Is it possible to wager £1.5 million in 4 days?

colinsunderland

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We've been talking about this in the free spins thread and rather than derail the thread thought I would start a new one :)

21casino (and others in the group) are running a Live For Free promo whereby you get one point for every £20 wagered.

4 days in and someone apparently has wagered over £1.5 million, thats roughly (and this was in my head so won't be exact) £250 a minute, every minute, 24 hours a day for 4 days.

Does anyone think that is actually possible?

The leaderboard up until yesterday was

1 POELIE6555 75721
2 DANIEL1989 30540
3 BAGO08 8844
4 SZEF1234 7873
5 SMOKERPOK627 7704
6 FCP2008AM 4785
7 RAHEM70 4104
8 FERRYDELITS79 3816
9 NICKSCHILDER 3592
10 SLOTMASTER74 2864

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Possible but very unlikely,

12hrs off 12hrs on thats about £500 a minute flat out for 12hrs, Take in consideration the amount of time some bonus rounds take,

Around £80 every 10 seconds flat out for 12 hrs is just about blows the possibility out the window, Even more money when adding bonus time on that
 

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I think its time to go fetch our shovels lads...

C' mon, everyone muck in, its getting deep rather quick :eek:
 

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If the person in 1st place, is for real.. I wonder if they've actually read the promo properly??

"RANK IN FIRST PLACE AND WE’LL COVER YOUR LIVING EXPENSES TILL THE END OF THE YEAR!"

"1ST PLACE: £2,000 EVERY MONTH FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR"


Which sounds good, until you realise it's already October :eek:

The first prize is basically 4k, since they make the first payment until the 15th of November and the second on the 15th of December
 

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They're blatantly doctored numbers made up by the casino group in order to generate interest and get people to partake. No way that anyone could sustain those numbers even if 'possible'.

And anyone with that sort of clout would not even be needing to play slots, let alone for a menial reward.

"BBzzzzztt!!" Bullshit Detector :cool:
 

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They're blatantly doctored numbers made up by the casino group in order to generate interest and get people to partake. No way that anyone could sustain those numbers even if 'possible'.

And anyone with that sort of clout would not even be needing to play slots, let alone for a menial reward.

"BBzzzzztt!!" Bullshit Detector :cool:

well that was basically what I thought.

I don't understand why someone with that sort of money would play online casino's, and he must be playing at least £100 spins to be able to do that sort of wagering. But, when his name pops up on the recent winners list most the wins are 700-1000 euro, with the odd one 10-15k, and most seem to be on that pyramid game which takes ages to play.

Not saying the wagering isn't right, I just can't get my head round why someone would or could do that much in a few days, and why they would play at this casino. Videoslots for example would give guaranteed first place in the weekly race, and about £15000 cashback (although I think they have a max cashback amount) for that sort of wagering.

Having said that, it also makes no sense to make it up from the casino side, as its going to stop people playing, not entice them in. I like races and tournaments, thats why I looked at it, and as soon as I saw the leaderboard, instantly thought, stuff that.
 

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Most likely someone got lucky on the free £21 with a max cash out of a ton,

Why would any one plug that much in them sites? haven't they got a max withdraw a week. Look what VS would give you spending that much,

Any way looking at it £250 a minute non stop for 4 days, Ok lets say £500 a minute for 12hrs aday for 4 days, is it possible to wager 500 a minute? There is a max bet and also take the bonus rounds,
 

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If the person in 1st place, is for real.. I wonder if they've actually read the promo properly??

"RANK IN FIRST PLACE AND WE’LL COVER YOUR LIVING EXPENSES TILL THE END OF THE YEAR!"

"1ST PLACE: £2,000 EVERY MONTH FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR"


Which sounds good, until you realise it's already October :eek:

The first prize is basically 4k, since they make the first payment until the 15th of November and the second on the 15th of December

Till the end of the year? But which year?!

I'll take 2017 please :cool:

This competition is too heavily favoured towards me anyway. I'm just giving the other guy a head start. At my current calculations, I should be able to top the leaderboard with my 20p bets sometime in 2073 :(
 

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If this promo is limited to slot, I don't think it is possible.

But plying on table games is allowed for wagering, that's possible.

1k for every hand on blackjack or bacarrat can make 1.4 million wagered in 4 days easily.
 

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I remember a respin in practice mode at one casino at bikini party worth of 66k. :eek::eek::eek:
Anybody in a good day may try bets up to 1 k.
Quick spin is like 3sec per spin, 100 slot bets are easy to find. 20 x 100 x 60 = 120.000 in 1 hour.

A few months back I won 1500 bonus from achievements promo. That was 1500 x 50 = 75 k WR
I cleared that in a day, with 10 – 40 bets mostly, taking my time, doing other things, without any use of quick spin or auto play.
 
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That would be a so called "whale" for the casino.

Certainly exists. I remember meeting some folks from the US in the 2000's on a Fortune Lounge cruise and they would never play a slot at less than maximum bet. Their deposits would be 10K+, very often multiple times per day. It is the same like we "normals" deposit $100 and play with $0.90 bets. They would deposit 10K and bet $90/spin.

Back in the day when the US could still play Microgaming slots the max bet was 90-125, e.g. ThunderstruckI is 90, Loaded is 125. Some maths:

- $90 x 20 spins/minute x 60 minutes = $108,000/hours wagered
- 1.5 Mio / 108,000 = appr. 14hrs.

Casinos would treat this people like "gods", just to make sure they are happy spinning a fortune away and not wandering off to a competitor. Fleecing these whales is where casinos make the most profit. :rolleyes:
 

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From a practical point of view this is possible. Just tested this in Starburst.

- In 1min I can complete 15 spins. Reduce that by 1/3 to account for bonus rounds (that's being over aggressive on this imo), so 10 spins/min. That's 600 spins/hour.

- 1st place on the leader board had 75721 points meaning they'd wagered 75721*20 = 1514420.

- 1514420/4 days = 378605/day.

- The top bet on Starburst is £100/spin, 2nd top £50/spin. So 378605/(600*100) = 6.3 hours or 378605/(600*50) = 12.6 hours.

In short, while it is possible the player in question would need to be wagering BIG. Even if the number of spins is increased to 15/min the 3rd biggest betting size (£20/spin) would result in the player having to play over 21 hours/day to meet this target.

That said, I've come across players that wager like this in private discussions about complaints and when you're prepared to wager at those stakes making comparisons to what you could get at other operators isn't valid. Whatever cashback another operator publicly advertises, a player of this scale would have a bespoke deal with the casino probably worth significantly more to them than the race prize. They may not even be aware that they're qualified to play in the tournament promotion.

As somebody above has already pointed out, if this is a bogus figure them whoever has put it up really hasn't thought about it. Figures that high simply show all the regular players that they have zero chance of achieving the top prize and chasing this should be left to the high rollers.
 

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What ever the crack is the player must be on some good shit (speed / amphetamines)

Even if the code can be just about cracked, WHY would you do it? Take in a bit to do things like take a shit, make a drink, strecth your legs, I mean he must be spending a good few hours snorting,

That key board or mouse must be clicking away like no tomorrow, Unless the score is combined across the group and he is playing auto over a few sites, Got lucky and grinding away £10 - 20 spins on eacth site,

But this would not be for the poxy 4k winnings, Them drugs must of made him see things,

You affilates out there, Let me know if you get a few extra 000 on you commision next month :D
 

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But this would not be for the poxy 4k winnings, Them drugs must of made him see things

The chances are that this player isn't even aware of the tournament and is simply a high rolling player doing what they'd do anyway. They'll get informed at the end of the tournament and it'll be a pleasant surprise. If you look at the leader board, they'd played more than twice what they required to hold #1 at that point. Given that over spend I doubt being #1 was their big motivation.

TP
 

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The chances are that this player isn't even aware of the tournament and is simply a high rolling player doing what they'd do anyway. They'll get informed at the end of the tournament and it'll be a pleasant surprise. If you look at the leader board, they'd played more than twice what they required to hold #1 at that point. Given that over spend I doubt being #1 was their big motivation.

TP

I guessed that wasn't the motivation,

I mean 4k what would that last them, 2 minutes :)

But hense why theses comps are pointless for the regular player, As they do not stand a chance, and the winner will plug that 4k in back in minutes
 

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I guessed that wasn't the motivation,

I mean 4k what would that last them, 2 minutes :)

Pretty much. I think for a lot of players here, including myself, it's hard to understand the mindset of the genuine high roller. There are a small number of players that will happily make 5-6 figure deposits on a semi-regular basis and not really worry themselves too much when they lose. Without a word of a lie I've seen one case where a player received a half million pound bonus upfront before their deposit had cleared. This was at one of the UK bookmakers, but it gives you an idea of the kind of bespoke deals that are put in place to attract these players through the door.

Most of us here have had a VIP account with one operator or another, but the truth is that 'VIP' just means 'considered a little more valuable than the average player'. The real VIPs receive benefits that most of us would consider obscene.

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The chances are that this player isn't even aware of the tournament and is simply a high rolling player doing what they'd do anyway. They'll get informed at the end of the tournament and it'll be a pleasant surprise.

I agree. High Rollers at those sorts of stakes aren't motivated by prizes like this. As an affiliate, I have seen players turn over well in excess of 1m+ in a day so it is possible if the stakes allow it (in my experience, the max bets on many games on Quickfire platforms, etc. probably wouldn't). I've never really understood the appeal of "wagering" competitions myself. And especially those that publish leader boards. It's like the MG slot tournaments: if I see an unrealistically high leader I think there's no point in trying to beat them.
 

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I agree. High Rollers at those sorts of stakes aren't motivated by prizes like this. As an affiliate, I have seen players turn over well in excess of 1m+ in a day so it is possible if the stakes allow it (in my experience, the max bets on many games on Quickfire platforms, etc. probably wouldn't). I've never really understood the appeal of "wagering" competitions myself. And especially those that publish leader boards. It's like the MG slot tournaments: if I see an unrealistically high leader I think there's no point in trying to beat them.

Killed two birds in one stone,

motivated by 4k when they blow there nose on 1k bills,
2nd is theses tournaments are pointless for the regular player, SO why advertise them? Is beyond me,

But also I do not understand is why a big spender would play such sites with max pay outs?

Also some sites put a wager on theses so called promo's, Just imagine trying to withdraw 1mill and be told you had a 2k bonus added with a wager and broke the max bet rules :eek:, Will refund your last deposit 100k but they lost the other 15 100k they put in, Casino not bothered as they just made a packet over the last few months, They do not want to be risking paying back big,

I know its lose change to some of these oil tycoons , But what a bloody network to chose to spend it on
 

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I thought maybe a casino rep might have commented as to if its likely/possible, especially as so many have read the thread :(
 

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High rollers. One thing that always stuck in my mind is a stay I had at Bellagios in Las Vegas a few years ago - they had a whole row of tables of blackjack on the main floor - not even in a specified high rollers area - where the minimum bet per hand was $10,000 - and people were playing three hands and betting several chips per bet !
 

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THREAD CLOSED :D

ALL BOLLOX I been talking to a few people,

If you really belive that rubbish than your on a next level,

Take all the facts in, Wager amount with is limited, amount of time its posible to play, Auto? You tell me, Money? No problem to rich peeps,

Q? WHY, On that participial network
 

colinsunderland

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Things derailed a bit.
To return to the original question, the answer is yes, with 10 hrs play per day and 30 bet size.
4 x 10 x 60 x 20 x 30 = 1.440.000

1 spin every 3 seconds with no bonuses or anything else that slows them down, like replacing the mouse every few hours after cosntant clicking :eek2::D
 
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