Question about T-Rex

[LHofsdal]

Hey Everyone,

I was always under the impression that if you got 5 eggs on T-Rex it was an automatic 50 free spins. I am I wrong in thinking this? I got 5 eggs last night and only got 45 spins. When I checked the help pages it does state that each egg CAN carry up to 10 spins. Now I have only hit this 2 other times but both those times I did get 50 spins.

I am wondering if this changed when RTG did all the changes with putting caps on winnings. Does anyone know if infact this was a change or I was just lucky those other 2 times and got 50 spins.

Thanks in advance.

LH

 

[Slotster!]

Not too sure on the mechanics of his particular slot, but just remember that the second you hit 'spin' and your little bit of data has flown across the internet into the RTG server - it spits back a little bit of information that indicates exactly how much money you are going to win from this 'event' and how it will happen. So, essentially, regardless of how many spins, or how many eggs, or how many pretty things happen - the outcome (financially) is going to be exactly the same regardless.

Know where you're coming from. I like as much pretty nonsense as possible

I like the RTG slots, I really do; used to play them a lot.

Just seems like a load of hassle (comparatively) from a banking perspective to play them.

[EDIT] What's with the sad face at the top of this post? Ha ha.

 

[KasinoKing]

Not too sure on the mechanics of his particular slot, but just remember that the second you hit 'spin' and your little bit of data has flown across the internet into the RTG server - it spits back a little bit of information that indicates exactly how much money you are going to win from this 'event' and how it will happen. So, essentially, regardless of how many spins, or how many eggs, or how many pretty things happen - the outcome (financially) is going to be exactly the same regardless.

I'm 99% sure that's NOT how RTG slots work - where did you get that idea from if I may ask?

KK

 

[Deanna]

Not too sure on the mechanics of his particular slot, but just remember that the second you hit 'spin' and your little bit of data has flown across the internet into the RTG server - it spits back a little bit of information that indicates exactly how much money you are going to win from this 'event' and how it will happen. So, essentially, regardless of how many spins, or how many eggs, or how many pretty things happen - the outcome (financially) is going to be exactly the same regardless.

Know where you're coming from. I like as much pretty nonsense as possible

I like the RTG slots, I really do; used to play them a lot.

Just seems like a load of hassle (comparatively) from a banking perspective to play them.

[EDIT] What's with the sad face at the top of this post? Ha ha.

I don't understand the mechanics at all...so why have an option to hit "STOP"? That doesn't change anything? I don't usually hit the STOP button because I'm afraid of screwing up what might be a good upcoming spin hahaha, but still. I'm so confused on how these slots work!

 

[LaHutti]

I don't understand the mechanics at all...so why have an option to hit "STOP"? That doesn't change anything? I don't usually hit the STOP button because I'm afraid of screwing up what might be a good upcoming spin hahaha, but still. I'm so confused on how these slots work!

Who knows ...unless you can get it from the horses mouth...unlikey
Personally I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter if you press stop or not....but then again ...I'll never know what would have happened if I DIDN'T press stop, will I ?...argh, I think stop can make you lose your money faster, since you can do more spins in a shorter time, and that's pretty much it

 

[Zepher]

Who knows ...unless you can get it from the horses mouth...unlikey
Personally I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter if you press stop or not....but then again ...I'll never know what would have happened if I DIDN'T press stop, will I ?...argh, I think stop can make you lose your money faster, since you can do more spins in a shorter time, and that's pretty much it

You know, this is something that I have dwelled upon many hours, wondering whether pressing the stop button would bring a different outcome to a spin than just letting it run itself to a stop. I was under the impression that the moment you clicked spin the software is instantly aware of the outcome of the spin before the reels have stopped. Then why have a stop button on some slots? Does it really make a difference? I'd say it does 'feel' like it does sometimes, but in reality how would we know otherwise?

What's going on here? Could someone explain how this all works?

 

[Mousey]

You know, this is something that I have dwelled upon many hours, wondering whether pressing the stop button would bring a different outcome to a spin than just letting it run itself to a stop. I was under the impression that the moment you clicked spin the software already knows the outcome of the spin before the reels have stopped. Then why have a stop button on some slots? Does it REALLY make a difference? I'd say it does 'feel' like it does sometimes, but in reality how would we know otherwise?

What's going on here? Could someone explain how this all works?

We've discussed all this before I think. But I can never find old threads....

The faster you play the faster you lose... If the Stop button made a difference it wouldn't be a slot machine, it would be a skill game. It's basically smoke and mirrors... eye candy...

 

[secret2]

Enchanted Garden

The night before last, I hit the stop button to try and get the lady on the last reel, it worked twice...because the reels were not spinning that fast...it was great BUT last night the reels were spinning very fast, so I didn't have a clue as all the reels were blurred because it was so fast.

Now, I am not sure if this was because of my internet connection, or that the RJ counter was spinning very fast OR that 'they' were 'on to me'.

OR...some 'conspiracy theorists' may say, 'Well, if you were 'programmed to win, then you'll win ..rtp..regardless of 'how' you play slots.

 

[Mousey]

Like I said... I just can never find what I'm looking for....

here's one of Scoblete's articles for starters...

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[chayton]

Well as soon as you hit the spin button the RNG has already calculated the outcome, so hitting the stop button doesn't change anything. The only thing it does is make the 'eye candy' quit moving, allowing you to play a little quicker.

Like for instance awhile back RTG did an update and there was a 'tell' on Cleopatra, if you got one or two scatter symbols and they didn't make that noise, you knew it wasn't going to give you three. That's because the RNG had already calculated that you wouldn't. But if you got one scatter and it made the noise, you knew you were going to get the feature. They've fixed it now though. Even 3Dice had a glitch in autoplay on one game where autoplay stopped so you knew you'd triggered the feature before the reels even stopped spinning....they've fixed that too.

But hey, if it seems to be working for you - keep pressing it!

 

[Simmo!]

The "result" must be passed in prior to the reels landing IMO because if you were to get a game error, crash or some such, the result has to be known so it can be rectified. Also, when you hit "STOP", it always stops instantly - there is never, ever a delay which you would expect at least once in a while if it still had to query the server.

When it comes to the free spins, what one can't really be 100% sure about is whether every "spin" event is passed before the feature or each spin is dealt with like normal spins. My hunch is the latter however, on one software once (can't remember which) I had a crash during the feature, logged in and the feature had finished and my balance had increased. So maybe different providers do different things.

 

[chuchu59]

Hey Everyone,

I was always under the impression that if you got 5 eggs on T-Rex it was an automatic 50 free spins. I am I wrong in thinking this? I got 5 eggs last night and only got 45 spins. When I checked the help pages it does state that each egg CAN carry up to 10 spins. Now I have only hit this 2 other times but both those times I did get 50 spins.

I am wondering if this changed when RTG did all the changes with putting caps on winnings. Does anyone know if infact this was a change or I was just lucky those other 2 times and got 50 spins.

Thanks in advance.

LH

Lori,

My thoughts exactly. In the past, it used to be 50 spins but recently it could come to 45 ie 4x10 plus 5x1. We cant prove anything as RTG can always argue that this was always the case though you might not have encountered it before.

 

[LHofsdal]

Lori,

My thoughts exactly. In the past, it used to be 50 spins but recently it could come to 45 ie 4x10 plus 5x1. We cant prove anything as RTG can always argue that this was always the case though you might not have encountered it before.

It's funny because I was looking at posts in another forum, and I was pretty much bored so I decided to skim through the screenshots on that site, now I found 9 screenshots from different casinos in the time frame from about 2010 to now. They were all with 5 eggs and 50 free spins. The last screen shot was from January this year and it was for 50 spins also.

So maybe things have changed or we were just lucky to get the 50 spins? I don't know, that is why I was asking.

LH

 

[Nifty29]

The night before last, I hit the stop button to try and get the lady on the last reel, it worked twice...because the reels were not spinning that fast...it was great BUT last night the reels were spinning very fast, so I didn't have a clue as all the reels were blurred because it was so fast.

Now, I am not sure if this was because of my internet connection, or that the RJ counter was spinning very fast OR that 'they' were 'on to me'.

OR...some 'conspiracy theorists' may say, 'Well, if you were 'programmed to win, then you'll win ..rtp..regardless of 'how' you play slots.

Sorry to tell you secret but the stop button only cuts short the eye candy sequence. The reel positions were already decided just before the the first reel stopped.

I'm certain that dogboy confirmed this some time ago (If the tin foil hatters hadn't chased him off he might be here to answer it again). He also confirmed that almost all "pick x of y" and "pick to reveal spins" rounds were predetermined i.e. it will award a set prize regardless of what you pick. IIRC one of the slots where it DOES matter is Texas Tycoon, but I'm pretty sure that T Rex wasn't one of the exceptions.

The T-Tex rules have always stated UP TO 50 spins for 5 scatters, based on the max for each egg being 10. I would suggest the spins awarded are in the range 43-50 for 5 scatters controlled by the software. After all, if the eggs really DID reveal a random number of spins, then one could get 10 spins for 5 scatters (min of 2 for each).....so that in itself logically says that it is predetermined, as I've never heard of anyone getting 10, or less than 50 (although admittedly I've only seen a few screenies and never had them myself).

One theory could be that awarding less than 50 spins indicates a different RTP variant, showing in a less obvious way than the double pear. Just thinking out aloud here.

Consider that if players could influence the outcome of the spin using skill e.g. the stop function, it would affect the RTP of the game in a huge way and make it theoretically possible for that player to consistently beat the slot.....and I would bet London to a brick that no operator in their right mind would want to be offering that game. Operators NEED to know the TRTP of their slots to create their budgets and business model and don't invest huge sums of money offering games that everyone can beat.

 

[secret2]

Thanks again, Nifty for your reply that was easy to understand for a 'layman' such as myself. I appreciate it. ( I mean it....not being sarcastic).

It does come to mind, when I play slots (RTG, of course is all I have, really) Crystal Waters...I ( it sounds silly)..but I dread getting a 're-trigger' of spins within a 'free spin'..because it seems to just 'water down' the possible winnings, if there were no free spins, at all!

 

[Stovetopp]

Are you guys for real?

I have tried T-REX The most i have ever got was 3 eggs and 2 spins eachj To top it off
T REX did not appear in my 6 spins Its a joke as bad as GOLDBEARD I like GOLDBEARD but no way tT REX

I dont think I will keep my word but if and when I get goldbeard on the first and fifth column and the ship on row3 column 2,3 and 4 I will quit.
If I do win , it wont be big cause I never play big when playing GOLDBEARD 60 CENTS AT MOST OR 10 LINES 10 CEBTS PER LINE

 

[Slotster!]

The "result" must be passed in prior to the reels landing IMO because if you were to get a game error, crash or some such, the result has to be known so it can be rectified. Also, when you hit "STOP", it always stops instantly - there is never, ever a delay which you would expect at least once in a while if it still had to query the server.

When it comes to the free spins, what one can't really be 100% sure about is whether every "spin" event is passed before the feature or each spin is dealt with like normal spins. My hunch is the latter however, on one software once (can't remember which) I had a crash during the feature, logged in and the feature had finished and my balance had increased. So maybe different providers do different things.

KasinoKing - this pretty much explains what I was getting at! (Thanks Simmo!)

A good way to see this for yourself is play one coin, one line on something like Spring Break or Ladies Nite. It's AMAZING!!!!!!! how many one line wins suddenly drop in during the free spins feature to add up to somewhere between 10-100x your bet; the payoff you'd expect from the feature

Similar the dinosaur bitches in the original question. Doesn't matter if you land one or seventy six - from the moment you hit 'spin' - the amount you're getting back is decided.

 

[Deanna]

Wow

I've never played T-Rex so I just tried it. I did a couple spins thinking "yeah, I'll be lucky to get 3 eggs, much less 5" when BOOM...5 eggs. I was betting $1.00 per spin and ended up with $615. Wowza... I did only get 45 spins to start but I got 2 re-triggers of 3 eggs each time.

It's a good day!

 

[SlotsRockImo]

My opinion on stoping the reels. Doesn't matter on the spin you just made. But it does change on the next spins. This only applys for the online casinos where multiple people play the same game. If you stop the spin you will get a different next game because you were faster and recived a different game ID. Hope this make sense.

 

[Nifty29]

My opinion on stoping the reels. Doesn't matter on the spin you just made. But it does change on the next spins. This only applys for the online casinos where multiple people play the same game. If you stop the spin you will get a different next game because you were faster and recived a different game ID. Hope this make sense.

I see what you're getting at, but each spin is random, so it makes no difference whether you get game ID 133 or 134 or 145 etc etc. The outcome is still random. The only way your theory would work was if certain game IDs were predetermined winners, which would mean it wasn't random.....but it is, so they can't be.

Stopping has absolutely NO effect on your chances of winning.

 

[SlotsRockImo]

Yes it is random. But you change the ID of the game that you will get next if you play faster or wait 5 minutes for each spin. That doesn't change anything but you do change what you get the next spin. Can mean you will get the jackpot or lose everything. But that is gambling both ways

 

[KasinoKing]

That doesn't change anything but you do change what you get the next spin.

Please look up the word "contradiction" in a dictionary...

And tell me, what is the point or advantage of changing one totally random spin for a different totally random spin when you didn't know what the first spin was going to be anyway?
I'm confused!

KK

 

[Slotster!]

Please look up the word "contradiction" in a dictionary...

And tell me, what is the point or advantage of changing one totally random spin for a different totally random spin when you didn't know what the first spin was going to be anyway?
I'm confused!

KK

Ha ha.

I sort of know what he's getting at.

Press it now and you'll get one result, press it in three seconds and you'll get a different one. So the speed at which you press the spin button DOES affect the outcome clearly -- but there's no way on earth to tell if you're affecting it positively or negatively. Just differently.

 

[Stovetopp]

I've never played T-Rex so I just tried it. I did a couple spins thinking "yeah, I'll be lucky to get 3 eggs, much less 5" when BOOM...5 eggs. I was betting $1.00 per spin and ended up with $615. Wowza... I did only get 45 spins to start but I got 2 re-triggers of 3 eggs each time.

It's a good day!

You lucky ....................

 

[BMWSTACK]

Hey Everyone,

I was always under the impression that if you got 5 eggs on T-Rex it was an automatic 50 free spins. I am I wrong in thinking this? I got 5 eggs last night and only got 45 spins. When I checked the help pages it does state that each egg CAN carry up to 10 spins. Now I have only hit this 2 other times but both those times I did get 50 spins.

I am wondering if this changed when RTG did all the changes with putting caps on winnings. Does anyone know if infact this was a change or I was just lucky those other 2 times and got 50 spins.

Thanks in advance.

LH

It seems your question got off topic to a Stop Button Discussion. I will try to give my input on your actual question. As you saw on the rules page it can "award up to 10 spins per egg". There is no guarantee that you get 10 spins per egg when you hit 5 of the scatters. I also have found that you get maximum awards when getting 5 scatters on games that award free spins, but again it is not guaranteed. For example I have got 5 scatters on the "clubworld" game. I did get the 100 spins. I also thought it was guaranteed to get the 100 spins when hitting 5 scatters until I hit 5 scatters and got less than the 100.
So in conclusion I feel that you have the greatest odds of getting the max when hitting 5 scatters, but its not always guaranteed.

 

[slotplayer]

How the RNG Controls the Online Slot Machine (source All Jackpots MG Casino)

Whenever a slot machine is up and running (even in between actual spins), the RNG is continually generating random numbers, at a rate of hundreds or maybe thousands per second. As soon as the "Play" button is pressed, the RNG stops and determines where the online slot machine reels stop. This means that the results vary depending on exactly when the "Play" button is pressed. A fraction of a second earlier or later, and the result would be different.

stopping the reels with the stop button does not change the outcome. so it is eye candy.

as matter of fact I've seen it on Count Spectacular, you can see the count wild symbol on reel 1 change to some other symbol, its pretty fast so you have to look closely. I also saw the same thing on the land slot ducks in a row.

I always wanted to video tape some spins and hit the stop button and then play the video back in slot motion and watch the symbol change.

I think the poster that said the win amount is predetermined might be right, not sure about RTG but back when I was playing an MG casino some years back the cash balance would increase before the reels came to a complete stop. Not in every session but I do remember this happening during a couple.

 

[SlotsRockImo]

Please look up the word "contradiction" in a dictionary...

And tell me, what is the point or advantage of changing one totally random spin for a different totally random spin when you didn't know what the first spin was going to be anyway?
I'm confused!

KK

Why do I contradict myself? Because at the end we are gambling and don't know what we will get if we spin fast or wait 5 minutes. Thats my point. You do change what you get but will never know what is better. Even I am losing (won't write "loosing no more ) myself tring to tell you what I mean.

 

[LHofsdal]

I know the rules state " Can be up to 10 spins" But not to long ago RTG changed something, like caps on wins and stuff. My original question was did the amount of free spins change to because I was always under the impression that with 5 eggs it was an automatic 50 free spins.

Like I said before, I was searching the screenshots on here and other places and up until just a few months ago all the screen shots that have 5 eggs were all 50 spins. I am just curious, because when the changes took place at RTG casinos no one was informed about it. Players started noticing the changes when Count Spectacular came out and some one hit all 5 Counts and the pay was less than expected.

I was just checking to see if anyone knew if it changed or not, that is all.

LH

 

[Nifty29]

I know the rules state " Can be up to 10 spins" But not to long ago RTG changed something, like caps on wins and stuff. My original question was did the amount of free spins change to because I was always under the impression that with 5 eggs it was an automatic 50 free spins.

Like I said before, I was searching the screenshots on here and other places and up until just a few months ago all the screen shots that have 5 eggs were all 50 spins. I am just curious, because when the changes took place at RTG casinos no one was informed about it. Players started noticing the changes when Count Spectacular came out and some one hit all 5 Counts and the pay was less than expected.

I was just checking to see if anyone knew if it changed or not, that is all.

LH

Just FYI Lori,

The max cap on payouts (usually 40000xline bet) has existed on all real series slots since they were introduced, so nothing has ever changed in that regard.

The count spectacular example is the "x line bet" cap at work. IIRC it was worked out to be correct and the OP had miscalculated.

It's possible the recent screenies of 45 spins is just coincidence, remembering the tiny % of total players we have here and the tiny % of those players that post screenies. It could also be a subtle change in RTP variant, but the only way we could be sure of that would be for RTG or an operator to confirm it.

AFAIK the trex rules have always said "up to 10 spins per egg".

 

[LHofsdal]

Thanks Nifty, I have only been playing on line for almost 2 years now so I wasn't sure.

Thanks again.
Lori

 

[chuchu59]

We will never be able to tell if anything has been changed. All s/s displaying 5 eggs yielded 50 spins and in JC's facebook forum I recall the players stating the same. However, since the rules state each egg could give up to 10 spins 50 spins is the max and could be less than that though it wont be long before we see an egg yielding 2 spins with the other 4 yielding 5 or 10 spins meaning you could get something like 32 spins. This will take a lot of lustre off them as its difficult to get 5 eggs. In fact, you could easily go 300-400 spins without hitting the feature let alone 5 eggs.

 

[jazzup]

...about few weeks ago.
Got retrigered few times, total end was about 130$.

 

[Nate]

Had a very interesting session on T -Rex last night.

I was playing at Sloto - I managed to get 4 Scatters around 3 -4 times (A Few 1000 Spins). Each time i received exactly 8 spins (2 Per Egg) .. Start balance of about $750 - $1 spins, Managed a 450x bet hit when i was down from $750 to $10. I obviously left the slot then...

I played later at Highnoon. Got the 4 scatters once or twice and each time I had at least 2 eggs with 5 spins....

Hmmm....

Nate

 

[De Beuker]

Had a very interesting session on T -Rex last night.

I was playing at Sloto - I managed to get 4 Scatters around 3 -4 times (A Few 1000 Spins). Each time i received exactly 8 spins (2 Per Egg) .. Start balance of about $750 - $1 spins, Managed a 450x bet hit when i was down from $750 to $10. I obviously left the slot then...

I played later at Highnoon. Got the 4 scatters once or twice and each time I had at least 2 eggs with 5 spins....

Hmmm....

Nate

With 3 or 4 eggs you just never know what will be awarded.
My highest for 4 eggs is 27 free spins (10+10+5+2), for 3 eggs its 17 (10+5+2).

Not that it made any difference in the end, 27 crapspins still paid shite..
T-Rex hates me..

Never got 5 eggs..

 

[Nate]

With 3 or 4 eggs you just never know what will be awarded.
My highest for 4 eggs is 27 free spins (10+10+5+2), for 3 eggs its 17 (10+5+2).

Not that it made any difference in the end, 27 crapspins still paid shite..
T-Rex hates me..

Never got 5 eggs..

Ive played the Slot a bit but I have NEVER had 8 spins on 4 eggs 3 times in a row. Every time it fell it always awarded 2 spins irrelevant of the eggs....

HighNoon on the other hand was easier to get eggs with 5 and 10 spins... Just odd for me thats all...

Nate