PSA - bet365 are no longer a max RTP casino ☹️

[satchnz]

Given crypto is in free fall at the moment, I decided I’d play locally today. One of my go tos is bet365 given they (used to) have their slots at max RTP across the board. But before depositing, I decided to check a random selection of their RTPs, and sadly it didn’t take long to find several slots set to lower than max.

One example is the Peter & Sons slot called Robin Sherwood Marauders. Bet365 have it set to 94%, but the max RTP offered by Peter & Sons is 96.1%. This is the same for Wazdan slots and Spinomenal slots (the latter being set at 93.x%).

If you are an RTP sensitive player then be aware.

 

[satchnz]

I ended up playing at Slots Temple as that seems to be the only UK licensed casino I can trust having max RTP across the board.

 

[YouTubeSlots]

Yeah bet365 have been rolling out lower rtps for the past few months now. But they do still have the majority of there games on the higher rtps. Like you say just play at slots temple. Thats were im playing right now! haha

 

[Mr Shine]

Is the Betfred "Vegas" (as opposed to "Casino") section ever less than max RTP? I haven't done exhausting checks but it seems to me every game I've checked there is max RTP.

 

[lockinlove]

Its getting brutal out there. Almost hard to find prags on 96% anymore.

Ive been playing other slot providers and ignoring certain providers because of this.

No limit City, Prags and playngo are very hard to find on high rtp now.

Shame. Truly.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Prags along with most major providers still on max at 365.

There are some dogshit pot games and some providers I’ve never heard of that maybe lower but the big guns all on max.

Again these and slots temple only place any uk player should be giving money to.

 

[satchnz]

Prags along with most major providers still on max at 365.

For now. It’s a slippery slope.

 

[teckiwi]

Its getting brutal out there. Almost hard to find prags on 96% anymore.

Ive been playing other slot providers and ignoring certain providers because of this.

Shame. Truly.

I'm dreading the day our NZ Gov forces a rev sharing agreement with online casinos(they already did with sportsbooks and plan to with online casinos), either will have to go to crypto ones instead or give up. No way I'm playing <95% RTP online, might aswell play brick and mortar at 91-94% RTP at that point

 

[lockinlove]

I'm dreading the day our NZ Gov forces a rev sharing agreement with online casinos(they already did with sportsbooks and plan to with online casinos), either will have to go to crypto ones instead or give up. No way I'm playing <95% RTP online, might aswell play brick and mortar at 91-94% RTP at that point

94% slots are absolutely brutal. Dont believe me go play Book of dead or Big bass on that rtp. Big bass is programmed to have about 50x the 2 scatter teases than the 96% and the payouts are just brutal.

Book of dead the same. You can clearly see a big difference.

I will never play that. Not a chance. I learned that very quickly.

But its like a flock of sheep. One casino does it, the greed sets in and other casinos follow suit until all casinos are like that.

It will end up killing the industry. Not right away but give it a few years when the degenerates really realize how bad the returns are and most people will quit.

Short term greed always causes long term damage.

 

[satchnz]

I'm dreading the day our NZ Gov forces a rev sharing agreement with online casinos(they already did with sportsbooks and plan to with online casinos), either will have to go to crypto ones instead or give up. No way I'm playing <95% RTP online, might aswell play brick and mortar at 91-94% RTP at that point

I’m firmly in the crypto casino space now so when I do eventually return home, I won’t need to deal with the new NZ regs. If the crypto space goes tits up then I’ll just end my gambling hobby.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yup no way I’m playing anything less than 96%

 

[ChopleyIOM]

With crypto doing as it is at the moment, it's a toss-up between which would lose you money fastest. The act of gambling playing online slots, or the crashing value of your crypto 'investment' between the time of deposit and any withdrawal that might be subsequently made.

 

[satchnz]

Yup no way I’m playing anything less than 96%

I’m exactly the same with one exception. I’ll play a new release ELK (who only offer 94% now) once or twice as I normally land the bonus fairly easily, and I’ll make a few bucks in the process. Anything over a week or two old and I steer clear.

 

[satchnz]

With crypto doing as it is at the moment, it's a toss-up between which would lose you money fastest. The act of gambling playing online slots, or the crashing value of your crypto 'investment' between the time of deposit and any withdrawal that might be subsequently made.

If you are looking at crypto as an investment then you are doing it wrong.

 

[SYPlayer95]

With crypto doing as it is at the moment, it's a toss-up between which would lose you money fastest. The act of gambling playing online slots, or the crashing value of your crypto 'investment' between the time of deposit and any withdrawal that might be subsequently made.

Isnt that diminished if you chose a coin like USDT. Pretty sure it's a stable coin and pretty much linked to the value of the US dollar?

I mean if you're depositing in BitCoin, then you are asking for trouble.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

If you are looking at crypto as an investment then you are doing it wrong.

Hence me calling it an 'investment' rather than an investment

I used it briefly at 3Dice when they were between having more traditional payment providers available but the second they had Mifinity available I dropped crypto like a hot potato. If nothing else the faff of it is a pain in the arse I can well do without.

 

[satchnz]

Hence me calling it an 'investment' rather than an investment

 

[lockinlove]

Alot of casinos are doing this and seems to be able to be changed very quickly.

I wa splaying on North casino playngo slots 96% rtp. I ran well and cashed out $2000. The next day the rtp removed and lowered.

Crazy they track things that closely. if a player gets a decent win, it angers them and just instantly turns down the rtp.

This industry is like a puzzle to get through now.