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[Freejeff]

I am French so my English is not 100% correct so please be kind whit me tanks

I'm from Quebec City and I play black jack for 4 months and I really enjoy this new hobbie !

I discover black jack in highscool in party playing for fun whit friend !

Every time I played I win all the money from the dealer friend !

I was very lucky lol and enjoy it !

I receive not so long ago a email that's state we cam make 500$ a day playing few hour a day playing roulette !
It was a martingale and super martingale systeme !

I began to play for free and win all the time ! I was very exited and I play for real and lost 300$ in one night!

So I says too myself maybe they let us win in fun mode to lure us to play for real ?
After that I decide to play black jack and learn everything from Internet !

I play for 3 month in practice using super martingale whit a stop lost at level 6
It goes like this 1,3,7,15,35,75
In practice mode from ruby fortune I always win like 500 $ to 1000$ a days so I try for real whit a bankroll of 1000$ I made 250$ and lost my 1000$ tree days after

So I figure that playing for fun it's not like for reel what do you think

 

[Cleveland]

So I figure that playing for fun it's not like for reel what do you think

Welcome to the forums.

I think anyone who thinks a system will always beat the house outside of them being lucky isn't working with a full deck. Only caveat is, blackjack does come with a set of "rules" so to speak on win to hit when not to, in an attempt to increase the likelihood of a dealer bust / player win, but that's for from a system.

And roulette system.....yea good luck with that one, and I'm a very avid roulette player. I await for the post complaining about 20+ blacks in a row.

 

[Freejeff]

Playing real mode vs fun mode

Is it a difference between the to mode ! Is there any difference in the payout ! Do they manipulate the payout in fun mode too make us win too lure us to play in real mode !!!


2 ! If there is a difference how can we test strategie before playing in real mode !!!

Is there any casino that have the same payout in fun mode then in real mode !

Because I m testing a new strategie in fun mode and win almost all the time ! It not martingale !!!!
I want to know if all casino have differente payout in fun moe than real mode !

I want to practice this strategie before risking any more money but want to make sure that they have the same payout in real mode and practice mode


Any casino you suggeste that you are sure they have the same payout !!!!


Maybe it the martingale that's make me think they change the payout but I play for 3 month I fun mode and I alway win and in reel mode lost it all

 

[bsilva028]

welcome to the forum

to be honnest in poker / blackjack its not my strong, i play more slots, when playing for fun i dont see much difference in the winnings

 

[Freejeff]

Fun mode vs reel mode

I made 10000$ in fun mode and lost 1000$ in real mode whit martingale so I notice a very good difference lol
At ruby fortune

 

[Freejeff]

So now my fear is that I'm testing a new approach and want to play at a casino that have the same payout in real than in fun !!!


Any suggestion of casino might help me !

 

[Freejeff]

Loto Quebec espace jeu casino

Do you think this casino is fair and that have same payout in fun mode them real mode !!

Why this espace jeu loto Quebec is not listed in your accredited casino

 

[Cleveland]

So now my fear is that I'm testing a new approach and want to play at a casino that have the same payout in real than in fun !!!


Any suggestion of casino might help me !

I'll try this again, hopefully someone who speaks your native tongue can translate. You will continue to lose a lot of money if you bet thinking a system will beat the house. Outside of card counting at a B&M, no system will guarantee you a win. The only "system" that works when it comes to playing roulette, blackjack, or slots, is to go in with what you're willing to lose, and walk away when you're up.

 

[Freejeff]

But my question is do casino boost there payout in fun mode !

Because in fun mode I always win and real mode alway lose no matter the way I play

 

[Cleveland]

But my question is do casino boost there payout in fun mode !

Because in fun mode I always win and real mode alway lose no matter the way I play

I've played some very realistic feeling fun modes, so much so I decided not to deposit, as I felt I had did enough losing for the day. That being said I'm sure someone here has a solid yes or no answer based on facts.

I'm sure fun mode doesn't have to adhere to RTP %s as strictly as real mode, and I can see them being a bit more lose. Point is I don't know the answer (yes long way of saying it).

But by the same token that answer doesn't matter. If you were just curious that would be one thing, but you're asking as a basis for judging your system. Just because something works in fun mode, doesn't mean it will work in real mode. The same way winning one night at a casino in real mode, doesn't mean the next night if you do everything the exact same way you will win.

Play to have fun, know when to walk away, don't go in thinking your method will net you profits day in day out.

 

[incrediblestuff]

Principally all accredited Casinos here, and for that matter most of the Casinos that are "Regulated" would have to have exactly the same payout in both Freeplay and Realplay: Unless clearly stated it would be deceptive, and i.m.o bordering on criminal.

I know there have been several threads throughout the years on the subject, i would recommend using the search function and typing in
"Freeplay vs realplay" or "Fun mode vs real mode"

Here is a thread where there which might interest you:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...gged-slots.55080/?highlight=freeplay+realplay

Oh, and welcome to the forums

 

[Freejeff]

Tank you I will read this tread !!!

But again in real mode the losing strike seem to come mor often than in fun mode !

 

[Freejeff]

Do someone know the software loto Quebec use !

 

[bsilva028]

But my question is do casino boost there payout in fun mode !

Because in fun mode I always win and real mode alway lose no matter the way I play

i also have already won lots in fun mode and lost in real mode

but also lost in fun mode and won in real mode

if the casino is honnest, probably will not cheat you
if the casino is rogue, probably will make everything to try get your cash

 

[Freejeff]

Tanks for welcoming

Tanks every one for welcoming !

 

[Freejeff]

Betting strategie black jack

Is there a place in the forum that's we can explain our betting strategie ?

Because I want to share whit other that might be interesting ?

 

[Freejeff]

And it not martingale or parlay ! It's something new that's not discuss on any forum out there !

I don't win all the time but its is better then flat betting !

I don't want money by telling the secret !
I just want people to try it if they are interested to look at it !

So let me know where I can post it on this forum and if I'm allowed to do so on this forum ?

 

[incrediblestuff]

If you present it as a theory, or like you just said, something that has worked for you, i think it's no issue at all. As long as it's not followed by links to other fora or you start p.m.-ing people to sell it, you can't be punished

Maybe the best place to start a thread would be here https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/community/online-casinos/
or here Link Outdated / Removed

And if it's laughable i'd put it here https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/community/jokes/



Of course there are a lot of seasoned BJ players here, some have don pretty well for themselves, so don't be afraid to get some critical replies.

 

[klara1968]

WELCOME

Welcome to the best forum in ROME...LOL
Hope you'll enjoy here and learn some interesting things about the fantasy of gambling online.

real and fun usually use the same random generating system imho.

GOOD LUCK

 

[skiny]

And it not martingale or parlay ! It's something new that's not discuss on any forum out there !

I don't win all the time but its is better then flat betting !

I don't want money by telling the secret !
I just want people to try it if they are interested to look at it !

So let me know where I can post it on this forum and if I'm allowed to do so on this forum ?

What you don't seem to understand is that there is no strategy that will predict the outcome of a random event. This is why casinos stick to games of chance. The only game that can be beat with a system is blackjack and that only works if you can count the cards which means you have to be physically sitting at the blackjack table and you will get tossed out the minute they suspect you of doing it.

Roulette is a whole other ball game. If the game is truly random it makes no difference where the ball landed on the last bet or where it landed on the last 10 thousand bets. You can spend your entire life creating roulette strategies and I will have the same odds as you if I bounce my chip off the dealer's forehead and see where it lands on the table. Your current bet is not effected in the slightest by any of your previous ones. The only difference in our two strategies is I only get to do mine once.

 

[Freejeff]

So if there is no strategie to overcome the house edge why is that almost every black jack player are playing basic strategie to reduce the house edge !

If not strategie work why do they all play basic strategie !

On the other hand why the basic strategie can reduce the house edge and betting systeme cannot ?

 

[Freejeff]

And why we cannot advocate any systeme that might work on this forum ?

So if I cannot advocate my systeme that I found ? Why people is ok to advocate card counting and flat betting ! Flat betting is a systeme . Card counting is a systeme !

Why people continue To advocate them when we all know counting card is being impossible by the fact they change the way they distribute card ? Shuffling machine and multi deck card in the shoe

Why people continue to advocate flat betting when we all know the house edge will make you lose some money slowly but surely !

In gambling community there is a some kind of conspiracies that supposed expert tell us progression don't word even if they advocate counting card that doesn't work no more ! And flat betting is the surely ways to lose your money slowly but surely !


Gambling is like speculation we are never sure of the outcome that's is why it s call gambling ! So no matter the way we played the game we never know the outcome ! The only thing we know for sure it the money we wager and how much we can afford !

My 2cent

 

[Freejeff]

It's like playing poker people bluff and if your good at it your might win. This is a strategie !

We all need some kind of strategie if we want to win even if we cannot predict the outcome !!

Unless we are becoming victims of the casino !!!

 

[skiny]

It's like playing poker people bluff and if your good at it your might win. This is a strategie !

We all need some kind of strategie if we want to win even if we cannot predict the outcome !!

Unless we are becoming victims of the casino !!!

When you figure out a way to bluff against a roulette wheel, you let me know.

"I was really betting on 14" doesn't work.

 

[Simmo!]

So if there is no strategie to overcome the house edge why is that almost every black jack player are playing basic strategie to reduce the house edge !

If not strategie work why do they all play basic strategie !

On the other hand why the basic strategie can reduce the house edge and betting systeme cannot ?

You said it yourself - to "reduce the house edge" - not to overcome it. IE: to lose more slowly. The reason communities are sceptical about systems is that the person touting the system is usually either trying to make people believe - falsely - that they stand a better chance of winning than losing or they are trying to make money from it. Or both

If anyone had a good system that made them money, why would they share it publically where the casinos could see it and stop it? Makes no sense.

 

[Freejeff]

So your telling that's if the strategie was so good people would not share it because they gonna be afraid that's casino might stop it !!!

Maybe your right ! So that's lead to think that somewere some people is having a systeme and we never gonna know because its kept secret !!!

My intension was not to convince anyone that this strategie work or not ! I just believe that maybe this would work ! For now it is far better than martingale !
And more winning than flat betting but a little more risky !

I test it in fun mode and doing good so far !

I know that's when it come to casino the house edge is there to stay !

But people that count the card can overcome the edge house so I believe that maybe I can find a way to beat the house by playing whit number ! I have try classic progression but they are far way to risky for the gain !
I found whit this one strategy that's the risk is greatly diminish ! So if the winning surpass the losse I will be head in the game !

So far so good I'm doing good ! I just hope it's gonna last !

The reason that I wanted to share it is to know if other people have the same result as me in testing it !!! In free mode !
I don't fear that casino will put a rules to block it unless they force us to flat betting by imposing a flat bet of 5$ or 15 $ or 100$ !

People would stop gambling if they do reduce the bet spread to much !
But whit there bonuses they already limit the ways we bet !
But we just refuse that bonuses and we can wager the ways we want

Again my intention was not to convience anyone's .The only reason that I share it is to know what people think of it after they have test it !!!
But if no one dare to take time to just try it then I will be alone in my taught and know if it work or not

I'd like too know if it work for other people as well

 

[Freejeff]

So your telling that's if the strategie was so good people would not share it because they gonna be afraid that's casino might stop it !!!

Maybe your right ! So that's lead to think that somewere some people is having a systeme and we never gonna know because its kept secret !!!

My intension was not to convince anyone that this strategie work or not ! I just believe that maybe this would work ! For now it is far better than martingale !
And more winning than flat betting but a little more risky !

I test it in fun mode and doing good so far !

I know that's when it come to casino the house edge is there to stay !

But people that count the card can overcome the edge house so I believe that maybe I can find a way to beat the house by playing whit number ! I have try classic progression but they are far way to risky for the gain !
I found whit this one strategy that's the risk is greatly diminish ! So if the winning surpass the losse I will be head in the game !

So far so good I'm doing good ! I just hope it's gonna last !

The reason that I wanted to share it is to know if other people have the same result as me in testing it !!! In free mode !
I don't fear that casino will put a rules to block it unless they force us to flat betting by imposing a flat bet of 5$ or 15 $ or 100$ !

People would stop gambling if they do reduce the bet spread to much !
But whit there bonuses they already limit the ways we bet !
But we just refuse that bonuses and we can wager the ways we want

Again my intention was not to convience anyone's .The only reason that I share it is to know what people think of it after they have test it !!!
But if know one dare to take time to just try it then I will be alone in my taught and know if it work or not

I'd like too know if it work for other people as well

 

[Freejeff]

This is a typical game ! I know many outcome will vary but for this is a typical session I'm way ahead! Some time it take me more time to achieve the win target !





The strategie. Flat betting
5$= lose = -5. 5$ = lose =-5$
10$ - lose = -15. 5$ lose = -10
15 $ win = o. 5$ win = -5$
10$ lose =. -10. 5$ lose = -10
15$ win =. + 5$. 5 win =. -5
2win out of tree
Go down 2level

5 $ lose = 0$. 5$lose = -10$
10$ lose -10. 5lose =. -15
15 win. =. +5$. 5$ win =-10$
10$ win = + 15. 5$ win --5$
5$lose = + 10 5$ lose -10
10 $ lose =0$. 5 lose = -15
15 win +15$. 5$ win =. -10
10$ win +25. 5.$ win =. -5
5$. X2 win +35. 5$ x2 win =+5$
5lose +30$ 5$lose =. 0
10$ win +40$. 5$ win =+5$
5$lose +35.$. 5$ lose. = 0$

9 hands lose and 8 hands win

If we were having a base bet of 10$ we have win 70$ and still be a 0$ whit flat bettin
If base unit of 20$ we ad 140 and still be at 0$ whit flat betting
If the bet unit was 100$ we had made 700$ and flat betting still at 0$

 

[Freejeff]

Typical game blackjack strategie

This is a more difficult game that last 44hand for about 15min

I almost lost the game but I kept playing and I finally win !
21 win and 24 lose ! Push just ignore !
Blackjack systeme--vs. flat betting

5$ win blackjack 7,5$ ---------5$ w =7.5
5$ lose. --------- 2.50$.-------5$ lost = 2.5$
10$ L. ---------- -12,50$.-----5$ lost. =-3,5
15$ win--------------7,50$-------5$ lost =2,50$
10$ lost ----------- -2,50$------5$ lost. =-2.5$
15$ lost------------- -17.5$------5$ lost = -7.5$
20$ lost ------------ -37,5$ ----5$ lost =. -12,5
25 lost ----------- -63,5$ ----5$ lost. = -17,5$
30$ win --------- -33,5 -----5$ win. =. -12,5$
25$ lost ---------- -57,5$------5$ lost=-17,5
30$ lost --------- -87,5 ------5$ lost = -22,5
35$ win -------- -52,5$ -----5$ win = -17,5$
30 wins ------ -22,5$ -----5$ wins = -12.5$
20$ lose ------- -42,5 ------5$ lose. = -17,50
25$ lose. ------ -67,5$-----5$ lose = -22,5$
30$ lose --------- -97,5$ ---5$ lose =-27,50
35$ win --------- -62,5$ --5$ win. = -22,5$
30$ wins ------- -32,5$---5$ wins =. -17,50
20$ $ lose ------ -52,5 ----5$ lose = -22,5
25$ lose --------- -77,5.---5$ lose. -27,5$
30$ lose ------- -107,5$----5$ lose. -32,5
35 win --------- -72,5$ ----5$ win = -27,5$
30$ win --- -42,5$. ------5$ win = -22,5
20x2 win -2,5 $----------5$x2 win= -12,5
5$ lose ---- -7,5$--------5$lose = -17,5$
10$ win----- + 2,5------5$ win = -12,5
5$ lose ------ -2,5 -----5$ lose =. -17,5
10$ lose ----- -12.5 -----5$ lose = -22,5$
15$ win ----- + 2,50$. ---5$ win = -17,5$
5$ blackjack. 10$ -------5$ bj. = -10$
5$ win. -----15$ -------5$win. = -5$
5$ x2. ------25$ -----5x2 win =. +5$
5$ lose. -----20$ -----5$ lose. = 0$
10$ win ----30$. ----5$ win. +5$
5$lose ---- 25$. ----5$ lose. =0$
10$ lose = 15$ ----- 5$ lose =-5$
15$ lose. =0$. ------5 lose = -10
20$ win = 20$ -----5$ win =. -5$
15$ lose. = 5$ -----5$ lose. -10
20 win. = 25$ -----5 win. = -5
10$ lose = 15$ ----5$ lose = -10$
15$ win = 30$ -----5 win =. -5$
5$ lose. = 25$ ----5 lose -10$
10 win. = 35$. 5$ win -5$
5$ win = 40$. 5$ win = 0$

Typical fight 21 wins and 24 lose
The house edge is still there but I'm a winner big time !

Hit and run the house edge can be beat !

So I think betting strategie is the key to win at casino even whit a house edge

 

[Andy Walker]

I am French so my English is not 100% correct so please be kind whit me tanks

I'm from Quebec City and I play black jack for 4 months and I really enjoy this new hobbie !

I discover black jack in highscool in party playing for fun whit friend !

Every time I played I win all the money from the dealer friend !

I was very lucky lol and enjoy it !

I receive not so long ago a email that's state we cam make 500$ a day playing few hour a day playing roulette !
It was a martingale and super martingale systeme !

I began to play for free and win all the time ! I was very exited and I play for real and lost 300$ in one night!

So I says too myself maybe they let us win in fun mode to lure us to play for real ?
After that I decide to play black jack and learn everything from Internet !

I play for 3 month in practice using super martingale whit a stop lost at level 6
It goes like this 1,3,7,15,35,75
In practice mode from ruby fortune I always win like 500 $ to 1000$ a days so I try for real whit a bankroll of 1000$ I made 250$ and lost my 1000$ tree days after

So I figure that playing for fun it's not like for reel what do you think

You are Canadian not French for a start I'd like someone to tell me different before a written apology?

Fun play must adhere to rules that real play does, I learnt this by asking here in the forums, hope this helps?