The bonehead is back

[mathsboy1975]

He's acting like someone who feels they have been treated unfairly. I would agree with him. At the time the treatment he received from other members was often worse than anything he ever done. Despite openly admitting to being compulsive and having a server gambling addiction, he was never offered any real help but instead he was treated like the weird kid in class and pointed and laughed at and belittled at every opportunity. No member was ever cautioned for this yet johnny received a warning for using such language as "beyond garbage".

I have to disagree here. He was offered a considerable amount of help. People suggested he get professional help for his gambling but ignored it all and just rambled on about his system. He hijacked a lot of posts, and even interfered with someones pre-PAB issues by contacting customer service on their behalf and ranting about it (I forget the exact thread but it happened). People attacking with personal insults may be a little out of order but the guy just gave people so much ammunition. Imagine if there were 10 people posting the same type of content with the same frequency that jonny did and this forum would be utter chaos and we would have to filter out so much nonsense to make sense of any thread that was "hijacked". How can you expect members and moderators to deal with such behaviour? He was warned, he ignored the warnings and then was banned for a short time.

The guy did himself no favours and I for one feel that sanity has been restored in his absence.

 

[paul7388]

Are you acting as a Shill to help get Johnny the attention he wants? LOL

That sort of quote sums up exactly what I mean by peoples comments at times. As for the comment about bullying being used to describe kids. Funny in UK theres a lot mentioned about bullying in workplace, Guess we must start work younger over here. But then again when you see some of the arguments and comments on here at times you would think it was kids.

 

[BMWSTACK]

That sort of quote sums up exactly what I mean by peoples comments at times. As for the comment about bullying being used to describe kids. Funny in UK theres a lot mentioned about bullying in workplace, Guess we must start work younger over here. But then again when you see some of the arguments and comments on here at times you would think it was kids.

Maybe your just being too serious. Intended to be funny hence the LOL and smiley face.

Yeah maybe that's a possibility on the age thing or maybe just the way we refer to it. I normally associate bullying with kids and if something happens at work its normally harassment I guess. Certainly everyone doesn't get along with everybody, but just not sure its really a big deal. You just don't associate yourself with someone if not liked or giving you a hard time, you could beat them up, or at work I guess you could go tell the boss.

 

[suzecat]

That sort of quote sums up exactly what I mean by peoples comments at times. As for the comment about bullying being used to describe kids. Funny in UK theres a lot mentioned about bullying in workplace, Guess we must start work younger over here. But then again when you see some of the arguments and comments on here at times you would think it was kids.

Sounds like you have the same type of social challenges as we do here in the USA. It's good to know that people are people no matter where they call home.

 

[catapultaudio]

I just want to say that I apologise to anybody who took offence at the title of the thread, by the time I went to change it I was no longer able to, if any mod wishes to change it to 'johnnygotthebon is back' or similar, please go ahead, but like Tirilej I only made the post as, after discussing many subjects with this guy at length, chatting via PM etc, I cannot come to any conclusion other than he is a troll, or seriously in need of psychiatric help - and for much more than his gambling addiction.

If you believe his behaviour is normal, that is your right, and I should definitely not have named the thread in such haste. I'm fascinated to learn what Brian has planned for Johnny? Is he to be allowed back in I take it? ....

 

[suzecat]

Johnny has been banned for life. He just keeps opening new accounts. Maxd says all accounts that Johnny opens will be closed and banned, no matter how long it takes.

 

[Tirilej]

Johnny has been banned for life. He just keeps opening new accounts. Maxd says all accounts that Johnny opens will be closed and banned, no matter how long it takes.

No, Max had to change his post, but you could have missed that if you read it too soon.
I don't think Bryan really knows what to do with him

 

[suzecat]

No, Max had to change his post, but you could have missed that if you read it too soon.
I don't think Bryan really knows what to do with him

Does Bryan need suggestions?

 

[paul7388]

I just want to say that I apologise to anybody who took offence at the title of the thread, by the time I went to change it I was no longer able to, if any mod wishes to change it to 'johnnygotthebon is back' or similar, please go ahead, but like Tirilej I only made the post as, after discussing many subjects with this guy at length, chatting via PM etc, I cannot come to any conclusion other than he is a troll, or seriously in need of psychiatric help - and for much more than his gambling addiction.

If you believe his behaviour is normal, that is your right, and I should definitely not have named the thread in such haste. I'm fascinated to learn what Brian has planned for Johnny? Is he to be allowed back in I take it? ....

No need to apologise its me that's made the thread the way it is. Maybe I should keep quiet as I seem to always stick up for people when I feel they are getting a hard time just the way I am. Way I look at it is johnny can be a right pain in ass but maybe he has got problems so think its unfair to slag him off as end of day management will ban him if need be but everyones got there own opinion. It wasn't just this thread but on many and way I look at it what someone does have mental problems then its not good to call them mad etc. If someone told me they were severely depressed I wouldn't call them mad or make fun out of them in case they did something. Its same when a new member comes on here at times they get ripped apart for nothing as people just presume they are not genuine. Was the same when I commented it was unfair to the girl who wanted to know how to quit the forum and she got ripped apart for nothing. But I really should just keep out of it

 

[paul7388]

No, Max had to change his post, but you could have missed that if you read it too soon.
I don't think Bryan really knows what to do with him

Saw that. Wonder what happened there as Max made his post and then changed it quickly. Was wondering why Bryan hadn't banned him himself as he had looked at his new profile earlier today but left it open.

 

[Jory]

Now hold on a little. I have spent a lot of time trying to talk to Johnny privatly. He don't listen.
I gave up and wrote that post.

I can try and help but I get frustrated too.
The guy needs help and I hope he will get it. We can't help him though.

If you genuinely want to help someone then the most important first step is to accept their faults of which people feel Johnny had many. Hating someone is the easiest thing in the world, it takes a lot more effort to see past their bad points.

Your opinion on what help he needs may not necessarily be the right one and the reason you feel he's not listening to you. You have to get to know someone really well before you can even begin to suggest what type of help, if any, they need. For all you know the best type of help he needs right now is simply allowing him an outlet for his emotions and that is what he used casinomeister for. The fact that he seems to want to be part of this community so badly shows that it was important to him.

Johnny is not a problem that can be simply swept under the carpet and ignored. If people genuinely want to help him, then first you must accept him for who he is. One way or the other, i'm sure he will be back.

 

[Johnnygottheb0n]

Hey Jory

If you genuinely want to help someone then the most important first step is to accept their faults of which people feel Johnny had many. Hating someone is the easiest thing in the world, it takes a lot more effort to see past their bad points.

Your opinion on what help he needs may not necessarily be the right one and the reason you feel he's not listening to you. You have to get to know someone really well before you can even begin to suggest what type of help, if any, they need. For all you know the best type of help he needs right now is simply allowing him an outlet for his emotions and that is what he used casinomeister for. The fact that he seems to want to be part of this community so badly shows that it was important to him.

Johnny is not a problem that can be simply swept under the carpet and ignored. If people genuinely want to help him, then first you must accept him for who he is. One way or the other, i'm sure he will be back.

This account was closed and now opened again??

I hope Bryan fires max for lying!

Max saying that same emails and ip addresses for my original account johnnygotthebon are the same is a lie!!!! It is not true

U know me Jory, I may have a big mouth but I am an honest person. I don't lie!

Talk soon Jory


Later

 

[Tirilej]

If you genuinely want to help someone then the most important first step is to accept their faults of which people feel Johnny had many. Hating someone is the easiest thing in the world, it takes a lot more effort to see past their bad points.

Your opinion on what help he needs may not necessarily be the right one and the reason you feel he's not listening to you. You have to get to know someone really well before you can even begin to suggest what type of help, if any, they need. For all you know the best type of help he needs right now is simply allowing him an outlet for his emotions and that is what he used casinomeister for. The fact that he seems to want to be part of this community so badly shows that it was important to him.

Johnny is not a problem that can be simply swept under the carpet and ignored. If people genuinely want to help him, then first you must accept him for who he is. One way or the other, i'm sure he will be back.

I never tried to help Johnny. I couldn't do that. I just tried to make him listen, but didn't succeed, just like I said

Let go of Johnny is my advice.

 

[Johnnygottheb0n]

Maybe I could help you?

This holier than thow attitude is getting crusty guys

I don't need help from anyone.

I helped myself!

 

[maxd]

Saw that. Wonder what happened there as Max made his post and then changed it quickly.

I logged on, saw the Johnny business had flared up again, banned the new account THEN discovered Bryan had left me a note about how he wanted to handle this. I immediately modded my post -- but left the original text as strike-out so people could see what had happened and then been reversed -- and unbanned the new Johnny account.

I hope Bryan fires max for lying! Max saying that same emails and ip addresses for my original account johnnygotthebon are the same is a lie!!!!

Be careful who you call a liar sweetpea, things like that are very hard to undo. I almost certainly never said a thing about your IPs because I pay little or no attention to them, too easily masked/spoofed/hidden/whatever.

As to the emails I'll happily provide the evidence I have to Bryan if and when he asks but I doubt that will be necessary because he can look it up himself in a heartbeat.

 

[dunover]

At the end of the day we are not equipped to provide 'care in the community' so his posts are either ridiculed, ignored or complained about. You can't help a person who doesn't want to help them self or listen. The nature of his ramblings is obsessive to say the least and ignores forum etiquette especially in mass-PMs he sends out. I'm sure he's a decent chap in real life, but it's the conduct on the forum we see and experience and if we all posted like that CM would turn into a complete khazi.

Put it this way, after today if you were sitting at the bus-stop and he was walking toward you with his hand in his jacket and a thousand-yard stare............

 

[Johnnygottheb0n]

Last post I will make max....

I logged on, saw the Johnny business had flared up again, banned the new account THEN discovered Bryan had left me a note about how he wanted to handle this. I immediately modded my post -- but left the original text as strike-out so people could see what had happened and then been reversed -- and unbanned the new Johnny account.



Be careful who you call a liar sweetpea, things like that are very hard to undo. I almost certainly never said a thing about your IPs because I pay little or no attention to them, too easily masked/spoofed/hidden/whatever.

As to the emails I'll happily provide the evidence I have to Bryan if and when he asks but I doubt that will be necessary because he can look it up himself in a heartbeat.

So u banned me accusing me of multiple accounts because of the similarities between posters???

What an assumption!

Like I said sir, the ip addresses probably don't even trace back to me.

I stand by my word. I did not have bloody multiple accounts

All this is your fault for assuming, end result I get banned for your negligence and your inability to act professionally.

Accusing someone of multiple accounts is a serious claim. U should have never done that to me sir. It's not only unfair, it is an insult and a disgrace to your intelligence.

If mr Bailey finally realizes that I was unfairly banned and reopens my original account johnnygotthebon, I will be happy to contribute years of experience to anyone.

U may go on the other forum. 50 k profit in August playing only slots and never depositing more than 250...... I must be doing something right!

I won't bother this forum again with this account. I pleaded my case. Nothing more can be done.

Jory and paul, Ü guys rock. Fair to me. Always. Ty

Mr Bryan, please unban my original account sir. I am Innocent of max charges. 100%


Ty

 

[weesie]

The main problem I had was trying to avoid reading his writing.

If I see a thread that looks interesting........... but... I see his name or simile of it, I had a tendency to skip the whole thread just because of it.

Just don't want to mess with it any more.

 

[suzecat]

The main problem I had was trying to avoid reading his writing.

If I see a thread that looks interesting........... but... I see his name or simile of it, I had a tendency to skip the whole thread just because of it.

Just don't want to mess with it any more.

I feel the same, it's too much to understand or deal with. This is a gambling forum and not a mobile therapy session IMO.

 

[BMWSTACK]

The main problem I had was trying to avoid reading his writing.

If I see a thread that looks interesting........... but... I see his name or simile of it, I had a tendency to skip the whole thread just because of it.

Just don't want to mess with it any more.

Yes Johnny definitely does not stick to the spirit of the forum and looks to turn it into his one man circus. He cannot control himself and needs to go elsewhere.

 

[fun4all]

The main problem I had was trying to avoid reading his writing.

If I see a thread that looks interesting........... but... I see his name or simile of it, I had a tendency to skip the whole thread just because of it.

Just don't want to mess with it any more.

I have to agree fully here. I want to like the guy and as far as I am concerned he seems ok but really, any thread he got involved in moved from "interesting" to "unreadable"

 

[chayton]

I think he was trying to fit in here shortly after his last ban, but then he started getting a bit overboard and posting more and more and more. He needs one of those things they put on race cars when they let ordinary people drive them, you know? A restrictor or governor that keeps them from going too fast.

If there was some way to limit his posting I wouldn't have a problem with him being back. The world needs all kinds of people, and not everything he ever said was wrong. In smaller doses he might be ok, but when every single thread is him - or no matter what time of the day or night you come in and the whole what's new feed is just him, it does get a little much.

Anyhow it's not my call - it's Bryan's house and it's up to Bryan whether he's allowed back and under what restrictions.

 

[fun4all]

I think he was trying to fit in here shortly after his last ban, but then he started getting a bit overboard and posting more and more and more. He needs one of those things they put on race cars when they let ordinary people drive them, you know? A restrictor or governor that keeps them from going too fast.
.

I think (and I am one of those people who just skipped over every post he wrote) I would like him back if there was some sort of automatic posting restrictor on him, like 5 a day max or something. I did think he kind of brought something to the forum in his own way I guess.

 

[chayton]

I think (and I am one of those people who just skipped over every post he wrote) I would like him back if there was some sort of automatic posting restrictor on him, like 5 a day max or something. I did think he kind of brought something to the forum in his own way I guess.

lol funny when he came back after his last banning they put him on mediated status so that the mods would have to approve his posts - with that machine gun posting style I think that only lasted two days before everyone got sick of dropping everything every minute to approve another post. And probably answering 5 pms with every post from him saying "Why haven't you approved my post yet?"

 

[spintee]

Lol I didnt read all posts but I see he has replyed and NOT BANNED,
People can come across weird and seemless but whens has that ever hurt any person?
With the roulete system if thats the case hes probably read 1 of them books that come in when the dinosaurs went out, Why come back and prove it? If works do you no think he would of had the prove by now?