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I imagine if someone used similar colourful language against Kamala, there'd be complaints aplenty.

I can give it a try if people are so relaxed now about f-bombs, swap scumbag to something more used against women etc..🧐

It shows a lack of control and being too emotional for a forum discussion, the english language is full of ways of making roughly the same point but with less foaming and expletives.
 
As it so happens, just heard it through the grapevine that there appear to be several A.I-generated clips surfacing on Social Media, basically deep-faking Kamala Harris on some of her recognized attendances at rallies and conventions etc

Main bone of contention seems to be Elon Musk's approval of these via laughing emojis, whilst in direct contravention to Twitter/ X's own guidelines, namely, to leave a Community note indicating that the video is indeed a tech perversion! Alas, no such note was forthcoming.....

Definitely raises the question of A.I creating a new form of Misinformation, and its featuring heavily in political influence. That's before we even delve in to what's considered satirical, and what's purposely misleading in view to tarnishing candidates unfairly.

Though likely to be debunked within seconds of seeing many of today's deep fakes, the tech is there and effectively open source, meaning that the quality will vary. Yet you can be sure it's going to become indistinguishable from the real thing in years to come, marking quite a dangerous time going forward :eek2:
 
In fairness to DreamRJ, Trump:

1) Is a convicted felon
2) Has said multiple times he wants to be a dictator (for a day)
3) Was found liable by a jury of having committed sexual abuse

So calling him a 'dictator in the making criminal scumbag' is, more than anything, just facts.
Think of the comedy Porridge when Lennie (the black bloke with the scots accent) is talking to Fletcher who is trying to commiserate with him after he was put on a charge for fighting:

Lennie: "...he called me a black bastard!"

Fletcher "Well, to be fair you are black and your mother never married your father."

So the moral of this tale is that you may be factually correct but there are more diplomatic ways of stating such. :)

P.S. I have no time for either him nor Karamba Harris
 
Hi all - please engage with more than two braincells before responding to some of the posts here. For one - Presidents don't make laws, that is the legislative branch, and there are State laws, county and city laws. So no need to go ape shit over some of this nonsense.

Seriously, it's just posturing and more blah blah blah. It's politics. And if you are getting bent out of shape over it, you're being played. :thumbsup:
 
And yeah, the Republicans really effed up. They thought that the convicted felon and rapist ex-president was a good match against grandpa Joe. LOL . Well what now? :p

Now we have two white male misogynists clamoring for the female vote - do the math and you know what's going to happen in November. LOL
 
I've done the math and would lump on at the odds on offer, but I don't think enough people believe either court decision were fair judgements by an unbiased judge, or jury, to make the equation so cut and dried.

No Bet.
 
Can I say - my words was not cruel or over the line in my opinion this time. I was talking the truth and I think the vast majority of people agree with the words I used, people use those exact words in conversations all the time about the criminal.

I will reply to what 1 person said though, yeah there is state law and federal law, trump is talking about federal law. That does not mean he will not go after state laws afterwards does it? Obviously changing state laws would be much harder if the republican party does not win each state, so it would mean about half of states would be run by republicans and half democrats. So it would then be a split America.

But Trump will do everything he can to be a dictator he has already promised to "fix voting" that should be the biggest alarm bells ever! but yet still his base still flock to his camp. But latest I heard was some of his backers are now switching to Harris camp!
 
It's the strangest thing that Republicans never snapped up Candace Owens, as at one point she was the Right's darling.

Given her alignment with the party's vision and open endorsement of all things Trump, it would surely figure that she'd be a more intelligible option going forward that sheds the old man rhetoric.

With her being effectively a free agent, the move into frontline politics surely beckoned, even declaring her desire to possibly run in 2024 :eek:

I'd imagine those aspirations were quickly dashed via her continuously unrepentant anti-Semitic takes, and that was that. Yet shady views aside, I suspect she'd have been a fairly viable vote-winner and most certainly held her own in verbal jousts. Guess it was just not meant to be :D
 
It's the strangest thing that Republicans never snapped up Candace Owens, as at one point she was the Right's darling.

Given her alignment with the party's vision and open endorsement of all things Trump, it would surely figure that she'd be a more intelligible option going forward that sheds the old man rhetoric.

With her being effectively a free agent, the move into frontline politics surely beckoned, even declaring her desire to possibly run in 2024 :eek:

I'd imagine those aspirations were quickly dashed via her continuously unrepentant anti-Semitic takes, and that was that. Yet shady views aside, I suspect she'd have been a fairly viable vote-winner and most certainly held her own in verbal jousts. Guess it was just not meant to be :D

She has on a couple occasions hinted to run for (state) Senate and even president but afaik it never happened.

Not sure if it's because the R's didn't want to get her on board or because being an activist simply pays better. She's a speaker at every conservative gathering and has her own podcast (?) as well as appearing on several others. I guess it's a very lucrative job.
 
She has on a couple occasions hinted to run for (state) Senate and even president but afaik it never happened.

Not sure if it's because the R's didn't want to get her on board or because being an activist simply pays better. She's a speaker at every conservative gathering and has her own podcast (?) as well as appearing on several others. I guess it's a very lucrative job.

Just to add, well Trump has been in total meltdown being more and more extreme since Harris popularity surged. I read that Trump is now considering replacing Vance as VP candidate, he only has 9 days now before Ohio so time is ticking.

Anyone he picks will just be as vile as vance was.
 
Just to add, well Trump has been in total meltdown being more and more extreme since Harris popularity surged. I read that Trump is now considering replacing Vance as VP candidate, he only has 9 days now before Ohio so time is ticking.

Anyone he picks will just be as vile as vance was.

Yep, from what I've read he considered replacing Vance with someone from a swing state because Ohio is basically a state the R's will win so Vance is of little use.

Which leads me to believe that Harris is also carefully selecting her VP... Pennsylvania and Arizona could be battleground states and both Shapiro and Kelly are 2 of the rumored top candidates, but there's also Michigan but then it'd be an all female ticket with Whitmer and it's doubtful that they'll take that chance right now.
 
Yep, from what I've read he considered replacing Vance with someone from a swing state because Ohio is basically a state the R's will win so Vance is of little use.

Which leads me to believe that Harris is also carefully selecting her VP... Pennsylvania and Arizona could be battleground states and both Shapiro and Kelly are 2 of the rumored top candidates, but there's also Michigan but then it'd be an all female ticket with Whitmer and it's doubtful that they'll take that chance right now.

Yeah personally I think Harris needs to pick a male VP. an all female ticket might not help Harris out when it comes to votes.

I mean it would be nice to have all female but I think some voters would prefer a male as VP
 
Could we see republican senetors and representatives switching parties? That is something we probably need to keep a close eye on in the next few months of campaigning too.

If that happens then that shows us a lot of what the outcome will be come November.

EDIT: Let me go into some detail with some thoughts I have been having as well about the statement the criminal made about "Complete Immunity for law enforcement".

So Let us do an example. Corruption in the police is not has bad as it was decades ago, but if he was to make a law that means all law enforcement are immune to any prosecution would bring corruption back up to extreme levels.

Example: Cops covering up, cops abusing victims, killing people without any consequences. So all those racist coppers and all those coppers who might have lewd sexual desires etc. All could abuse the power and get away with it. The media would be reporting none stop about all these crimes that coppers are making, but nothing will or would be done about them and it would get so bad, the whole country would no longer trust the police. IT would lead to mass protests, even civil war. But Trump has also said that he would allow the police to use force against protesters meaning he would probably bring back shoot to kill orders for protesters I am guessing.

I mean lets face it coppers having it in their heads that they can never be prosecuted gives them all a greenlight. So all of their darksides, not all cops will have dark sides,, but the bad apples do will be laughing and getting away with literal murder or rapes.

I know it will be federal law but Trump will probably find a way to change state laws as well. Probably as he stated getting rid of the constitution. (No idea how he would even do that). Either way would cause a civil war.

So yeah just some serious things Americans really need to think about before they vote. Do they really want this to happen? Only way to stop it is to VOTE BLUE!

The chance of a Civil war in America has never been higher, If Trump loses, all his far right extremist followers will probably cause mayhem and chaos all over the country causing unrest, looting, riots etc. (Trump will not go quietly). We have history to prove that is the case, look what happened at the last election when he got all his extremist followers to storm congress......

If Trump wins the Civil war would be caused from the other sides when he is eroding the constitution and bringing in crazy laws with the 2025 agenda.

In my opinion Civil war is probably at a 70% chance, if we compared it to the doomsday clock that would be pretty close. But I also think the doomsday clock will get moved closer to midnight if Trump wins too. He did threaten world war 3 as well if he did not win. The guy is a lunatic.

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As it so happens, just heard it through the grapevine that there appear to be several A.I-generated clips surfacing on Social Media, basically deep-faking Kamala Harris on some of her recognized attendances at rallies and conventions etc

Main bone of contention seems to be Elon Musk's approval of these via laughing emojis, whilst in direct contravention to Twitter/ X's own guidelines, namely, to leave a Community note indicating that the video is indeed a tech perversion! Alas, no such note was forthcoming.....

Definitely raises the question of A.I creating a new form of Misinformation, and its featuring heavily in political influence. That's before we even delve in to what's considered satirical, and what's purposely misleading in view to tarnishing candidates unfairly.

Though likely to be debunked within seconds of seeing many of today's deep fakes, the tech is there and effectively open source, meaning that the quality will vary. Yet you can be sure it's going to become indistinguishable from the real thing in years to come, marking quite a dangerous time going forward :eek2:
I think you would have to be quite dumb not to see most if not all of them as being fake.

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I think you would have to be quite dumb not to see most if not all of them as being fake.

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I know, and I agree. Only problem being as they veer away from comedic bastardizations and start emulating more serious events, in years to come 😳

It's his platform to oversee as he sees fit. I guess the question is whether other media start declaring what is permissible and what isn't, or what people are allowed to think, as decreed by the government years prior, or whether any of it can actually be stopped 👌
 
I know, and I agree. Only problem being as they veer away from comedic bastardizations and start emulating more serious events, in years to come 😳

It's his platform to oversee as he sees fit. I guess the question is whether other media start declaring what is permissible and what isn't, or what people are allowed to think, as decreed by the government years prior, or whether any of it can actually be stopped 👌
Elon confuses me. This of course is very real

 
Trump was given multiple opportunities to clarify his 'you'll never have to vote again' comments here, from a soft interviewer in the form of Fox News, and still manages to not say there'll be any more elections.

When this man tells you he wants to be a dictator, listen to him.

Many things are unthinkable, right up until the point they actually happen.

 
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Jews would need their heads examined??? :lolup:

Pretty rich coming from the most anti-Christian candidate ever on record. How many marriages? How many affairs? Brags about sexually abusing women - thinking it's funny? WTF??

If you're a Christian (or any person of faith), you need to check in to the nearest psych ward if you think this guy has ANY morals whatsoever.

This man is simply vile.
 
Trump was given multiple opportunities to clarify his 'you'll never have to vote again' comments here, from a soft interviewer in the form of Fox News, and still manages to not say there'll be any more elections.

When this man tells you he wants to be a dictator, listen to him.

Many things are unthinkable, right up until the point they actually happen.


My god, don't the leftists take the bait. You have to get that through congress first, then amend the constitution, then there's the Supreme Court to consider. Plus any state in the USA can secede from the union if it chooses to.

The chatterati need to avail themselves of the facts as to how the US system works. The legislative, executive and judicial segments are kept apart for this very reason. Same as the UK but to a greater extent. Remember BJ and his attempt to prorogue Parliament when the house marxists were trying to obstruct Brexit?
 
Or just up in the sky, to destroy the weather.

Trump has been one step ahead of the whole deepfake thing that is getting more widespread these days.
He has already said and done almost every stupid&crazy thing there is, so whatever deepfake is created he has probably already done or said that thing.
Hes out there playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

If he ever got into horse racing i bet he would excel at that aswell, because as we all know hes a:

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No wonder there is so much division in American politics when there are bias stations wheeling out guests who spout such angry woke nonsense.


And we have the Olympics allowing a rapist who abused a 12 yo 3 times ( only served 16 months) to compete in the volleyball and a male to compete and dominate in the boxing.
They will be adding peado colours to the rainbow flag soon.
 
Well, the right did it first with Everything We Don’t Like Is Woke.

Turns out, the right don’t like being called weird. Weird, that.
Talk about tit for tat and childish, poopy head :p
 
Well, they were tested and cleared by the IOC as females and have yet to compete so it's a foregone conclusion they dominate ;)

Khelif was at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and eliminated in the QF. Yu-ting went out in the last 16.
Are you pleased that a boxer who was a male is competing against women?
 
One of the consistently telling things about Trump, is how the people who've been closest to him, including his own family, often have truly terrible experiences with him to talk about.

This, from his nephew Fred Trump III, is particularly horrible.

 
Sky News is so biased........

Kamala Harris is holding a rally in Atlanta right now and Sky News/BBC refuse to show it.

When the criminal Trump holds rallies Sky News and BBC always show them, every single one of his they show. But refuse to show Harris's Disgraceful.
 
There's at least five streams on YT and elsewhere too no doubt, there'd be no issue catching it anywhere.

Only caught the tail-end of it, though a couple of broadcasts were completely out of sync, which was off-putting, and one was whisper-quiet :what:

Will rewatch it in its entirety once someone's compiled a watchable version of it sometime today/ tomorrow.

The atmosphere seemed quite buoyant and engaging though from what I briefly surmised 👌
 
Yeah that is how I watched it via YouTube, and yes all of the streams was super bad quality. I am not sure if that was why Sky News refused to show it. But I suspect they have other news on their agenda because of what happened in Southport. But I bet any money they would have shown Trumps rally though :p

Some side news, Fred Trump has now backed Kamala Harris - Trump is his uncle reason is because he told Fred that his disabled son "should just die" Disgraceful.
 
I honestly thought this was some sort of deepfake AI generated content, but it turns out Fox News really did broadcast this.

I think it's safe to say that the right wing in the States is deeply worried about the traction that Harris is gaining. Trump suddenly looks very old, deeply hate-filled (I mean, he always has been, but Biden was too old and doddery to highlight it properly), and entirely the wrong answer to the questions America is asking.

 
It's important to keep perspective, based off Harris' coronation, 'all-in' portrayals of a solitary rally and a struggle session over Zoom :laugh:

She's not an unknown quantity, everyone pretty much knows her by now, and her flip-flopping to appeal to moderates noticeable.

Still, once we're past the DNC and the dust has settled we'll see the temperature turn up, and so we'll be witness to interviews aplenty and tough grillings galore.

Judging by the crowds in Georgia though, the initial enthusiasm appears to be there in spades, but let's not confuse this as the second coming of Obama just yet!

I await the uploads of her rally still, as no one's seen fit to put out a version of her where the audio isn't lagging a second behind. Would really like to see the speech unabated!

Not calling it sabotage, but.....
 
Judging by the crowds in Georgia though, the initial enthusiasm appears to be there in spades, but let's not confuse this as the second coming of Obama just yet!

Harris is not Obama far from it, I think the next few weeks running upto the DMC will be key to watch out for, the DMC will give another huge boost once she has been nominated properly and when she has picked her running mate.

I am getting excited for Harris now though. At the end of the day she is the only person now we have to stop the far right extremist vile criminal dictator.
 
Sky News is so biased........

Kamala Harris is holding a rally in Atlanta right now and Sky News/BBC refuse to show it.

When the criminal Trump holds rallies Sky News and BBC always show them, every single one of his they show. But refuse to show Harris's Disgraceful.
lol ever hear of ratings? Do you know the ratings Trump brings vs Kamala when it comes to a rally?

It's not bias. It's business.
 
Yeah personally I think Harris needs to pick a male VP. an all female ticket might not help Harris out when it comes to votes.

I mean it would be nice to have all female but I think some voters would prefer a male as VP
How about who is best for the job? I know, incredible idea.
 


The disgusting criminal dictator is showing is true colours now. "COMPLETE IMMUNITY" Seriously, so that means cops will be able to kill when ever they want without any reprocussions........

USA Wake up and DO NOT vote for that fucking dictator in the making crimnal scumbag!

This is where Trump bites himself in the ass lol.

Most people know what he means as he has explained it in the past but when he goes off on these controversial topics, he makes himself sound like a tool. Therefore making a wonderful tool for the democrats to recruit more sheep :)

This law already exists. It's called doctrine of qualified immunity and has existed since the late 1800's but sometimes some State's dont enforce it.. actually most democratic state's dont.

it just means he wont allow police officers to be sued while on duty..... unless there is a clear violation of rights.



Example. If you arrest a black man stealing. They can't sue you and claim racism. If a police officer is attacked by a group of people and he fights back, he cant be sued for medical bills.

There is really no reason for him to say total immunity. It's a dumb, unhinged comment that doesnt help him. He should have said, enforce the already existing law.

Even if he did mean (which he didnt) 'total 100% immunity for all crimes', that would never pass. Both sides wouldnt support police just running around murdering people and then going home to a cold brewski. Even Trump the 'murderous' 'rapist' 'felon' wouldnt support that. I think we can all agree on that.
 
Trump just finished at the National Association of Black Journalists in some Q&A session I think few were even aware of!

Talk about going into the lion's den, saw a bit of it, whereby you could sense the unease and general awkwardness, with some tetchiness on display. He definitely did not like one of the three hosts, seemed cordial with another and looked like he found mutual respect with the eldest of the three, from the five minutes I caught.

Still, before long it had turned into a laugh riot, and with that his job was done. Amazing scenes!
 
It's important to keep perspective, based off Harris' coronation, 'all-in' portrayals of a solitary rally and a struggle session over Zoom :laugh:

She's not an unknown quantity, everyone pretty much knows her by now, and her flip-flopping to appeal to moderates noticeable.

Still, once we're past the DNC and the dust has settled we'll see the temperature turn up, and so we'll be witness to interviews aplenty and tough grillings galore.

Judging by the crowds in Georgia though, the initial enthusiasm appears to be there in spades, but let's not confuse this as the second coming of Obama just yet!

I await the uploads of her rally still, as no one's seen fit to put out a version of her where the audio isn't lagging a second behind. Would really like to see the speech unabated!

Not calling it sabotage, but.....
I personally believe most democratic voters dont even know who or what they are voting for. They watch the mainstream, get told what to do and just do it. Kamala cant even form a sentence. She talks in weird circles.

People still think Obama was the best president ever. Because he is a good speaker and charasmatic. You tell them that he droned thousands of woman and children, they dont care or dont even know about it. The media says hes the greatest, so they must obey. Nevermind all the race baiting and race wars he started. The guy ordered a drone hit at a funeral and killed 50 innocent woman, children, and old people. (and thats only 10% of his drone hits)

Some people still love George W Bush even though he is clearly a war criminal that got thousands of US citizens and soldiers killed.

If its in a far away land, it isnt reality to these people.

Media: Orange man bad! Switch turns on in their heads and they suddenly start humming and repeating it "oranngee mannn badd"
 
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