thing for sure. I truly believe that the pentagon was NOT hit by a plane but rather a missle. You can see the obvious signs like the size of the hole the debris (or lack of). Also, the airport hotel had the whole thing on video and to this day we havnt seen it and neither have the victims families

Building 7..That was absolutely imploded. It was planned and not only that, several fire fighters heard the explosions. Not only that one of the wtc buildings (the 2nd one that fell) fell like a pancake perfectly and they slowed down the video and you can visibly see tiny explosions before it fell. Its a brand new video out on this conspiracy and its worth the watch.

The other thing, The PA plane (93) there was no way in hell all of those ppl could call from their cellphones while the plane was in the air. Do you know how many times Ive tried to use my cell phone at take off or just before landing and they were even higher than that. I got too much to say so Ill leave it at that. Ohhh I am not being cold because we lost our cousin Brendon in the South Tower.

 

[RobWin]

Sorry for not jumping in sooner, but I spend most of this part of the year killing tasty but defenseless animals.

To be honest, I have no idea of any connection between the two terrorist attacks.

I used to sit at my desk with the TV in my office turned to CNN as I worked, I remember watching 9/11 all unfold as it happened... I had a few questions at the time.

My main question was... How did CNN know to have a camera running and focused on the first Tower building... Before the first attack?

I remember the CNN announcer saying they had "Breaking News" and then they cut away to show the first tower BEFORE the first plane hit! I actually watched the first plane fly into the building "live".

I have always wondered about that.

I never answered this because I was waiting on your opinion lots0, but the connection between the two are Cantor Fitzgerald L.P

I will comment and fill in the details later...

 

[babs7262]

Rob

Are you talking about the evidence that they needed to get rid of? They were doing some wrong things with ppl's money and some of it was (whats that word when you take from the company). They needed to get rid of it and thats why the building was imploded

Sorry, i was so caught up in my other theory I forgot about your original question.

 

[RobWin]

Rob

Are you talking about the evidence that they needed to get rid of? They were doing some wrong things with ppl's money and some of it was (whats that word when you take from the company). They needed to get rid of it and thats why the building was imploded

Sorry, i was so caught up in my other theory I forgot about your original question.

embezzlement...

Check out this channel Babs..Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)

The channel is called "68078 Exposing 9/11, Police State & Tyranny"

 

[babs7262]

Rob

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You probably saw this one, you need firefox for it.

There is another one that I cant find. I watched it two weeks ago, its about a group that walked across American to hand out free cd's about the facts they found on ALL rescue teams (police, fired, volunteers) and how ppl are dying from resp conditions and how alot of them lost medical benefits. They confronted ALL major politicians on camera, infact do you remember when that heckler taunted bill clinton at the speech he made and Clinton yelled back at him? That was the group he was yelling at and its on this tape (what you didnt see on the news) . Ill do my best to find it


Heres one that was just released

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[bryand]

Hi Babs.

Ive been watching several conspiracy videos lately and I know one thing for sure. I truly believe that the pentagon was NOT hit by a plane but rather a missle.

The History Channel ran an in-depth documentary on this and other conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 and (FWIW) I was convinced by the explanation by independent structural engineers that it was indeed a commercial passenger plane.

Building 7..That was absolutely imploded.

I thought it was common knowledge that Silverstein gave approval to take it down because the city was worried that it may fall eventually and injure rescue workers.

@ rob - BTW, of the many 'misstatements' in the 9/11 trilogy was that the Rockefeller family still owns the ground upon which WTC is built and leased to Larry Silverstein. ALL of the land was deeded to The Port Authority for New York and New Jersey by multiple deeds in the 1960's. (I was one of several contractors hired to conduct due diligence on the WTC property prior to Silverstein's re-negotiation of the leases in 2006.)

The other thing, The PA plane (93) there was no way in hell all of those ppl could call from their cellphones while the plane was in the air.

All but 2 or 3 of the calls were made from Airfones located on seat backs.

 

[Rusty]

it was a simple mistake. the capital building was also reported to have been blown to pieces. obviously a mistake. what the explosives failed to detonate in the capital? lol...... p.s. it is not that hard to fake a bbc broadcast if need be. do not forget that folks with a conspiracy agenda are not stupid. they have technology and resources too. just like you cannot believe everything the government says you sure as hell cant believe everything conspiracy theorists say.

Absolutely, as you say you have to see both sides of the argument, research what is stated as fact and make up your own mind.
I can tell you though that the BBC footage was not faked and what you have here is either Three strange coincidences or a conspiracy.

Coincidence One/ a building is reported collapsed but is actually clearly visible still standing in the report footage.

Coincidence Two/ The very same building (not one of the other badly damaged buildings) that is reported to have collapsed, collapses.

Coincidence Three/ As all this is happening the satellite link that was clearly showing the building still standing begins to break up and goes down.

Of course this is just one small part of a wider conspiracy theory and the more you look the more strange coincidences you will find.

I agree with you though that we will never know the complete truth but we should at least keep our eyes and minds open, less we blindly walk into a totalitarian state. (Israeli connection there )
Of course some would argue that Totalitarian state already exists.

 

[RobWin]

I thought it was common knowledge that Silverstein gave approval to take it down because the city was worried that it may fall eventually and injure rescue workers.

It is common knowledge in the conspiratorial world about Silverstein's statement there Bryan...but if you know anything at all about imploding buildings then you also know that a 47 story building Can Not and I repeat Can Not be totally wired to be taken down to fall within its own footprint within a matter of hours and also with fires going on in the building too...are you kidding me ??

This type of implosion would take at a minimum of three to four days at best to wire up by a super large crew of demolition experts in this field !! And the City of New York or Silverstein just happened to have one of these expert demolition companies on standby waiting to go in there and wire it up at a moments notice...right ??

@ rob - BTW, of the many 'misstatements' in the 9/11 trilogy was that the Rockefeller family still owns the ground upon which WTC is built and leased to Larry Silverstein. ALL of the land was deeded to The Port Authority for New York and New Jersey by multiple deeds in the 1960's. (I was one of several contractors hired to conduct due diligence on the WTC property prior to Silverstein's re-negotiation of the leases in 2006.)

I will post later about this...it gets into quite some detail...

 

[bryand]

Absolutely, as you say you have to see both sides of the argument, research what is stated as fact and make up your own mind.
I can tell you though that the BBC footage was not faked and what you have here is either Three strange coincidences or a conspiracy.

When I saw the BBC clip (and keeping an open mind as instructed) I immediately thought the woman simply said 'Building 7' rather than correctly saying 'Building 2'. She had been reporting on several buildings, including Building 7 which was burning but still standing. The man in the studio clearly says "a second building has fallen" which was true at that moment.

 

[1819]

Absolutely, as you say you have to see both sides of the argument, research what is stated as fact and make up your own mind.
I can tell you though that the BBC footage was not faked and what you have here is either Three strange coincidences or a conspiracy.

Coincidence One/ a building is reported collapsed but is actually clearly visible still standing in the report footage.

Coincidence Two/ The very same building (not one of the other badly damaged buildings) that is reported to have collapsed, collapses.

Coincidence Three/ As all this is happening the satellite link that was clearly showing the building still standing begins to break up and goes down.

Of course this is just one small part of a wider conspiracy theory and the more you look the more strange coincidences you will find.

I agree with you though that we will never know the complete truth but we should at least keep our eyes and minds open, less we blindly walk into a totalitarian state. (Israeli connection there )
Of course some would argue that Totalitarian state already exists.

the problem, and it is the main problem, is that we, as regular "joe citizen" have absolutely no way of doing any real research. you can not go by what the history channel says or some clown on youtube says...that goes for both sides of the arguement. we are at the mercy of the media. all of a sudden folks take as law everything they see on tv or read on the internet. you must consider the source especially when the source has a specific agenda. hell you can still find thousands of pages of text swearing that we faked the moon landing or bigfoot roams the woods.

 

[bryand]

the problem, and it is the main problem, is that we, as regular "joe citizen" have absolutely no way of doing any real research. you can not go by what the history channel says or some clown on youtube says...that goes for both sides of the arguement. we are at the mercy of the media. all of a sudden folks take as law everything they see on tv or read on the internet. you must consider the source especially when the source has a specific agenda. hell you can still find thousands of pages of text swearing that we faked the moon landing or bigfoot roams the woods.

You seem to be saying that one can't trust anything written or spoken. The only way a human can learn and grow is to read and listen. Are we not intelligent enough to weigh each piece of information based on our confidence in the source? I disagree with your theory that the average citizen does not have access to the truth. Otherwise we would all become paranoid sociopaths (no offense intended Rob ).

 

[RobWin]

Here you go Bryan...https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/what-do-these-buildings-have-in-common.27137/

 

[bryand]

Here you go Bryan...https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/what-do-these-buildings-have-in-common.27137/

links back to this thread

 

[RobWin]

links back to this thread

Exactly, I replied back to you there...thought you had missed it...

 

[Rusty]

When I saw the BBC clip (and keeping an open mind as instructed) I immediately thought the woman simply said 'Building 7' rather than correctly saying 'Building 2'. She had been reporting on several buildings, including Building 7 which was burning but still standing. The man in the studio clearly says "a second building has fallen" which was true at that moment.

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This Film was shown as a debunk to a BBC debunk of 9/11 conspiracy theories.
At 40.40 it talks about this incident but whole film is worth watching although it lasts over an Hour

 

[yodapark]

buildings etc...

HI THERE am just from uk watching your chat etc but very interesting ...i dont post much coz have parkinsons and so am slow writer but good thinker and liked your questuion...forgive if intruded and fingers thatrt dont spell well ...lol

 

[1819]

You seem to be saying that one can't trust anything written or spoken. The only way a human can learn and grow is to read and listen. Are we not intelligent enough to weigh each piece of information based on our confidence in the source? I disagree with your theory that the average citizen does not have access to the truth. Otherwise we would all become paranoid sociopaths (no offense intended Rob ).

you cant trust anything. that is the real world. we, society, are liars. it is our nature. we manipulate "truth" to suit our own needs. dont you scratch your head when watching the news? why even ask the questions? "did you take that kickback"? "no". "did you cheat on your wife"? "no". "were you drinking before the accident?" "no".... it's insane. courtrooms? what a joke..."he did it!" "no i didnt". reading, listening are very important learning tools. what are we reading though? yes the truth is out there but it is buried and twisted and spun around so many times that it is usually impossible to figure out. as ive stated before we are a society that demands answers even if there are none. terrible way to look at things? yes it is but it is the truth. people say that there is good in all people and that may be true but there is also alot of bad in people. look at the horrific world we live in. i'm not talking about main street, with folks bitchin about the price of gas or milk. i'm talking about people starving to death because they cant eat. slaughter in countries like haiti where generations of families are wiped out in a weekend. take a walk in nyc and see people eating out of dumpsters while folks in suites moan about the freedom tower not going up on time. real world. not paranoia, realism. dog eat dog. get mine, screw everyone else. basic human instinct. protect me and mine at all costs. i just cant understand how people dont see that. the world we live in is a terrible place for most. intelligent you ask? how can such an intelligent race be so cruel to one another and pretend they are not?

 

[RobWin]

HI THERE am just from uk watching your chat etc but very interesting ...i dont post much coz have parkinsons and so am slow writer but good thinker and liked your questuion...forgive if intruded and fingers thatrt dont spell well ...lol

Welcome to the discussion yodapark, glad to have you here...Rusty also lives over there close to you, take part when you feel like jumping in...