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New Slot Announcement Opal Fruits from Big Time Gaming!

Nicola said:
I was thinking this last night. I think each and everyone of us has been fooled by the potential of BGT slots and been sucked in to believing the life-changing win is coming. DoA II has shaken things up so I look forward to see what other providers come up with.

At ICE I asked the NetEnt guys why they didn't adopt the Megaways licence and aside from the 'asking price' they have prooved a 9-line slot is worth it's weight in gold! I know I was critical of NetEnt last year, but bloody hell I'm so proud of what they have achieved so far this year.

Megaways is being flogged to death now, wont be long before we see Cleopatra Megaways and Rainbow Riches Megaways :rolleyes:
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Oi you I saw your insane Final Countdown win :P If I was you I'd love BTG right now. Congrats btw!
 
Oh dear oh dear, BTG what have you made? I know some people will get huge massive wins on this game, I know people will get bad wins on this game, I know how bad the feature frequency of these games are. But Oh dear what have you made? Over 2k spins not one bonus... How can this be your games are good but there not worth the wait for a bonus, yes its down to luck and yes I'm sure people will get bonus after bonus but BTG what have you made? Its even worse than final countdown which I thought was impossible, Oh dear Oh dear what have you made.
 
It's a very good looking game, and the potential is huge. It's more exciting than The Final Countdown, but just as hard to get a bonus.

What is the average number of spins to get a bonus on The Final Countdown and Opal Fruits? Feels like it's harder to bonus those than Bonanza, but that might just be me.

I'm not gonna complain about the slot, it does look really nice, and i'm sure someone will have massive wins on it.
 
I've got to be honest, not long after finishing the video linked above, I genuinely just got bored of Opal Fruits and switched to a different slot.

I had one more feature and managed another retgrigger, the feature paid 100x stake so in fairness the three features I hit all paid well. I suspect my feature frequency wasn't too bad (does anyone know that the theoretical hit rate is on this?), but I can well imagine this routinely doing 1000+ spins for a feature, and over 2000-2500 at the outer edge. With the base game returning so poorly, that could be ruinous.

On top of that, the base game is fucking diabolically dull, and the feature feels far too hard to hit. With nothing else going on with the slot, I couldn't find the motivation to carry on.

In the end I got three hours of solid play at both VS and LeoVegas, and ended up withdrawing £75 from VS (from a £50 deposit), and £50 from LeoVegas (from a £50 deposit) - so a modest little profit as well.

PRO TIP - Taxi Movida at VS has a 98.27% RTP and sensible variance/feature frequency.
 
Might be just me but this game is the most horrible slot I've ever played.
I thought Bonanza was bad but this is like a mix of the final countdown, high voltage and bonanza together with even higher variance.

Got 4 bonuses in thousands of spins where 1 was okayish but the rest were shit.

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If this was was just a once in a time thing it would not matter but I must have played BTG games atleast a couple of hundred thousand spins, got tons of screenshots of all their shitty games and horrible bonuses. Big time gaming can suck it.
 
Played it for the first time yesterday and hit a quick bonus.Nothing great but nice win
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Is it wrong to assume that this is Bonanza with a slightly better feature frequency and a slightly lower base game RTP?

If so, it looks like BTG is trying to please everyone with the Bonanza recipe but it's not an easy task because at the end of the day it's the same TRTP.


Original Bonanza:
Good: base game RTP, bonus RTP
Bad: bonus frequency

Chilli and Millionaire (without gambling):
Good: base game RTP, bonus frequency
Bad: bonus RTP (only 8 spins)

Opal Fruits:
Good: bonus frequency, bonus RTP
Bad: base game RTP

Each variant of basically the same game would have a different "bad". Interesting.
 
Balthazar said:
Is it wrong to assume that this is Bonanza with a slightly better feature frequency and a slightly lower base game RTP?

If so, it looks like BTG is trying to please everyone with the Bonanza recipe but it's not an easy task because at the end of the day it's the same TRTP.


Original Bonanza:
Good: base game RTP, bonus RTP
Bad: bonus frequency

Chilli and Millionaire (without gambling):
Good: base game RTP, bonus frequency
Bad: bonus RTP (only 8 spins)

Opal Fruits:
Good: bonus frequency, bonus RTP
Bad: base game RTP

Each variant of basically the same game would have a different "bad". Interesting.
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Yeah I have said similar before. If they all return around the 96% mark then there are only so many ways to cut the cake and like you rightly say if one is better in one area it has to be compensated by being worse in others.

My personal opinion is they got it virtually spot on with Bonanza and since then they have been trying to fix something that wasn’t bust. As far as I can see all subsequent releases drop short of the mark in one way or another.
 
snorky510238 said:
Yeah I have said similar before. If they all return around the 96% mark then there are only so many ways to cut the cake and like you rightly say if one is better in one area it has to be compensated by being worse in others.

My personal opinion is they got it virtually spot on with Bonanza and since then they have been trying to fix something that wasn’t bust. As far as I can see all subsequent releases drop short of the mark in one way or another.
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Surely they could have taken bonanza, increased the bonus frequency slightly and dropped the average bonus payout from the claimed near 100x slightly to 90x or something. Doesn't sound a lot but would make a bit of a difference. No need to radically change any one variable.

To be fair to BTG I think that's what they tried with WWTBAM. There seems to be less middling bonuses, so I think they've reduced them and so you get bonuses which are more polarised i.e either crap or massive. The bonus in that game is probably the most volatile of the lot bar perhaps The Final Countdown.

In my very humble opinion, BTG peaked with DHV- it has pretty much the perfect balance. Volatility spot on.
 
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Mr_Slot5 said:
Surely they could have taken bonanza, increased the bonus frequency slightly and dropped the average bonus payout from the claimed near 100x slightly to 90x or something. Doesn't sound a lot but would make a bit of a difference. No need to radically change any one variable.

To be fair to BTG I think that's what they tried with WWTBAM. There seems to be less middling bonuses, so I think they've reduced them and so you get bonuses which are more polarised i.e either crap or massive. The bonus in that game is probably the most volatile of the lot bar perhaps The Final Countdown.

In my very humble opinion, BTG peaked with DHV- it has pretty much the perfect balance. Volatility spot on.
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Yes I like DHV although I have never hit more than x300 a couple of times and my best hits have come via the base game.

I didn’t take DHV into account in my post above as I was generally referring to the megaways theme so I tend to think of that slot as a stand alone.

Good point with Bonanza and I wonder sometimes wether games are tweaked a little here and there without us being told as from recent observations I would say the bonus seems a little easier to trigger but my average hit has gone down. Though in the great scheme of things it’s not a massive sample so who knows.
 
The problem with the way they've balanced Opal Fruits is if you have a bad run on feature triggers and/or feature pays, it's going to do serious damage, whereas the grindy base game RTP of Bonanza can really keep you going.

I really quite like the feature on Opal Fruits but the risk of camping it out is more than I'm prepared to take on again.
 
I have been playing this on Free Play for the CM comp, and ever since release pretty much daily on LeoVegas in real play..
I can now safely say i have done a sufficient number of spins to confirm what i initially felt when i tested it first.

This could be an amazing game for wagering purposes, the bigger the bonus the better in this case. It's surprisingly friendly, and can easily recover from longer dry spells - in both feature and base. There's sniff of the 'ole Rhino in the basegame, when you get all four 3x multipliers, or even more (so that you could have 3x, 6x, 3x, 6x for example, which can pay pretty damn well, even without the grapes:)), and the biggest hit i've seen without a 3x wild, was around 300x bet. That is of course nice to hit in the feature, with any multiplier, and even though it will not often retrigger more than once - there's still insane potential, with those kind of numbers.

I'm not saying you can't lose a bankroll on it, but it's definitely one of the most easygoing slots i have played in the last 10 years, and i've played tons.
I would stress that it's not a slot to highroll on: when you keep the bets to a minimum (average of 400x bankroll should be a 'safe' entry) but of course you can always go for a quick hit or whatever floats your boat. It's definitely an interesting slot, and i would most likely not have learned this without the incentive to hammer it for days during the freeplay comp..

So, my tip: give this a proper go, and it's volatility may surprise you..
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incrediblestuff said:
I have been playing this on Free Play for the CM comp, and ever since release pretty much daily on LeoVegas in real play..
I can now safely say i have done a sufficient number of spins to confirm what i initially felt when i tested it first.

This could be an amazing game for wagering purposes, the bigger the bonus the better in this case. It's surprisingly friendly, and can easily recover from longer dry spells - in both feature and base. There's sniff of the 'ole Rhino in the basegame, when you get all four 3x multipliers, or even more (so that you could have 3x, 6x, 3x, 6x for example, which can pay pretty damn well, even without the grapes:)), and the biggest hit i've seen without a 3x wild, was around 300x bet. That is of course nice to hit in the feature, with any multiplier, and even though it will not often retrigger more than once - there's still insane potential, with those kind of numbers.

I'm not saying you can't lose a bankroll on it, but it's definitely one of the most easygoing slots i have played in the last 10 years, and i've played tons.
I would stress that it's not a slot to highroll on: when you keep the bets to a minimum (average of 400x bankroll should be a 'safe' entry) but of course you can always go for a quick hit or whatever floats your boat. It's definitely an interesting slot, and i would most likely not have learned this without the incentive to hammer it for days during the freeplay comp..

So, my tip: give this a proper go, and it's volatility may surprise you..
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I agree.I am getting excellent play value on small deposits and on lower value spins such as £0.2,0.3,0.5 etc. I like the cut of it's jib.
 
It’s all a bit horses for courses isn’t it? You are not going to please all the people all the time as everyone has their own preferences. BTG regularly get quite the kicking on here as many feel they never hit that “sweet spot”. Problem is that “sweet spot” is more spots. Personally I don’t mind Bonanza and do like the fact you don’t often get a kicking balance wise. However, you also regularly go 100, 200x plus without a bonus (well I do) and I actually quite like the odd bonus no matter how well a base game plays.

With that in mind I’d rather take Bonanza on than Final Countdown or, by the sounds of things, Opal Fruits. If I am regularly going to wait hundreds, and possibly thousands, of spins for a bonus I sure as hell do not want the base game to also be handing me my arse.

If you are gearing your slot for infrequent, volatile bonus games then the least you should be doing is balancing your base game to help the player a little.
 
SteveBr said:
The 3x multiplier wild only exists in the base game, it’s not present in the free spins.
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Hi mate - was that in reply to me? Or just a general observation? :p
As i said, the x3 (or x6 if you get 2 on the same reel) wilds ar i hint of Rhino, in the basegame, and the biggest multiplier i have seen without using them, in the basegame, was about 300x..

Now that 300x wasn't even a full screen, which means you could get a higher basehit without multi, which is replacable in the FS, and so far, taking in an average multiplier (without retrigger) of around 5/6x, that is already a possible 1500/1800x in various combinations! With the purples or 2nd best symbol, that would be much higher. And of course there are the retriggers! I personally got up to like 36 in the Free Play promo, so imagine that x300 :D

Just clarifying in case you meant me/misunderstood me..:thumbsup:
 
Siohmy said:
It’s all a bit horses for courses isn’t it? You are not going to please all the people all the time as everyone has their own preferences. BTG regularly get quite the kicking on here as many feel they never hit that “sweet spot”. Problem is that “sweet spot” is more spots. Personally I don’t mind Bonanza and do like the fact you don’t often get a kicking balance wise. However, you also regularly go 100, 200x plus without a bonus (well I do) and I actually quite like the odd bonus no matter how well a base game plays.
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Yes, Bonanza can be mean but most of the time it's a very kind slot.

As for the rest, people want a good base game RTP, no crap bonus (so no 8 spins) and good bonus frequency. That's not possible for obvious reasons.
 
Balthazar said:
Yes, Bonanza can be mean but most of the time it's a very kind slot.

As for the rest, people want a good base game RTP, no crap bonus (so no 8 spins) and good bonus frequency. That's not possible for obvious reasons.
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Having it all obviously is but I always thought that slots were entertainment with a chance to win on the odd occasion. That is being consigned to history in favour of little to no entertainment and exceptionally unlikely decent bonuses.

The sort of bonuses regularly on YouTube should be once in a lifetime like events if the slot is designed with any sort of sanity.
 
Well here's a thoroughly dreary session on this slot for you, stats are shown below. Never above my starting balance, and with the exception of the 238x feature that nearly got me back to evens, it was all one way traffic - downhill.

Note that I topped over 1500 spins for a feature, and in time terms that was TWO HOURS AND TEN MINUTES (!) of constant spinning between features.

Not one I'll be bothering with again.

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£105 deposit, all played on 20p spins.

(Therefore deposit is 525x stake.)

Total spins = 2875

Average feature frequency = 1/575

Highest feature pay = 238x

Lowest feature pay = 15x

Average feature pay = 72.8x

Highest base game pay = 91x

SPINS - FEATURE PAYS

100
193 - 29.5x

100
200
300
430 - 238x (retrigger)

2 - 15.5x

100
200
340 - 15x

100
200
300
400
500
600
700
800
900
1000
1100
1200
1225
1325
1425
1519 - 66x (retrigger then five dead spins)

100
200
300
391 - BUST OUT
 
All I can say is thank fuck I've got a 4K screen on my PC, so I had the slot boringly chewing through my money in one corner, but I was able to play Hearthstone and/or have a YouTube video playing, as well as do Facebook/WhatsApp forums or read stuff on the net at the same time. (A 4K screen is essentially four 1080p screens in one.)

By the end I was just wishing for the bust out so I could go to bed.

(I've just taken this screenshot now, but this was the setup I had.)

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So the feature frequency is about the same as Bonanza then? Since the base game appears to be meaner, I guess they have put a larger chunk of the RTP in the bonus?

It's also possible that they increased the variance of the base game I guess, which would be why it appears to be meaner.
 
snorky510238 said:
My guess is there will be a lot more larger wins (when they occur) compared with Bonanza but also a lot more next to nothing wins. I think your middle of the road wins will have pretty much disappeared a bit like DOA.
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Yes the base game just doesn't keep you trucking like it does on Bonanza. I suspect there's more of the RTP in the feature in Opal Fruits, which with it being as hard to hit as it is in Bonanza, makes for a potentially miserable experience.

I was proper fucked off with it last night, slots only get one chance to annoy me like that, at which point they go on the 'never play again' list.

Honestly, I'd rather play the games at Tombola.
 
ChopleyIOM said:
Yes the base game just doesn't keep you trucking like it does on Bonanza. I suspect there's more of the RTP in the feature in Opal Fruits, which with it being as hard to hit as it is in Bonanza, makes for a potentially miserable experience.

I was proper fucked off with it last night, slots only get one chance to annoy me like that, at which point they go on the 'never play again' list.

Honestly, I'd rather play the games at Tombola.
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It strikes me as being a bit similar to the Final Countdown. I like Btg games but I can’t play that one for long it’s just so monotonous. Donuts isn’t far behind either.

There seems to be a trend towards these HV games at the moment, where we do see the odd big hit but of course they have to be paid for which means somewhere a lot of players are going through hell sitting there playing a base game that yields 0.5x wins relentlessly and bonuses that in the main pay sub x25.

A lot are trying to produce games like DOA because of its popularity and ability to produce monster hits but imo most are failing badly.
 
HV essentially now means that the bonus is a bugger to get, there's not much sophistication or mystery to it, just sheer grind. I don't think the trade off of low bonus frequency but higher average payout is actually worth it, getting stuck on a game trying to get a feature while your healthy balance is decimated is the worse feeling.

Netent's Vikings took £60 off me the other night at 20p spins before it gave me a £1.40 bonus, I'd rather have a more frequent bonus and take my chance of getting a big win even if the odds of that are slightly longer. As I understand it the 'churn' of hundreds of spins and small wins counts for rtp, so the longer a game takes to bonus is ultimately not in the interests of the player.

It does seem to me the older games, while not perfect and they could destroy a bankroll, got the balance about right.
 
The other problem with most (all?) modern HV games is that you're stuck chasing a single feature, there's nothing else going on to kick back some RTP to you.

Thinking back to say, MG'S Hitman (which I appreciate would probably scarcely classify as MV these days, but I always considered it quite spicy back in the day). You had three different bonus rounds, the crappy three scatters on 1-2-3, the crappy free spins with the 18 symbols, and the bonus round that could pay well with the three laptops. You also had the expanding wilds which could do 1-3 of reels 1-2-3 wild. On top of that it could hit a nice 5OAK once in a while as well.

So yes, in reality the three laptops was what you were waiting for, but you had all that other stuff going on to maintain your balance and occasionally kick back a decent win too, which extends playtime which gives you the chance to hit the all important big paying bonus round.

Losing 525x stake in a single session (which is what Opal Fruits did last night) is pretty brutal, thank fuck I only play at small stakes!

Oh, and waiting TWO HOURS AND TEN MINUTES for a bonus round? They can piss off with that, quite frankly.

EDIT - And all those reactions in the base game are so annoying, reaction after reaction, and then at the end of them all you've got like, 8x stake or something.
 
ChopleyIOM said:
The other problem with most (all?) modern HV games is that you're stuck chasing a single feature, there's nothing else going on to kick back some RTP to you.

Thinking back to say, MG'S Hitman (which I appreciate would probably scarcely classify as MV these days, but I always considered it quite spicy back in the day). You had three different bonus rounds, the crappy three scatters on 1-2-3, the crappy free spins with the 18 symbols, and the bonus round that could pay well with the three laptops. You also had the expanding wilds which could do 1-3 of reels 1-2-3 wild. On top of that it could hit a nice 5OAK once in a while as well.

So yes, in reality the three laptops was what you were waiting for, but you had all that other stuff going on to maintain your balance and occasionally kick back a decent win too, which extends playtime which gives you the chance to hit the all important big paying bonus round.

Losing 525x stake in a single session (which is what Opal Fruits did last night) is pretty brutal, thank fuck I only play at small stakes!

Oh, and waiting TWO HOURS AND TEN MINUTES for a bonus round? They can piss off with that, quite frankly.

EDIT - And all those reactions in the base game are so annoying, reaction after reaction, and then at the end of them all you've got like, 8x stake or something.
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Yes the reactions are obviously trying to emulate Bonanza but with less rtp in the base game it becomes an annoying waste of time something most megaways games other than Bonanza are guilty of.

I was just flicking thoughts around regarding the way slotting seems to be heading and I can’t help thinking these type of games are being created to satisfy the greedy providers and casinos.

It seems like long gone are the days when you could leave 2 or 3 hundred pounds in your account for a few weeks, play thousands of spins everyday and still withdraw at the end of that period.

Now it seems if you win today you will lose tomorrow. From a business point of view casinos don’t want games where you can sit on a £50 deposit and play for days. With the latest releases it seems you either hit big or bust pretty rapidly. This speeds up turnover which obviously speeds up the profit making. I might be totally wrong, just a thought.
 
snorky510238 said:
Yes the reactions are obviously trying to emulate Bonanza but with less rtp in the base game it becomes an annoying waste of time something most megaways games other than Bonanza are guilty of.

I was just flicking thoughts around regarding the way slotting seems to be heading and I can’t help thinking these type of games are being created to satisfy the greedy providers and casinos.

It seems like long gone are the days when you could leave 2 or 3 hundred pounds in your account for a few weeks, play thousands of spins everyday and still withdraw at the end of that period.

Now it seems if you win today you will lose tomorrow. From a business point of view casinos don’t want games where you can sit on a £50 deposit and play for days. With the latest releases it seems you either hit big or bust pretty rapidly. This speeds up turnover which obviously speeds up the profit making. I might be totally wrong, just a thought.
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It's hard to say for sure why things have gone in this direction, but maybe it's a combination of (a) Wanting people to lose their money faster and spend more and (b) Have MEGA EXCITING BIG WINS for the streamers to show as well?

One thing I would note is that a lot of the older slots are still available to play, and some providers are still producing lower variance slots with sensible RTPs. (For example Blueprint's new Beavis & Butthead is fairly LV, has a max prize of 1000x stake, and its RTP is solid enough at 95.49%.)

Even older HV slots seemed to have far more balanced profiles, for example BDBA would generally lob a good 5OAK at you in the base game once in a while, or a reasonable bonus round, to help keep the show on the road.

The problem with the greedy approach of slots like Opal Fruits is that people only have so much money, and so much time they're prepared to throw at these things, and once either or both of those are exhausted, folks are just going to turn their backs on them. (At which point you're reliant on addicts to keep playing, which is a shitty business model.)

The answer here is for people to vote with their wallets, if these insane HV monsters stop making money, they'll stop making them.
 
I also think especially with HV slots that the player should have a little more info as to the chances of hitting say x1,000 x5000 etc.

In essence we are playing jackpot machines here really. Some people (myself included) rarely play jackpot games because common sense tells you the chances of hitting one are slimmer than slim and that the base game and bonus rounds will be gimped to compensate.

These games are essentially the same imo but where the uneducated player is concerned they possibly think the chances of a big hit are much more likely than a jackpot game.
 
Opal Fruits is up across all brands, together with Ruby Casino Queen - rockabilly wolves in a casino theme :)

Good luck !
 
Luckyscouser45 said:
Sorry but what kind of garbage is this game :/ I’ve yet to hit a bonus on this. Tonight was the last time I go near it. Why make a slot so hard to bonus and the base game is just as rubbish too.
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Well i on the other hand gave it a shot at Betsafe last night
Hit 2 bonus rounds within my first 40 spins on .80 :cool: first one paid 10x
Next one got the retrigger paid 400x :)
Played another 25 spins then withdrew :D
 
Played this earlier today - random choice of slot to play (spotted it and thought , oh thats out now).. playing on minimum bet .10 - i got my first bonus in around 10 spins and it
gave me FREE and a x5 , so the bonus started at x5.. ended up with 300x.. after that ended around 10 spins later again it drops in again, just regular FREE, and managed 150x.

Went a little while longer , maybe 5 minutes of spinning later and dropped bonus again, and managed almost 550x. Retriggered 3 times getting over 30x multiplier, but then 4 out
of 5 of those spins at above 30x didnt give anything and the one that did gave me something was really pathetic :laugh: but still a very good result. Played a while longer and got bonus a
fourth time managing 100x, then finally a 5th bonus and got my first dud :laugh: 10x.
 
Well, this game can go f*k right off. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I most certainly hit a nice moment yesterday getting a few bonus's fairly close together and turning a £5 deposit on WH into nearly £100.

Today I went back for more with half that money and it just gobbled it up without blinking! :eek2: The amount of F, R, E i got was getting ridiculous - and
at one point before i busted - I had F,R,E on the screen, the rest of the screen blew up with a few wins leaving pretty much just F,R,E! and i was like ..
go on!! E! .. E!.... surely , most of the screens gone now!... but nope.

So this game is on my 'up yours' list now. :p :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
spoo42 said:
Well, this game can go f*k right off. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I most certainly hit a nice moment yesterday getting a few bonus's fairly close together and turning a £5 deposit on WH into nearly £100.

Today I went back for more with half that money and it just gobbled it up without blinking! :eek2: The amount of F, R, E i got was getting ridiculous - and
at one point before i busted - I had F,R,E on the screen, the rest of the screen blew up with a few wins leaving pretty much just F,R,E! and i was like ..
go on!! E! .. E!.... surely , most of the screens gone now!... but nope.

So this game is on my 'up yours' list now. :p :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Spoo, you are one of my closest virtual friends so I just needed to check in.

I’m worried about your extensive search for a magic ‘e’.
Longing for an ‘e’ is a bad, bad thing.
Maybe call FRANK (is that what the drug charity is still called?)

“Dream trippin yeah! That’s where I wanna be. That’s where I wanna be”


PS for those wondering wtf Supa is going on about.... an ‘e’ (ecstasy) is a mind altering party drug that can make you do daft stuff. Some places call it MDMA I think.
 

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