More help for someone useless please

[Jono777]

Driver updating, almost there, fingers crossed otherwise Mr. Cool will become Mr. Rage

 

[goatwack]

See? I said this in my first post. Seems no one listens to me

tsk

guys? you still there??

 

[Jono777]

so..... after I THOUGHT I was almost there thanks to your help, I am now online (for now) with an old box unit tower I brought in 2011!

After the driver rollback/update - PC forced a restart and that was that, no more screen>>>pc communication.

I think it has to be the graphics card gone kaput now does it not????

Anyway this old unit is soooo slow and outdated, dunno how long it will last, just when I was crawling towards getting back on my feet, BOOM, something else comes along

I think the new graphics card is too expensive so if I disappear from CM for a while, you'll all know why

Edit: I think the exact style/name of graphics card is Nivea G-force (or something like that), it is named fully in my "time for a new PC thread" - Maybe someone can point me in the direction of a cheap one maybe?

 

[goatwack]

Oh my God.....we've bricked Jon's PC

So there's literally no display output anymore at all?

Graphics issues are a pain, I really think this is related. Only graphical problems I had were with my last laptop, at times games and slots were making it wheeze so hard it'd cut out altogether! In the end the thermal paste went, and when that happens it becomes like a knock-on effect sadly

 

[Jono777]

PC on, monitor on but no display. You can hear like a connect/disconnect type noise when I 'wiggle' the monitor cable PC end.

Monitor is fine with this old unit

It did it early on but I fluked it back on but it came in very low resolution, then after trying to fix that nothing at all.

 

[ternur]

So we need another new pc for Jon thread.

Your current setup is pretty old. Infact so old, I was not able to find the correct thread.

You could replace the graphics card fairly cheaply, but might be a good time to update the whole thing. Hardware is like beer, ages poorly.

Oh, that's a Nvidia card then. Nivea is something Goatwack uses daily to achieve enough elasticity for the corona memes thread to stay afloat.

 

[Jono777]

A new set up would be awesome.

However I've been financially struggling (compared to previous years) for about 12 month's now and am just getting back to my feet (an unexpected house move with 1K deposit and 1 month rent up front did not help matters )

This being the case, I will have to settle for just the graphics card (if that is what is causing the issue) - Are these usually plug n play please?

 

[asidea]

so..... after I THOUGHT I was almost there thanks to your help, I am now online (for now) with an old box unit tower I brought in 2011!

After the driver rollback/update - PC forced a restart and that was that, no more screen>>>pc communication.

I think it has to be the graphics card gone kaput now does it not????

Anyway this old unit is soooo slow and outdated, dunno how long it will last, just when I was crawling towards getting back on my feet, BOOM, something else comes along

I think the new graphics card is too expensive so if I disappear from CM for a while, you'll all know why

Edit: I think the exact style/name of graphics card is Nivea G-force (or something like that), it is named fully in my "time for a new PC thread" - Maybe someone can point me in the direction of a cheap one maybe?

1 Reboot in Safe Mode.
2 Uninstall the driver.
3 Disconnect from the internet and then restart the system.
4 In normal mode, install the new driver.

Trouble is i have no pc diagnostic tool..to check your graphics card, so can't help much.Reason why update was not successful was because your pc has conflicting software issues.You probably did not remove old traces of different versions software, thus your system is confused.

 

[ternur]

Are these usually plug n play please?

Yep, pretty straight forward. It's way more harder to open a bottle of beer without a bottle opener than to change a graphics card on a desktop pc.

 

[Jono777]

1 Reboot in Safe Mode.
2 Uninstall the driver.
3 Disconnect from the internet and then restart the system.
4 In normal mode, install the new driver.

Trouble is i have no pc diagnostic tool..to check your graphics card, so can't help much.Reason why update was not successful was because your pc has conflicting software issues.You probably did not remove old traces of different versions software, thus your system is confused.

Will give it a try, that's if I can see what I'm doing if it will display lol

Remind me please is it F11 as its starting to boot up to get the safe mode menu?

 

[asidea]

Will give it a try, that's if I can see what I'm doing if it will display lol

Remind me please is it F11 as its starting to boot up to get the safe mode menu?

F11 or Alt + F10 for recovery or reboot..this is for Windows 8 version.
Do you have a manual for your Windows 8? i worry you might do the wrong thing in haste.

 

[asidea]

In short, you must go to "Advanced options -> Startup Settings -> Restart". Then, press 4 or F4 on your keyboard to start in Safe Mode, press 5 or F5 to boot into "Safe Mode with Networking," or press 6 or F6 to go into "Safe Mode with Command Prompt.

Error Above thats for Windows 10, i'm getting confused lol.

Windows 8 or 8.1 also let you enable Safe Mode with just a few click or taps on its Start screen. Head to the Start screen and press and hold the SHIFT key on your keyboard. Then, while still holding SHIFT, click/tap the Power button and then the Restart option.

 

[Jono777]

F11 or Alt + F10 for recovery or reboot..this is for Windows 8 version.
Do you have a manual for your Windows 8? i worry you might do the wrong thing in haste.

No manual and no display, so I have to listen out for it booting up, drill the F11 and hope the disply shows the boot menu.

In short, you must go to "Advanced options -> Startup Settings -> Restart". Then, press 4 or F4 on your keyboard to start in Safe Mode, press 5 or F5 to boot into "Safe Mode with Networking," or press 6 or F6 to go into "Safe Mode with Command Prompt.

Sadly I cannot do any of these as the screen is black throughout start up and when PC is fully 'ready to go'

 

[asidea]

No manual and no display, so I have to listen out for it booting up, drill the F11 and hope the disply shows the boot menu.



Sadly I cannot do any of these as the screen is black throughout start up and when PC is fully 'ready to go'

If you cannot do a reboot have you got a startup disk to recover system or run a system diagnostic?If this is not available, then you need system recovery.

System recovery must always be the very last option, as it involves reformatting your disk and will erase all files, except for system files. I will not advised that yet till a diagnostic is run.

 

[Jono777]

I'm having a nightmare lol.

No discs, no manuals, no recover software.

I basically paid a guy who used to run his own PC business to do a build from scratch.

Chose the components with advice from members here and he brought it to my house all pre-loaded and ready to go.

Even been googling and PC world don't appear to offer the 'free' diagnostics that they used to do???

 

[asidea]

I'm having a nightmare lol.

No discs, no manuals, no recover software.

I basically paid a guy who used to run his own PC business to do a build from scratch.

Chose the components with advice from members here and he brought it to my house all pre-loaded and ready to go.

Even been googling and PC world don't appear to offer the 'free' diagnostics that they used to do???

I am gonna ask you if you can see cmd prompt in your black screen?i.e. - C:/

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- free diagnostic tool

 

[Jono777]

I am gonna ask you if you can see cmd prompt in your black screen?i.e. - C:/

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- free diagnostic tool

Nope, cannot see anything.

It is like the screen is receiving no signal at all from the PC

 

[asidea]

Then how come you can access the internet?Did you use your mobile?

 

[ternur]

Then how come you can access the internet?Did you use your mobile?

I am now online (for now) with an old box unit tower I brought in 2011!

^^^

 

[ternur]

Nope, cannot see anything.

It is like the screen is receiving no signal at all from the PC

Did you try the screen with your old pc (the one you're using now)?

Or is it just one screen, two boxes?

 

[asidea]

A screen that doesn't turn on may be a sign of a malfunctioning screen or a bad connection between the computer and the monitor. For desktop computers, trying another monitor or cable is a simple way to see if one or the other is at fault. Of course, if you're having this trouble with your laptop or all-in-one system, or if a bad video card is the problem, some disassembly may be required.

Windows users could be confronting a corrupted system file. In that case you might see a

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but nothing else on the screen. Another cause might be a problem with a display adapter. Basically, if the computer can't detect a monitor of some kind, the screen will remain black. In cases like these, when you can't even get the computer to launch, you may need to restart your computer and boot into recovery mode. To do this, you'll need to press F8 repeatedly as your computer boots up. An alternative is to use an external drive, such as a DVD or flash drive.

Also is your battery plugin?

 

[Jono777]

One screen

My primary PC it displays black screen, tower is working as all the keyboard and mouse lights are on and the fan is running.

Old PC (the 2011 one) is working with the same screen so its not the screen, speed is so slow, it reminds me of my ZX Spectrum days!

Despite my (VERY) limited knowledge and from your guys input I am 99% convinced its either

i) The video card Nivida thing-ma-bob
ii) The driver causing a problem
iii) The little black plug which allows the fittings to match on the monitor cable

*Apologies for the lack of technical jargon - also thanks for all the input today one and all!

 

[ternur]

One screen

My primary PC it displays black screen, tower is working as all the keyboard and mouse lights are on and the fan is running.

Old PC (the 2011 one) is working with the same screen so its not the screen, speed is so slow, it reminds me of my ZX Spectrum days!

Despite my (VERY) limited knowledge and from your guys input I am 99% convinced its either

i) The video card Nivida thing-ma-bob
ii) The driver causing a problem
iii) The little black plug which allows the fittings to match on the monitor cable

*Apologies for the lack of technical jargon - also thanks for all the input today one and all!

My bet would be the Nivea thingy. Or the driver.

Hard to tell since you can't access the damn thing with the monitor attached.

Problem solving (esp. hardware) is great, isn't it? I had a mysterious problem with my pc years ago and asked my super geeky friend to help out. He basicly separated every thing from the case and... left.

As it turned out, the broken component was the psu.

 

[ternur]

One screen

My primary PC it displays black screen, tower is working as all the keyboard and mouse lights are on and the fan is running.

Old PC (the 2011 one) is working with the same screen so its not the screen, speed is so slow, it reminds me of my ZX Spectrum days!

Despite my (VERY) limited knowledge and from your guys input I am 99% convinced its either

i) The video card Nivida thing-ma-bob
ii) The driver causing a problem
iii) The little black plug which allows the fittings to match on the monitor cable

*Apologies for the lack of technical jargon - also thanks for all the input today one and all!

Just one more thing.

Did you check if the display card is still properly in its slot? Maybe it loosened up when you were running around the house with the case?

 

[Jono777]

Just one more thing.

Did you check if the display card is still properly in its slot? Maybe it loosened up when you were running around the house with the case?

Yeah, I check that mate!

Just had to 'give in' and book it in for a diagnostic at a repair shop.

PRAYING it is not an expensive job as I'm a touch fiscally embarrased right now but really need it as I also work from home and my PC generates some of my regular income