ATTN: Casino Rep Monopoly Live - What is this game really?

eizei

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I've played the game for a few sessions and it's the most fun I've had gambling for a while and definitely my favorite live game. Lately I've been skipping playing slots just to solely play Monopoly. I've managed to have many long sessions with small deposits, much more so than playing slots while still having the potential for big wins. I like to bet on the number 2 and the rolls so that 2 pays out 1,5 times my total bet. This way hitting 2 twice gives me a free miss so to say. I've found betting on 10 to be too volatile and 1 & 5 to be less RTP than 2. Obviously there will be times when there's just a long streak of hitting 1s and 5s but if I feel like it's not going well I just like to take a break and return a bit later. Obviously I know it doesn't make a difference to the upcoming spins and I might just miss the next big rolls round but it helps me avoid tilting. The chat is sadly often extremely rude and in need of some moderation. Sometimes I have to avoid reading it to not have it slightly ruin my experience.

I think the talk about brakes, motors and riggedness is even dumber than the same conversations about slots. Once you've played the game for a while it's very easy to see the sector it's going to land on just by watching the speed of the wheel and I can't say that I see those variations some people mention. If they wanted to reduce the RTP to make more money they could just change a couple numbers on the wheel, tweak the chances to build houses in the bonus game or reduce a couple of the multipliers on the bonus board when designing the game. Implementing any of the conspiracy theories mentioned here or in the game chat would be a monumentally stupid business decision that I just can't see Evolution making, they just have no reason to.

There has however been some technical issues with the game that I've experienced myself as well and I hope they will be fixed soon. Last night the game had a round where everyone's bet was taken but the round didn't pay out nor did it return the bet. A bit later once the game came back there was a 2 rolls round that got stuck for a while, then paid the players but instantly removed the winnings from everyone's balance. I truly hope they'll be able to fix these issues and everyone gets paid out from those problematic rounds.
 

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The dice have to be somewhat controlled, if all outcomes are equally possible, from what I've seen this game could send a smaller casino bankrupt in minutes!

Foil hat moment, why do the presenters spin the wheel the way they do little spin, release, little spin, release and build up the speed in increments rather than just grab and spin.
 

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But @neilw - i hope that you as a Live games specialist, so to speak, with all your contacts in the field, could also take a look into this, and maybe get some figures from the past weeks, as in how many people play this, how many errors were reported etc.?

If you can find the time of course, and have the means:) In which case - thanks in advance...

Sure, I'll ask my contact at Evolution. I suspect he'll be restricted on what information he can give, I'll feedback what I can.

As an aside - The wheel is a mechanical device and although it's been designed to a high spec by TCS John Huxley, it will undoubtedly suffer from mechanical issues.

When I examined the original dream catcher wheel I can tell you that each of the number separators has a free moving collar over the pin, which runs smoothly either way, which is why you see the wheel fall back when momentum has stopped and the strop applies the final resistance.

I would imagine that the Strop must suffer from fatigue and become looser over time, so i'll find out how often they are changed. However as that looseness is consistent it should not have a material affect on the outcome of the game.
 

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So how do you get a bonus in this game? I see, you have to bet on the gold or grey thing all the way to the right?
 

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Hate this game the two times I played it I was booted out of the two rolls bonus with an error page then click back on and told to wait till bonus round is over thus losing my bonus that i would of won
 

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So how do you get a bonus in this game? I see, you have to bet on the gold or grey thing all the way to the right?

Indeed: but as you can see the majority of people reacting have had issues, as did i, so perhaps best be careful with your bets - it's much more painful losing 25,- then 20p :D

So far i am seeing a lot of confirmation on both the horrible chat/moderation, the less than desirable behaviour of in-game Live support, and technical errors, most annoyingly with bonusrounds..

Great game! Never in doubt... (been watching the Bandit too much lately i think:D)
 

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Odds of hitting chance then rolls is aprox 350-1 give or take. Of course this can still be a little crap. Just had 4x then 2 rolls which went for 28x. It is effectively a live slot machine in some way as you are generally looking for the "feature" rolls but can get a decent return on something like 10x chance on 10. I guess it can Chance twice? Does that multiply the multiplier?

Actually do not mind it to be honest. Most of the time it'll take your money (surprise) but does so at a far more leisurely pace than most slots these days. Odds for a chance at a chunky bonus is no worse than many slots.

Observations, as many, is just how rude people get after a run of 1's. Most I've ever said is "Comical" when a 2x chance was followed by a 1.
Wheel rigged? - Oh for gods sake why is EVERYTHING supposedly rigged!!?? It gets frustrating at times but the only observation of the wheel is that it stops quicker anti-clockwise than clockwise. As this is consistent don't see much of a problem.

And in case you are wondering, this is coming from someone who has not won a bean off the thing so far. Not played it much but no winning session so not coming at this from hitting a big win or anything.

Edit: I guess this is obvious for all on here but avoid 1 and 5 for crap RTP. I personally go for 2, 10 and rolls for what is around 95% overall.
 

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So I played it a bit but why would anyone bet on 2 5 or 10? You get almost nothing if it falls on those numbers or am I missing something? So why wouldn't people just bet only on those 2 and 4 bonus rolls?
 

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As for some questions posted:


@Siohmy Yes, the chance card multiplier is just like the good 'ole Rhino, so there is definitely insane potential when you hit more chance cards consecutively.
FYI i yell 'rigged!' when i get insane wins or crazy consecutive wins too:p All in jest on my part ofc.

@JohnSnow There are several strategies on this Game, you can bet every round, on just the rolls and/or whatever number, or wait and 'time' your bets, perhaps a bit bigger than you would when you want to bet each spin of the wheel. and if you like to go by odds or statistics, you could tell yourself hey, the 5 hasn't come in 50 spins, it's bound to fall soon, and bet bigger on that number. The 10x is guaranteed when it lands, whereas the rolls can pay as little as 0.5x bet. So, it's all down to how you're betting, and how much.

Don't forget that if you bet on the one, and it lands, you also get your bet back. So you can go for the law of the large numbers, if you know what i mean. In short there's a lot of ways to play this game and make a profit (with luck of course) and you can play with the variance, in the above way.


And just to add to my o.p.: i'm not exactly saying this game is rigged, but as i am not quite sure the wheel is 'purely physical' or 'Random', i want to find out what exactly i'm playing. It's a nifty crossover i.m.o.... Somewhere in between Roulette/Wheel of Chance and a Slot.

I thanked everyone for their participation, hope to see more: i really want to gather as much opinions as possible, so hope more people reading will add some of their '2cents' :D
 

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Read enough to say I will 99% never play this.

From what I've learnt, big hits which are common on DoA, IR, Bonanza, Novomatics etc etc would require the wheel to land as follows.

Chance, Chance, 4 Rolls, odds of this happening must be hundreds of thousands to one!

Hard enough to win on slots these days but think I will stick to them :p
 

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Read enough to say I will 99% never play this.

From what I've learnt, big hits which are common on DoA, IR, Bonanza, Novomatics etc etc would require the wheel to land as follows.

Chance, Chance, 4 Rolls, odds of this happening must be hundreds of thousands to one!

Hard enough to win on slots these days but think I will stick to them :p

not quite

39,366 to 1 :) Although thats not the true odds as your not guaranteed a multiplier on both chances? Not actually played it but the rules say chance is a multiplier or cash value.

Its a fun game to have a little dabble with but its a real shame that it don't contribute XP points or weekend booster at VS so like roulette no incentive to play it at VS ??? @Team.Videoslots
 
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Nothing to do with the fact that 7 is the most likely score with two dice then? ;)

It is amazing how many people think that because all the outcomes are evenly distributed on a 6 sided dice, then all 12 outcomes must have the same chance on 2 dice right? But of course it isn't.

Total Number of combinations Probability
2 1 2.78%
3 2 5.56%
4 3 8.33%
5 4 11.11%
6 5 13.89%
7 6 16.67%
8 5 13.89%
9 4 11.11%
10 3 8.33%
11 2 5.56%
12 1 2.78%
Total 36
 

Reelsoffun

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It is amazing how many people think that because all the outcomes are evenly distributed on a 6 sided dice, then all 12 outcomes must have the same chance on 2 dice right? But of course it isn't.

Total Number of combinations Probability
2 1 2.78%
3 2 5.56%
4 3 8.33%
5 4 11.11%
6 5 13.89%
7 6 16.67%
8 5 13.89%
9 4 11.11%
10 3 8.33%
11 2 5.56%
12 1 2.78%
Total 36



Eh? why have you quoted my response ? its like implying i was wrong, when i was quoting someone else and explaining that 7 IS the most common score with two dice which you have also confirmed. You might not have meant that but its how it felt when i read your reply.
 
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