Need math help with TS2 please

[everyday]

I got 5 wilds on TS2 yesterday & posted screenie on Screenshots...there seems to be some confusion as to how much my win should have been so I need some help with the calculation...My bet was $3 a spin and the paytable for 5 wilds is 1000...It's confusing because of the 243 ways...now my win for that spin was $830 which includes other winning lines on this spin..got some kings & aces on it...but I'm just trying to narrow down what the 5 wilds would pay alone...thanks

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

For the TS2 symbols alone I'm sure it should have been $3000,plus extra for the A's n K's you also got.

 

[The Viking]

The wild sympols alone pay $300 for a $3
if you were to get $3000 on this win and according to the paytable then you would get $300 just for 5 of a kind 9s and as you already know thats not happening

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

The wild sympols alone pay $300 for a $3
if you were to get $3000 on this win and according to the paytable then you would get $300 just for 5 of a kind 9s and as you already know thats not happening

Huh?

If you're playing @ 0.30c/0.30p a spin,and 5 wilds are 1000x bet 1000x0.30=$300,so obviously playing at $3 a spin is $300x10 coins ($3)=$3000.

 

[The Viking]

1000 x 0.10 x 0.30= 30 bux per min spin so 10x that $300
its 1000x the coin size not 1000x the bet size

 

[mattsgame]

Huh?

If you're playing @ 0.30c/0.30p a spin,and 5 wilds are 1000x bet 1000x0.30=$300,so obviously playing at $3 a spin is $300x10 coins ($3)=$3000.

It is 1,000 coins, not x bet. So at 30p/c 5 wilds is actually $10 (1,000 x 1c)

Edit: I see Viking beat me to it!

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

1000 x 0.10 x 0.30= 30 bux per min spin so 10x that $300
its 1000x the coin size not 1000x the bet size

Thought it would have paid more than that,almost doesn't seem worth betting $3 a spin.

 

[The Viking]

Thought it would have paid more than that,almost doesn't seem worth betting $3 a spin.

yep wilds alone unless in bonus round suck at TS11 because they dont connect to any high paying sympol so you only get 5 wilds with 9-10´s etc

unlike IR were you can get the highest paying sympol along with wilds across the screen so 5wilds there with the highest paying sympol betting $3 would pay about $4000 give or take few hundred

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

I cannot believe I have been playing this game for over a year believing it was x bet -,-

 

[KasinoKing]

I cannot believe I have been playing this game for over a year believing it was x bet -,-

These slots are very confusing because you're playing 243 lines, but it's like you're only PAYING for 30 lines.
(Because all bets are multiples of 30 coins).

KK

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

These slots are very confusing because you're playing 243 lines, but it's like you're only PAYING for 30 lines.
(Because all bets are multiples of 30 coins).

KK

What I'm finding confusing is the bet part,if I'm betting 30p a spin,for example and get three 9's I win 7p (I think) so I double the bet to 60p I would win 14p,so why is the bet irrelevant once I hit 5 wilds?

Apologies for my stupidness,this was a lot simpler when I thought I was correct lol.

 

[Zepher]

What I'm finding confusing is the bet part,if I'm betting 30p a spin,for example and get three 9's I win 7p (I think) so I double the bet to 60p I would win 14p,so why is the bet irrelevant once I hit 5 wilds?

Apologies for my stupidness,this was a lot simpler when I thought I was correct lol.

ALL Wins that you see on the paytable is a base rate which you then multiply by the number of coins that you were betting, so again, in this instance with 5 wilds alone paying 1000 coins per 1 coin played, that would be 1000 x the 30 coins he is playing ( $3 ) which is 30,000 coins, so $300.00.

Then you add all the other wins that you will have, because you have created a situation by having those 5 wilds where every other line will pay, so you end up getting paid on ALL 243 lines. That is the reason 5 wilds pays 'so little', because having 5 wilds then means you have hit a pay on every line which in turn makes it a monster hit.

Hope this helps..

 

[everyday]

Thank you everyone...I can understand it now

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

ALL Wins that you see on the paytable is a base rate which you then multiply by the number of coins that you were betting, so again, in this instance with 5 wilds alone paying 1000 coins per 1 coin played, that would be 1000 x the 30 coins he is playing ( $3 ) which is 30,000 coins, so $300.00.

Then you add all the other wins that you will have, because you have created a situation by having those 5 wilds where every other line will pay, so you end up getting paid on ALL 243 lines. That is the reason 5 wilds pays 'so little', because having 5 wilds then means you have hit a pay on every line which in turn makes it a monster hit.

Hope this helps..

Right I got it now-thanks for putting it in simpleton terms!!

 

[Seventh777]

ALL Wins that you see on the paytable is a base rate which you then multiply by the number of coins that you were betting, so again, in this instance with 5 wilds alone paying 1000 coins per 1 coin played, that would be 1000 x the 30 coins he is playing ( $3 ) which is 30,000 coins, so $300.00.

Then you add all the other wins that you will have, because you have created a situation by having those 5 wilds where every other line will pay, so you end up getting paid on ALL 243 lines. That is the reason 5 wilds pays 'so little', because having 5 wilds then means you have hit a pay on every line which in turn makes it a monster hit.

Hope this helps..

No it does not, the only time you will hit a 243 winning line hit is when you have stacked wilds on at least 4 reels, and any 3 symbols barring a scatter on the other reel, 5 reels of stacked wilds = a mandatory 243 winning lines of all jackpot wins, scenario - 1st reel is wild/jack/ten and 2nd is wild/queen/ace, how are combinations that start jack or ten then queen or ace (of which there are 4) a winning combination?.

Even though the base coin for TSII is .30p the coin value derivative on which wins are based is .001p, hope this clears things up .

 

[Seventh777]

I knew I had one somewhere, with reference to what a 243 win line hit looks like..............

X81 winning lines of cute blonde girl (Eowyn), x81 winning lines of ten`s, x81 winning lines of Jack`s, 81 x 3 = 243.





There are only two ways to achieve a 243 win line hit on TS2 the 1st is obviously Wild Storm the 2nd is the Loki Feature.

 

[LaHutti]

Even tho it's a very VERY nice hit, damn that first reel, eh ?

I knew I had one somewhere, with reference to what a 243 win line hit looks like..............

X81 winning lines of cute blonde girl (Eowyn), x81 winning lines of ten`s, x81 winning lines of Jack`s, 81 x 3 = 243.


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There are only two ways to achieve a 243 win line hit on TS2 the 1st is obviously Wild Storm the 2nd is the Loki Feature.

 

[Seventh777]

Even tho it's a very VERY nice hit, damn that first reel, eh ?

Indeed lol. Damn I miss that slot, unlike it`s balance devouring counterpart (the PJP version), many a times there would be a rainbow with pot of gold at the end of a gruelling session, or there wouldn`t, but, at least the original version provided that other option , my biggest ever slot return was playing LotR max bet at Purple Lounge (fancy that) just over £4.5k, now that hit had my jaw scrapping the floor for at least a minute .

 

[Tirilej]

Now I'm finally close to understand how I count those winnings. Thanks seventh
I had one huge win on the old LOTR. I miss it so much
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/winner-screenshots.4193/

Is this also 243 or how many?

 

[Seventh777]

Now I'm finally close to understand how I count those winnings. Thanks seventh
I had one huge win on the old LOTR. I miss it so much
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/winner-screenshots.4193/

Is this also 243 or how many?

Damn that`s a hit hun - My maths you have 162 lines of Kings, 72 Jackpot hits and 108 win lines of Aces - Kings = 3x2x3x3x3 = 162, Aces 2x3x3x3x2 = 108 winning lines, Jackpot hits 2x2x3x3x2 = 72 162+108+72 = 342 winning lines .

I would imagine that highest win only, comes into force on 99 of those win lines, somehow, checked and double checked, you theoretically have 342 winning combinations there, no doubting that.

 

[Tirilej]

Damn that`s a hit hun - My maths you have 162 lines of Kings, 72 Jackpot hits and 108 win lines of Aces - Kings = 3x2x3x3x3 = 162, Aces 2x3x3x3x2 = 108 winning lines, Jackpot hits 2x2x3x3x2 = 72 162+108+72 = 342 winning lines .

Okey, I can live with that

I see now you wrote that I had 99 too many. Now you got me really confused?

 

[Seventh777]

Found it.......



Sorry for the slight derail.

And yes, there must be a highest win only rule in place, imagine all wilds bar one = 3x3x3x3x2 = 162 winning lines, say the other symbol is an ace that`s 3x3x3x3x3 = 243 winning lines of aces 162 + 243 = 405 winning lines.

So in answer to your previous question hun, yes, not only did you hit a 243 combo, you decimated it .

 

[Seventh777]

Okey, I can live with that

I see now you wrote that I had 99 too many. Now you got me really confused?

Okay, Maths with Uncle Roy time, for this you will need a pencil, book, and bikini (so goddam hot in here ), there are no specific lines on a 243 winning lines slot, the win lines are worked out using a very easy calculus, which is thus, amount of slot spaces per reel = 3, amount of reels per slot = 5, so x3 spaces x 5 reels = 3x3x3x3x3 = 243, so a win line starts to build with each matching symbol per reel, this ofc will be multiplied by amounts of same symbol per reel in this case a wild, so three wilds = a base multiplier of 3, another 3 wilds = 3x3, so on and so forth, if however you have two wilds and an ace it is x3 aces or x2 wilds, hope this helps hun .

Bearing in mind you are Blonde i`m going to get your screenshot and break it down, so it`s much easier to understand hun give me a while.

 

[Tirilej]

Uncle Roy
That name suits you and from now on I will call you that
The bikini is on and I'm just have to try and find that stupid pencil somewhere...

 

[Seventh777]

Okay, what I have done here is replace wilds with kings as basically this is what is happening with wilds depicting any symbol, so here is what that spin would look like in laymen terms if the wilds were actually Kings (which theoretically they are), and how this part of the win is calculated using the times that symbol is present per reel calculus and the respective amount of win lines it produces............








Hope this explains it better hun .

 

[blonde]

I have my pencil ready and my camera to snap a shot of Uncle Roy in his speedo This is very confusing I can't wait to see the equation broke down.

 

[Seventh777]

Uncle Roy
That name suits you and from now on I will call you that
The bikini is on and I'm just have to try and find that stupid pencil somewhere...

Mmmmmmmmm forget the maths now tbh .

 

[Seventh777]

I have my pencil ready and my camera to snap a shot of Uncle Roy in his speedo This is very confusing I can't wait to see the equation broke down.

PMSL, and where was you Friday night?.

 

[blonde]

PMSL, and where was you Friday night?.

Aww, I know ss. I just recovered from the nasty flu. Where were you to nurse me back to health?

 

[Seventh777]

Damn, now I have two Blonde girls, help me here guys .

 

[Seventh777]

Aww, I know ss. I just recovered from the nasty flu. Where were you to nurse me back to health?

I did send you a huge transatlantic huggle I think it missed and landed on Cleveland though .

 

[blonde]

 

[Seventh777]

Current temperature, humidity here......

Current conditions on 25 July 2012 at 08:02 -
Temperature 20.1°C rising 4°C/hour
Wind 0mph S
Rainfall 0mm, 4 days without rain
Barometer 1013.9mb
Humidity 72%
Dew Point 14.9°C
Wind Chill 20.1°C
Heat Index 20.1°C
Cloud Height 700m
Air Density 1.197kg/m3
Solar Radiation 391W/m2
Sunshine Hours 01:38
UV Index 1.5 - Minimal
EvapoTranspiration 0.3mm
Soil Temperature 17.4°C
Soil Temperature 100mm depth 16.9°C
Grass Temperature 16.9°C
Indoor Temperature 23.6°C
Indoor Humidity 51%

 

[blonde]

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Ok I am too damn bored LOL. Guess I will watch some shows while I catch up on all the threads I have missed being gone.

 

[Seventh777]

Pressure 29.86 in Visibility10.0 miles CloudsClear -
Moisture
Humidity48%Rainfall0.00 in Snow Depth Not available.
METAR
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Don't speak METAR? Read our FAQ.
Weather Radio
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Temperature
Heat Index89 °F Dew Point 65 °F
Wind
Speed / Dir 15 mph from South Wind Gust 21 mph
Health
UV0 out of 16Pollen3.70 out of 12
Pollen Forecast Air QualityNot available.

It is only 8 in the morning here though, ooooops derail sowwy.

 

[Tirilej]

It is only 8 in the morning here though, ooooops derail sowwy.

Derailing, yes, huge derail
Does it matter, no not a bit. We all need a laugh and I loove it when you go crazy uncle

 

[Seventh777]

Derailing, yes, huge derail
Does it matter, no not a bit. We all need a laugh and I loove it when you go crazy uncle

Hehe love ya loads mwah, I think I may go open the bar up over in the attic .