Rtp but bad results

[astrid2212]

Pozdrav svima, imam pitanje o RTP-u u online kockarnicama. Koliko ja razumijem, svaka igra ima svoj RTP. Igrao sam u jednom online kasinu i 2 mjeseca je ova igra koju volim igrati i koja mi je najdraža radila jako "čudno". Mislim, nisi mogao ništa pogoditi, a na prvih 100 okretaja svakih 98 okretaja bilo je potpuno mrtvo. Kontaktirao sam korisničku podršku i pitao koliki je RTP za tu određenu igru (na igri piše da je 95,74%)..I am awear that is very possible to have very bad resolutes at one pooint but this was all time. Anyway support told me that on that day daily casino Rtp on all games together was 81.46%.I.am.now confused so my question is what is daily casino Rtp and is that means that Rtp on that specific game of 95.74% does not count? Sorry for my English is not that good hope that you will understand my question.

[Hello everyone, I have a question about RTP in online casinos. As far as I understand, each game has its own RTP. I played in an online casino and for 2 months this game that I like to play and that my favorite worked very "strange". I mean, you couldn't guess anything, and on the first 100 spins every 98 spins was completely dead. I contacted customer support and asked what the RTP was for that particular game (the game says it's 95.74%)]

 

[maxd]

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[astrid2212]

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[racingcat]

98 dead spins in a row is super rare.
what game were u playing? @astrid2212

 

[astrid2212]

98 dead spins in a row is super rare.
what game were u playing? @astrid2212

5 dazzling hot Amusnet.That happened before few days.But in last 2 months that game gives nothing on first 50 spins, nothing,and that happens all the time. But regardless of very bad resolutes I do not understand what casino means with daily 81.46% casino rtp?What is that?

 

[hubbadubbadingdong]

Pozdrav svima, imam pitanje o RTP-u u online kockarnicama. Koliko ja razumijem, svaka igra ima svoj RTP. Igrao sam u jednom online kasinu i 2 mjeseca je ova igra koju volim igrati i koja mi je najdraža radila jako "čudno". Mislim, nisi mogao ništa pogoditi, a na prvih 100 okretaja svakih 98 okretaja bilo je potpuno mrtvo. Kontaktirao sam korisničku podršku i pitao koliki je RTP za tu određenu igru (na igri piše da je 95,74%)..I am awear that is very possible to have very bad resolutes at one pooint but this was all time. Anyway support told me that on that day daily casino Rtp on all games together was 81.46%.I.am.now confused so my question is what is daily casino Rtp and is that means that Rtp on that specific game of 95.74% does not count? Sorry for my English is not that good hope that you will understand my question.

[Hello everyone, I have a question about RTP in online casinos. As far as I understand, each game has its own RTP. I played in an online casino and for 2 months this game that I like to play and that my favorite worked very "strange". I mean, you couldn't guess anything, and on the first 100 spins every 98 spins was completely dead. I contacted customer support and asked what the RTP was for that particular game (the game says it's 95.74%)]

First 98 spins dead, take a break or play a different game

RTP is based of math of very large numbers X by powers of trillions upon trillions ; not 97 out of 100

 

[astrid2212]

First 98 spins dead, take a break or play a different game

RTP is based of math of very large numbers X by powers of trillions upon trillions ; not 97 out of 100

I understand what RTP means and that it is based on a huge number of spins. Perhaps I didn't quite phrase my question correctly regarding what I'm actually interested in. So, the RTP for one game might be 97%, for another 95%, for a third 96%, and so on. Customer service replied to me saying, "The total RTP for casino games as of today is 81.46%." So I would like if someone can explain to me what is this? I do not understand what customer support mean with that as every game has its own RTP.

 

[Casinos Hate Winners]

Getting 97 dead spins in a row would be close to impossible even in games like DOA 2, he probably just ran into a rough stretch of spins.

You don't need trillions of spins for actual RTP to converge with theoretical RTP. Trillions of spins are needed to calculate RTP accurate to two decimal places.

 

[hubbadubbadingdong]

I understand what RTP means and that it is based on a huge number of spins. Perhaps I didn't quite phrase my question correctly regarding what I'm actually interested in. So, the RTP for one game might be 97%, for another 95%, for a third 96%, and so on. Customer service replied to me saying, "The total RTP for casino games as of today is 81.46%." So I would like if someone can explain to me what is this? I do not understand what customer support mean with that as every game has its own RTP.

RTP - Return to player percentage

Casinos can choose the win % which can be measured in %RTP (Return to player); this is a part of the programming and is Set on the backend of the game - and is rarely adjusted,

It’s basically your chance of winning, higher the number; the better the chance of winning (not losing!)

Play the machine with the highest % for best odds,

As I said in first message , this is calculated by arm of statistical mathematics and use the “laws of very large numbers”

Only way to be really sure you get close ro these % is to play longer than lifetimes !

So if each spin is $1; and one spin takes 1 second , and you are able to sit and play a round of a 1x 10^28 spins

First machine is RTP 50%, After 1x 10^28 spins, you have lost half your bank roll

second machine is RTP 84.1% After 1x 10^28 spins, you have lost 15.9% of u your bank roll

First machine is RTP 94.7After 1x 10^28 spins, you have spent 5.3% of your bank roll

Remember this is based of the law of Large numbers
1x10^28 seconds will be 317 Quintillion years (Each session is 23 Billion times the Lifetime of our Universe)

 

[Casinos Hate Winners]

Only way to be really sure you get close ro these % is to play longer than lifetimes !

In roulette, betting red or black, it takes 38,388 spins to pin the advertised RTP down to within one percentage point, and 3,838,794 spins to get it to within 0.1. So in theory that's something you could actually play out in a lifetime

Slots are a different story. Getting to 0.1 of a point there takes anywhere from tens of millions to tens of billions of rounds depending on volatility, which is much closer to the truth.

So play with bonuses and cashback, and grab as much extra promo money as you can.

 

[satchnz]

Getting 97 dead spins in a row would be close to impossible even in games like DOA 2, he probably just ran into a rough stretch of spins.

I tended to agree with you until just now.

I was meaning to reply earlier to say that I played Novomatic's Sultan Strike Hold & Win last weekend and got 50 dead spins in a row. Not one connection, not one cent returned. I spin at 0.20 and have a hard limit of 10.00 per game I play.

Anyway fast forward to tonight, I played the very same game, at the same casino, and on the same stake with my limit. I was floored to get another 50 dead spins in a row on this game. So that is 100 dead spins, in a row, over two sessions.

Because I always play at 0.20 with a limit of 10.00, I notice when I do have a run like this (50 dead spins in a row), and it does happen from time to time. But not often. Never had 100 in a row though before tonight.

This slot is definitely in my banned forever bucket now ffs.

 

[ultra100]

I.am.now confused so my question is what is daily casino Rtp

It means the combined actual RTP for all casino play during that day. In other words: (total amount won by players / total amount wagered by players) × 100. It seems that day was pretty rough for players.

RTP - Return to player percentage

...

It’s basically your chance of winning.

Well, technically, not quite. RTP and the chance/odds of winning are different concepts. As an simple example:

Game A pays $2 on 50% of bets. RTP: 100%.
Game B pays $1.80 on 50% of bets. RTP: 90%.

In both games, the chance of a winning bet is the same, while the RTP differs. But yeah, I get what you mean - in the long run, a higher RTP gives you better odds overall.

First machine is RTP 50%, After 1x 10^28 spins, you have lost half your bank roll

second machine is RTP 84.1% After 1x 10^28 spins, you have lost 15.9% of u your bank roll

First machine is RTP 94.7After 1x 10^28 spins, you have spent 5.3% of your bank roll

Remember this is based of the law of Large numbers
1x10^28 seconds will be 317 Quintillion years (Each session is 23 Billion times the Lifetime of our Universe)

That assumes an unlimited balance. With a finite bankroll you would eventually reach zero in all three cases. The difference is how quickly this would happen on average.

 

[Casinos Hate Winners]

I tended to agree with you until just now.

I was meaning to reply earlier to say that I played Novomatic's Sultan Strike Hold & Win last weekend and got 50 dead spins in a row. Not one connection, not one cent returned. I spin at 0.20 and have a hard limit of 10.00 per game I play.

Anyway fast forward to tonight, I played the very same game, at the same casino, and on the same stake with my limit. I was floored to get another 50 dead spins in a row on this game. So that is 100 dead spins, in a row, over two sessions.

Because I always play at 0.20 with a limit of 10.00, I notice when I do have a run like this (50 dead spins in a row), and it does happen from time to time. But not often. Never had 100 in a row though before tonight.

This slot is definitely in my banned forever bucket now ffs.

If it's not too much trouble, please request the transaction history with 100 spins in a row showing zeros instead of wins. This is really improbable, thanks, for classic slots, where there are very often wins smaller than the bet.

 

[satchnz]

If it's not too much trouble, please request the transaction history with 100 spins in a row showing zeros instead of wins. This is really improbable, thanks, for classic slots, where there are very often wins smaller than the bet.

I cannot seem to download my bet history so here are screenshots instead. As I mentioned above, this was 2 x 50 spins over two sessions (dates) and I didn't play the game in between these dates.

This is from the one with the numbers.

50 Spins on 29 August 2026

50 Spins on 4 September 2026

For reference, this is what the history looks like with wins (wins are in green)

 

[Casinos Hate Winners]

I cannot seem to download my bet history so here are screenshots instead. As I mentioned above, this was 2 x 50 spins over two sessions (dates) and I didn't play the game in between these dates.

This is from the one with the numbers.

50 Spins on 29 August 2026
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50 Spins on 4 September 2026
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For reference, this is what the history looks like with wins (wins are in green)

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Thanks, I'll take a look at how the slot works. In the demo, I immediately hit 20 dead spins in a row. Slots don't usually behave like that.

 

[satchnz]

Thanks, I'll take a look at how the slot works. In the demo, I immediately hit 20 dead spins in a row. Slots don't usually behave like that.

I had previously hit a 345x on this slot so it has the potential to pay something. Just not that often…