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This games is BTG's first with 'Player Select' where you choose from Puma or Lion mode in the base game.
Each has their own specific wilds and these wilds get increasing multipliers in the free games in both modes.
Not a bad game at all, a bit different from recent editions.
Ahem, cough, the demo slot had a bug whereby the auto-play in Puma mode seized up the game, couldn't get it back, still can't as it's frozen. They know about it, just didn't tell me so a good job I did the Lion mode first.What happened to the end of the video lol, showed one bonus then you started on the second type of game and the video just ends
See @Big Time Gaming are using a streamer to promote this who is breaking UKGC rules on age gating his videos on youtube, and is streaming live on youtube in the morning.
Is that really acceptable for a company like yourselves Nick? Or is it the new owners who don't give a fuck about rules?
Well thats a good question, I haven't read slots providers licenses so I genuinely don't know.Couple of members just discussing about how legit the industry is because of all the regulations.
Where does this kind of thing sit in terms of consequences?
What happens if this gets back to the regulators? Fine or slap on the wrist? Am I correct in thinking BTG and Evolutions liability is null because the responsibility lies with the streamer?
Assuming you are he of the Hideous channel, then a couple of small points:I don't think this is an issue Colin. Not only am I not actively targeting the UK (I'm playing in Euros and my site is Geo-targeted - we are not looking specifically for traffic from any one region), but there will be no Casino branding or logos shown in tomorrows stream. Furthermore, there won't be any links even to my own site. It's just a stream to show off the game itself, not to actively promote a Casino or even my own affiliate site.
Nick and BigTimeGaming are committed to responsible gambling, as I am myself. There is a desire for this content from the YouTube audience, and if it fails to be provided by legitimate streamers such as myself, then its place will be filled by those who are prepared to play with fake money and ferry people through Black Market unregulated Casinos. I have no wish for my content to be presented to an immature audience, and it is an unfortunate consequence of the Youtube algorithm that age-gating the content effectively removes it from the platform. I'm sure @dunover will attest to this. I'm sure your intentions are very honourable, but I'm actually working at the sharp end of it all and I see the real world alternatives and consequences. If you have actively consumed my content and believe it to be targeting children in any way, then please contact me privately and I'll endeavour to make changes to counter this.
Yes, I state in the description 'preview' or 'demo preview' and make it clear to viewers (so they are sure I am not claiming to be playing real when it's demo) that the video is informational and doesn't include gambling, I do the same for news videos too. I play real in Pounds of course, but the demos are usually in Euro or Dollar denoms.You should all be age gating. Hideous should be age gating. Casinogrounds should be age gating. Daskelelele have uk offers so they should be age gating. everyone should be. But that includes @dunover too.
"For that reason alone I would not jeopardise my business by knowingly breaching codes right now."
You've got 4 videos on your YouTube channel in the past 2 weeks that aren't age gated. You did have 5, because i checked last night. but now this morning it is age gated. Probably so you could belittle other people out for not doing what you do.
One of your videos that isn't age gated states in the description "For UK/Can/NZ/Euro Casino bonuses" with a link to your site. You mentioned UK because you're targeting them. You play in pounds. You make a lot of emphasis on "real money content" above, but as far as I'm aware there is no distinction for advertising standards, because viewers cannot make a distinction, and as far as I can tell your content is real money content.
"The gambling rules apply to marketing communications for “play for money” gambling products and marketing communications for “play for free” gambling products that offer the chance to win a prize or explicitly or implicitly direct the Advertising Guidance 5 consumer to a “play for money” gambling product, whether on-shore or offshore."
Editing this in, doesn't seem the ASA make a difference between real money or demo play if your still advertising or promoting a game.
keep their mouths shut about other people.
Wow seems to be so far off topic soooo king of cats megaways any good? Only at Leo I see
That would be the easiest way I agree. Any video content regarding gambling should be automatically age-gated. Then again, in some jurisdictions the age is 18, some 21, so it would be hard to keep all markets happy. Technically, according to regional or local regs, reviewing 18+ films would have to be age-gated, same with any videos showing drinking or alcohol-related. It would be impossible for YT which has no borders as such to adhere to every market's rules regarding many subjects.Imo it doesnt really matter what the rules say.
Gambling content should be age gated, why would you want people not being able to gamble to watch it in the first place.
Even if you are technically allowed to not age gate, it would be such a bottomfeeder move to not do it imo.
I mean wtf, 'technically im allowed to show this content to kids, so i will' what the hell kind of thinking is that.
Or ' i would lose money if i restricted this content so kids cant watch it'
Boo-freaking-hoo, sometimes not being scum will make you less money, learn to live with it, or accept that people will call you out for being scum.
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No, you're right so just to make it clear to the uninitiated I have added 'Preview' to the title, in case people think I was playing the game for real before it was released.Infectious 5 ways isn't out yet. Theres nothing in the description of that screenshot saying preview or demo. I stopped watching streamers long ago. Even the relatable ones sell out eventually.
If you cared about exposing children to gambling content enough to call other people out, you'd not expose them to any wether its demo or real. At least most of the scumbags doing fake money €100 spins keep their mouths shut about other people.
I agree it can be hard to make everyone happy, but setting the age-gate on gambling videos to 18 would imo atleast be the correct decision morally. But morals go out the window really qucik when there are a couple extra bucks to be made. Its like a freaking limbo contest where people are trying to outdo each other in how low they can set the bar.That would be the easiest way I agree. Any video content regarding gambling should be automatically age-gated. Then again, in some jurisdictions the age is 18, some 21, so it would be hard to keep all markets happy. Technically, according to regional or local regs, reviewing 18+ films would have to be age-gated, same with any videos showing drinking or alcohol-related. It would be impossible for YT which has no borders as such to adhere to every market's rules regarding many subjects.
Remember, the LCCP rules were originally aimed at STREAMING content which Twitch could not regulate with age-gating, whereas streaming on YT could be. I also make sure not to promote, link or show imagery from any casino branding on my channel so aside from my own sites, I am not even advertising a specific gambling product.
Or any honey left?I agree it can be hard to make everyone happy, but setting the age-gate on gambling videos to 18 would imo atleast be the correct decision morally. But morals go out the window really qucik when there are a couple extra bucks to be made. Its like a freaking limbo contest where people are trying to outdo each other in how low they can set the bar.
When i say its a shitty move to allow gambling content for kids, im not really talking about 18-20 year olds (even tho as you say the restriction may be 21 in some places)
I just think that trying to justify it with ' its technically allowed ' is setting the bar really really low.
But some people dont mind being really really low, but then they should be ok with being called that imo.
Cant have the cake and eat it, ive tried, and you always end up without any cake left.
I was more thinking out of a 'what do i consider ok' point of view.Or any honey left?
Yes, I see your point, but would not numerous movies then have to 18+because like many James Bond films for example, they have gambling scenes within them? Casinomeister itself would have to be barred from viewers under 18 being able to access it, as would every other gambling forum or website. Remember it's not exposure to gambling content per se which is regulated but the marketing of gambling products. So streaming and other content that has the purpose of advertising or marketing specific gambling businesses or products does fall under the rules. Whereas you, the pope or joe bloggs are perfectly free like any member of the public to film and upload your personal gambling exploits whether online or land-based with voluntary age-gating. As it stands. Until YT or social media start requiring proof of age and ID from all their users, they'll never be able to enforce anything themselves.
I see your drawing skills have improved since our last convo?I was more thinking out of a 'what do i consider ok' point of view.
Like you say, with CM, movies, etc where does one draw the line for things like age gating.
But for affiliates its alot easier imo, since they make a personal choice if they are ok with advertising it to kids or not, and behave accordingly.
Do they feel that the extra money made by not having age-gate on the videos is worth more than not showing it to kids is, then thats what they will do.
Its not like affiliates are forced to advertise to children just because its allowed, its all personal choice.
There are alot of things that are technically legal, but still makes you a dick for doing them.
Everybody has to make their own mind up where they want to be on the dick-scale.
Of course everybody has their own opinion on how the dick-scale looks, but me personally, i would place advertising gambling to kids at the very bottom of it, we are talking balls-level dickery here.
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Edit: I never run out of honey. Thats a rookie mistake.
I think I found the phantom phallus artist who used to target the walls and blackboards in my old school.I see your drawing skills have improved since our last convo?
Good to see you've mastered scale as part of this. Though i must take some credit for suggesting using tracing paper.