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colincaster
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Thanks, jpm & cipher.
CC
CC
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- Bierland
I met with the operator/owner and there are some funky things hapening here.
More details in next week's newsletter.
More details in next week's newsletter.
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GPRS = General Packet Radio Service (if I'm not mistaken LOL). Basically allows you to transmit data over a cellular network without having to actually dial up through an ISP.
PDA technical specs - Pocket PC 2002. Although the manufacturer apparently has a Palm version as well. Should work on just about any Pocket PC or Palm respectively.
Don't get the Toshiba - I have been looking at that for a long time LOL - but you will need to buy a phone card for that so might as well get one of the newer iPAQs from HP/Compaq.
PDA technical specs - Pocket PC 2002. Although the manufacturer apparently has a Palm version as well. Should work on just about any Pocket PC or Palm respectively.
Don't get the Toshiba - I have been looking at that for a long time LOL - but you will need to buy a phone card for that so might as well get one of the newer iPAQs from HP/Compaq.
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Hi Jigga, basic answer to your question is no. I decided to go back and play there to test the waters. BW was offering a couple of good bonuses that weekend, so it was a good time to try. I lost 2 out of 3 of them but made it all back and then some on the third one. But then it took almost a month (and some intervention by Bryan) to get it out of them.
Bottom line is, that based on this, I don't think they should be a rougue casino, but should be in the caution category. I believe that anyplace that takes this long to process a cashin of well under $1000 is having a cash flow problem and is a place to be wary of. Although they are offering great bonuses, I just don't feel comfortable risking my money and potential winnings there right now. If they get up to a week or less in their cashins, then I'll go back and maybe even recommend them to others.
But for right now, there are plenty of other playtechs out there that give good bonuses and payout quickly. Case in point, Carnival and Club Dice. I had bonus offers from them over the past weekend, made well over $1000 on them combined, and had my cashin deposited to neteller yesterday as promised. Consistent 4 day cashins. :yes: (Don't know what their problem with Colincaster was, since I play virtually the same way he does).
Bottom line is, that based on this, I don't think they should be a rougue casino, but should be in the caution category. I believe that anyplace that takes this long to process a cashin of well under $1000 is having a cash flow problem and is a place to be wary of. Although they are offering great bonuses, I just don't feel comfortable risking my money and potential winnings there right now. If they get up to a week or less in their cashins, then I'll go back and maybe even recommend them to others.
But for right now, there are plenty of other playtechs out there that give good bonuses and payout quickly. Case in point, Carnival and Club Dice. I had bonus offers from them over the past weekend, made well over $1000 on them combined, and had my cashin deposited to neteller yesterday as promised. Consistent 4 day cashins. :yes: (Don't know what their problem with Colincaster was, since I play virtually the same way he does).
Hi jpm,
I'm thinking of playing at Sun Palace what are your thoughts towards this casino? Do they payout within a week?
Anyone else feel free to comment, please
PS Taht e-mail addy jpm, try this one [email protected] Please remove nospam- & -nospam from addy.
I'm thinking of playing at Sun Palace what are your thoughts towards this casino? Do they payout within a week?
Anyone else feel free to comment, please
PS Taht e-mail addy jpm, try this one [email protected] Please remove nospam- & -nospam from addy.
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I'll check my notes when I get home and let you know. I am pretty certain I've played there, just don't remember details.
I'll resend the email to that new addy, thanks.
I'll resend the email to that new addy, thanks.
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That may be general Purpose radio service spearmaster.
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I'd love to know what their problem was with you CC. I play virtually the same way you have and they still gave me a bonus at each casino last weekend. Made over $1000 on one of them and cashed out with no problems, just got the $$ in neteller yesterday (4 days like clockwork). I wonder if they confused you with someone else.
colincaster
Dormant account
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I wish I knew too, jpm. I don't want any ill will with an online casino. If there is something specific they didn't like and they were able to articulate it, I may well have been willing to modify my play to their taste.
Like I said, before the conflict I had made exactly two deposits at carnivalcasino, both for 1K. I lost the first one, and on the second one I won 1K. So I was dead even there when I claimed that bonus on a $150 deposit.
Now, one possibility is that they thought I was too interested in bonuses. After I responded to the $150/$200 offer, I received a Father's Day promo which was running concurrently. I e-mailed them, asking if I was eligible for *both* promos, so maybe they considered that greedy or something (they never did respond to that e-mail). Of course, that would be hypersensitive of them.
A likelier possibility is that they don't like the fact that I'm up about 3K at their sister site (clubdice). If I get another promo from clubdice I will ask them about it and report back.
Or maybe it was as you suggested -- some kind of error. I'll let you know if the mystery ever resolves itself. Best,
CC
Like I said, before the conflict I had made exactly two deposits at carnivalcasino, both for 1K. I lost the first one, and on the second one I won 1K. So I was dead even there when I claimed that bonus on a $150 deposit.
Now, one possibility is that they thought I was too interested in bonuses. After I responded to the $150/$200 offer, I received a Father's Day promo which was running concurrently. I e-mailed them, asking if I was eligible for *both* promos, so maybe they considered that greedy or something (they never did respond to that e-mail). Of course, that would be hypersensitive of them.
A likelier possibility is that they don't like the fact that I'm up about 3K at their sister site (clubdice). If I get another promo from clubdice I will ask them about it and report back.
Or maybe it was as you suggested -- some kind of error. I'll let you know if the mystery ever resolves itself. Best,
CC
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That's what I mean, my situation is almost identical to yours, except for the two promos last weekend, I only got one. But I was up at least $3k at club dice as well, and played the same games as you. Its quite strange.
Did iGlobalMedia pay back any of the thousands they ripped players off for on the old software?
"Bug" my backside. Didn't Clockmedia claim something about a "bug"?
"Sorry people, but the software wasn't rigged, it was just an honest bug."
LMAO.
"Bug" my backside. Didn't Clockmedia claim something about a "bug"?
"Sorry people, but the software wasn't rigged, it was just an honest bug."
LMAO.
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I will be removing their software from my computer WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE as soon as I get home and I urge everyone else to do the same thing. I won't go back unless they clean up their act (not likely!). :sniper:
https://www.casinomeister.com/newsletters/
https://www.casinomeister.com/newsletters/
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Personally, I think the Brian Woods (operator of BW is full of sh*t). I doubt very much his top affiliates are earning over 100K a month, and if they are, I need to get into this business.
Anyway, Woods' comments about intentional slow payments are very telling. What a shabby operation.
Anyway, Woods' comments about intentional slow payments are very telling. What a shabby operation.
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Yeah, I don't really believe that $100k/month b.s. either, but I'm sure the part about the slow pay is totally true.
i'm not sure i belive the 100k thing either. but i would not be surprised if all that "bad" publicity does wonders for him. I think every single mesage board has a negative thread about BW or GB slow payouts - and it is always at the top of the list...and that is just the people that actually post. Imagine the ones who don't!
These domains are owned by Virtual Casino Group, Prism casino, don't hold your breath in actually obtaining a return e-mail from these rogue's.
As far as phone contact try this number ( Toll Free USA 1-866-864-7484 )
Cirrus Casino is also owned by Virtual Casino Group!
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As far as phone contact try this number ( Toll Free USA 1-866-864-7484 )
Cirrus Casino is also owned by Virtual Casino Group!
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Yikes, talk about the evil empire!
glodge, did you get my email I resent the other day?
glodge, did you get my email I resent the other day?
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Playing blackjack, turned their $30 free into $150.50, cashed out fine... might try their deposits later.
It's a 15*WR on the free $30, 30*WR on blackjack.
It's a 15*WR on the free $30, 30*WR on blackjack.
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Oh and by the way, just to put you all on the edges of your seats, B Woods has been responding all week to my expos. He has only denied one thing.....can you guess what it was?
Details to be published in today's newsletter.
Details to be published in today's newsletter.
Their three tier first deposit bonuses seem a little ambiguous. Do they really mean what they seem to? You can use the deposit $40 play with $140 three times? for a total bonus of $300. Seems "to good to be true". Or is it deposit $40 three times and then get a $100 bonus. The wording is a little vague. Has anyone who has played these got a report they are willing to share?
Hip Hop
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LMAO glodge.
I'll guess he denied the delay of payments to bonus players. Either that or he denied ever being there and meeting you.
I'll guess he denied the delay of payments to bonus players. Either that or he denied ever being there and meeting you.
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He denied being interested in the threesome while Meister was there with his tongue hanging out and drooling into Brian's beer... LOL...
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LMFAO spear! :rofl:
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From today's newsletter:
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The segment concerning Brian Wood's dialogue prompted this response from him: "I just finished reading it, not "bad" or not. I would like to say one thing. I was not interested in the threesome going on and you were the one who pointed it out to me Yep that was your finger, not mine."
So I guess I was the one giggling like a school boy as well.
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The segment concerning Brian Wood's dialogue prompted this response from him: "I just finished reading it, not "bad" or not. I would like to say one thing. I was not interested in the threesome going on and you were the one who pointed it out to me
Yep that was your finger, not mine."So I guess I was the one giggling like a school boy as well.
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I deposited $40, got $100, so I guess it's the former, haven't tried it yet because I don't want to massively push up my WR.
They do have a bad WR though, I believe it's 15* with Blackjack counting 33%, so effectively a 45* WR... believe that applies to VP too.
They do have a bad WR though, I believe it's 15* with Blackjack counting 33%, so effectively a 45* WR... believe that applies to VP too.
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Ok, so I embellished a little bit Now had you subscribed to Meister's newsletter... hint hint...
Now had you subscribed to Meister's newsletter... hint hint... Bet2gamble has a lot of threads about this casino which I never saw until after I posted about my experience. In 909 hands I had a loss of 150 units flat betting which is quite a bit over 4 standard deviations below average. 1 chance in 50,000 in a fair game. The super low win rate of 36.7% after over 900 hands was approaching that chance to.
They finally sent me a detailed play log with all the card values (3 weeks after sending just 30, saying it takes a long time to process the logs) but they spent so long at it I doubt it is legit (maybe they made the cards up). I couldn't find hadly any bias in it! Everything seemed very average (which looked suspicious) except the dealers 3rd or 4th cards were lower than average (but nothing at all near significant considering how many things I was looking for). Nothing suspicious and no skewed distribution at any group I tested for the cards. This implied the cards by themselves were independent of each other and random and the standard deviation estimate from every group I tested was very close to the actual 3.89 for the 13 card values in the log. After such a bad loss, I find it hard to understand how everything looks so average.
When I just list each hand result, I find a lot of strangeness apart from the overall result. The win rate is one but that follows from the result. Another is that the dealer had 59 Blackjacks! That is about 2.5 standard deviations above average but doesn't affect the overall result too much. Also, there is a definite skewness which implies the results aren't independent so results might be linked with previous ones. Independent data should be very normally distributed around the mean after so many hands.
(Message edited by Sirius on June 29, 2003)
They finally sent me a detailed play log with all the card values (3 weeks after sending just 30, saying it takes a long time to process the logs) but they spent so long at it I doubt it is legit (maybe they made the cards up). I couldn't find hadly any bias in it! Everything seemed very average (which looked suspicious) except the dealers 3rd or 4th cards were lower than average (but nothing at all near significant considering how many things I was looking for). Nothing suspicious and no skewed distribution at any group I tested for the cards. This implied the cards by themselves were independent of each other and random and the standard deviation estimate from every group I tested was very close to the actual 3.89 for the 13 card values in the log. After such a bad loss, I find it hard to understand how everything looks so average.
When I just list each hand result, I find a lot of strangeness apart from the overall result. The win rate is one but that follows from the result. Another is that the dealer had 59 Blackjacks! That is about 2.5 standard deviations above average but doesn't affect the overall result too much. Also, there is a definite skewness which implies the results aren't independent so results might be linked with previous ones. Independent data should be very normally distributed around the mean after so many hands.
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Forget what I said about the skewness of the hand results. I was using the wrong mean and I probably need to remove the pushes for the normal approximation to the binomial to be useful for this. Also, the standard deviation for the 13 card values is slightly different to what I said.
My results were very suspicious. $750 lost in $5000 of $5 bets. It's either rigged or I was unlucky to the tune of 1 in 50,000. Most other players had bad results.
My results were very suspicious. $750 lost in $5000 of $5 bets. It's either rigged or I was unlucky to the tune of 1 in 50,000. Most other players had bad results.
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Wow! sirius...you are indeed "serious"!
I reread what I wrote and some people trying to follow what I was saying would probably get confused. When I talk about the hands results being normally distributed about the mean, I am resampling the original data (randomizing it) to create lots of samples (I was going to use a different type of resampling based just on the overall sample probabilities which would make the sample means normally distributed but it might be better to give each one the same mean by shuffling the original data randomly many times and then grouping the data into many samples) and comparing the skewness to find the odds of the sample distribution. I will probably create a computer program to do it generally. It should be able to prove whether a sample is independent. I'm not really concerned abut the real payback, I'm just using the sample to test whether the results are independent.
I will stop editing this thing now..
(Message edited by Sirius on June 29, 2003)
I will stop editing this thing now..
(Message edited by Sirius on June 29, 2003)
The bit about grouping the data shouldn't be in brackets. The grouping method keeps the results in order with regular cut off points but after a lot of hands it won't matter. I have to create lots of samples from the 'random' results to test for skewness using the sample means of the groups. Using a computer, I can find the likelihood of a certain skewness using resampling, because otherwise the odds aren't very precise.
(Message edited by Sirius on June 29, 2003)
(Message edited by Sirius on June 29, 2003)
Just thought I'd explain a bit more! Basically, if the hands are correlated with previous ones (i.e. the outcome of previous hands can affect the following hands), the averages from the sets taken from the sample probably won't be distributed as a bell shape. The theory that proves that the averages for the sets would be distributed this way, requires the values in each set to be uncorrelated with each other (otherwise the variance of the sample averages is different than expected and changeable). Each set should have quite a few of the hands in order (if I remove pushes, then I won't need as much data in the sets for the theory to hold true). To be honest, maybe the distribution would still be the right shape, so maybe it won't be skewed! I'd have to test the variance instead of the skewness in that case and it probably won't be worth it. I haven't tried it yet properly.
There are other tests I could use but I'm not sure how accurate they are and I'm trying to find out accurately the chance of the hands being uncorrelated.
There are other tests I could use but I'm not sure how accurate they are and I'm trying to find out accurately the chance of the hands being uncorrelated.
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Thanks sirius! I seem to hear mixed signals. But have avoided. Hell the full page ad was probably cheap in comparison to the amount of $$$ they could make by a slightly skewed game. Also, since you can not w/d before meeting the pplay through requirements, you have to sit there and watch your bank dwindle...
Still keeping my distance.
Still keeping my distance.
orlandonative
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Wow Sirius, you simplified and simplified and I still don't get it. I thought I was reasonably intelligent until I found this forum. I'm just going to assume it's due to the fact that I'm a newbie when it comes to online gambling and it has nothing to do with my intelligence or lack of it. Ok, now I feel better. 
erica
ericaI thought I'd list my results. Doubles count as one but splits as separate hands. Bust is when I bust. Notice how I won 8 of the first 10 hands! I still lost 150 units flat betting $5 in just over 909 hands (slightly more is shown due to splits) which is about 4.1 standard deviations below average. Less than 1 chance in 50,000 in a fair game of losing this much after this many hands.
I think if you assume no doubles below I would be down 147 units and a payback of 84.278%. It was 150 down including doubles which meant I lost a couple more doubles than I won.
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If they rigged the software, they must have done it some way. I noticed my balance went steadily down apart from the start. Other people said the same thing when they flat betted but I don't think they would rig it all the time. Just looking at my results I seem to have too many single wins with losses either side so I could test for that. I was thinking before though that they may change the odds depending on recent hands which was what I was going to do a test for but the problem normally is that there are so many ways they could do it and it would be hard to prove statistically without more data unless there was a general test that worked.
I played in three different deposit sessions. Each had terrible results and I played just over 1000 units altogether (over 900 hands). I deposited $350 ($200, $100 and $50) and received $400 bonus (200% on the $50 and 100% on the rest).
I played in three different deposit sessions. Each had terrible results and I played just over 1000 units altogether (over 900 hands). I deposited $350 ($200, $100 and $50) and received $400 bonus (200% on the $50 and 100% on the rest).
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Someone please explain something to me. Slotland Casino is always rated so high, and is usually mentioned as one of the best online casinos for slots. Naturally, when I see that an online casino is rated so well, I have to try it out. They advertise 98% payouts on everything they offer. Now I have played thousands and thousands of countless dollars online...and have tried every brand of software out there I suppose. Any casino that I have played any substantial amount of money at, I have always had some pretty good hits...wheather it be on video poker or the slots. I must say that the only place that I have NEVER gotten anything decent, as far as winnings, is at Slotland. If I had only spent a few dollars there, then I would have no business making this observation....but I have given Slotland many tries, and have spent a decent amount of cash there. I,ve played the video poker, the wild hearts poker, and all of the slot machines. The graphics...in my estimation, are about the worst out there. There is NO sound at all, which takes away a major feature in the quality of gameplay as far as I,m concerned, and I could live with all that if the damn things just paid once in a while. Has anyone REALLY ever done any good at Slotland??? I am really puzzled by this. Why do so many people like it? It,s so far behind the technology of even all the other java ...no download casinos. There,s no phone number you can call. Contact is by e-mail only...as far as I can tell. So...I,m not trashing the place, but I just want to know why people play there? Seems to me that any other software is better than theirs. Appreciate the feedback! Tim
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I tried the free thirty dollars that 747 offered, and I actually liked the games.(slots) I had a few questions before I deposited my money, and after many e-mails, I never got a reply. When I decided that this casino was not for me if they can,t even return my e-mails, I wrote them to say that I would never play at a place that ignores e-mail after e-mail, and that I was moving on. Within 5 minutes of the last e-mail, I got a reply, which tells me that they could have replied to any of the previous e-mails just as quickly. It was only after I told them how bad their customer support was...and that I,d never give them any of my money, that suddenly they were able to respond right away. Would you trust a casino like this if you won something big? Do you think they,d be in contact with you about how you want to receive payment?? I doubt it!! That,s just my feeling about them... Tim
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As far as slots go, I,ve never played at a place that had as many different machines as Colosseum Casino. If you like MG casinos, this one,s huge. Not the friendliest customer support out there...but they pay without a hassle or a long delay as far as I have experienced. I wonder why the other MG casinos don,t have all the games that Colosseum does?? If 32Red...with their great customer support, had all of the games that Colosseum does, than that would be a winning combination. 32Red is kinda limited as far as slots go....but they and the tridente group of casinos are the most honest and friendly in my opinion.... Tim
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How long is it gonna say "newbie" under my name Meister???
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OMG...it just changed to "full member" after I posted the last message!! How did you do that?
I doubt the payout is anywhere near 98%. I remember they used to effectively give you 10% on every deposit (not sure if they still do). At the time they were also giving 10% of deposits to all affiliates/webmasters! Not sure what they give now but it's no wonder so many sites advertised them. That was 20% of deposits given away and they must make some money too so who know what the payout rate is.
I checked the site and their bonuses have increased. I don't see the payout percentage anywhere though. They still have the 10% on all deposits (for every $1000 you get $100). They also have this promotion:
"Every 10th deposit made at Slotland earns a 10% bonus
Every 100th deposit made at Slotland earns a 50% bonus
Every 1000th deposit made at Slotland earns a 100% bonus
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If you keep track of deposits you could deposit a large one on the 100th and get a 50% bonus. The sign up bonus is $10 free with a $10 deposit. I played here once only in 1999. They had the 'wild hearts' slot and I won a small amount which they paid with a money order which was strange.
At the time I remember reading they were giving 10% of DEPOSITS to webmasters. Now its 15%!! Also, it can be up to 25%. The 2nd tier gives a further 3%-5% of deposits from referred webmasters.
The bonuses to players only need to be wagered once along with the deposit. I don't really want to think what their payout percentage is like.
"Every 10th deposit made at Slotland earns a 10% bonus
Every 100th deposit made at Slotland earns a 50% bonus
Every 1000th deposit made at Slotland earns a 100% bonus
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If you keep track of deposits you could deposit a large one on the 100th and get a 50% bonus. The sign up bonus is $10 free with a $10 deposit. I played here once only in 1999. They had the 'wild hearts' slot and I won a small amount which they paid with a money order which was strange.
At the time I remember reading they were giving 10% of DEPOSITS to webmasters. Now its 15%!! Also, it can be up to 25%. The 2nd tier gives a further 3%-5% of deposits from referred webmasters.
The bonuses to players only need to be wagered once along with the deposit. I don't really want to think what their payout percentage is like.
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Thanks Sirius. Sounds like you really do your homework. Where do you play , if I may ask? Tim
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