Pocketdiggers77
Gamester
- Joined
- May 9, 2006
- Location
- On Top of Old Smokey
Now Intertops has to actually give you a bonus. This will be a new concept for them too. They are so far behind with the casino world it is pathetic.
The Intertops sign-up used to have a 60xB wagering requirement for 1-play video poker and not count multi-hand video poker towards wagering. The terms in the first post make it sound like you can withdraw your cash balance (and winnings) at any point and forfeit the remaining bonus, making it sort of like a sticky bonus with 0x wagering if you play VP or other low weighted game. If this is the case, then I consider the change an improvement. However, the website still does not list the new bonus rules, so I am not sure the changes are in effect and am not sure of the details.In a way it's unfortunate that they switched to the "new" MG bonus system.
Instead of a 7x wagering requirement for video poker, it's now 300x.
I was thinking more along the lines of the ongoing bonuses (i.e. Fantasy Golf). These bonuses always had a 7x WR with all video pokers counting 100%. The question is, going forward, will these bonuses be placed in the bonus balance or in the cash balance? If they go into the bonus balance, then the 30x (or worse) WR applies. But for now, the T&C's still indicate a 7x WR which leads me to believe these bonuses will be deposited into the cash balance. They might be using the bonus balance for the signup bonus only, which is much different than the ongoing bonuses.The Intertops sign-up used to have a 60xB wagering requirement for 1-play video poker and not count multi-hand video poker towards wagering. The terms in the first post make it sound like you can withdraw your cash balance (and winnings) at any point and forfeit the remaining bonus, making it sort of like a sticky bonus with 0x wagering if you play VP or other low weighted game. If this is the case, then I consider the change an improvement. However, the website still does not list the new bonus rules, so I am not sure the changes are in effect and am not sure of the details.
Now Intertops has to actually give you a bonus. This will be a new concept for them too. They are so far behind with the casino world it is pathetic.
I am happy to report to Winbig:
They are looking over the "dictator" clause and I am pretty sure that
will be changing in the next week or 2 also.
Every casino has a similar clause, evenIntertops has requested our assistance with the dictator clause.
"The decision of the Casino regarding bonuses is final, and no correspondence will be entered into. "
The casino may, at their sole discretion, limit the eligibility of new players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without notice to the end users. No correspondence will be entered into.
Every casino has a similar clause, evenYou do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.(I added the emphasis):
There is a world of difference between limiting eligibility (i.e., not giving a bonus to certain people or only giving it to selected players) and confiscating bonuses and winnings. I have never heard of 32red doing the latter.Every casino has a similar clause, evenYou do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.(I added the emphasis):
The "no correspondence ...." part is a bit pointless. Most casinos will "correspond" with a player who has been experiencing problems, including not getting a bonus they thought they were entitled to. Reputable casinos will want to keep the player onside, and will tell them why the bonus was not credited. There are some that will even tell you to claim again, or tell you that you have missed a stage, such as having to wager your deposit 1x to trigger the crediting of the bonus.
This doesn't change the fact that the decision of the casino is final, but they want to ensure the player feels they were treated fairly, and were not excluded from a promotion purely at the whim of management.
Seasoned players will ALWAYS seek an explanation, and will escalate to a forum rep, and even to a body such as eCogra. They will also publish their grievance on the forums, which will also show how the casino handled the issue..
Intertops holds an interesting position of power. They are the only Microgaming casino that many US players can deposit at (those from the 11 states as well as those from other states where the standard MG banking system declines their debit card).
Intertops knows that they hold this exclusive power, and they use it to their advantage by being stingy with comps and bonuses. They have an "Aww, you lost your life savings last week? Too bad" attitude. (That's a hypothetical example.) And what are these players with limited options supposed to do if they don't like it, play somewhere else? Perhaps, but it won't be at another MG because they can't.
Many MG casinos will give random no-strings-attached bonuses based on a player's recent losses or bad luck, this in turn keeps the players coming back as opposed to running to the competition. But Intertops holds a monopoly for US players who prefer MG but cannot play anywhere else, therefore they have no need to show any generosity towards loyal players, because they have so little competition.
This next part may irritate some people since this a player forum and not an affiliate forum, but here goes: They advertise a 20% commission for affiliates, which is already below the industry standard. But on top of that, they actually only pay 16%, claiming that the other 4% is for "fees". Fortunately I never made anything with them and was able to pull the proverbial plug.
It really is quite the operation they have going on there.
I don't see that it matters how it reads if the end result is that the casino will do whatever it wants. Nicer, softer wording won't change the fact that the casino is in the drivers seat once we deposit. The only recourse we have as players is to boycott that site and let everyone know about it. This isn't Publishers Clearinghouse and the decision of the judges should not be final, but this is the state of the game these days. Really sad.
I got this email as well...
How do they consider this "new", when it's been in place at many other MG casinos for some time now?
I think I'll be spending my money at other MG's, due to this nice clause:
Sounds like a dictatorship to me. "What we say goes, and we won't listen to anything you have to say about it."
Where do casinos get the idea that it's okay to blatently ignore any intermediate discussion on disputes from the players? The casinos have so little sympathy with the player's sense of security.