Tips Leovegas gives out fake money to streamers Casinorobot Letsgiveitaspin

[Mr Wild]

I think LGIAS moved from videoslots for 2 reasons


2) When people signed up through him ALL the affiliate earnings he should have received instead went back to the players as extra payments . LGIAS requested this to happen when he started streaming for VS . Now he hasn't said this but I suspect he probably realised that he's giving away a ton of potential income like this but of course he can't backtrack on the deal so it's useful for him to start playing at a new site and this time don't make stupid deals like this Why shouldn't he receive afffiliate income like every other affiliate does ? Can't blame him for that

Are you sure about this one?

 

[BrianGhattas]

Does Hansons know that Kim has his own message board that he could have joined to air his views about his streams? Neither Kim or LeoVegas is going to answer you here. Real, fake he isn't harming anybody's bottom line here.

My only issue is that he allows too many minors to run amok on the chat. Half his audience are too young to gamble.

 

[interlog]

Are you sure about this one?

With respect - even if you were in the know it is not for you to share this here on this forum or elsewhere.

I have reported this post to Dan because I am not sure that Videoslots wants to be associated with spreading rumours about Kim.

 

[Skephan]

In my opinion streaming this is wrong. Most of the streamers are young people and not all of them are capable of adult decision making. He does talk about gambling problems and setting up limits but the point is is that he's also promoting it. Telling them how to subscribe and get bonusses. Some of his streamers say they have lost a lot of money overnight and even that their ''dad'' took control of their finances. It's more like winning souls and potential future players. But that's reality .. almost every casino has their own streamer nowadays.

It also creates a positive revolution of online gambling being a more serious way of playing. A lot of players are still sceptical and even me. How many times it happened that when you win verification takes extra long at some casino's but the moment you lose your ''profit'' you're instant verified. I mean it's all that bogus casino's try to come up with not to pay sometimes it makes me think ''why even bother''. I mean Leovegas for me was not positive. Bonusses not added accordingly, livecasino never worked after someone else typed the exact same nickname as me yet customer service is above average.

I think that casino's should be very open about everything and their streamers and ofcourse us players. The fact is I still get better customertreatment at my local casino than whatever online casino existing ! :notworthy

Letgiveitaspin for example could also educate about gambling addiction or how to read the terms and offers and make people ''casinowise''.


Gr Skiphhano

 

[interlog]

In my opinion streaming this is wrong. Most of the streamers are young people and not all of them are capable of adult decision making. He does talk about gambling problems and setting up limits but the point is is that he's also promoting it. Telling them how to subscribe and get bonusses. Some of his streamers say they have lost a lot of money overnight and even that their ''dad'' took control of their finances. It's more like winning souls and potential future players. But that's reality .. almost every casino has their own streamer nowadays.

It also creates a positive revolution of online gambling being a more serious way of playing. A lot of players are still sceptical and even me. How many times it happened that when you win verification takes extra long at some casino's but the moment you lose your ''profit'' you're instant verified. I mean it's all that bogus casino's try to come up with not to pay sometimes it makes me think ''why even bother''. I mean Leovegas for me was not positive. Bonusses not added accordingly, livecasino never worked after someone else typed the exact same nickname as me yet customer service is above average.

I think that casino's should be very open about everything and their streamers and ofcourse us players. The fact is I still get better customertreatment at my local casino than whatever online casino existing ! :notworthy

Letgiveitaspin for example could also educate about gambling addiction or how to read the terms and offers and make people ''casinowise''.


Gr Skiphhano

What a load of codswallop. All of them are over 18 years of age and old and wise enough to spend their money the way they see fit.

 

[Mr Wild]

With respect - even if you were in the know it is not for you to share this here on this forum or elsewhere.

I have reported this post to Dan because I am not sure that Videoslots wants to be associated with spreading rumours about Kim.

I'm not posting on behalf of Videoslots. This is my personal account. I must be able to have my personal views in life.

 

[mimi26]

What a load of codswallop. All of them are over 18 years of age and old and wise enough to spend their money the way they see fit.

Can you be sure of that?

 

[interlog]

I'm not posting on behalf of Videoslots. This is my personal account. I must be able to have my personal views in life.

Of course, and it is your choice. to share these views here on this forum.

But you are discussing some information that surely is not for all and sundry to know. It surely is between VS and Kim and nobody else. Full stop.

 

[Mr Wild]

Of course there are a lot of under 18 people on twitch. Nobody can be sure if they do watch casino twitchers or not. But that goes for TV ads as well. Just because ads are being broadcasts in the evenings dosent mean no kids will see it, I bet a lot of kids see the ads any ways, same goes for the casino twitchers.

 

[interlog]

Can you be sure of that?

Well you need to be over 18 to open up a casino account.

I am talking about genuine casino streamers here.

 

[SPOPPLE]

What I find strange right is that I played at LeoVegas for a bit, only got to like level 3. Then I had one week ish period where I deposited about £6-7000 and made a few withdrawals of a few grand then lost it again and only ever deposit there now once every month or two and small deposits like £20. Yet I am a higher level than Kim, who has been playing there for months and months heavily, so maybe there is some truth to this. I hope not as I dont really watch alot of streamers as I find it weird but I dont mind watching kims stream on youtube and just skipping to any big wins.

I just find it strange that a weekish of heavy gameplay for me got me to a higher level on Leovegas than someone (and it means fuck all anyway, one of the only casinos I have never had bonuses or cashback type stuff from, despite my heavy losses there) who "seems" to be depositing a few grand a week for months. Sure, I dont know how the level progression works on leovegas but I never do over £5 a spin and I played there for a weekish heavily, he regularly does over that so surely deposits must factor in quite alot into the leveling up in which case this may well be true then. I really dont see how he could afford to deposit as much as he does as he is literally just like me when he plays, just spunks any big wins back in and almost never withdraws any winnings.

 

[Mr Wild]

Of course, and it is your choice. to share these views here on this forum.

But you are discussing some information that surely is not for all and sundry to know. It surely is between VS and Kim and nobody else. Full stop.

You are of course right
However, my point was that Slotgrinder said I shouldnt post stuff I dont know about, which he was correct on. But then he posted stuff he didnt know about, it light my fire a bit .

 

[spintee]

What a load of codswallop. All of them are over 18 years of age and old and wise enough to spend their money the way they see fit.

Can you be sure of that?

Absolute not, Sorry log but I have been there when people have stated they rushed back from school to whath. Even if every one was older than 18 which there not than most do not act 18+

I am only sharing my views on this matter due to varies reasons including the underage part and encouragement

I think MrWild has every right to express hes feelings like the rest of us. All he said is that he heard things, He didnt say if it was 100% true

 

[interlog]

Absolute not, Sorry log but I have been there when people have stated they rushed back from school to whath. Even if every one was older than 18 which there not than most do not act 18+

I am only sharing my views on this matter due to varies reasons including the underage part and encouragement

I think MrWild has every right to express hes feelings like the rest of us. All he said is that he heard things, He didnt say if it was 100% true

Skephan said:

Most of the streamers are young people and not all of them are capable of adult decision making

I responded by saying that all of them are over 18 years. I am not talking about the viewers because I do know that not all of them are over 18 years of age and the way some of them sometimes behave they are definitely children or at least act like some.

 

[onkel]

Absolute not, Sorry log but I have been there when people have stated they rushed back from school to whath. Even if every one was older than 18 which there not than most do not act 18+

I am only sharing my views on this matter due to varies reasons including the underage part and encouragement

I think MrWild has every right to express hes feelings like the rest of us. All he said is that he heard things, He didnt say if it was 100% true

Ok so I could e.g say you are a rapist or whatever horrid as long as I excuse it by saying it's a rumour. I won't say if it's 100% true.

So stupid I'm lost for words

 

[spintee]

Skephan said:



I responded by saying that all of them are over 18 years. I am not talking about the viewers because I do know that not all of them are over 18 years of age and the way some of them sometimes behave they are definitely children or at least act like some.

Oh yes the streamers are 18+

But lol, Do you remember that young kid that looked about 12 ? He was 100% underage and I think it was Rizk he was streaming for Hes name is Tobiasnome98

 

[spintee]

Ok so I could e.g say you are a rapist or whatever horrid as long as I excuse it by saying it's a rumour. I won't say if it's 100% true.

So stupid I'm lost for words

I will not even answer that quote

 

[interlog]

Oh yes the streamers are 18+

But lol, Do you remember that young kid that looked about 12 ? He was 100% underage and I think it was Rizk he was streaming for Hes name is Tobiasnome98

Never heard of him!!

Just checked it on Twitch and I can't see any videos so I am guessing that his casino streaming career was very short lived.

 

[onkel]

I will not even answer that quote

You took offence because there's not one shred of truth to it? Perhaps that's what Im getting at.

You dont post stuff like MrWild did without anything to substantiate it with.

I do apologize about the extreme example though.

 

[Mr Wild]

You took offence because there's not one shred of truth to it? Perhaps that's what Im getting at.

You dont post stuff like MrWild did without anything to substantiate it with.

I do apologize about the extreme example though.

I find it strange you go on the attack on me, but not the person who started the thread?

I have already apologized for not being clearer on what I knew.

 

[onkel]

I find it strange you go on the attack on me, but not the person who started the thread?

I have already apologized for not being clearer on what I knew.

Well, you are clearly associated with Videoslots. Especially given your name. This makes it way worse on many levels.

Have a pretty good idea who OP is.

 

[Jono777]

I think the original queries could be solved this evening maybe.

Check out the 'Newest Members' notification on the forum home page

Irony, I think not!

 

[spintee]

Never heard of him!!

Just checked it on Twitch and I can't see any videos so I am guessing that his casino streaming career was very short lived.

It certainly was, He did get a few hours out if it.

 

[Mr Wild]

Well, you are clearly associated with Videoslots. Especially given your name. Have a pretty good idea who OP is.

So because you know the OP, his thread is ok?

 

[onkel]

So because you know the OP, his thread is ok?

Nope.

 

[SlotGrinder]

Regarding under 18s tbh most under 18s I know are much more interested in video games than casino gambling . Most of them are living on the odd £5s and £10s they get from their parents etc they just don't have the money to be interested in gambling and it's not visually exciting compared to the games they are used to playing

 

[Nicola]

Why I read 8 pages of this nonsense in the first place

I've known Kim (LGIAS) for a couple of years, spoken to him off his streams and have no doubt he is genuine. He receives very generous offers from many casinos - which for some might cause jealousy - but can understand the generosity because in the end the casino makes the money back from all the new sign-ups. With viewers of 500-1000 each stream (with a high percentage hard-core gamblers), what casino would say no to all that publicity?

I hope the moderators of CasinoMeister are monitoring very closely the IP addresses (and other unique identification data) of the posts in this thread + all the new sign-ups today as I have the strong suspicion that one or more people are using multiple accounts to make accusations.

 

[Bulzaih]

OP - before you go on about saying that Kim (LetsGiveItASpin) get's so called "fake money" from LeoVegas, can you provide some proof on this?
I have followed his stream for quite some time (+ 6 months) and he is willing to show his transaction history to show that it indeed is deposited money.

Unless you can put down some proof, please shut the F up and mind you own god damn business!

 

[colinsunderland]

OP - before you go on about saying that Kim (LetsGiveItASpin) get's so called "fake money" from LeoVegas, can you provide some proof on this?
I have followed his stream for quite some time (+ 6 months) and he is willing to show his transaction history to show that it indeed is deposited money.

Unless you can put down some proof, please shut the F up and mind you own god damn business!

That proves nothing. The OP also stated his login was something like [email protected] which would suggest deposits are coming from a leovegas account, so not sure what you think a transaction history would prove? Not that the OP has supplied the screenshot of this as he said he would. You also have a videoslots staff member stating Kim told them Leovegas had said they would refund any losses, again, transaction history wouldn't prove a thing. I'll deposit £1000 a day for the next 10 years and show you my transaction history as long as LV pay me back every week by bank transfer. Leovegas also have history for this.
Unless I've missed it, no comment from LV on this either. As they are aware of this thread I'm sure, you would think they would come in and deny it.

 

[colinsunderland]

I'm not posting on behalf of Videoslots. This is my personal account. I must be able to have my personal views in life.

Thats a strange attitude to take considering you posted what you heard in the office, therefore at Videoslots. If its a personal account and you are posting personal views then why mention stuff you heard at work?

 

[interlog]

That proves nothing. The OP also stated his login was something like [email protected] which would suggest deposits are coming from a leovegas account, so not sure what you think a transaction history would prove? Not that the OP has supplied the screenshot of this as he said he would. You also have a videoslots staff member stating Kim told them Leovegas had said they would refund any losses, again, transaction history wouldn't prove a thing. I'll deposit £1000 a day for the next 10 years and show you my transaction history as long as LV pay me back every week by bank transfer. Leovegas also have history for this.
Unless I've missed it, no comment from LV on this either. As they are aware of this thread I'm sure, you would think they would come in and deny it.

You're mixing Casinorobot and LetsGiveItASpin up. It was the former that was seen using the @leovegas.com email address. It wasn't Kim.

 

[colinsunderland]

You're mixing Casinorobot and LetsGiveItASpin up. It was the former that was seen using the @leovegas.com email address. It wasn't Kim.

you're right, I re-read the OP 3 times and got there eventually
Still, the point stands, transaction history proves nothing

 

[interlog]

you're right, I re-read the OP 3 times and got there eventually
Still, the point stands, transaction history proves nothing

It doesn't if deposits are refunded by other means. And that is the allegation made against Kim.

I personally highly doubt this being the case. Mr Wild is sort of back tracking.

Let's wait and see what Dan has to say (if he is going to respond of course). He acknowledged my PM.

 

[spintee]

You're mixing Casinorobot and LetsGiveItASpin up. It was the former that was seen using the @leovegas.com email address. It wasn't Kim.

The thing is if what stated is true about receiving the deposits back, Which at the minute we are all guessing here or alot are than what Colin is trying to say that transactions will not prove nothng, Let it be a test account or 100% genuine. As it would all look genuine but receiving deposits back at end of week / month.

Like I said I have nothing against any streamer but its the intent behind it if what they are doing is not for real, Nether take things at face value no matter how legit things seem.

He does make it look like its all fun and games, Having a drink with hes mates and having a laught, But look at the deeper side of gambling as its not all fun and games.

I got nothing wrong if thats how he likes to make hes cash, I made money far worser than that in the past.

Unless somebody has 100% proof than you will have haters and lovers, Just because somebodys been whaching him a few months and spoke to him in private does not make him legit, Just like it does not make him fake whan people think he is.

I think these debates are worth talking about. Not nice to point the finger unless 100% proof, But I think people opinions should be stated.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi guys,

Just to inform you all, Mr Wild is not an official representative for Videoslots. Letsgiveitaspin is a great guy and has always played with his own funds at Videoslots.We have nothing to do with what kind of deal he has with Leovegas and is nothing we will comment on. Have a great evening everyone.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[colinsunderland]

Hi guys,

Just to inform you all, Mr Wild is not an official representative for Videoslots. Letsgiveitaspin is a great guy and has always played with his own funds at Videoslots.We have nothing to do with what kind of deal he has with Leovegas and is nothing we will comment on. Have a great evening everyone.

Br,
Daniel.

Why does he make statements regarding your business then? This isn't the first time, he has done so in your thread in the past too, and you have never stopped him so presumably you are ok with it?

 

[colinsunderland]

The thing is if what stated is true about receiving the deposits back, Which at the minute we are all guessing here or alot are than what Colin is trying to say that transactions will not prove nothng, Let it be a test account or 100% genuine. As it would all look genuine but receiving deposits back at end of week / month.

Like I said I have nothing against any streamer but its the intent behind it if what they are doing is not for real, Nether take things at face value no matter how legit things seem.

He does make it look like its all fun and games, Having a drink with hes mates and having a laught, But look at the deeper side of gambling as its not all fun and games.

I got nothing wrong if thats how he likes to make hes cash, I made money far worser than that in the past.

Unless somebody has 100% proof than you will have haters and lovers, Just because somebodys been whaching him a few months and spoke to him in private does not make him legit, Just like it does not make him fake whan people think he is.

I think these debates are worth talking about. Not nice to point the finger unless 100% proof, But I think people opinions should be stated.

I haven't watched any stream, ever, but if they are affiliates they have to abide by the rules of the UKGC, from what people are saying on here I would say he sails extremely close to the wind, ultimately they are advertising a casino so should be following the same rules as everyone else. As I say though, thats only going from whats in this thread.

 

[Tirilej]

I haven't watched any stream, ever, but if they are affiliates they have to abide by the rules of the UKGC, from what people are saying on here I would say he sails extremely close to the wind, ultimately they are advertising a casino so should be following the same rules as everyone else. As I say though, thats only going from whats in this thread.

No he doesn't since he's Swedish. He needs to follow the rules set by the casino though.

 

[colinsunderland]

No he doesn't since he's Swedish. He needs to follow the rules set by the casino though.

he does if he is broadcasting to any UK customers. Videoslots (for example) aren't British, they have to comply with UKGC rules though.

 

[Tirilej]

he does if he is broadcasting to any UK customers. Videoslots (for example) aren't British, they have to comply with UKGC rules though.

I guess you know that some rules are just for you, so no they don't need to force all of their customers to follow ukgc standards.
You can watch things all over the world. I don't know where he is broadcasting but are you saying that if he hasn't blocked certain countries then he must follow all those countries laws? That's a tough one I suppose...

 

[colinsunderland]

I guess you know that some rules are just for you, so no they don't need to force all of their customers to follow ukgc standards.
You can watch things all over the world. I don't know where he is broadcasting but are you saying that if he hasn't blocked certain countries then he must follow all those countries laws? That's a tough one I suppose...

As I said, if he is an affiliate and is targeting UK customers, then he has to comply with the UK rules. I have no idea about other countries, I only target UK so only know the law relating to here.

 

[steinhaug]

Why the hell havn't I made a channel on Twitch years ago? I have been screenrecording 1000+ hours for reference videos all by myself with 0 viewers and I could infact become a celebrity instead!

DAMN! Great post!

 

[slotmaster]

Whew glad I went with my feeling and waited to stream. Mind you my other feeling came true and having problems with car, phone, and work in the last 3 hours alone. . I hate my life. .... ...

 

[suchfun]

What I find strange right is that I played at LeoVegas for a bit, only got to like level 3. Then I had one week ish period where I deposited about £6-7000 and made a few withdrawals of a few grand then lost it again and only ever deposit there now once every month or two and small deposits like £20. Yet I am a higher level than Kim, who has been playing there for months and months heavily, so maybe there is some truth to this. I hope not as I dont really watch alot of streamers as I find it weird but I dont mind watching kims stream on youtube and just skipping to any big wins.

I just find it strange that a weekish of heavy gameplay for me got me to a higher level on Leovegas than someone (and it means fuck all anyway, one of the only casinos I have never had bonuses or cashback type stuff from, despite my heavy losses there) who "seems" to be depositing a few grand a week for months. Sure, I dont know how the level progression works on leovegas but I never do over £5 a spin and I played there for a weekish heavily, he regularly does over that so surely deposits must factor in quite alot into the leveling up in which case this may well be true then. I really dont see how he could afford to deposit as much as he does as he is literally just like me when he plays, just spunks any big wins back in and almost never withdraws any winnings.

Seems telling in its own right,nothing would surprise me nowdays

 

[SlotGrinder]

IF you are playing with a deposit bonus then perhaps you don't level up ? I'm not sure. Kim spins pretty slowly anyway

 

[Deeplay]

TBH it dont bother me either way as I think watching streamers is boring and crap! And when ever I see a video on YT etc by a streamer and see the run time i skip on by. If they give a recording of big hit thats fine. but to sit there and watch some one spin away for hours aint for me. As for the UKGC they aint gonna do crap if it was found out a streamer was not using there own funds. Especially if that person aint in the uk. They have neither resources or the time.

Think this is a none story.

 

[Jd666]

TBH it dont bother me either way as I think watching streamers is boring and crap! And when ever I see a video on YT etc by a streamer and see the run time i skip on by. If they give a recording of big hit thats fine. but to sit there and watch some one spin away for hours aint for me. As for the UKGC they aint gonna do crap if it was found out a streamer was not using there own funds. Especially if that person aint in the uk. They have neither resources or the time.

Think this is a none story.

Same here.
I dont mind watching the best bits on youtube, whether it be online, UK Fruities or land based casino's.
But not the boring bits.
I get bored watching my own boring bits when im playing.
Still not getting why someone registers just to make this thread.
Sour grapes me thinks

 

[BrianGhattas]

IF you are playing with a deposit bonus then perhaps you don't level up ? I'm not sure. Kim spins pretty slowly anyway

Yeah, Kim constantly is playing his bonus funds and the VIP bar doesn't fill in that case so you are right. Much of his streams see him clearing that bonus and he does it quite often.

 

[brianmon]

Much of his streams see him clearing that bonus and he does it quite often.

But if he IS playing with greatly reduced WR (as has been mentioned), while encouraging people to sign-up to a bonus with full WR

Then that in it's self is misleading, whether it's fake money or not

 

[Jasminebed]

Letsgiveitaspin is a member here. And he was generous to share a prize with barbara (sorry not looking for the number now).

Surely I can't be the only one to ever get a 100% cashback deal at a casino? But it's always been with wagering and a max cashout. For a couple of years I took one weekly at Club Gold (not to be confused with the current Club Gold). Always had something to look forward to on Mondays, even if it was with wagering and 2x cashout.

Our esteemed HarryBKK got some bonuses while doing the Videoslots marathon. Some members even posted the casino should be covering his losses. Like twitch except much slower, and he's not an affiliate.

As for MrWild, rumours are just that. I value his input here, I hope he keeps his job.

And it's not unknown for someone to exaggerate what someone else is offering while in negotiations. Or a 100% cashback with wagering. Got a few with BetAt back in the day. In fact, some fallout for calling it Risk Free, since you just won a bonus equal to your deposit.

It would make no sense at all for Leovegas to give 100% of losses back with no restrictions, not if LGIAS can win on them. So I have my doubts that's what they do.

And it wouldn't make much sense for Kim to stream without either some level of profit, or at least mitigating losses.

Mind you, there's lots of us play without any kind or profit at all.