iPoker (Titan, Noble, Fair..) pure scums

c7....from the little evidence you have provided here, it sounds as though you may be a decent tournament player. However your cash game and bankroll management skills are lacking.

while it sucks that you hit a down streak, you will never improve your game until you can at least accept that your play may have contributed to your going bust.

why don't you go to another site and prove to us that you are a great player. i double-dare you to take me up on this offer!

OK, one more proof:

I start playing at Party with $500 and now I has $1,144.. plus spent some $ on other games and like bingo (even its pure luck). And do not play tournaments at all just tried few and lost.. I LOVE $ TABLES, and longer play, usually need some time to adapt my play for 1. maniacs 2. too agressive players.. then I am one who lead play :thumbsup:
 
Come back and post when you're BUSTO

Also, what's your screenname on Party?
 
Noble & Titan

I have been playing at these two sites for awhile now. I have had moments where it does seem like one player "knows" what the river card with be. Betting on an inside straight for instance and beating out other hands. Sure once in awhile you take that chance but some players do this over and over and always win. Just strange sometimes. I know the side games, i.e. video poker, have taken more money from me than I care to remember.
I used to play at William Hill afew years ago and did pretty well. I never tried to cash out, just used it to play. But saw some negative things about them on here and was wondering if there is any new information on them? I have searched this site but can't seem to find anything recent. Thanks for any help.
 
As 1st, we all may chaise or play bad cards as trying luck and so on.. but when you lose good hand with lucky river or double runner + we play in bigger amount BUT our opponent do not wish to fold his losing (ok winning lol) hand as he knows what will come thats really weird! Ok may happen to anyone once for a while or even twice a day BUT if happen more times then something surely ISNT ok.

I do not claim anything, for each site (network!) we should discuse separately BUT more and more I play its getting obvious how some/they built their RNGs! Not random at all!!

Plus, whats also important for us to know:

DOES THEY DEAL (ALL) CARDS BEFORE EACH HAND (AS SHOULD & KEEP IT SECRET!) OR EACH FLOP/TURN/RIVER BEEN 'CALCULATED' <- HERE IS POINT WHERE I SUSPECT THE MOST

In that we may include long "bad beats" as happen to me many times, as site force you to play, with good cards, then giving you flop where you has top pair or 4 of same color.. and then what? you do not winning nor 1 hand.. ok let say that is also posible BUT how that happening all over again?? And what if been followed by losing cards as AA, KK.. then getting obvious that isnt your day! OK 1 day, but what if last longer... IM GETTING SURE THAT THEN WE MAY REALLY SUSPECT IN SETUPS or JUST PLAYING VERSUS HOUSE PLAYERS WHO TAKING SOME HANDS WHICH SHOULD WE WIN (yes those hands we talk here when you get called with J2o and we holding QQ and he only has 2 at flop and get lucky J at river!! <- just example)

AND ONE MORE IMPORTANT THING IS! When all bad happen, you fold your average cards as let say 97o and what each time you fold cards you may call you gettin great flop.. thats how they WASH OUR BRAIN & EMPTY OUR POCKETS, no matter what you do call or not you wouldnt get that next when you call, even if you get no big deal at all you will earn just small!!
 
you do call or not you wouldnt get that next when you call, even if you get no big deal at all you will earn just small!!

You're going to see this both offline and online. Difference is, you're going to see this more often online.

Think about it..where else can you play 60+ hands an hour? Definately not offline.
 
Amazing Thread.. tons of things to discuss

I consider my self a Playtech Fan... I love their gaming software as well as the admin software.

One thing I do dislike and hate about them is that most of the companies who run Playtech are a bunch of scammers and Playtech does nothing about it.

Sites like:

CD Poker aka Club Dice Casino
Bet Royal
Joyland
among others... have given this brand an awful reputation. Never the less, thera are few sites which are amazing:

Bet365 (weird they use Microgaming poker)
The Main Street Group
XXl Club Casino...

I dont believe the starter of this thread took the time to write that post only to give some trouble to them. I am pretty sure he did face some problems with them.

Let me tell you a little bit about poker. A honest business will never do those things since when you deposit money in poker, the site is not proffiting from the actual deposit.. Rake is what gives them money.

The Dark side to the "Rake" is the following... Let say you open a poker site, and you have 1000 players, all of them depositing, playing, winning, losing, etc. You are making your money from the percentage you take on ring tables from every pot. So either if a customer wins $100000 or loses $20000 you dont give a "%"%" because some other guys won it. But what happens when an operation becomes evil and they are putting players from their own site playing with their customers????????

Thats when the story becomes dark and evil. So the company is profitting from rake, and in addition they are placing players from their site playing in ring tables and probably you have 3 guys in the same office taking the money from 7 customers.

When you have 3 guys who know what hand each of them have is pretty easy to take your money....

Now, if this happens... then the site does worries about a guy proffiting every day... Why let him withdrawal all those winnings if I can place 3 of my guys and keep it to my self???? Sounds good or not...

I live in Costa Rica.. a gambling paradise... 70% of your social life is with people who works for online gambling so you hear everything that happens.

As far as I know, there is no Playtech Poker in this country operating at this time.

However we are home to several respected sites, so let me give you some tips of sites that will never invest money or efforts to steal from customers like that.

I had friends who were paid $7 an hour just to play poker for 8 hours a day.

You want my advise... play in the following sites where you will never be sitting on a table with some guy who was hired to steal from you.

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(I dont like tribeca, but they are honest)
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(their poker blows, but is honest)

I konw people from those sites,.. I guarantee you they will never pay an 8 crew staff to sit 24 hours a day to proffit out of their poker customers.

Regardless what people think of Costa Rican sites, we do have some good people who are very interested in providing a reliable, honest and professional service to the online gambler.
 
I consider my self a Playtech Fan... I love their gaming software as well as the admin software.

One thing I do dislike and hate about them is that most of the companies who run Playtech are a bunch of scammers and Playtech does nothing about it.

Sites like:

CD Poker aka Club Dice Casino
Bet Royal
Joyland
among others... have given this brand an awful reputation. Never the less, thera are few sites which are amazing:

Bet365 (weird they use Microgaming poker)
The Main Street Group
XXl Club Casino...

I dont believe the starter of this thread took the time to write that post only to give some trouble to them. I am pretty sure he did face some problems with them.

Let me tell you a little bit about poker. A honest business will never do those things since when you deposit money in poker, the site is not proffiting from the actual deposit.. Rake is what gives them money.

The Dark side to the "Rake" is the following... Let say you open a poker site, and you have 1000 players, all of them depositing, playing, winning, losing, etc. You are making your money from the percentage you take on ring tables from every pot. So either if a customer wins $100000 or loses $20000 you dont give a "%"%" because some other guys won it. But what happens when an operation becomes evil and they are putting players from their own site playing with their customers????????

Thats when the story becomes dark and evil. So the company is profitting from rake, and in addition they are placing players from their site playing in ring tables and probably you have 3 guys in the same office taking the money from 7 customers.

When you have 3 guys who know what hand each of them have is pretty easy to take your money....

Now, if this happens... then the site does worries about a guy proffiting every day... Why let him withdrawal all those winnings if I can place 3 of my guys and keep it to my self???? Sounds good or not...

I live in Costa Rica.. a gambling paradise... 70% of your social life is with people who works for online gambling so you hear everything that happens.

As far as I know, there is no Playtech Poker in this country operating at this time.

However we are home to several respected sites, so let me give you some tips of sites that will never invest money or efforts to steal from customers like that.

I had friends who were paid $7 an hour just to play poker for 8 hours a day.

You want my advise... play in the following sites where you will never be sitting on a table with some guy who was hired to steal from you.

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(I dont like tribeca, but they are honest)
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(their poker blows, but is honest)

I konw people from those sites,.. I guarantee you they will never pay an 8 crew staff to sit 24 hours a day to proffit out of their poker customers.

Regardless what people think of Costa Rican sites, we do have some good people who are very interested in providing a reliable, honest and professional service to the online gambler.


Yes, I agree with bigger part of your post. Even I do not has proofs (lol noone has..) I am also very sure that some sites especially neworks suck/steal money from players using their players who has any unfair vantage over us ie normal players.
"I dont believe the starter of this thread took the time to write that post only to give some trouble to them. I am pretty sure he did face some problems with them." - TRUE, and my problem wasnt CDpoker directly, its iPOKER!

I suspect in few networks where I played, also iPoker...


No I do not think that good player may lose all the times. And usually trigger I see they using is when you reach certain amount of $$$. Yes then they send you those guys or just place some unfair things at your account and no matter how you play you are convicted to lose! Happen to me few times.

Also there is lot real maniacs or kids, who play & do not care for money at all, those sites and networks using them too!! And in most cases they never takes out their money, or when they try site confront them with thier mistakes/cheats/abuses and keep their money!!!

Also what else they do: giving you enough good cards to call or bet but always not so good to win! If this happen in looong series then surely someone messing our play/account & therefor money! :mad:


I really think that we/players should find some way to fight all them. For start to warn all players & after to find way to pay them back and take all that money.. (cheating from side of poker room/network is and should be crime in any country!!!) :cool:


Btw, only poker is real game, as life itself, thats why I like to play & as long I see that I am better than many others I will play. So money isnt the only reason for my play + everyone like to win, get $$$ too. :thumbsup:
 
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Please stop slandering a reputable casino gaming software provider. You have no evidence whatsoever. The only conclusion that can be drawn from your posts is that YOU AREN'T ANY GOOD AT POKER!
 
Please stop slandering a reputable casino gaming software provider. You have no evidence whatsoever. The only conclusion that can be drawn from your posts is that YOU AREN'T ANY GOOD AT POKER!

You know what F U (funny you), keep your oppinion for yourself.. and if I do not has evidence why they still not answering + keep so clever their infos. We may find out more & easily about CIA or MOSAD than about them lol.

Think what you like, all I wrote here is truth & F U, if you think that I am not good then play me! I am ready for ya any time, jerk. Your ma is/was great poker player, you know how I know? She never posted here nor play online, right? ;) (take as joke ONLY, thats the way you make conclusions.. lol)


NEWS. I Stopped playing there almost completely but went to play and interesting again I been kicked from tournament, but this time REAL MIRACLE HAPPEN.. yes, they (CDp) refunded me full amount, lovely I got back my $6 but what we gonna do with $3,000++??.. will be continued..[\B]
 
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You know what F U (funny you), keep your oppinion for yourself.. and if I do not has evidence why they still not answering + keep so clever their infos. We may find out more & easily about CIA or MOSAD than about them lol.

Think what you like, all I wrote here is truth & F U, if you think that I am not good then play me! I am ready for ya any time, jerk. Your ma is/was great poker player, you know how I know? She never posted here nor play online, right? ;) (take as joke ONLY, thats the way you make conclusions.. lol)


NEWS. I Stopped playing there almost completely but went to play and interesting again I been kicked from tournament, but this time REAL MIRACLE HAPPEN.. yes, they (CDp) refunded me full amount, lovely I got back my $6 but what we gonna do with $3,000++??[\B]


Just because you say "take it as a joke" doesn't mean you can go off on people like that.


Same with redefining "FU". We all know what you mean by that.

.. will be continued..

Please, spare us, ok?
 
I totally disagree with you..

Please stop slandering a reputable casino gaming software provider. You have no evidence whatsoever. The only conclusion that can be drawn from your posts is that YOU AREN'T ANY GOOD AT POKER!

What proof you have they are reputible??

As I said before Playtech is an amazing gaming software, they do have tons of scammers using their product and not running a decent operatoin.

I am not saying they are not reputible, as a matter of fact I hated CD Poker and probably had my worst gaming experience with them...

On the other hand, Titan Poker is outstanding... I really liked that place and haven´t deposited there only because I am drowning on debts.

They could be from the same network, but a different operation.

How do you know if Noble runs the most decen poker operation on the web and on the other hand some other playtech poker site is hiring 50 morons to sit with you at the table and make money by doing 100% collution 24/7??? Can you prove that?? (not saying is happening with them)

What I can do tell you, is that several close friends of mine have worked for small, big, nice, nasty poker rooms where they play 8 hours a day poker in order to proffit some more...
 
Thank you Wathdog for expressing your oppinion + for giving us warn/proof that SOME SITES DO USE THEIR PLAYERS, TO PLAY US WITH UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.

Isnt the same at all to play normal players even props or those guys, who knows your cards or cards will be shown at table. Any unfair vantage is cheating + also very important is to realise: all that + wins/loses influence anyones play! Plus no need to mention, putting you on TILT..

I am NL player, and losing just few times all or bigger amounts is HUGE LOSS, then in best case you (I) need many hours or even days to get it back.. so they no need to use their evil tricks so often at all thats important to realise!
(There is so many bluffers or bad/loose players and I may not fold my good cards each time they bet more or raise me!) So, cheating isnt hard at all nor they need to use it often, once daily may be more than enough vs players as me, they may steal HUGE money; 30 (days) x $200 = $6,000.00 monthly !!!


In my doom, I target iPoker network itself even if I know that they (including PlayTech) making and offering software for separate ussage too. To not sound only badly may add: I played at iPokers network over CD poker, and may say they has one of the best software on internet.


Some of many reasons why those EVIL networks adding so many operators is:

1. To cheat players, and affiliates
2. To earn money from both sides operators & players
3. To fool players thinking that playing at another room (site) is different, but you still play with same conditions & same opponets
4. To easily inject their own players, and fool even operators (sites/rooms), who also do not know for them. And therefor use them as 'vigrin' shield between you and them..


In global, I do not has anything against networks. But some things should be clear & also writen + all those rooms/sites should tell where they belong + who is in charge for problems and so on..

Here but also from some sites/rooms I received explanation as they do not see anything unusual in any play or when we (I) losing so many good hands. So let me ask you this:

What is UNUSUAL??

To lose AA versus 72o OR maybe to lose trips with opponent who getting lucky straigh at river chasing it, even he knows that all ods are versus him when we play in bigger money...; At poker we rarely getting nuts, unbeatable cards/hands, so there is always posibility that your opponent may beat you! AND for your info, with most cards at table someone may has straight or flush (!) but that isnt reason for us to be afraid each and every time we has nice two pairs or even trips.. Plus any time, we/you may be beaten with some nasty pocket pair.. and so on!! POINT IS: 1.This shouldnt happen too often 2.We always may & should read opponents with more or less success and cut our losses


REALLY, what we should lose that they say: "Yes, we has reason to beleive that you being playing at unfair environment". I am afraid (know) they will NEVER say that! (especially if they cheating!)


As very smart person and very good poker player with huge knowledge about pc, softwares, inet.. I telling you:

When you lossing good cards too often and or in long series, its signal that something is wrong. Any good player may feel those situations, similar to real lifes play, when you may freely say: "I do not know how you cheat, but yes I am sure you doing it!!"


Lets play poker & try to stop all those malversations.


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Just because you say "take it as a joke" doesn't mean you can go off on people like that.


Same with redefining "FU". We all know what you mean by that.



Please, spare us, ok?


Thanks for saying (my) words instead of me ;) and bigger thanks for negative points, making obvious who is who here & why :thumbsup:
 
As very smart person and very good poker player with huge knowledge about pc, softwares, inet.. I telling you:

if you're so smart, why did you continue to play when you suspected the site was dirty? or perhaps you made a conscious decision to go bust to prove your case in this matter? Old Attachment (Invalid)

stick to bingo, donk!
 
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if you're so smart, why did you continue to play when you suspected the site was dirty? or perhaps you made a conscious decision to go bust to prove your case in this matter? Old Attachment (Invalid)

stick to bingo, donk!

lol @ the mini-simmo pic ;)

I've got a great idea. How about 9 ppl from this thread sit down with c7 at a private table, and see how things go. No collusion, just everyone for themselves. :p

1/2 2/4 whatever. Everyone buys in the full amount. c7, feel free to reload, and often...ok? ;)

Unfortunately, I'm going offline next week due to the need to put all my resources towards school, but should be back online mid-late October. Any time after that would be sweet :)
 
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Wonderful, we may use your posts for any funny+crazy forums..

and YES give me more "-" points I love to get it from i****s as some of you :)
 
Ok, I will post you my hands.. ISNT POSSIBLE THAT ALWAYS any moron who go all get lucky vs me and me NEVER

THEY STINK 1000% I just tried to play there again but same bullshits!!!

They are fackin CHEATERS, MUST BE SOME WAY TO GET THEM

I WANT EACH MY CENT BACK, SO ANY ADVICE GUYS? (and stop with stupid replies, I am sick of some of you and answering go to H**L together with them!)
 
I WANT EACH MY CENT BACK, SO ANY ADVICE GUYS? (and stop with stupid replies, I am sick of some of you and answering go to H**L together with them!)

Yeah, get a 2nd job. You're never going to recover your losses playing poker.

Since when has it been acceptable to make libelous comments here on a casino or software provider with less than no evidence to back it up?

Oh well, might as well take advantage

Warren Cloud/Oliver Curran should be rogued at every watchdog site for unethical business practices. He should also be arrested if/when he ever lands on American soil, and be sent to Guantanamo Bay for an indefinite period of time.
 
Ok, I will post you my hands.. ISNT POSSIBLE THAT ALWAYS any moron who go all get lucky vs me and me NEVER

THEY STINK 1000% I just tried to play there again but same bullshits!!!

They are fackin CHEATERS, MUST BE SOME WAY TO GET THEM

I WANT EACH MY CENT BACK, SO ANY ADVICE GUYS? (and stop with stupid replies, I am sick of some of you and answering go to H**L together with them!)

You rant and rave they're cheaters...AND THEN YOU GO BACK, YET AGAIN!

My advice for you is to move out of your parents' basement, get a job, and leave poker playing to the people who aren't completely delusional.
 
Ok, everyone calm down - back up facts with proof and keep the mudslinging out of the forums.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
 
This is the pantomime thread. Oh yes its rigged, oh no its not:lolup:

c7poker I would suggest you post 50 hands where you got sucked out on and then we could see if it was just some bad player getting lucky, or potential cheating/collusion/knowledge of the next card etc. There are guys on here that would be able to analyse the hands and say with certainty whether something dodgy is going on. But we need to see the actual hands mate.

Last night I got hammered time and time again on the tribeca network for $140 playing $1-2 LIMIT. But the out of the 9 players at my table 7 of them were playing 90% of their hands and taking K high to the river so I expect a monstrously bad session every now and then. If this happened every night for a month I would be convinced the network was rigged but it doesnt and I average $500+ profit monthly.

And on the subject of cold streaks EVERY poker player has had em and they are cruel and painful, and when in the middle of one you feel you cannot win no matter what you do.

And lastly the site you talk about may very well be rigged, you have reported your feelings to us on a major forum and thakn you for that, but if you keep on ranting about it you are going to find that some of people are going to lose respect for you if you do not back up your alligations with some proof/handhistories.
 
This is the pantomime thread. Oh yes its rigged, oh no its not:lolup:

c7poker I would suggest you post 50 hands where you got sucked out on and then we could see if it was just some bad player getting lucky, or potential cheating/collusion/knowledge of the next card etc. There are guys on here that would be able to analyse the hands and say with certainty whether something dodgy is going on. But we need to see the actual hands mate.

Yes, its fine - mean on your answer/ask.

Is it normal to you guys that I losin 95% of all straights, most I flop and has till bloody river.. (yea i know... if someone waits flush or so.. usually boats get me in 90%! beacuse those easy chasiers I know to scare before turn)?!

IS IT?! And each cost me (DAMN) too much money

3+% I split

and less than 2% I winning


SO WHAT MORE TO SAY THAT SOME OF YOU GET RIGHT PICTURE HOW THEY CHEAT, plus I has little more.. any moron who play me in bigger money wins, even I has AA and flop A, each time he will get lucky with some insane straight or flush...

SO WHO MAY ANALYSE HANDS, AND WHAT I MAY EXPECT AFTER IS MY QUESTION, and thanks. :notworthy


Really some of you sounds so naive.. just think and count how many $$$$$$$$ they stealing each day when only from myself they took several thousands.. :mad:
 

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