K8 Crypto Casinos accepting UK Players without a license?

[pinnit2014]

To give a bit of balance - yes, as long as you accept the risk of fake games etc, no recourse etc, then choosing to play at some of these places can be a judgement.

When we talk of recourse, how good is licensing when the likes of L and L/Casumo come asking for SOW? Not a lot - they do what they want and a shiny Licence badge means little as the UKGC don't care

Personally i've played offshore to the tune of 12k withdrawals and not had any issues (bar one but that was my own doing) - will that change? Possibly/maybe....but as long as i realise that i shouldn't cry about it, then so be it. I mean we talk about about choice and autonomy here so if you dance with the devil, then so be it

But the devil also comes with a legitimate licence fee ;-)

 

[bamberfishcake]

I'll be swimming into crypto waters soon. Not all are dodgy, and even though there is a safety net with the UKGC, they don't handle complaints, and casinos are still dragging their heels and doing all they can to avoid paying, making legitimate winners wait months for money or frustrating them to the point they give up claiming.

 

[pinnit2014]

Played in them for a good 6 months and not really many complaints - played at 2 mainly after a lot of good stories about them. IMO, as you said, a lot are dodgy, no doubt, but a good handful or more aren't - look at 1XBet legitimising themselves with sponsorship of Barcelona.

I've had more concerns over a Casumo w/d than a Crypto

The environment in the UK is so dire you can now see the scales tipping towards the take a chance franchise - can't blame them

But as Goat said, don't come a crying when/if they do

 

[Deeplay]

Many play dont know Many T/C before even they make deposit to Crypto, first 95% of Crypto Wallet dont like ppl use there wallet for Gambling ( they can close your account if they find out and lose all the money you have on wallet), Another Rules Wallet they have they will report you to Tax Office if you spend over £3500/£4000 per year, every wallet charger from 3% to 6% before even making deposit on Crypto Casino, You need to have good VPN will cost you from £60 up to £120 (most of free VPN dont open all games). Crypto Casino they got min withdraw like £100/ £200 if you do smaller Withdraw you get charger, Playing on Bitcoin on crypto casino is the worst think you can do, your balance can go down coz of value of Bitcoin (never go up lol) If you win big is high risk they want pay you and you got 0 protection, Bonus offer are high they say 40x but you end up doing wagering 120x or more, I played on Stake many time they close 3 of my account using VPN coz they ask for ID, but they never block my withdraw only deposit got block, I also Played on Winz casino lol they find out I was playing from UK they did paid my balance of $1k and close my account

VPN incorrect - I have accessed certain cryptos using opera which has built in Free Vpn. All games playable (can be a bit slow at times) also free version of Proton.

As for the "tax office" your figures quoted on this are totally incorrect - please quote source for this ?

The wallet I have used has very low fees. Had issue with verifying account but that was fixed without SOW (no one can SOW me as I will never ever provide such information ) and with a very limited amount of data I gave through a secure method.

Never 1 issue on any of the cryptos I have played at.

But I do my own due diligence and fully understand if something did go wrong - zero I could do about it.

A much better experience than anything the UK can now offer. And have cashed out a number of times on rake back at certain offshores.

Your right on volatility of cryptos but thats part of the risk. When I do play again as currently only playing 3dice ... it will be offshore - will be crypto with a VPN and I do not anticipate any issues but am always prepared for them if they come along.

 

[Guntis]

I don't play in crypto casinos and never thought about starting. I simply go to real casinos and play there. But what drives me nuts with UKGC online casinos is that despite following the same rules set by the licensor, most of them have different internal rules and requirements.

For example, recently (while being drunk) I signed with one shitty casino site from Progress Play (don't remember its name now) and deposited 1K, and played Book of Dead for a bit at £6, 8, 10. Then switched to Chaos Crew and hit over 400x bonus at £10 and requested 4.3K cashout. So, to pay out my winnings they asked me to provide an ID photo, a bank statement showing my income, and a photo of me holding my passport next to my face with preferably both hands visible.

For the next 3 days I did not provide them with anything, just wanted to see if they ask me about a thing, and I felt like shit and pissed off because of them asking me for stupid pictures.

Well..., then I had to get my GF to take the picture, and then i got paid after 2 days.

A similar thing was with Slotsmagic, but they did not ask me for a selfie with ID, however, they held the winnings till i provided them with a picture showing my PayPal acc, then a bank statement showing the money going to PayPal and my ID.

Some UK casinos only allow you to play after the KYC is done, and some don't give 2fuck...they allow you to play and they pay out winnings, and you only get KYC if you start dropping quite a bit of money in. Some can start blocking your deposits after some time, for me it was usually after i lost between 2-4K.

But at the same time, some do not block your deposits and simply let you lose.

With the top UK bookies, these things are different. You can easily sign up and if you win you get your winnings with no BS attached.

I don't get why these others are trying to be different.

 

[pinnit2014]

Progress Play's a good example imo of a UK casino who, if being generous, straddle the line of being dodgy for some. To the other half, they're as ropey as an Island casino.

 

[justdoit]

VPN incorrect - I have accessed certain cryptos using opera which has built in Free Vpn. All games playable (can be a bit slow at times) also free version of Proton.

As for the "tax office" your figures quoted on this are totally incorrect - please quote source for this ?

The wallet I have used has very low fees. Had issue with verifying account but that was fixed without SOW (no one can SOW me as I will never ever provide such information ) and with a very limited amount of data I gave through a secure method.

Never 1 issue on any of the cryptos I have played at.

But I do my own due diligence and fully understand if something did go wrong - zero I could do about it.

A much better experience than anything the UK can now offer. And have cashed out a number of times on rake back at certain offshores.

Your right on volatility of cryptos but thats part of the risk. When I do play again as currently only playing 3dice ... it will be offshore - will be crypto with a VPN and I do not anticipate any issues but am always prepared for them if they come along.

for your info Opera stop doing free VPN maybe u need to double check coz they stop 3 month ago, Proton you can only use for free IP on Japan Amsterdam and USA

 

[justdoit]

I don't play in crypto casinos and never thought about starting. I simply go to real casinos and play there. But what drives me nuts with UKGC online casinos is that despite following the same rules set by the licensor, most of them have different internal rules and requirements.

For example, recently (while being drunk) I signed with one shitty casino site from Progress Play (don't remember its name now) and deposited 1K, and played Book of Dead for a bit at £6, 8, 10. Then switched to Chaos Crew and hit over 400x bonus at £10 and requested 4.3K cashout. So, to pay out my winnings they asked me to provide an ID photo, a bank statement showing my income, and a photo of me holding my passport next to my face with preferably both hands visible.

For the next 3 days I did not provide them with anything, just wanted to see if they ask me about a thing, and I felt like shit and pissed off because of them asking me for stupid pictures.

Well..., then I had to get my GF to take the picture, and then i got paid after 2 days.

A similar thing was with Slotsmagic, but they did not ask me for a selfie with ID, however, they held the winnings till i provided them with a picture showing my PayPal acc, then a bank statement showing the money going to PayPal and my ID.

Some UK casinos only allow you to play after the KYC is done, and some don't give 2fuck...they allow you to play and they pay out winnings, and you only get KYC if you start dropping quite a bit of money in. Some can start blocking your deposits after some time, for me it was usually after i lost between 2-4K.

But at the same time, some do not block your deposits and simply let you lose.

With the top UK bookies, these things are different. You can easily sign up and if you win you get your winnings with no BS attached.

I don't get why these others are trying to be different.

Pokerstars never ask me for id I play over 3 years there, skybet same never even ask for id or card payment, not sure what is happen but even casinos start making there own rules like UKGC

 

[Guntis]

for your info Opera stop doing free VPN maybe u need to double check coz they stop 3 month ago, Proton you can only use for free IP on Japan Amsterdam and USA
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VeePN Chrome Extension many say is good, and it's free.

 

[satchnz]

Just use a local wallet. Purchase your crypto from the exchange of your choice and move it to your local wallet. Then make deposits from your local wallet to your casino of choice.

Regarding VPNs, use a reputable paid service. There are many uses for a VPN beyond gambling. What’s £60* per year when you are gambling 100’s or maybe even 1000’s?

I can’t comment on the tax side as I’m not dealing with enough volume to trigger anything in this area.

It’s really not that hard if you do your homework or talk to someone who knows what they are doing.

*I’m using one of the most expensive personal VPNs available, and at just under £5 per month, that’s only 25 spins for me at £0.20 per spin. Free VPNs give you what you pay for….

 

[justdoit]

Just use a local wallet. Purchase your crypto from the exchange of your choice and move it to your local wallet. Then make deposits from your local wallet to your casino of choice.

Regarding VPNs, use a reputable paid service. There are many uses for a VPN beyond gambling. What’s £60* per year when you are gambling 100’s or maybe even 1000’s?

I can’t comment on the tax side as I’m not dealing with enough volume to trigger anything in this area.

It’s really not that hard if you do your homework or talk to someone who knows what they are doing.

*I’m using one of the most expensive personal VPNs available, and at just under £5 per month, that’s only 25 spins for me at £0.20 per spin. Free VPNs give you what you pay for….

If i play all time on crypto yes is worth paying for VPN and 5% fee to buy Crypto, but way not help UK casino they pay tax they pay for licence and your money is guaranty to be paid if u follow casino t/c,

 

[satchnz]

If i play all time on crypto yes is worth paying for VPN and 5% fee to buy Crypto, but way not help UK casino they pay tax they pay for licence and your money is guaranty to be paid if u follow casino t/c,

You think that UK casinos (or any casino for that matter) care about you? It goes both ways I’m afraid.

In saying that, if you are happy for a UK casino to question why you sometimes play between midnight and 6am when they think you should be sleeping, or requesting SOW on small deposits and withdrawals, then continue to support them.

 

[slot_zombie]

The potential "pitfalls" of offshore gaming still seem like small potatoes compared with the inconvenience of playing within the UK jurisdiction.

People commenting on VPN costs or crypto fluctuations (that work both ways..) but will happily blow hundreds in a reduced RTP UK slot. It's a fiver a month for NordVPN, and, funnily enough the games run smoother and faster than a lot of the shonky web setups on home turf. Probably because they haven't got the timer or net loss nonsense.

Words to the wise, always use a Chrome extension to change your browser time to match the time of the VPN country you're pretending to be from.

And never, ever play progressive slots offshore. Most of them contain clauses in their game rules that if being played illegally outside of an authorised jurisdiction, the jackpot will not be paid by the game provider. Apart from that, have at it..

I took a long time out from the UK via GamStop last month, not because of a gambling problem but because I have no interest in UK casinos any more, and just wanted to close everything out in one go. If I get busted by Stake for using a VPN, and my list of back up casinos also goes down, that will be it for me and tbh I won't really care much at that point.

 

[pinnit2014]

To be honest, the pitfalls are are bit more than: they say 96/98, is it that? Who knows, no one checking. You apply for a licence you presumably want to keep it, so if you don't, you don't care if someone says: ill take this forward...etc

So yeah, as i play there, i get wanting to play at Cryptos but the risks are a bit more than than 'avoiding inconvenience'

 

[satchnz]

I’d be extremely naive to think there are no risks with playing at a non UKGC licensed casino - there absolutely are risks. But if you do your homework, you can minimise the risks. I’m prepared to take on those risks given the low stakes I gamble. Perhaps my attitude would be different if I was gambling thousands…

 

[justdoit]

You think that UK casinos (or any casino for that matter) care about you? It goes both ways I’m afraid.

In saying that, if you are happy for a UK casino to question why you sometimes play between midnight and 6am when they think you should be sleeping, or requesting SOW on small deposits and withdrawals, then continue to support them.

I think UK casino they just follow UKGC, or casinos are really scared from UKGC and they make more drama then others casinos, but still they pay tax and they cant just close your account when you win big to avoid paying you like crypto casinos do, I play on crypto many time I dont think is worth playing

 

[justdoit]

The potential "pitfalls" of offshore gaming still seem like small potatoes compared with the inconvenience of playing within the UK jurisdiction.

People commenting on VPN costs or crypto fluctuations (that work both ways..) but will happily blow hundreds in a reduced RTP UK slot. It's a fiver a month for NordVPN, and, funnily enough the games run smoother and faster than a lot of the shonky web setups on home turf. Probably because they haven't got the timer or net loss nonsense.

Words to the wise, always use a Chrome extension to change your browser time to match the time of the VPN country you're pretending to be from.

And never, ever play progressive slots offshore. Most of them contain clauses in their game rules that if being played illegally outside of an authorised jurisdiction, the jackpot will not be paid by the game provider. Apart from that, have at it..

I took a long time out from the UK via GamStop last month, not because of a gambling problem but because I have no interest in UK casinos any more, and just wanted to close everything out in one go. If I get busted by Stake for using a VPN, and my list of back up casinos also goes down, that will be it for me and tbh I won't really care much at that point.

is not problem vpn but there are 100s of players they dont know about crypto casino and they dont know the cost before they start gambling, everyone saying yee crypto casino but no one is talking about cost and risk they need to take before they start playing,

 

[goatwack]

Don't see the problem. So far we have:

- Need to use a VPN to dupe casino into believing you're from an accepted region

- Hope said VPN usage isn't used as a handy excuse to void potential winnings

- Set up crypto wallets, with volatile currencies, hope that upon making that £20 deposit it hasn't turned into £7.66 upon pressing 'Submit'

- Use possible pirated software. A-harr me hearties!

- Never ever never ever play Jackpot slots, because, you know, you're like well outside their operational jurisdiction (when it suits)

- Hope they pay out anything over a few thousand

And that's pretty much me sold. If this is the future, it can keep itself

 

[pinnit2014]

True, but you play 45p and hit DOA2 max win then start praying. Chance get paid, chance you don't and like i said, there's no assurance around if these games are 96/92 or whatever. But agree...it's risk v reward so as long as you know what getting into, then personal autonomy - just don't some a crying

 

[pinnit2014]

Don't see the problem. So far we have:

- Need to use a VPN to dupe casino into believing you're from an accepted region

- Hope said VPN usage isn't used as a handy excuse to void potential winnings

- Set up crypto wallets, with volatile currencies, hope that upon making that £20 deposit it hasn't turned into £7.66 upon pressing 'Submit'

- Use possible pirated software. A-harr me hearties!

- Never ever never ever play Jackpot slots, because, you know, you're like well outside their operational jurisdiction (when it suits)

- Hope they pay out anything over a few thousand

And that's pretty much me sold. If this is the future, it can keep itself

I think if you need to give a 'recommendation' on using an extension to change the time, you should probably know you're in enemy waters

 

[slot_zombie]

Don't see the problem. So far we have:

- Need to use a VPN to dupe casino into believing you're from an accepted region

- Hope said VPN usage isn't used as a handy excuse to void potential winnings

- Set up crypto wallets, with volatile currencies, hope that upon making that £20 deposit it hasn't turned into £7.66 upon pressing 'Submit'

- Use possible pirated software. A-harr me hearties!

- Never ever never ever play Jackpot slots, because, you know, you're like well outside their operational jurisdiction (when it suits)

- Hope they pay out anything over a few thousand

And that's pretty much me sold. If this is the future, it
can keep itself

You paint a bleak picture Mr. Goat.

We Crypto pioneers are the drunken, single bridesmaids at a plebian wedding. Still swaying emotionally on the dance floor, mascara running, when everyone else has retired to escape the watered down plonk and dubious DJ. I'm not sure where this paragraph was going, and am now lost, so will hereby place a full stop.

 

[danofthewibble]

I know of one Crypto that you must use a VPN to create an account at, but that’s it. Once logged in, you’re persistently logged in, and it only blocks you once your cookie has expired after a few weeks. Then login via VPN again and repeat.

Cashback on all deposits, pays out within minutes. Minimum withdrawal of less than €5. Minimum deposit of the same.

I miss The majority of UK sites accepting deposits of £5. Always enjoyed the fun of trying to turn the cost of a McDonalds meal into the price of a decent meal at a decent restaurant.

 

[paul7388]

I know of one Crypto that you must use a VPN to create an account at, but that’s it. Once logged in, you’re persistently logged in, and it only blocks you once your cookie has expired after a few weeks. Then login via VPN again and repeat.

Cashback on all deposits, pays out within minutes. Minimum withdrawal of less than €5. Minimum deposit of the same.

I miss The majority of UK sites accepting deposits of £5. Always enjoyed the fun of trying to turn the cost of a McDonalds meal into the price of a decent meal at a decent restaurant.

Am guessing you do not use bank card to deposit as majority of UK bookies sites still accept £5 deposits. Well William Hill, Paddy Power , Coral and Ladbrokes do anyway.

 

[danofthewibble]

Am guessing you do not use bank card to deposit as majority of UK bookies sites still accept £5 deposits. Well William Hill, Paddy Power , Coral and Ladbrokes do anyway.

They do, but their game selection is poorer, and at 94% in a lot of cases.

 

[justdoit]

They do, but their game selection is poorer, and at 94% in a lot of cases.

most of crypto casinos dont show RTP at all on PNG, you dont know what RTP u playing 10% or 96%