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Expired Promo L&L Europe Unlucky Leaderboard Promo

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nikantw said:
I always play as requested and had enough play to win March leaderboard from the results confirmed on the leaderboard covering March 1st.
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nikantw44.07%299

that one? So you made one deposit on the 1st of the month and did just over the minimum spins for the month? Thats your normal play style? As I seem to remember you taking part most weeks?
 
Kroffe said:
Just the other day it seemed people thought one week was enough for monthly, and rules were fine.
If no rule has been broken i dont see why Nikan would be excluded.

Majority of weeklys&monthlys are won by people altering their play/playing to win the comp.
How is this different?
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are they? where did you get that information?
 
colinsunderland said:
I've never noticed anyone say that!
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All one have to do is look at the leaderboards.

Why do you think people nominate casinos for the weekly?
You think they keep playing at the nominated casino if they get bad rtp with their first deposit?
Should they have to?
You seem to think Nikan does not qualify because of low amount of spins&deposits.
So he should be forced to play more to increase his rtp, when the goal of the comp is to have low rtp?

Either both of those examples are wrong, or none of them are.
If i am allowed to nominate a casino for the weekly and avoid playing there after an initial deposit giving me a bad rtp&low spin-count, why should it not be allowed for the monthly.
 
Kroffe said:
All one have to do is look at the leaderboards.

Why do you think people nominate casinos for the weekly?
You think they keep playing at the nominated casino if they get bad rtp with their first deposit?
Should they have to?
You seem to think Nikan does not qualify because of low amount of spins&deposits.
So he should be forced to play more to increase his rtp, when the goal of the comp is to have low rtp?

Either both of those examples are wrong, or none of them are.
If i am allowed to nominate a casino for the weekly and avoid playing there after an initial deposit giving me a bad rtp&low spin-count, why should it not be allowed for the monthly.
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I didn't say anything of the sort, if thats someones normal play style before the comp started then no problem.
For the monthly all spins at all L&L casinos are counted, not just the nominated ones for the weekly comp.
It was made clear at the start the goal of the comp is to reward someone playing as normal if they have a bad run, not as you suggest to get the lowest RTP. I guarantee I could win every month if that were the case. If some players are attempting to manipulate the results as you suggest, then thats pretty low, as its other members they are taking prizes from.
 
colinsunderland said:
I didn't say anything of the sort, if thats someones normal play style before the comp started then no problem.
For the monthly all spins at all L&L casinos are counted, not just the nominated ones for the weekly comp.
It was made clear at the start the goal of the comp is to reward someone playing as normal if they have a bad run, not as you suggest to get the lowest RTP. I guarantee I could win every month if that were the case. If some players are attempting to manipulate the results as you suggest, then thats pretty low, as its other members they are taking prizes from.
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Exactly, point of the comp was to reward people having a bad run at l&l sites.
But im allowed to nominate Funcasino for a week, make a deposit, get bad rtp and stop play there.
After that i go to hypercasino and get 100 000x on Doa2, and i also win the weekly because of how unlucky ive been that week.

Does not make much sense, does it?
 
L&L-Jan said:
CMRTPSPINSNotes
chriskay
16.67%​
13​
NDQ
irish-ranger
63.45%​
1631​
£250
danofthewibble
69.38%​
1073​
£100
ESCJAMIE
73.75%​
3224​
£50
ternur
74.73%​
928​
jumboshrimp
78.95%​
6443​
dave1888
83.36%​
2653​
bamberfishcake
89.57%​
1666​
johnnymcc1966
89.78%​
2969​
geordiecolin
91.75%​
6873​
colinsunderland
92.76%​
12287​
Supababe
93.55%​
14480​
nate
93.56%​
16406​
Kroffe
101.40%​
35389​
luckyscouser45
101.60%​
18908​
Scott1baird
107.85%​
1222​
dave1888
108.49%​
9529​
lotusch
117.70%​
1247​
curremon
125.12%​
556​
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Cheers mate £200 withdrew 2 hrs pending and hit my bank this after noon that’s quicker than sky Vegas as I wouldn’t see money to after the weekend..
 
irish-ranger said:
Cheers mate £200 withdrew 2 hrs pending and hit my bank this after noon that’s quicker than sky Vegas as I wouldn’t see money to after the weekend..
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Some reason SV only have visa direct on Barclays, not my main account; RBS

Anywho; I’m missing as well but after my 30000x Bonanza hit I don’t have much hope
 
Kroffe said:
Exactly, point of the comp was to reward people having a bad run at l&l sites.
But im allowed to nominate Funcasino for a week, make a deposit, get bad rtp and stop play there.
After that i go to hypercasino and get 100 000x on Doa2, and i also win the weekly because of how unlucky ive been that week.

Does not make much sense, does it?
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But you can't manipulate it like that, what if you got the 100000x on fun casino? Or get 80% RTP, you cant add a casino and try again.
 
colinsunderland said:
But you can't manipulate it like that, what if you got the 100000x on fun casino? Or get 80% RTP, you cant add a casino and try again.
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Just play a high volatile slot, and you have a decent chance for either crap rtp or a nice win.
Crap rtp means you win weekly = win
Nice win means you get a nice win = win

My point is, if using the rules to ones advantage is allowed for the weekly, it should be allowed for the monthly.
 
Kroffe said:
Just play a high volatile slot, and you have a decent chance for either crap rtp or a nice win.
Crap rtp means you win weekly = win
Nice win means you get a nice win = win

My point is, if using the rules to ones advantage is allowed for the weekly, it should be allowed for the monthly.
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Well yes, but you would hope Jan would notice that type of gameplay and disqualify them. I play a lot of single line rounds on book slots, but also play a lot at full line. If I deposit on Monday and play 100 x 10p spins on lady lucky charm deluxe 6, one line active, and get an RTP of most likely around 10%, I would fully expect to be told I don't qualify as my gameplay had changed enough to be clear I did it to win the weekly competition. I wouldn't do that though as I'm not a twat.
Just like, if I usually deposit 10 times a month, then do once in May, play like that, I wouldn't expect to win the monthly.
 
colinsunderland said:
On subject of payments, my Mastercard withdrawals have been coming through in minutes after processed in the past few weeks, so they must be working the same as the faster payments some visa providers offer now.
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Mine have not.

I think Mastercard charge a bigger fee than Visa for faster withdrawals, hence the difference. Mastercard have usually been more expensive for the merchants.

@L&L-Jan Has the process been quickened for L&L?

Regarding Nikantw being excluded from the comp, if that is the case, i think its a bit harsh personally and i back Kroffe 110% when he says it is clear in this thread more than one person has manipulated the comp to try and win.

I still say Jans house so his call for rules but when i say manipulating i mean anything from selecting casinos to changing style of play and Nikantw is not the only culprit, just maybe a bit better at doing it.

Rules are set, whats been broken?

Its too grey for anybody else to start being judge and jury of their peers.
 
colinsunderland said:
Well yes, but you would hope Jan would notice that type of gameplay and disqualify them. I play a lot of single line rounds on book slots, but also play a lot at full line. If I deposit on Monday and play 100 x 10p spins on lady lucky charm deluxe 6, one line active, and get an RTP of most likely around 10%, I would fully expect to be told I don't qualify as my gameplay had changed enough to be clear I did it to win the weekly competition. I wouldn't do that though as I'm not a twat.
Just like, if I usually deposit 10 times a month, then do once in May, play like that, I wouldn't expect to win the monthly.
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You dont really have to take it that far to win im guessing.
Slots like napoleon, captain venture, or like you said ladys lucky charm will often shred your balance even when playing all lines.
So you can have 30-40% rtp over 200ish spins without changing what games you play.
 
bamberfishcake said:
Mine have not.

I think Mastercard charge a bigger fee than Visa for faster withdrawals, hence the difference. Mastercard have usually been more expensive for the merchants.

@L&L-Jan Has the process been quickened for L&L?

Regarding Nikantw being excluded from the comp, if that is the case, i think its a bit harsh personally and i back Kroffe 110% when he says it is clear in this thread more than one person has manipulated the comp to try and win.

I still say Jans house so his call for rules but when i say manipulating i mean anything from selecting casinos to changing style of play and Nikantw is not the only culprit, just maybe a bit better at doing it.

Rules are set, whats been broken?

Its too grey for anybody else to start being judge and jury of their peers.
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Well the fact is, he wasn't in the prizes so either Jan missed him or excluded him. He hasn't broken any set rules, unless the gameplay is obviously unusual, but I think its a bit off someone makes one deposit on the first, and doesn't play a spin after that, hense my previous suggestions that qualifying for the monthly should include a term that you have to qualify for 3 weekly ones, to stop any attempted abuse, and to allow that sometimes people are skint and can't deposit every week. I also haven't suggested he shouldn't be allowed to win, just that I personally think its against the spirit of the competition.

Mastercard have been instant for me everywhere the past few weeks, L&L, PaddyPower, Coral so theres definately been a change as it was 2-3 days. I use Revolut, who do you use?
 
colinsunderland said:
Well the fact is, he wasn't in the prizes so either Jan missed him or excluded him. He hasn't broken any set rules, unless the gameplay is obviously unusual, but I think its a bit off someone makes one deposit on the first, and doesn't play a spin after that, hense my previous suggestions that qualifying for the monthly should include a term that you have to qualify for 3 weekly ones, to stop any attempted abuse, and to allow that sometimes people are skint and can't deposit every week. I also haven't suggested he shouldn't be allowed to win, just that I personally think its against the spirit of the competition.

Mastercard have been instant for me everywhere the past few weeks, L&L, PaddyPower, Coral so theres definately been a change as it was 2-3 days. I use Revolut, who do you use?
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Yeah, but that was my point with the nominate a caisno example.
Only reason to do that is to have a shot at the comp, and the numbers for the weekly wont be a true reflection of how lucky or unlucky you have been at the l&l sites.
You may be up several thousand overall for the week on l&l sites, and still win the weekly.

I dont really have a dog in this fight, since there would have to be some pretty crazy rulechanges for me to have a shot at the monthly.
I just think the rules should be applied the same for all, and if going against the spirit of the comp is ok for the weekly, it should be for the monthly aswell.
 
colinsunderland said:
I use Revolut, who do you use?
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pinnit2014 said:
I was having instant MC withdrawals last year
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Im clearly doing something wrong and dont know as much as i think.

I go straight card payments unless i use Trustly, everywhere. Revolut id never heard of and never knew you could get a mastercard debit instant withdrawal. :)
 
bamberfishcake said:
Im clearly doing something wrong and dont know as much as i think.

I go straight card payments unless i use Trustly, everywhere. Revolut id never heard of and never knew you could get a mastercard debit instant withdrawal. :)
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Was weird though as I’d some sites tell me I couldn’t WD back to MasterCard, others instant?

First noticed it when I got 1500 or so playing Bonanza (true story), approved, checked credit card and available balance was updated already. In fact that’s why I continued to use the MC on those sites as their debit card still took a few days
 
greylady said:
Gamblers are fickle creatures!

Poor Jan has another weekend off (assuming he is) to come back to squabbling - which is exactly why I don't get involved in these types of comps.
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Hai.

I personally have little patience to 'optimise' my play these days. I play when and how I like it. But some players always seem to play with an ulterior motive. And others pick on that. Either correctly or not.

Anyway, this is a nice promo from L&L. I hope it'll stay that way. I just feel we shouldn't take so much time on scrutinising other players style of playing.
 
bamberfishcake said:
I still say Jans house so his call for rules but when i say manipulating i mean anything from selecting casinos to changing style of play and Nikantw is not the only culprit, just maybe a bit better at doing it.
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Not looking to start this off again today, seriously. We all have differing opinions and i am ok with that.

But, I have to quote my previous post and correct myself as it gives the wrong impression about Nikantw.

I named Nikantw as a 'culprit' which was the wrong choice of words and a little insulting because there is no evidence, as far as i can see, of breaking any rules.

Nikantw has always been at the lower end of the RTP which can only be due to the style of play or choice of games.

The point i was trying to make, rather unsuccessfully, was that i could not see any rules were broken or any style of play changed and if Nikantw was culpable then so were more.

Not that i thought Nikantw had actually done anything wrong which is what the word 'culprit' sums up.

Sorry Nikantw.
 
bamberfishcake said:
Not looking to start this off again today, seriously. We all have differing opinions and i am ok with that.

But, I have to quote my previous post and correct myself as it gives the wrong impression about Nikantw.

I named Nikantw as a 'culprit' which was the wrong choice of words and a little insulting because there is no evidence, as far as i can see, of breaking any rules.

Nikantw has always been at the lower end of the RTP which can only be due to the style of play or choice of games.

The point i was trying to make, rather unsuccessfully, was that i could not see any rules were broken or any style of play changed and if Nikantw was culpable then so were more.

Not that i thought Nikantw had actually done anything wrong which is what the word 'culprit' sums up.

Sorry Nikantw.
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You only needed to name Nikan 5 times to qualify for the Candyman tournament :p
 
Kroffe said:
Just the other day it seemed people thought one week was enough for monthly, and rules were fine.
If no rule has been broken i dont see why Nikan would be excluded.

Majority of weeklys&monthlys are won by people altering their play/playing to win the comp.
How is this different?
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Not us Hahahaha we always like thousands and thousands of spins per week lol
 
pinnit2014 said:
Some reason SV only have visa direct on Barclays, not my main account; RBS

Anywho; I’m missing as well but after my 30000x Bonanza hit I don’t have much hope
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I have rbs and Halifax the rbs it’s within half an hour is your card older it’s mostly with the newer rbs cards Halifax is same
Day providing the withdrawls
Processed before 12pm
 
It's a distributed denial-of-service attack, where bots will flood the server with requests, causing it to overload and fail. Simple ones you just disallow access to the IP address range, but if its more intelligent by using third party computers by way of malware or viruses, or other methods of spoofing the IP, then it makes it a bit more difficult.
It seems strange its on a day when certain providers are all having problems too. Could be a mass attack on gambling sites, however, it must be a very specific attack to allow the site to work, just not the login section.
 
colinsunderland said:
It's a distributed denial-of-service attack, where bots will flood the server with requests, causing it to overload and fail. Simple ones you just disallow access to the IP address range, but if its more intelligent by using third party computers by way of malware or viruses, or other methods of spoofing the IP, then it makes it a bit more difficult.
It seems strange its on a day when certain providers are all having problems too. Could be a mass attack on gambling sites, however, it must be a very specific attack to allow the site to work, just not the login section.
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That’s what I meant to say lol
 
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