US political crisis

[Kroffe]

I remember reading that Trump didnt have a plan for distribution to the general public.

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

Truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Time for a break.

 

[geordiecolin]

When did Biden take office? January 20

December 14th, 2020





Mar 7, 2021

How can anyone believe their narrative when we have Psaki stating that Biden takes questions from the media multiple times per day since he took office and the media say nothing about that lie? And the public just swallow this shit.

 

[Kroffe]

 

[slotplayer]

How can anyone believe their narrative when we have Psaki stating that Biden takes questions from the media multiple times per day since he took office and the media say nothing about that lie? And the public just swallow this shit.

Well I guess the media are starting to complain he hasn't had a solo press conference since taking office.

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

 

[geordiecolin]

Well I guess the media are starting to complain he hasn't had a solo press conference since taking office.

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

"And, naturally, there are those like Fox News contributor Kayleigh McEnany who are

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

like the White House is afraid to let Biden speak."
I can not see how her comments are not far off the truth? And Kayleigh faced an onslaught from the bias media that attended every single day rather than the softball and very respectful audience that Psaki faces. If it was a Republican press sec stating that a Rep President was facing the press daily when he had not the press assembled would have erupted and it would be front page news.

Funnily enough it was not that easy to find this...

 

[slotplayer]

"And, naturally, there are those like Fox News contributor Kayleigh McEnany who are

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

like the White House is afraid to let Biden speak."
I can not see how her comments are not far off the truth? And Kayleigh faced an onslaught from the bias media that attended every single day rather than the softball and very respectful audience that Psaki faces. If it was a Republican press sec stating that a Rep President was facing the press daily when he had not the press assembled would have erupted and it would be front page news.

Funnily enough it was not that easy to find this...

Yeah, I mentioned before about Biden being handled. Not surprising.

Complete whitewashing on YT. I had a video of a guy I never saw before and it has been removed from my history. I can't remember his name exactly so I can't search for it.

 

[geordiecolin]

Yeah, I mentioned before about Biden being handled. Not surprising.

Complete whitewashing on YT. I had a video of a guy I never saw before and it has been removed from my history. I can't remember his name exactly so I can't search for it.

I would answer that but I am totally unprepared

 

[geordiecolin]

So much for the insurrection charges made against those who "stormed the house" while being let in by security.
The Deputy of the FBI Jill Sandborn was asked by Senator Ron Johnson how many firearms where found or arrests made due to having a firearm? "No firearms where recovered that day and no arrests made after that day on those charges.No fires where shot that day other than the one that killed that lady" And the Deputy of the FBI could not remember the name of Ashley Babbitt.
Where was the insurrection? A police officer fired a shot and killed an unarmed person when there was no indication that there was anyone baring firearms.
We live in a shit World unless you close your mind to it until you die.

 

[geordiecolin]

Had anyone else been following the worrying developments between the USA and Russia? After Biden called Putin a "killer" with no soul-
Russia have recalled their Ambassador from America which is a powerful statement.
US/NATO increased military presence in the Black Sea.
US/NATO flying Bombers flying daily near to Russia.
US/NATO maneuvers in the Baltic's.
Thousands of Tanks/Soldiers are massing on both sides in East Ukraine. Rumor British SAS and US special forces are on the ground.
All military leave cancelled in Ukraine and Russia.
Is this being talked about in the American media?

 

[geordiecolin]

From what I can see America is losing respect right now.
Does anyone think that this administration are doing well? If so then why do you think so.
Any Americans wish to give their thoughts?

 

[mack341]

Biden seems preoccupied with raising the heat with russia, very neocon mindset, playing geopolitical chess games. The papers made a big deal out of trump having access to the nuclear button/codes, but I wouldn't be happy for Joe to have that responsibility either. Forcing another nuclear power to stand down, when you're impinging on it's interests and sphere of influence, not the wisest thing to do if moves escalated and backfired.

 

[Kroffe]

Imo Putin not having USA:s president wrapped around his finger can also be a good thing.

Fighting Russia would not be a good thing tho.
There must be a middle ground somewhere.

 

[mack341]

Imo Putin not having USA:s president wrapped around his finger can also be a good thing.

Fighting Russia would not be a good thing tho.
There must be a middle ground somewhere.

You have evidence/reasoned views that papa don was putin's pet?

Russia under someone like Putin will always have a seat at the top table, biden seems to suck up to china's leaders but insults putin, doesn't really make sense on the basis of what they both do in their respective backyards.

 

[Kroffe]

You have evidence/reasoned views that papa don was putin's pet?

Russia under someone like Putin will always have a seat at the top table, biden seems to suck up to china's leaders but insults putin, doesn't really make sense on the basis of what they both do in their backyard.

Not sure if pet is the word i would use, but it sure seemed like Trump idolized Putin.
The evidence would be him spending 4 years sucking up to him. =)

 

[mack341]

Not sure if pet is the word i would use, but it sure seemed like Trump idolized Putin.
The evidence would be him spending 4 years sucking up to him. =)

Trump does like the no nonsense, politically incorrect speak without fear types, he got on with duterte too afaik. [and erdogan] I think idolized is a bit far, buttering him up could be what he was doing.

He did increase sanctions on russia, tried to get the germans to change their mind about the russian gas pipes, sent diplomats/staff home to russia etc...I wouldn't say they were bosom buddies, but perhaps mutual respect for attaining power and leadership of millions.

 

[Kroffe]

Trump does like the no nonsense, politically incorrect speak without fear types, he got on with duterte too afaik. [and erdogan] I think idolized is a bit far, buttering him up could be what he was doing.

He did increase sanctions on russia, tried to get the germans to change their mind about the russian gas pipes, sent diplomats/staff home to russia etc...I wouldn't say they were bosom buddies, but perhaps mutual respect for attaining power and leadership of millions.

Agree to disagree then.
Imo the respect was only ever going in one direction, and it was not coming from Putin.

 

[mack341]

Agree to disagree then.
Imo the respect was only ever going in one direction, and it was not coming from Putin.

well after trump starting taking decisions not in russia's interests, I'm sure he came to dislike and mistrust trump, but high power people keep in with folk they may need to do a deal with, and can pick up the phone and speak direct.

We had no real conflict in those 4 years, whereas it looks like biden is exploring ways to pressure russia more directly, which increases risks for everyone, why threaten a nuclear power, just to see if you can.

 

[Kroffe]

well after trump starting taking decisions not in russia's interests, I'm sure he came to dislike and mistrust trump, but high power people keep in with folk they may need to do a deal with, and can pick up the phone and speak direct.

We had no real conflict in those 4 years, whereas it looks like biden is exploring ways to pressure russia more directly, which increases risks for everyone, why threaten a nuclear power, just to see if you can.

Like i said, i dont think fighting Russia is a good idea.
I much prefer if the two nations with the most nukes (by alot) stay on good-ish terms with each other.

I just dont think that Putin helping to put Trump in power was done out of respect.
I think he did it because he figured Trump would be easier to control than Hillary.

 

[mack341]

Like i said, i dont think fighting Russia is a good idea.
I much prefer if the two nations with the most nukes (by alot) stay on good-ish terms with each other.

I just dont think that Putin helping to put Trump in power was done out of respect.
I think he did it because he figured Trump would be easier to control than Hillary.

Half agree; Hillary had made some quite ominous warlike opinions, implying she would probably try to force russia to stand down in syria, she suffers from hubris and is imo demented in some ways with sociopathic traits. Trump was an egoist who likes golf, can't be all bad if he enjoys life, certainly someone I would watch with a cagey eye if I was a US citizen, but he is a bit of a caricature so you kind of know what you are getting, he'll be brash and confident.

 

[Kroffe]

Half agree; Hillary had made some quite ominous warlike opinions, implying she would probably try to force russia to stand down in syria, she suffers from hubris and is imo demented in some ways with sociopathic traits. Trump was an egoist who likes golf, can't be all bad if he enjoys life, certainly someone I would watch with a cagey eye if I was a US citizen, but he is a bit of a caricature so you kind of know what you are getting, he'll be brash and confident.

But thats kind of what im saying, Putin saw his chance to help a freaking reality tv star who spends 23 hours a day on Twitter get elected to President of the USA.
He must have been laughing his ass off when it actually worked.
=)

 

[mack341]

But thats kind of what im saying, Putin saw his chance to help a freaking reality tv star who spends 23 hours a day on Twitter get elected to President of the USA.
He must have been laughing his ass off when it actually worked.
=)

Yeah but can you blame him, if he did help trump beat Hillary [and I strongly doubt he did, but no doubt he'd want to have] I wouldn't be complaining, I am sceptical of the benefit of the last two wars we fought alongside the US, afghanistan and iraq, and the costs, so no to hillary was my view a good thing. The worry is the US establishment backing hillary in 2016 also want Kamala, hence Joe chose her.

 

[Kroffe]

Yeah but can you blame him, if he did help trump beat Hillary [and I strongly doubt he did, but no doubt he'd want to have] I wouldn't be complaining, I am sceptical of the benefit of the last two wars we fought alongside the US, afghanistan and iraq, and the costs, so no to hillary was my view a good thing. The worry is the US establishment backing hillary in 2016 also want Kamala, hence Joe chose her.

Russian interference in the election has been confirmed, no?
So its not an if, it happened.

 

[mack341]

Russian interference in the election has been confirmed, no?
So its not an if, it happened.

confirmed by who, not someone who is unbiased that is for sure.

edit: the statement was 'helped trump beat hillary', so it would need quantifying, anti hillary memes on facebook when there are already loads on there posted by republican voters?

 

[Kroffe]

confirmed by who, not someone who is unbiased that is for sure.

I thought who were the vaccine people, what do they care about that stuff?


But i dont think thers an if, i think it happened.
Putin saw his chance to help elect a fool, and now 4 years later, the democracy in USA is a bit shakier than it was before Trump took office wouldnt you say?
I think Putin is very pleased with how it all turned out.

 

[mack341]

I thought who were the vaccine people, what do they care about that stuff?


But i dont think thers an if, i think it happened.
Putin saw his chance to help elect a fool, and now 4 years later, the democracy in USA is a bit shakier than it was before Trump took office wouldnt you say?
I think Putin is very pleased with how it all turned out.

I would say it brought underlying tensions to the surface, the foundations were already in trouble. Yeah I suppose Putin must be pleased, in that the US has now more trouble and fires to fight as it were, but then biden is back in there straightaway to make it known 'dealing' with russsia is stiil a top priority for his administration, so the pressure and hostility is back on and raised.

 

[Kroffe]

I would say it brought underlying tensions to the surface, the foundations were already in trouble. Yeah I suppose Putin must be pleased, in that the US has now more trouble and fires to fight as it were, but then biden is back in there straightaway to make it known 'dealing' with russsia is stiil a top priority for his administration, so the pressure and hostility is back on and raised.

Yeah, i think Putin much would have preferred if Trump stayed in power.

Lets hope it stops with flexing of the muscles.
Because a war between Russia&Usa would kind of suck.


If shit goes down, ive already picked sides

Its not about me preferring Russia over Usa, i just dont think Biden could pull of riding a bear.

 

[Kroffe]

Could have used a bit more cheese, other than that it looks alright.

 

[geordiecolin]

Yeah but can you blame him, if he did help trump beat Hillary [and I strongly doubt he did, but no doubt he'd want to have] I wouldn't be complaining, I am sceptical of the benefit of the last two wars we fought alongside the US, afghanistan and iraq, and the costs, so no to hillary was my view a good thing. The worry is the US establishment backing hillary in 2016 also want Kamala, hence Joe chose her.

The media attacked and belittled Trump and supported Hillary before the election but despite that Trump still won that election. Hillary and the machine behind her has been salty about it ever since and looked for an excuse for losing which is where the Russia collusion came in. It is hardly surprising that Trump took to Twitter to get his messages across because the vast majority of the media,even around the World,distorted his message or ignored them completely if it painted Trump in a good light.
Now we have Biden who is just a puppet and Kameltoe who failed to get one nomination during the run off despite having Hillary and all of her backers supporting her.
It is not hard to see why Kameltoe is now Vice Pres or who is really running the show.

 

[Kroffe]

Back when Usa had respect.

Poor guy
"they were not laughing at me, they were laughing with me"




And now Republicans are whining about losing the respect of dictators.
Couldnt make this stuff up.

I wonder why Dictators from around the world liked the guy who declared himself the winner of an election before the votes were counted.


Also fun to see how quickly they dropped the "biden in bed with china" fairytale.
=)

 

[geordiecolin]

Back when Usa had respect.

Poor guy
"they were not laughing at me, they were laughing with me"




And now Republicans are whining about losing the respect of dictators.
Couldnt make this stuff up.

View attachment 152437

I wonder why Dictators from around the world liked the guy who declared himself the winner of an election before the votes were counted.


Also fun to see how quickly they dropped the "biden in bed with china" fairytale.
=)

Your talking about the same Biden who took his son to China while he was vice pres so that his son could set up deals worth millions to the Biden family as well as having sex with children and abusing them while he was there?

 

[mack341]

The media attacked and belittled Trump and supported Hillary before the election but despite that Trump still won that election. Hillary and the machine behind her has been salty about it ever since and looked for an excuse for losing which is where the Russia collusion came in. It is hardly surprising that Trump took to Twitter to get his messages across because the vast majority of the media,even around the World,distorted his message or ignored them completely if it painted Trump in a good light.
Now we have Biden who is just a puppet and Kameltoe who failed to get one nomination during the run off despite having Hillary and all of her backers supporting her.
It is not hard to see why Kameltoe is now Vice Pres or who is really running the show.

yes that is true, the establishment media's bias against trump would probably influence more people than anything Putin could have conjured up to damage Hillary.

Kamaltoe's doing a side role of being Joe's bossy nurse

 

[geordiecolin]

yes that is true, the establishment media's bias against trump would probably influence more people than anything Putin could have conjured up to damage Hillary.

Kamaltoe's doing a side role of being Joe's bossy nurse

The video that I posted above is quite good at highlighting how the media has behaved over recent years and the blinkered just swallow their shit

 

[Kroffe]

Your talking about the same Biden who took his son to China while he was vice pres so that his son could set up deals worth millions to the Biden family as well as having sex with children and abusing them while he was there?

Is this something that has been proved or is it just accusations at this point?

 

[geordiecolin]

Is this something that has been proved or is it just accusations at this point?

The proof is out their in both black and white as well as on video and pictures. And there is more coming very soon as I understand. Not that most media outlets are letting the public know

 

[mack341]

The proof is out their in both black and white as well as on video and pictures. And there is more coming very soon as I understand. Not that most media outlets are letting the public know

Yeah I thought it was a bit rich for Biden to go on about decency, and be bringing it back, yet if he couldn't influence his son onto the right path, it doesn't say much.

 

[Kroffe]

The proof is out their in both black and white as well as on video and pictures. And there is more coming very soon as I understand. Not that most media outlets are letting the public know

I think ill wait for the so called proof to be examined in court instead of accepting it as fact before anything has been proved.
There are alot of things out there, not all of them true.

Guess we will see how it pans out.

 

[geordiecolin]

I think ill wait for the so called proof to be examined in court instead of accepting it as fact before anything has been proved.
There are alot of things out there, not all of them true.

Guess we will see how it pans out.

The fact that you have not seen the proof anywhere on your media travels says it all

 

[geordiecolin]

Yeah I thought it was a bit rich for Biden to go on about decency, and be bringing it back, yet if he couldn't influence his son onto the right path, it doesn't say much.

The same guy who's decency opened up his country to child trafficers, sex trafficers,drug runners and cartels of which anything up to 50% have covid and has let them run free to spread it? The same one who lambasted Trump for his child cages ( even though those cages where from his own era as vice president ) but are now being used by him running at 600% capacity?
Can anyone say that the first few months of Biden has been a success? If so in what capacity?

 

[Kroffe]

The fact that you have not seen the proof anywhere on your media travels says it all

I think we have a different definition of what proof is.

Is this the same thing Tucker was talking about for 1-2 weeks before the election, before he suddenly lost the evidence when it was time to show it?

 

[geordiecolin]

I think we have a different definition of what proof is.

Is this the same thing Tucker was talking about for 1-2 weeks before the election, before he suddenly lost the evidence when it was time to show it?

I have no idea what he lost but he could not have lost it for long as its been online for months if only the media where allowing you to access the least graphic parts

 

[geordiecolin]

One point about the media. Most of the main broadcasters who hated Trump are in a steep decline because they no longer have Trump to target. Their figures are all tanking because they no longer have him as the bogyman and because of their tanking figures advertising has nosedived. They are laying a lot of people off and some are in deep trouble. CNN tried to paint Tucker out to be their next bogyman but he is not Trump so it has not worked.
The only viewing figures that have not been effected is Tuckers funnily enough

 

[Kroffe]

I have no idea what he lost but he could not have lost it for long as its been online for months if only the media where allowing you to access the least graphic parts

Like i said, we will se how it pans out.
Just because it exists on the internet does not mean its true.

Its obviously a horrible thing if they are real, but ill wait until its proven before i judge.

I bet someone with a bit of a budget could make deepfakes like the one below that people wouldnt be able to tell apart from the real thing.



Edit: Its pretty cool. And this is just some dude doing it at home if im not mistaken.

 

[cncas2123]

Has the Biden presidency started off well? Of course it has, a coherent Covid strategy and the roll out of a well co-ordinated vaccination programme, plus the stock markets on the up.
Calling Putin out for putting bounties on American troops ( proven by intel from Trumps administration) and not bowing down to China or Kim, no inflammatory tweets coming from the White House, and a relief bill that will help millions of America, this is all positive.
Definitely an improvement on the last incumbent and thank God for democracy and 80 million American voters.

 

[cncas2123]

Russian interference in the election has been confirmed, no?
So its not an if, it happened.

Yes, it was confirmed by Trumps own administration, something that seems to have been readily forgotten by a lot of people.

 

[cncas2123]

Is this something that has been proved or is it just accusations at this point?

Its the normal, its a rumour pushed out by Trump and his cronies, remember when Rudy went to Ukraine to get a dossier but came back with nothing? If there was any real substance to it, it would be in the courts by now.
Anyhow, I didnt realise that Hunter Biden was the one up for election, why people want to concentrate on him and ignore what the Trump clan have been doing for years just shows how blinkered their views are.
I dont think Biden or anyone connected to him ever had a charity closed because of concerns over the way funds had been used?

 

[geordiecolin]

Has the Biden presidency started off well? Of course it has, a coherent Covid strategy and the roll out of a well co-ordinated vaccination programme, plus the stock markets on the up.
Calling Putin out for putting bounties on American troops ( proven by intel from Trumps administration) and not bowing down to China or Kim, no inflammatory tweets coming from the White House, and a relief bill that will help millions of America, this is all positive.
Definitely an improvement on the last incumbent and thank God for democracy and 80 million American voters.

PMSL. Trump already had a strategy in place and it was going very well. Biden is more or less using the same program that Trump had going but they are making you believe otherwise.
Biden told us on video that there was no vaccines until he came into power or a way to inject it. This after he had already had his first shot.
I would say that his approach towards Russia is highly dangerous and demanding that they stop the Russia/Europe pipeline is not a good move.
America is becoming a China puppet. China has no respect for Biden and they told America yesterday that America are in no position to tell China what to do
Democracy by bipartisan agreement not by executive order. Before Biden became president he said that changing policy by executive order was for dictators.

 

[cncas2123]

PMSL. Trump already had a strategy in place and it was going very well. Biden is more or less using the same program that Trump had going but they are making you believe otherwise.
Biden told us on video that there was no vaccines until he came into power or a way to inject it. This after he had already had his first shot.
I would say that his approach towards Russia is highly dangerous and demanding that they stop the Russia/Europe pipeline is not a good move.
America is becoming a China puppet. China has no respect for Biden and they told America yesterday that America are in no position to tell China what to do
Democracy by bipartisan agreement not by executive order. Before Biden became president he said that changing policy by executive order was for dictators.

Really? The Trump strategy was basically to tell the states you do your own thing.
Thats an amazing high tech strategy, wonder why it never worked....
Look at he stats, if Trumps strategy was working so well why was it only 6 weeks after Biden got into office that the figures started coming down in America? Surely if Trumps strategy was so good the figures would have started coming down before then?

 

[geordiecolin]

Really? The Trump strategy was basically to tell the states you do your own thing.
Thats an amazing high tech strategy, wonder why it never worked....
Look at he stats, if Trumps strategy was working so well why was it only 6 weeks after Biden got into office that the figures started coming down in America? Surely if Trumps strategy was so good the figures would have started coming down before then?

Same reasons that they are coming down in the UK and most places in Europe. You seem to be simply believing what your told by msm.

 

[cncas2123]

Same reasons that they are coming down in the UK and most places in Europe. You seem to be simply believing what your told by msm.

No I believe in science and fact , fact Is uk is coming down because of restrictions and vaccination, Europe is going up because of lack of vaccine and the USA went up throughout Trumps last months and only started declining 4-6 weeks after Biden came to power.
Stats are there to see and I don’t been MSN to help me interpret the stats, whereas you seem to continually post conspiracy after conspiracy with absolutely no fact to back it up.
I refer you to the Hunter Biden posts, how come there’s no court actions and also was Hunter elected President? If he has committed a crime he should be punished but what has it to do with his father? What about the many cases against Trump? What about the Trump charity and it’s dodgy dealings? Why not spend some time focusing on those?