Testing New Auto Clicking for Slots

justdoit

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Is like Crypto casinos they know we use VPN but they act they dont know, I wish UKGC casinos will let as use VPN on their casinos 😂
 

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Jeroensgambling

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For casinos, mouse tracking is among the most important things, because understanding how players interact with their casino site allows them to make changes that lead to more "sales." For example, to determine which providers and games players are more interested in and then make these more visible on the site. The same is true for payment methods.

Casinos can also use this information to enhance the overall user experience by ensuring that the most popular sections of the site are easy to find and navigate to. And knowing where players click can also assist in identifying areas of the site that are confusing or difficult to use so that they can be improved, resulting in more satisfied players and repeat loyalty.

I don't know what adblockers you're using, and on what casino sites you're playing, I'm using Brave Browser which instantly blocks mouse movements on any websites I visit, so they don't know where I click. I simply do not like any tracking.

I agree the mouse clicker is noting major because all it does is clicks on a button, but it is worth remembering the following rule, which can be found in the terms of almost any online casino. And as i mentioned before, this can work against the player in certain casinos and situations.

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That is nonsense what you write. I have'nt seen one casino that relies on user interaction on where they point their mouse. A casino website or design is made with a few key points in mind just as you see the design on a landbased casino. Everything should be in reach. Interface should be easy. People should be able to navigate freely and most important, give you that "isolating" experience. That is what a casino website is all about.

A script to track your cursor would be quite invasive for your privacy. And they would be against quite some privacy related rules. This is'nt a "facebook pixel" that is loaded to track your activity. Really casino's dont care. They make revenue based on your bets. When you use a auto clicker your just increasing the time in between bets placed to a maximum allowed extend. Lets say if a round on a slot must yield 3 to 5 seconds per bet then it's perfectly legal.

You would be in breach when you hack the client-side package to override the 5 seconds delay and bet much faster. Yes in that case the clausule "Using third party software" would be in terms here. Rocknrollah onstream uses a autoclicker too. Ideal but not ideal all the time. Any big win on a in base game is clicked away instant. And we have'nt seen messages of him being banned for that.
 

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That is nonsense what you write. I have'nt seen one casino that relies on user interaction on where they point their mouse. A casino website or design is made with a few key points in mind just as you see the design on a landbased casino. Everything should be in reach. Interface should be easy. People should be able to navigate freely and most important, give you that "isolating" experience. That is what a casino website is all about.

A script to track your cursor would be quite invasive for your privacy. And they would be against quite some privacy related rules. This is'nt a "facebook pixel" that is loaded to track your activity. Really casino's dont care. They make revenue based on your bets. When you use a auto clicker your just increasing the time in between bets placed to a maximum allowed extend. Lets say if a round on a slot must yield 3 to 5 seconds per bet then it's perfectly legal.

You would be in breach when you hack the client-side package to override the 5 seconds delay and bet much faster. Yes in that case the clausule "Using third party software" would be in terms here. Rocknrollah onstream uses a autoclicker too. Ideal but not ideal all the time. Any big win on a in base game is clicked away instant. And we have'nt seen messages of him being banned for that.

Did you used to work for the diplomatic corps by chance? Plenty ways to disagree without trying to provoke e.g. I have to disagree ....etc

I don't know much about the subject but it's taken me 2 secs to find this:



[written by someone who covers tech in the US]

When you visit any website, its owner will know where you click, what you type, and how you move your mouse. That’s how websites work: In order to perform actions based on user input, they have to know what that input is.

On its own, that information isn’t all that useful, but many websites today use a service that pulls all of this data together to create session replays of a user’s every move
 

Jeroensgambling

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I'm using an adblocker or 2, so such actions, scripts or sources are blocked. It would be some story of the casino denies my play because they cant run their (invasive) scripts properly.

And really they dont have to. They make money on the times you click bet. The more you bet the higher the percentage. If you would use a autoclicker you would click or bet more often in an hour of time rather then doing it by hand.

Your making fuss out of something that i, as a web developer myself for 14 years really cant relate to.
 

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I'm using an adblocker or 2, so such actions, scripts or sources are blocked. It would be some story of the casino denies my play because they cant run their (invasive) scripts properly.

And really they dont have to. They make money on the times you click bet. The more you bet the higher the percentage. If you would use a autoclicker you would click or bet more often in an hour of time rather then doing it by hand.

Your making fuss out of something that i, as a web developer myself for 14 years really cant relate to.

I take it that is addressed to me, not making a fuss, but you haven't disagreed with that article I referenced?

They'd have the option to try to deny a winning session if they wanted to, that's the point. They could decide to turn a blind eye in general because it's helping their business [that players can get round the autoplay ban and play longer, enjoy the games as they used to].

However it can never be said casinos won't sometimes search in length for reasons to cancel a big win/withdrawal.
 

Jeroensgambling

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Your talking nonsense. You are not breaching anything since you are within the required amount of time on how long a round should last. If that is set to 3 or 5 seconds, your autoclicker will still stick to that value. I mean you click a thousand times but if it's set for 3 to 5 seconds you wont be spinning another round untill that round is over.

Now, if i would hack the client-side file and somehow find a way to bypass the 3 to 5 second round-per-bet limitation, then i would be in breach. I would be betting faster then the gambling law dictates. Why do you think the limitation exists in the first place? Casino's make money on the bet you place. So if you bet faster but within respect of the minimum time in between rounds, casino's will not make a point out of it. Only you appearantly.

Casino's make money on the moment you click bet. It's that simple.
 

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Mouse clicks and movements might be used on a casino's web pages. But since the game is played and displayed in an iframe from the provider's server, I'm not sure whether the casino could track those clicks.
You're basically playing the game directly from the provider's server on a separate page, which is embedded into the casino's page
 

Jeroensgambling

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Mouse clicks and movements might be used on a casino's web pages. But since the game is played and displayed in an iframe from the provider's server, I'm not sure whether the casino could track those clicks.
You're basically playing the game directly from the provider's server on a separate page, which is embedded into the casino's page

Iframes is'nt used for quite some time now. We're in HTML 5 era these days and what you refer to is a simple hook that presents the game and the outcome is pretty much determined by the provider. The casino is just the pass through.

But the casino does send details such as your account ID and hash, so tracking is possible. But not in the way you'd think. Simply for reference what your bet or outcome was, nothing more really. It's often used to verify your "big" wins for example.
 

justdoit

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only danger of using autocliker is clicking on max bet 😂 like I did on Captain venture, my mouse moved and clicking £40 a bet

 

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That is nonsense what you write. I have'nt seen one casino that relies on user interaction on where they point their mouse. A casino website or design is made with a few key points in mind just as you see the design on a landbased casino. Everything should be in reach. Interface should be easy. People should be able to navigate freely and most important, give you that "isolating" experience. That is what a casino website is all about.

A script to track your cursor would be quite invasive for your privacy. And they would be against quite some privacy related rules. This is'nt a "facebook pixel" that is loaded to track your activity. Really casino's dont care. They make revenue based on your bets. When you use a auto clicker your just increasing the time in between bets placed to a maximum allowed extend. Lets say if a round on a slot must yield 3 to 5 seconds per bet then it's perfectly legal.

You would be in breach when you hack the client-side package to override the 5 seconds delay and bet much faster. Yes in that case the clausule "Using third party software" would be in terms here. Rocknrollah onstream uses a autoclicker too. Ideal but not ideal all the time. Any big win on a in base game is clicked away instant. And we have'nt seen messages of him being banned for that.

Feck those casinos then lol. Here is a decent tool for your website ;)





Some casinos usually add their own scrips, and some of them go too mad, below is one of them. Any adblocks do nothing, but Malwarebytes picks it up. But it is also possible that their domain is on the Malwarebytes blacklist.

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Jeroensgambling

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So then you have data of like, i dont know, 10k of users collected, and then what? They re-design or re-invent the wheel now?

Such scripts are blocked (at least from my side) if you use a proper adblocker.

It would be too evasive and anything within the EU would be having GDPR all over them.
 

justdoit

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So then you have data of like, i dont know, 10k of users collected, and then what? They re-design or re-invent the wheel now?

Such scripts are blocked (at least from my side) if you use a proper adblocker.

It would be too evasive and anything within the EU would be having GDPR all over them.
what happen to GDPR now in UK they not part of EU any more, did UK made new rules or they stick with same EU rules?
 

Jeroensgambling

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I'm sure UK has a law or code of conduct as well that you cant just perform such evasive scripts.

Stop; a good casino doesnt need to resolve to such scripts or hidden features to get or extract more information from it's customers. The math behinds slots do that already.
 

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So then you have data of like, i dont know, 10k of users collected, and then what? They re-design or re-invent the wheel now?

Such scripts are blocked (at least from my side) if you use a proper adblocker.

It would be too evasive and anything within the EU would be having GDPR all over them.
Not redesign, just make some improvements like for example swapping some elements over, removing some at all or adding something new instead. For 10k+ visitors, I think they analyse a "heat map" to see which areas are most frequently visited so that they can optimise those that are not.

That thing I showed you in the video collects only non-personal information, and as long as you have in your site terms page something like "We may collect visitor’s non-personal information to improve our site in terms of user experience blah-blah" for GDPR it's fine. But, to be honest, I've never heard of anyone having issues with GDPR.
 

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Well,

I still dont believe that to this day there are licenced casino's out there that run stuff to track user interaction on screen like that.

You'd say its used on a platform like facebook or instagram or something but primarily i block those evasive scripts. There's quite some good stuff out there like Ublock, Adblocker and even adsense which you can setup on DNS level. So anything coming from known advertisers domains is blocked.

Frankly advertising turned into so much shit over the last years that you cant surf the net without using a condom anymore these days.
 

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Analytics are at the core of everything now days. Whether they use mouse tracking or not (I'd argue this is expensive and unnecessary), they will be tracking interactions via what pages are visited, what journeys customers go through, what buttons they click etc etc (which is much easier to do than mouse tracking, hence I'm not sure why many places would bother).

But it's no different to, say, YouTube analytics that track how much and what parts of a video you watched, so creators can determine what parts of their videos are interesting or Facebook tracking what adverts you click on, or what adverts you linger on (stop scrolling) to then push more stuff your way they think you will buy.

Every company wants to understand its customer behaviour so it can exploit it for maximum efficiency. Casinos are no different. Where they place jackpot tickers, hot games, promotions etc. All of these have an effect on player engagement and therefore profit.
 

justdoit

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Well,

I still dont believe that to this day there are licenced casino's out there that run stuff to track user interaction on screen like that.

You'd say its used on a platform like facebook or instagram or something but primarily i block those evasive scripts. There's quite some good stuff out there like Ublock, Adblocker and even adsense which you can setup on DNS level. So anything coming from known advertisers domains is blocked.

Frankly advertising turned into so much shit over the last years that you cant surf the net without using a condom anymore these days.
way use so many app? they track you also... just use Tor browser no one can track you
 

Jeroensgambling

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Thats nonsense.

There's quite some TOR Exit nodes actually maintained by the NSA or whatever you wanna call it. The more exit nodes you control the better the chances are you can identify someone over TOR.

I already live with the idea that any form of digital or analog communication for that matter i send out can be listened to. The building of supercomputers that run into the exaflops are'nt there to just provide weather prediction. It woud'nt suprise me if it is able to crack most common encryption these days in a reasonable time-matter.
 

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Righ, got my auto clicker in place now! All I need is to see my slot spinning without me touching any buttons :D Playing at Merkur Slots Casino, a decent place by the way. If I win some 5k and they decide not to pay me, I won't become poorer, but in case 10 rolls in, I'll be in their Malta office ( half drunk likely) tomorrow.
 

justdoit

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Righ, got my auto clicker in place now! All I need is to see my slot spinning without me touching any buttons :D Playing at Merkur Slots Casino, a decent place by the way. If I win some 5k and they decide not to pay me, I won't become poorer, but in case 10 rolls in, I'll be in their Malta office ( half drunk likely) tomorrow.
I won £10k last week on partycasino my Auto-clicker runs all time they paid me in 4hrs, casinos they dont mine using auto clicker
 

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