Were they right to do so?

My timing is bwaha tonight, take a seat watch the chetahhhh do his thingy, really... that was the bow off, see ya in the attic :)

Lojo, there were a few times in my younger days that I tried LSD. If I had known you then, I think I could've understood you.
 
Lojo, there were a few times in my younger days that I tried LSD. If I had known you then, I think I could've understood you.

Nice thought, thank you. But really, LSD is for fools (listen to stan graph 194* lecture) you do not need to understand me. You can stretch your mind in the vaults of erowid, mckennaland if yan't to, but all the same ifn ya don't.

It ain't got nuttin to do with the way the dice lay. I'm a freak and proud of it and will never be shamed for my beautiful mind.

Why, what you got going on?
 
Gaahl,

In case you cannot retrieve your account number for any technical reason, you can still send a PM to VegasVipLounge, the casino rep at this forum with your e-mail address, name and address and ask him to look into your case. I think that it should be quite easy to get back your deposit together with an explanation from the casino.
 
Nice thought, thank you. But really, LSD is for fools (listen to stan graph 194* lecture) you do not need to understand me. You can stretch your mind in the vaults of erowid, mckennaland if yan't to, but all the same ifn ya don't.

It ain't got nuttin to do with the way the dice lay. I'm a freak and proud of it and will never be shamed for my beautiful mind.

Why, what you got going on?

You seem to have been offended by my joke? :p

I know LSD is for fools... thanks for the wisdom! My teen years were overflowing with foolish things.
 
:lolup:Thats good stuff Tim..:lolup:...no offense Lojo

Yippers and none taken :D

Wasn't it you way back when who gave me the chortle when I said, i might be drunk tonight but I don't think it will affect my reputation any more than my game' or sumsuch shit?` Bwahahahahaha
 
Yippers and none taken :D

Wasn't it you way back when who gave me the chortle when I said, i might be drunk tonight but I don't think it will affect my reputation any more than my game' or sumsuch shit?` Bwahahahahaha

Could of been, I've slept since then and I'm getting old and about halfway senile...so I don't really remember....:oops:
 
Might have been reo... 'you go gambl00r':thumbsup: if you don't own one you have to own the other I have a mind like a steel trap:) it's just a bit squeaky sometimes.:notworthy
 
I was just flicking through the wizards of odds & saw a funny thread that holds true in my eyes.

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You seem to have been offended by my joke? :p

I know LSD is for fools... thanks for the wisdom! My teen years were overflowing with foolish things.

No offense, just there right now in other ways. Wish me well, eh? I should know better, but I mixed alcohol tonight, ye ha booo hoo.

Back to the topic at hand :)
 
No offense, just there right now in other ways. Wish me well, eh? I should know better, but I mixed alcohol tonight, ye ha booo hoo.

Back to the topic at hand :)

It's 9:30am here... and you just posted this. If you're in California for example, it 12:30pm. Are you still drinking from last night you mean?:eek:
 
It's 9:30am here... and you just posted this. If you're in California for example, it 12:30pm. Are you still drinking from last night you mean?:eek:
It be 757 mountain time and no sleep in sight 2 half gallons to go as far as booze, and that's mine, just to keep the mind dark and the nerves sharp. I'm not proud of it, nor ashamed, I just do it. Eight oh 3 now, ready for a new day :D
 
It be 757 mountain time and no sleep in sight 2 half gallons to go as far as booze, and that's mine, just to keep the mind dark and the nerves sharp. I'm not proud of it, nor ashamed, I just do it. Eight oh 3 now, ready for a new day :D

You go girl! :thumbsup: err... I mean boy!
 
This is part of MiniVegas. They went on a locking spree around the time of your issue. They claimed that even players NOT using bonuses were engaging in "illegitimate play", and tried to confiscate winnings.
Many players engaging in said "illegitimate play" were registering their accounts in Pounds, even though they did not live in the UK. Although they took no bonus, this actually benefited their "illegitimate play", as it meant no WR restrictions, or account audit (or so they thought).
This is the only credible reason why some MG casinos confiscate from players who play in "the wrong currency" yet take no bonus.
They were briefly rogued for failing to deal with this properly, and in the end had to pay players who had not broken the terms.

It does not matter if it was a year and a half ago, if they were members of eCogra at the time, they can be the subject of a complaint, and this would be pretty damning as their rep assured the forum that all the outstanding issues had been taken care of surrounding this event, which took place during the latter half of 2006.
The terms in this case dictate a return of deposit, and this was not done.

Players should be aware that the old advice to "not take a bonus and all will be fine" is no longer valid, you have to read the terms and conditions just as vigilantly as the "bonus whore", or risk being an easy target for a screwing over, as casinos are stemming their losses from the "clever" players, and the loss of the US market, by instigating a zero tolerance approach to payment if even a minor infringement is detected. In the past, casinos would have these measures, but prided themselves in only using them in exceptional circumstances, now they are used 100% if they are offered a means not to pay. They also gain, because they don't refund the deposits of losers, and losers do not even know they may be due a refund. Any player who falls foul of this kind of term is simply giving the casino their money. If they win, they only get their deposit back, if they lose, they lose, never knowing they never had a chance to win from that deposit.

Modifying the software to prevent the wrong currency being used is easy, and it is funny that professional programers, who can produce these splendid casino applications, are at a loss when it comes to programming in player safety measures to trap invalid registration information.
 
last bottle of gin is gone doing vodka now 1.5 ltrer I guesss thet makes, what 4litre or one half galllon off the pure, hMMM not so good, there is no variance.
 
Maybe it's time to go to sleep!:eek:

t5ny waves his magical wanda away, makes the djinni blink, and lojo falls into a slimber like sleep;uncumbersummed by sugar plums or faerieclowns with scimatars... sleep lojo, sleep - it's good for e'vrywin on this great greygreengreasylimpoporiver of nubbly baleen and just so stories of dirty dog dingos yellow dog dingos...

Who was it, Enzo? That said lojo is 'Pleasantly Disturbed'? I'd have to agree through these sleepbeared eyes :)

Good morrrrrrning Meisterland :D

Hey ya'll... anyone think I shouild moderate me drinkin? How fun is that? Yummmmmmo!
 
They're accredited here so presumably have a rep. Message him/her and if they have any sense they will give you back your money (and winnings).

The issue is not whether they are allowed to do this, the terms and conditions of internet casinos allow them to do virtually anything, but whether they should do it. Other posters are correct in saying that by not taking a bonus you should be able to play freely without worrying that you haven't read every clause in the terms. Any casino that excercises their 'right' to screw someone over for the simple reason that they are allowed to is utterly rogue.
 
OK, I sent them an email right after lojo told me to :p They have not replied that yet tho.


BUT

I looked on my old PC and I managed to dig out the reply they made to me back then, and it do not give me high hopes to put it that way...

Dear xxxx,

Thank you for your reply.

We are writing in regards to the previous e-mail you sent us and are
extremely sorry to inform you that we cannot refund your purchase
because it was played in the casino.

We would like again to remind you that we always advise our clients to
read the Terms and Conditions prior to registration, in fact , the
system does not let you sign up untill you tick a box saying "I have
read and agree with the Terms and Conditions". By ticking that box you
indicated us that you agreed with our rules and were aware of the fact
that it is illegal to open an account in a currency that difeers from
the one in your country.

We are sorry for the inconvenience this may cause.

Should you need any further help, please feel free to contact us.

Kind Regards

Isabelle

Grand Hotel Casino


Hmm:confused:
 
We would like again to remind you that we always advise our clients to read the Terms and Conditions prior to registration, in fact, the system does not let you sign up until you tick a box saying "I have read and agree with the Terms and Conditions". By ticking that box you indicated us that you agreed with our rules and were aware of the fact that it is illegal to open an account in a currency that differs from the one in your country.
The bolded text is the part I have a problem with. I cannot stress just how simple it would be to implement the country-currency restriction programmatically. Even if MG wanted to offer it as an option to each individual casino (instead of a blanket restriction across all casinos), it would still only take a few extra lines of code. I consider myself lazy at times, but not implementing this in the registration form, that is VERY LAZY!
 
what currencies are offered there?

USD, EUR, GBP, and possibly canadian bucks and south african rands, the off chance of swedish kroner.

the email states that if you don't use that currency in your country, you are afoul of the terms. so only america, the EU, and britain are allowed to play, and perhaps a scant few other countries lucky enough to have their currency available. that cuts almost four entire continents (s. america, africa, asia, australia/oceania) from being allowed to play, plus the non-EU places in europe, as well as mexico and central america. racists!

but if you're a super-duper-nit, argue that banks in your nation transact using all types of currency, so there are in effect people "using" that currency in your nation.

any way you slice it, it's poop! if anything, playing in pounds is likely to give you the least amount of actual chips for your money, and thus a greater chance of losing it back to the casino. if, instead of buying 100 pounds, you bought in under ZARs, you would have maybe 1000 or more to play with, and more ability to vary your bet size etc. with pounds, you really limit yourself, and the casino punishing you for using a currency that actually helps them win is shitty for them to do.

the only way it could hurt them is if the numerical max bet is absolute, and you are betting the max, say 500, in pounds compared to 500 of another currency. but still, you are putting your own money at risk each time you play, no matter what denomination/currency the chips are classed under. they should be slapped. not only should it not matter, if they want it that way, it's easy to fix/stop people from doing, as has been said, yet they choose not to.

fvck those thieving bastards! :thumbsup:
 

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