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Hi Everyone just now I have contacted customer service reguarding a withdrawel that I have pending via wire transfer at this new casino, Jay the casino rep said that even though its on the casino and on the website that it is NOT AVAILABLE>>>>UNLESS i have one of the 4 web wallets they offer the will not grant my withdrawel...NO MONEY>> I will let you know how I go with this one..puppy
 
It seems the OPs complaint is less of the requirement of a web wallet and more of one concerning the fact that the casino seems to be advertising a means of withdrawal which is unavailable to them.

A web wallet may not be a particularly hard thing to get, but that isn't the point. If a casino states you can perform a wire transfer, then you would expect to be able to use this service. Otherwise there is always the risk that you could deposit money into a casino and then have no means to withdraw it.
 
But why do they put bank wire on their page if it cant be used? Just when they opened they didnt have neteller there and I asked in livechat about wire and they said that it would not be a problem. However a few hours later they changed the homepage and offered Neteller as a withdraw option..
never needed it though, my money was gone in 60 secounds heheheh!
 
A web wallet may not be a particularly hard thing to get, it.


neteller was HARD, i had to send in copys of all sort of things and to get my account extended to be able to withdraw they also had to call me from the states and with the timedifference it became a big hassel. However I do have it now and I am glad for that!
All in all the process took about 2 weeks or so... But I guess the OP can do it for the future atleast!
 
That is true, and along with their shoddy live chat service, they are far from appealing. But that is not the point. The casino should not be advertising something which it has no means to honour. And given the time and effort it would take to sign up with Neteller or similar, many would simply not bother withdrawing and would just play their balance down to nothing.
 
Never wanted any web wallets

I have always made sure before i deposited that wire transfer was a method of withdrawel..as I did in this case..I just wanted other players to be aware they wernt honouring what they were advertising!!!! Puppy
 
It seems the OPs complaint is less of the requirement of a web wallet and more of one concerning the fact that the casino seems to be advertising a means of withdrawal which is unavailable to them.

A web wallet may not be a particularly hard thing to get, but that isn't the point. If a casino states you can perform a wire transfer, then you would expect to be able to use this service. Otherwise there is always the risk that you could deposit money into a casino and then have no means to withdraw it.

offtopic but my thoughts EXACTLY,

thats the problem with nedplay i had, they cleary advertise on the main page visa, and from what i read and saw i gathered i could withdraw winnings back onto the card i deposited with...but guess what? i go to withdraw and theres 4 options, 1 is neteller,bank transfer (with 15 fees), money bookers and 1 is another e-wallet, no option for card withdraws

a lot of casinos need to sort out their terms because things like this are complete bullcrap, as you say, someone could play at a casino who doesnt have an e-wallet, they could be lead to believe they could cashout via their card, but then when it comes to cashing out they are unable to
 
Anyone else having issues here

I am now still having probkems here, still cannot get verification that i can use wire transfer for my cashout and every time I go into my casino account my withdrawel has been put back into my account..
Cannot get onto live chat at all, now have several unanswered emails and the phone line is just a busy signal ...persistance is the key here..lol...puppy
 
Hi Guys,

All the withdrawal methods on the website are available to our players and in regular use - the withdrawal methods available to each player will depend on where they live though. For example we cannot pay Wire Transfers to the US but we do support a range of eWallet services and direct ACH payments.

I hope this helps,
Tom
 
Hi Guys,

All the withdrawal methods on the website are available to our players and in regular use - the withdrawal methods available to each player will depend on where they live though. For example we cannot pay Wire Transfers to the US but we do support a range of eWallet services and direct ACH payments.

I hope this helps,
Tom

Thanks for clarifying that Tom. IMO ACH is just as good as wire transfer and very little difference in the two.
 
Hi Guys,

All the withdrawal methods on the website are available to our players and in regular use - the withdrawal methods available to each player will depend on where they live though. For example we cannot pay Wire Transfers to the US but we do support a range of eWallet services and direct ACH payments.

I hope this helps,
Tom

Puppydog is in AUSTRALIA though, and is complaining about not being able to get a wire transfer. What part of the USA is Australia in?

You can't expect players to know the special circumstances of your processor UNTIL YOU TELL THEM. If there is something unavailable because of a player's location, you should let them know BEFORE they make any deposits, NOT leave them with the prospect of having to kiss their money goodbye because they are unable to accept payment.

I don't see why casinos should be exempt from the advertising standards rules that apply to other businesses. If they advertise something, take the money, they must legally supply the advertised service, or refund the money. In any case, they would be referred (at least in the UK) to the advertising standards agency, who could ban their advertising, and maybe even impose a fine.

This industry wants to be respected as mainstream, but first it has to behave like it is. I am reading posts like this with increasing frequency, and it looks like the industry is slowly worsening in the manner in which its customers are treated, and the free market economy will exact a penalty for this, usually loss of those customers to the business providing the best range of services as perceived by those customers.
If the industry worsens too much, then governments may change their views, and friendly states such as the UK might start to think it had made an error of judgement in recognising and allowing mere "whitelisting" as a good enough criteria for full access to the UK market. The UK government could have done what is being suggested the USA does, which is to require any casino wanting to market in the UK to have a UK license, and pay a UK tax on action generated by UK players.
When the US passed UIGEA, several other countries decided the time was right to go for an outright ban, whereas before they took the view there was little they could do.

UK players, wherever the casino is regulated, are very likely to start complaining to the UK bodies that are there to protect consumers. Although these bodies can't really do anything, they CAN gather statistics, and pass these to polititians, who might baulk at the level of complaints, and their content, and perhaps think the industry far too unaccountable for their actions under the current regime.
 
Lucky red an absolute Joke..ty Weatherman

Tom from club world can you please im me (not sure how to do this), Weatherman your post is so true, I am trying to cash out at the moment from Lucky Red with one set of incompetence after another, wrong forms wrong info .. the whole thing is wrong...TOM PLEASE HELP...thanks puppy
 
LUCKY RED CASINO

I just read your post and am having a problem with them too. They said I would have to use e wallet or another of their withdrawal methods and that cost me $50.00 just to register with e wallet and they want $90.00 for the withdrawal and I have sent my documents 3 times and they say they can't read them. So I had a printer blow them up and now trying to get them to answer the phone to see if they received this latest fax.lol. I have never had so much trouble withdrawing. The man said they don't have wire transfers or bank drafts or the ACH at this casino.
 
Hi all, just to confirm that I have replied to Puppydog07's PM to me and hopefully we will have this resolved very soon.

I'll let puppydog update everyone when they are satisfied that everything has been sorted.

Cheers all.

Martyn :thumbsup:
 
Just keeps getting worse!!

Hi all, just to confirm that I have replied to Puppydog07's PM to me and hopefully we will have this resolved very soon.

I'll let puppydog update everyone when they are satisfied that everything has been sorted.

Cheers all.

Martyn :thumbsup:

Can I have a show of hands for those still trying to get paid here, Martyn did go to great efforts to TRY and get me paid UNFORTUNATELY HE AGAIN HAS BEEN LET DOWN BY THE PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE AT THIS CASINO.

When my transfer had not shown by this morning I contacted the international section of my bank and they went searching the said that it had hit there bank on the 7th of May but because the bsb number had not been correctly put on the transfer(this was given to customer service not once but in two seperate occasions) they were unable to put it where it was meant to go.
It was returned to them on the 7th..(its now the 12th) just when were they planning on telling me that yet again there incompetent(like i havn't already worked that out) SO LUCKYRED WHERE IS MY MONEY!!!

STILL AWAITING PAYMENT.....PUPPY
 
Finally Paid>>Thanks Martyn and Tom

Hi Everyone well eventually good things come to those who wait..and after quite a long one and huge amounts of frustration my thanks to Tom at Clubworld who went out of his way to get this sorted.

I have now been paid ..>>thanks again Tom and Martyn....
 
after quite a long one and huge amounts of frustration
For an established casino's sister site, this should NEVER have happened IMO. There has been too many issues that have been unacceptable in my book.

Glad to see you paid even if it took a few weeks....which is very, very good, for you but shows very, very bad, on the casinos part.

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LUCKY RED

The same thing happened to me and I was forced to sign up with ewallet express which charged me $90 to withdraw $900 and I still don't have it from them. Also had to give them $50.00 just to sign up that I will get back but have to pay them $5.00 to get that back. No other option was availabe to me at this casino. And yes half the time they don't answer the phone or LH. The good thing was the slots were loose. Just waiting to see if I ever get my money from e wallet now. They say 10 working days and they started the 10 over when I had the money from the casino sent there. So already about 2 weeks waiting. Also when I was trying to withdraw they did keep putting my money back in my account there.
 
Add me to the list too....still waiting on a cashin off a small free chip from another forum. Been getting every reason (excuse) to stall the payout. Very disappointing to play at a "reputable" place and get this hassle. Was going to deposit and play but not now.
 
and again this morning, cash-in put back in the account with no reason given...this place is terribly frustrating :mad:

Can you PM me your username please so that we can check into it?

Also, if your funds have been put straight back in it means there is an issue somewhere. Please can you check your email for a mail from our CS team or Cashier as if there is a problem with a cashout then you will be notified as to what the problem is. Remember to check your SPAM folder to just in case.

Can you also confirm that you have sent in the fax back form required as part of our security measures?

Thanks.
 
Finally recieved withdrawal but this has been one of the worst places to try to withdraw from.
I am not a newbie. I have been gambling online for probably 10 years now and have played and cashed in at many many casinos and various types of software. This has been no where near what I would expect from someplace that used to have such a great reputation (Clubworld).
The cashout was recieved, but of course, it was incorrect.
Shorted by $14 but am happy to finally have been paid.
Martyn - my account name is the same as here, fasth
Thanks for offering to help but really, I won't be back.
 
Hi fasth

I have reviewed your account and can see that you requested your withdrawal on Wednesday 13th and sent in your faxback forms on Saturday 16th but our cashier couldnt read them as they were too dark.

On Sunday 17th you resent the docs and the correct amount was cashed out for you on Monday 18th. (I double checked the amount you were paid and it is correct, please PM me the reason why you think you were paid short as I do not want to detail that aspect of your account in a public forum)

I realise that completing this verification procedure is a bit of a chore, however now your account is verified you will be able to withdraw from the casino much quicker.

Kind Regards
Tom
 
Hi Tom,

While I dont see any problems with the way you handled the withdrawal maybe you could disallow any withdrawals unless the player in question has filed a faxback form + sec. docs with you. That way, players will realise that they must send in their forms/docs immediately if they want their withdrawals to be processed. just my 2c.
 
Just to clarify, the same documents that were "unreadable" were used previously, about a month ago were sent into another RTG casino that I was a brand new player at. They did not find them "unreadable" and processed the cashin within 24 hours. No returning funds to account, no hassle, just a speedy withdrawal.
Is putting the cashin back with no notice or reason as to why acceptable?
Not to me.
The correspondence comes from CWC which has had all of my documents for quite some time now. They are the same processor so really not neccessary for the documents.
 
Can you PM me your username please so that we can check into it?

Also, if your funds have been put straight back in it means there is an issue somewhere. Please can you check your email for a mail from our CS team or Cashier as if there is a problem with a cashout then you will be notified as to what the problem is. Remember to check your SPAM folder to just in case.

Can you also confirm that you have sent in the fax back form required as part of our security measures?

Thanks.

Just to throw a wrench into the muck:

Why in the world do casinos (not just CWC/etc) put a player's money back into the account if there's an "issue" with a withdrawal, unless they tried to cash out before meeting the WR on a bonus (which most RTG software won't let you do, anyways?) Is it in more hope of the player getting even more frustrated and playing the money back? Why not just let the money sit in limbo while these "issues" are sorted out? The player (in general) requested a cashout, and this seems to me like a forced reverse withdrawal. Just because documents weren't approved doesn't give the casino the right to put the money back into a player's account, which will only lead to one of two things: The player getting pi**ed off and playing the money back, or at the very worst, the WD process having to be started from the beginning, once again.
 
Just to throw a wrench into the muck:

Why in the world do casinos (not just CWC/etc) put a player's money back into the account if there's an "issue" with a withdrawal, unless they tried to cash out before meeting the WR on a bonus (which most RTG software won't let you do, anyways?) Is it in more hope of the player getting even more frustrated and playing the money back? Why not just let the money sit in limbo while these "issues" are sorted out? The player (in general) requested a cashout, and this seems to me like a forced reverse withdrawal. Just because documents weren't approved doesn't give the casino the right to put the money back into a player's account, which will only lead to one of two things: The player getting pi**ed off and playing the money back, or at the very worst, the WD process having to be started from the beginning, once again.


I'm looking forward to hearing that answer as I had the same thing happen to me. Granted they were waiting on one more doc from me, and I did get stupid and played it back. I don't know who I was more po'd at, me for playing it or them for putting it out there. Needless to say I haven't been back and I won't be going back either.
 
While I dont see any problems with the way you handled the withdrawal maybe you could disallow any withdrawals unless the player in question has filed a faxback form + sec. docs with you. That way, players will realise that they must send in their forms/docs immediately if they want their withdrawals to be processed. just my 2c.

I don't like when casinos do that, I think it will give players more changes to play it back, it happened to me. I usually don't reverse but when money just sitting there, its hard to resist. Played back 1000 bucks + bonus :o
not at lucky red, another accredited.
 
I'm looking forward to hearing that answer as I had the same thing happen to me. Granted they were waiting on one more doc from me, and I did get stupid and played it back. I don't know who I was more po'd at, me for playing it or them for putting it out there. Needless to say I haven't been back and I won't be going back either.

$$'s were put back into my account due to doc waiting. I emailed them FAST requesting next step, cause Lawd knows my weakness, lol - they asked me to resubmit w/d & within minutes it was processed.
 
I'm not particularly impressed with Lucky Red (and by extension the Club World group).

I had a big win a few weeks ago and had to split my withdrawal into three chunks of $3000. The first installment was paid after 3 days, the second a further 9 days later, and i'm now on the 9th day since the second payment and have not yet received anything.

It seems their $3k per week rule is actually $3k per 9 or 10 days+.
 
I'm not particularly impressed with Lucky Red (and by extension the Club World group).

I had a big win a few weeks ago and had to split my withdrawal into three chunks of $3000. The first installment was paid after 3 days, the second a further 9 days later, and i'm now on the 9th day since the second payment and have not yet received anything.

It seems their $3k per week rule is actually $3k per 9 or 10 days+.

This is actually surprising to hear since this is the ClubWorld Group we are talking about here. Let us know how this all plays out liquuid_fusion.
 
I thought it was me because I wanted the money to go to an ewallet....$3000 initially and then the other $1600 7 days later. I've had casinos tell me it's the ewallets limit per week (their's, the casino's it all gets blurry when you ask) but it varys. One casino was 5K per week, one is 3K, and so on, so it leads one to believe they all go by a beat of a different drummer!:lolup:
 
I thought it was me because I wanted the money to go to an ewallet....$3000 initially and then the other $1600 7 days later. I've had casinos tell me it's the ewallets limit per week (their's, the casino's it all gets blurry when you ask) but it varys. One casino was 5K per week, one is 3K, and so on, so it leads one to believe they all go by a beat of a different drummer!:lolup:


Bullshine!!!

There may be a TRANSACTION limit, but all this means is that they have to split a bigger amount into smaller transactions.

My withdrawals from GoWild are paid in lumps of 2000, but THEIR limit is 10,000 per month (existing player). When I withdrew 3000, I received 2000 and 1000 a MINUTE APART! (and 27 minutes after requesting the W/D too).

Club World could easily do this, pay in increments of $3000 WITHOUT the need to have a 7 day wait.

I too was in the position of having a withdrawal at Club World span 3 weeks. I too had to give them a prod when the 7 days were up - this should NOT be the case, but it seems it IS, and is common practise.
I found the easiest thing to do was to request a series of 3 withdrawals of amounts of $3000 and under. The first time round I didn't, and played some more with the waiting funds. The second time is when I decided to just withdraw it all in slices, and wait.

Lucky Red should be no different, if they keep getting it wrong, then it is Club World as a group that is getting it wrong. They should be familiar with operating an RTG casino by now, so running 3 should be just as easy.

What might make things harder is if they have over promoted the new casino, and taken on too many new players than they can handle. Advertising 400% up to $4000 might cause this;) - especially when it is a "LIMITED offer", encouraging everybody who might be interested to all jump in at once.
 
I played there with a free chip and - OUCH - won a Random Jackpot. Unfortunately the maximum cashout was only 5 x bonus = 250. After sending in my documents and faxback form they paid me very fast. The CR were very friendly and helpful and all in all I have a good impression of Lucky Red Casino.


Cheers Balky
 
While back when they first opened they had offered me a free chip. I played it off and waited to see the response from other cm members about this casino before i deposited. Today i made my first deposit to play the new games.
During this time I get a pop up message call this number right away. And i do it was to verify who i was. That is all fine and dandy, now i get email messages saying i still have to send in my docs even though during phone conversation they stated no need to worry about this as club already has all my info.
I do not mind resending but the point is why issue a statement from the casino then verify this by phone only to ask me to send it off anyways.
So far slots seem tight hit a few nice hits will see how it goes.
 
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