Mega Moolah Passes 5 Million - But only at 32RED!

[Slotster!]

... Thanks to Casinomeister

"Weve been watching the Mega Moolah Jackpot, and it feels as though its never going to break the 5 million mark. We have decided, after winning Best Casino for 5 times in a row that 5 is our new favourite number (along with 32 that is!) and decided to top the jackpot up"

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Nice little promo... The extra 60k will come in handy when I hit the big one -- cheers!

 

[cheekymonkey]

Nice one, but if I actually won the 4.94m I don't think I would give a toss about the extra 60k - lol.

 

[Slotster!]

Nice one, but if I actually won the 4.94m I don't think I would give a toss about the extra 60k - lol.

Oh, I dunno... The 120 bottles of nice vintage would go down well at the celebration!

 

[cheekymonkey]

Oh, I dunno... The 120 bottles of nice vintage would go down well at the celebration!

Hehe.

Don't forget to enter EUROMILLIONS tonight - 95m up for grabs but with odds of 76,275,360 to 1 we may have a better chance of winning the Mega Moolah!

 

[winbig]

but with odds of 76,275,360 to 1 we may have a better chance of winning the Mega Moolah!

Or getting paid by many RTG's

 

[SlotsWizard]

Or getting paid by many RTG's

Or even Lucky Ace

 

[HUNTS!!!!!]

there obviously confident its gonna go over 5 mill b4 it goes

 

[Slotster!]

Hehe.

Don't forget to enter EUROMILLIONS tonight - 95m up for grabs but with odds of 76,275,360 to 1 we may have a better chance of winning the Mega Moolah!

No luck - I'll have to stick with the slots!!

 

[cheekymonkey]

No luck - I'll have to stick with the slots!!

Ditto! One number with 2 stars.

 

[gfkostas]

What are the odds to hit the jackpot on this slot?

 

[Slotster!]

What are the odds to hit the jackpot on this slot?

Hmmm... not sure. Maybe some helpful casino op might post up here? Surely that sort of info will be in the public domain. I'm going to take a wild guess at somewhere in the 5-6 million range.

Google was no help, but a search for "Mega Moolah odds" did scarily bring up this thread as the second result!! How quick/scary is that?! They're watching us!!!! Woooooooooo.....

 

[Mark]

Hi Guys

Just had a quick google and found this (I think the site belongs to KasinoKing):

The 'Jackpot Wheel' feature is on Mega Moolah is triggered completely at random - no matching symbols on the reels are required. The wheel spins & randomly stops on one of the four possible 'Jackpots'; from Mini to Mega = litterally Millions!

We are unable to give the odds of hitting the jackpot feature.

Not sure if this is correct, but sounds feasible.

 

[cheekymonkey]

I googled as well and cannot find the true odds however i stumbled across

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which looked pretty cool.

They give the odds and reel layouts for many MG slots.

Also, Mega Moolah stats are

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Has anyone heard of this site before?

 

[Zoozie]

Has anyone heard of this site before?

Nope, but the site seems to have the reels correct for the MG slots.

Interestingly it is exactly the same slots that were cracked here on casinomeister
in the probabilities thread and common for all these slots are that can be played in flash-mode(thunderstruck was done in hand though). There are no new slots cracked that was not cracked here on casinomeister. And cracking the reels was easy in flash mode. But they have not cracked the Hitman reels, though it can be played in flash and interestingly this is one of the only Kimms did not crack simple because it would be no use in terms of analyzing. (because of the random cash feature).

The site also correct explains how video-slots works with random reels. So far so good.
But then you open the 'strategy section'...

Here they claim they have been beating the slots for years without bonuses! So basically it comes down to being a scummy affiliate site luring slot players to lose money, so they can get their affiliate share.

Any other explanation, anyone?

 

[cheekymonkey]

Nope, but the site seems to have the reels correct for the MG slots.

Interestingly it is exactly the same slots that were cracked here on casinomeister
in the probabilities thread and common for all these slots are that can be played in flash-mode(thunderstruck was done in hand though). There are no new slots cracked that was not cracked here on casinomeister. And cracking the reels was easy in flash mode. But they have not cracked the Hitman reels, though it can be played in flash and interestingly this is one of the only Kimms did not crack simple because it would be no use in terms of analyzing. (because of the random cash feature).

The site also correct explains how video-slots works with random reels. So far so good.
But then you open the 'strategy section'...

Here they claim they have been beating the slots for years without bonuses! So basically it comes down to being a scummy affiliate site luring slot players to lose money, so they can get their affiliate share.

Any other explanation, anyone?

I know you and others did some hard work on cracking the reels last year and I thought this site may have copied some work from Casinomeister as well.

They also have links to CM, OCR, WOL, GAMBLING and KASINOKING down the bottom of their page.

Is it one of your mates KK?

Quite a nice little site though, especially the slot reel graphics.

 

[Mark]

On KK's site, he links to this calling it "his other site", hence the comment in my original post

 

[vinylweatherman]

Nope, but the site seems to have the reels correct for the MG slots.

Interestingly it is exactly the same slots that were cracked here on casinomeister
in the probabilities thread and common for all these slots are that can be played in flash-mode(thunderstruck was done in hand though). There are no new slots cracked that was not cracked here on casinomeister. And cracking the reels was easy in flash mode. But they have not cracked the Hitman reels, though it can be played in flash and interestingly this is one of the only Kimms did not crack simple because it would be no use in terms of analyzing. (because of the random cash feature).

The site also correct explains how video-slots works with random reels. So far so good.
But then you open the 'strategy section'...

Here they claim they have been beating the slots for years without bonuses! So basically it comes down to being a scummy affiliate site luring slot players to lose money, so they can get their affiliate share.

Any other explanation, anyone?

I don't think so

WITH Bonuses maybe, especially the higher percentage ones. I do not think that RANDOM slots at 95% can be beaten LONG TERM without the aid of bonuses, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, no carry over of WR when you bust out.

Good circumstancial evidence that they have simply used the reel-cracks from here and presented them. Did they give credit for those members that did the work?

 

[Zoozie]

Good circumstancial evidence that they have simply used the reel-cracks from here and presented them. Did they give credit for those members that did the work?

Yeah, I knew it was some kind of 'insider job'.

I do not mind they are using our results if it was non-profit of course. Also the site is very nicely made and does explain exactly how video slot works, so for information purposes I like it. Also it shows payout% for many slots including Rival slots.

But of course I am not happy they these scientific facts are then somehow mixed with the 'slot strategy'-page. In fact they are in complete contradiction with each other.

KK is a good guess yes, since he is an affiliate and also claim to can beat the slot odds without bonuses year after year.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Hmmm... not sure. Maybe some helpful casino op might post up here? Surely that sort of info will be in the public domain. I'm going to take a wild guess at somewhere in the 5-6 million range.

Google was no help, but a search for "Mega Moolah odds" did scarily bring up this thread as the second result!! How quick/scary is that?! They're watching us!!!! Woooooooooo.....

Mega Moolah will hit when the total exceeds the previous Cryptologic Internet record progressive paid the first time Millionaire's Club hit after the introduction of the 5 reel version.
After this, Mega Moolah will hit continualy at lower values, and will not again hold out for 5Million. This is exactly the pattern that has happened since Millionaire's Club first hit.
I think it was some 5.8 Million, so we have a while to wait with Mega Moolah

In order to counter any suspicion, they may again let it hit in South African Rand, as they did before, prior to a big hit in Dollars, or even UK Pounds


MG must realise that if their slot follows the same path as Millionaire's Club (holds off for first big monster record breaking hit, then hits regularly once record is broken), the rumour mill will start working overtime

2009 will see another casino launch an even bigger progressive that will build to an even greater first hit, give their software the world record, and then hit more regularly

 

[GrandMaster]

Yeah, I knew it was some kind of 'insider job'.

I do not mind they are using our results if it was non-profit of course. Also the site is very nicely made and does explain exactly how video slot works, so for information purposes I like it. Also it shows payout% for many slots including Rival slots.

But of course I am not happy they these scientific facts are then somehow mixed with the 'slot strategy'-page. In fact they are in complete contradiction with each other.

KK is a good guess yes, since he is an affiliate and also claim to can beat the slot odds without bonuses year after year.

An acknowledgment of the source would be nice. If it is indeed KK's site, I am sure he did not do the calculations himself.

 

[me_and_ed]

One question I have: Does anybody know if you have the same chances of winning the Jackpot if you are betting $1.25 as you do if you are maxing at $6.25? I know with Crypto's I think they bigger jackpots are weighted to the higher better.

 

[Slotster!]

One question I have: Does anybody know if you have the same chances of winning the Jackpot if you are betting $1.25 as you do if you are maxing at $6.25? I know with Crypto's I think they bigger jackpots are weighted to the higher better.

Don't quote me on this, but I think that you have more chance of actually hitting the wheel bonus the higher the bet -- but your chances of hitting the jackpot are the same once you actually get there.

Similar to the Crypto's like you say... Maybe a 1.25 spin gives you a 1/100 chance of initiating the wheel, whereas a 2.50 spin gives you 1/50 etc etc...

Or something.

 

[SlotsWizard]

Don't quote me on this, but I think that you have more chance of actually hitting the wheel bonus the higher the bet -- but your chances of hitting the jackpot are the same once you actually get there.

Similar to the Crypto's like you say... Maybe a 1.25 spin gives you a 1/100 chance of initiating the wheel, whereas a 2.50 spin gives you 1/50 etc etc...

Or something.

Yes I remember reading somewhere from the horse's mouth (it might even be in the help file for the game) that the bigger you bet, the better your chances of winning the jackpot.

As far as Slotbeaters.com, I do believe that is KK's site. I thought the name sounded familiar. If not, it's someone who has been patrolling this forum because the Harveys data looks awfully similar to the analysis I put together some time ago (and promulgated on this forum).

 

[winbig]

I really hope that it's KK's site.

Word for word:

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KK, if you're reading this and it is your site, you need to take one or the other down, or at least change the wording around. Duplicate content will kill you when it comes to SEO.


edit: no worries, both sites belong to KK (check his profile)

 

[bryand]

One question I have: Does anybody know if you have the same chances of winning the Jackpot if you are betting $1.25 as you do if you are maxing at $6.25? I know with Crypto's I think they bigger jackpots are weighted to the higher better.

FWIW, I hit the minor jackpot ($217) over the weekend playing $1.50 per spin at Casino US.

 

[me_and_ed]

FWIW, I hit the minor jackpot ($217) over the weekend playing $1.50 per spin at Casino US.

I have hit lots all at or under $1.25, hit the minor 3 times, even on a .50c bet, just wasnt sure if your odds changed of hitting the mega. Thanks to all who have answered.

 

[LOOKAWAY]

Hi this maybe a silly question but how does it help the player cracking the slots ie know the reel symbols. I am lost.

 

[GrandMaster]

You can calculate the theoretical return and the variance of the slot.

 

[LOOKAWAY]

>You can calculate the theoretical return and the variance of the slot.<

Ok so thats if you dont play slots right so you know.

So theres no advantage to slots play and winning.

 

[Zoozie]

Hi this maybe a silly question but how does it help the player cracking the slots ie know the reel symbols. I am lost.

Not silly, because it does not help at all. You can calculate payout% (and variance) etc., so it is only of theoretical interest.

Still many players believe I am able to beat the slots though I am an overall loser even though I only play with bonuses. I have had some funny mails from members demanding/threatening me to reveal my 'secret'.

 

[vinylweatherman]

>You can calculate the theoretical return and the variance of the slot.<

Ok so thats if you dont play slots right so you know.

So theres no advantage to slots play and winning.

The advantage is in knowing the quality of the game. If you can know that slot A returns 90% and slot B returns 96%, it makes slot B better value in the long term.
Any strategy with online casinos tends to involve promotions running alongside gameplay. Factoring in promotions can increase the long term payout, and where the maths shows the combined expected payout to me greater than 100%, the package becomes "+EV", a term seen on many bonus whoring sites to describe a good bonus.

This applies to slots, but does not, however, apply to "Fruit Machines" where the result of the current spin depends in some way on the spin(s) taken before, and/or player choices.

MG casinos offer an increasing number of "Fruit Machines", and these are certainly not "random" in the same sense as their slots, but seem to work on the "pot" principle of some UK Fruit Machines.

Last night, as an experiment in "fun mode", I successfully "forced" the new one "Treasure Ireland" into giving the feature "Treasure Ireland", which was the Jackpot, plus repeat chance of any win. I had more than a dozen repeats that gave a total well in excess of 1000x bet.
As I continued the "force", it became clear that the results of each feature game were influenced by my decision to turn down all wins except the top one in previous feature games, this is NOT RANDOM BEHAVIOUR.
What I do not know, is whether this is a "personal pot" that is built up on my account alone, or a "general pot" that builds from the gameplay of ALL players playing the game on the MG network.

Whatever way this operates, the game itself, at least the feature game, is NOT "random", and a number of Fruitie style methods and exploits spring to mind

 

[bryand]

I have hit lots all at or under $1.25, hit the minor 3 times, even on a .50c bet, just wasnt sure if your odds changed of hitting the mega. Thanks to all who have answered.

Again, FWIW.