Tips NordicBet Closing to all Customers Outside Scandinavia on 2nd. January:

[dunover]

Just received this from NordicBet:

Hi dunover,

As of the 2nd of January 2014, Nordicbet will no longer be providing sport and gaming services to customers located outside of Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Faroe Islands.

Parting ways is never nice but there is some good news too!

As part of this change we would like to introduce you to our flagship brand Betsson.com where you can continue to play all your favourite casino games, bet on all your favourite sports or participate in poker tournaments.

Details about your Nordicbet Account:
- You will able to withdraw your Poker, Casino & Bingo funds from your account at all times until the 02/02/2014.
- If you have POKER funds, on the 30th of December these funds will transfer to your Sportbook account and your Poker account will be closed.
- You will be able to withdraw your Sportsbook funds 30 days after the last bet has been settled.

If you have any questions, our Customer Support Team will be glad to help you through our
Live Chat service

Getting started with Betsson.com is easy because you already have a Betsson account!

Login now and don't miss out on Betsson's latest amazing offer where you can play the Betsson Classic jackpot games and enter the draw for a chance to win a trip to the Mardi Gras in New Orleans!

 

[Mouche12]

Just received it too, not happy about this, this was my favourite site for playing WMS games

 

[dunover]

Just received it too, not happy about this, this was my favourite site for playing WMS games

Yes, you need to open a Betsson account now I assume they have the WMS games? As the e-mail said I don't have to bother as I already have Betsson, although I'm pretty I froze it for 12 months a while back and can't for the life of me remember the login details. Don't worry Betsson give you the same fast payouts and service as Nordicbet. Bit of hassle though for you.

 

[Mouche12]

CS at Betsson says 24 hours for processing and another 24 hours for the money to reach one's e-wallet. Flushing is no option...

There are some WMS games, but not Zeus, my baby. So, I'd better go to Betsafe. Have an account there, still have to make my first deposit.

 

[rainmaker]

CS at Betsson says 24 hours for processing and another 24 hours for the money to reach one's e-wallet. Flushing is no option...

There are some WMS games, but not Zeus, my baby. So, I'd better go to Betsafe. Have an account there, still have to make my first deposit.

My experience is that Betsson pays out very quickly. Faster than most other accredited casinos.

Usually within a couple of hours to e-wallet (24/7).

 

[dunover]

CS at Betsson says 24 hours for processing and another 24 hours for the money to reach one's e-wallet. Flushing is no option...

There are some WMS games, but not Zeus, my baby. So, I'd better go to Betsafe. Have an account there, still have to make my first deposit.

Yes, their terms say this, but in practice they are far quicker.

 

[KasinoKing]

My experience is that Betsson pays out very quickly. Faster than most other accredited casinos.
Usually within a couple of hours to e-wallet (24/7).

That is my experience too - very quick.

KK

 

[naththo]

Yes, I also got that email. Thats a sad ending for excellent Nordicbet casino. But I can understand they made a choice according to licence and the jurisdiction. It may be some hassles for some of course.

 

[dunover]

Yes, due to the forthcoming 'protection' of UK gamblers and the necessity for UK offices and taxes for casinos taking UK customers, we are going to see more of this undoubtedly. NordicBet have simply planned ahead. I hope we don't end up shafted like the Americans with little choice. There are many foreign casinos like GUTS/Nordicbet etc. which have proved their reliability and integrity and provide 5* service - it would be a shame if us in the UK or any other previously-allowed country have to start facing unnecessary restriction on our choices.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

So are NordicBet saying that if they had to pay a bit of tax and base an office here, the UK becomes a non-viable market?

 

[Nifty29]

Yes, due to the forthcoming 'protection' of UK gamblers and the necessity for UK offices and taxes for casinos taking UK customers, we are going to see more of this undoubtedly. NordicBet have simply planned ahead. I hope we don't end up shafted like the Americans with little choice. There are many foreign casinos like GUTS/Nordicbet etc. which have proved their reliability and integrity and provide 5* service - it would be a shame if us in the UK or any other previously-allowed country have to start facing unnecessary restriction on our choices.

Funny...that's precisely what I said would happen with the looming UK Laws...and was told by the resident Rumpole that it wouldn't happen, and that it would force all operators to sign up for a licence and tow the line etc.

I've said if before, and I'll say it again. The upcoming UK Laws are NOT the knight in shining armour that some think them to be. It could well be that UK players end up with a severely restricted choice, with perhaps only the big bookies etc being available....and perhaps even LESS competition, which means less incentives for players.

 

[lotusch]

Tssssss...Just signed up there 2 weeks ago,I could have saved me the hassle...
And they could have closed signup for non nordic country players i.m.h.o a few weeks ago knowing this was gonna come.
I signed up only for their choice of WMS games and had a few nice wins and 2 cashouts with only playing WMS.

 

[incrediblestuff]

Tssssss...Just signed up there 2 weeks ago,I could have saved me the hassle...
And they could have closed signup for non nordic country players i.m.h.o a few weeks ago knowing this was gonna come.
I signed up only for their choice of WMS games and had a few nice wins and 2 cashouts with only playing WMS.

Lol be happy mate, you are thus parting with them while ahead?
That is great really, and those W.M.S. Slots you have tried there, are available to you in plenty of other Casinos

 

[dunover]

Funny...that's precisely what I said would happen with the looming UK Laws...and was told by the resident Rumpole that it wouldn't happen, and that it would force all operators to sign up for a licence and tow the line etc.

I've said if before, and I'll say it again. The upcoming UK Laws are NOT the knight in shining armour that some think them to be. It could well be that UK players end up with a severely restricted choice, with perhaps only the big bookies etc being available....and perhaps even LESS competition, which means less incentives for players.

I'm not saying this is definitely the reason behind their move, as it also seems they have dismissed players from other countries. But it could well be a pre-emptive move, and they are shifting players from certain countries into one place, tidying up if you like. As well as forthcoming UK changes other countries will surely follow, and it is also just as likely NordicBet may have acted due to changes in the Scandinavian market we don't know about. Either way they aren't likely to tell us but in a cut-throat market the UK changes cannot generally improve things for UK players.
The irony is that the most disadvantaged market, the USA, and the most unrestricted, the UK, could conceivably swap places eventually. If the USA opens up every software and site will pounce straight in there, while they abandon the UK and others who follow their example of domestic protectionism.

 

[dunover]

So are NordicBet saying that if they had to pay a bit of tax and base an office here, the UK becomes a non-viable market?

I'm not sure of that TBH, but it may have some bearing on their strategy and as a pre-emptive move they are separating 'safe' countries of their own region into the NordicBet label and those like the UK and Holland where changes are imminent into a separate entity. There could be a variety of reasons behind this, but until they tell us more we can't be certain. It would make sense as the costs and business model for their domestic and non-regional markets can be kept separate.

 

[lotusch]

Would it not cost them a lot of revenue by booting all non scandinavian countries?
Ah well,enough other places to play WMS and indeed I am leaving a casino for once while ahead a couple of 100 Euro's.

 

[kazzi]

Hope they plan to do more with the danish casino side then, i know they just added alot of MG slots but i rarely play casino with only 1 provider, would love to see them atleast get netent and maybe WMS but i dont hold my breath, used to play at nordicbet but after it went to only danish there was nothing to come for unless you was into betting/poker.

 

[lausitzer28]

Betsson, Betsafe, Mr.green, CasinoEuro, Bets10 = Betsson group

the funny thing is i planned to play at Nordicbet a little bit more in future because of the great rep here at CM but now we have to say good bye

 

[Loimu]

Betsson, Betsafe, Mr.green, CasinoEuro, Bets10 = Betsson group

the funny thing is i planned to play at Nordicbet a little bit more in future because of the great rep here at CM but now we have to say good bye

Mr Green is not part of Betsson group. It is their own company, not owned or has anything to do with Betsson.

 

[rainmaker]

Betsson, Betsafe, Mr.green, CasinoEuro, Bets10 = Betsson group

Bets10 is a white label and they are only using a platform provided by Betsson.

Bets10 (+ Casino Maxi and Casino Metropol) is operated by Realm Entertainment and should in my opinion be avoided.

They are mainly targeting the Turkish market.

 

[Realitybitez]

I got the same email too. Totally broke my heart as it was the main netent casino I played at

 

[lausitzer28]

Mr Green is not part of Betsson group. It is their own company, not owned or has anything to do with Betsson.

All i can read in the german version of mrgreens website. The Betsson owner are the owner of MrGreen as well. translate it

Wir setzen auf Vertrauen und sind keineswegs anonym. Die erfahrenen und innovativen Macher von Mr Green sind unter anderem Fredrik Sidfalk und Henrik Bergquist, zwei der drei Gründer eines der bekanntesten Wettanbieters dessen Name mit „B“ beginnt und mit „n“ endet. Als Managing Director fungiert Mikael Pawlo. Der Mr Green Kundenservice befindet sich auf Malta, um allen Kunden in Europa die bestmögliche Servicequalität bieten zu können. Lesen Sie unter dem Menüpunkt Hintergrund mehr über die Geschichte von Mr Green.

 

[mrmark21]

I feel bad for the players that were regular depositors at Nordic Bet as for me well I Self Excluded myself there for six months which turned into a year as I kept my account closed. They are a good casino and it's unfortunate to see them restrict their business to only Scandinavian players. Didn't they have some kind of fee when you wanted to do more than two withdrawals during a month?

 

[Finn]

All i can read in the german version of mrgreens website. The Betsson owner are the owner of MrGreen as well. translate it

Wir setzen auf Vertrauen und sind keineswegs anonym. Die erfahrenen und innovativen Macher von Mr Green sind unter anderem Fredrik Sidfalk und Henrik Bergquist, zwei der drei Gründer eines der bekanntesten Wettanbieters dessen Name mit „B“ beginnt und mit „n“ endet. Als Managing Director fungiert Mikael Pawlo. Der Mr Green Kundenservice befindet sich auf Malta, um allen Kunden in Europa die bestmögliche Servicequalität bieten zu können. Lesen Sie unter dem Menüpunkt Hintergrund mehr über die Geschichte von Mr Green.

Them being the founders of Betsson does not mean that they are the current owners of Betsson.

Betsson is NASDAQ listed company, the names of major shareholders are public knowledge, neither Fredrik Sidfalk or Henrik Bergquist can be found on that list, meaning that their share of the company is 1.3% or less.

So Mr. Green is not part of Betsson group.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Funny...that's precisely what I said would happen with the looming UK Laws...and was told by the resident Rumpole that it wouldn't happen, and that it would force all operators to sign up for a licence and tow the line etc.

I've said if before, and I'll say it again. The upcoming UK Laws are NOT the knight in shining armour that some think them to be. It could well be that UK players end up with a severely restricted choice, with perhaps only the big bookies etc being available....and perhaps even LESS competition, which means less incentives for players.

There is no evidence that it HAS happened yet, even though it may do. As well as the possibility of other reasons, it is also possible that some casinos will simply separate into sites dedicated to specific regions, more a book keeping exercise than avoidance of a market due to changes in regulations.

Other groups have announced changes to position themselves ready for a bigger push INTO the UK market, and at a time when they know that in less than a year they will be operating under the new regulations.

Even before the UK announced these changes, there were casinos pulling out of certain markets to concentrate on a "core" region, it's nothing new, and in the past had little to do with regulatory changes in their non core markets.

Others may feel that the new regime will give this activity a better reputation here in the UK, thus influencing more players to try out online casinos who would otherwise avoid them because they are largely "unregulated".

UK players also got a worse deal at many casinos compared to other countries when the UK had NO laws or regulations telling operators what to do with regard to the UK market. This persisted into the years where the largely unrestricted "whitelist" system was in force.

Most notable for giving UK players a worse deal than anyone else is Playtech. They had a restrictive set of terms that applied ONLY to the UK.