I believe that Club World runs their casino at the lowest RTP

Again...I have my own opinion on RTG BUT... I do NOT understand, how you can complain about losing over a very short time, if you just WON 17 grand from the same place.
You are still WAY up, and you still complain ? Do you think the casinos are moneytrees, that just hand out money to all the players, and not least....do you have ANY idea how many players had to lose their $50 deposit to pay your 17.000 win ? Maybe now it's someone elses turn to win, and your turn to lose. You really have to get real about gambling.

Blackknight, when you say "casinos are moneytrees, that just hand out money to all the players", i would say WHY NOT?? Casinos has been taking my money and the others. Do you know that I've won over $20,000 USD in Vegascasino21 , topgame and they just shut down and run away. I would LOVE for them to become moneytrees and we can just pluck it. Casinos earn but they have to give back to us too.

What I want is a fair system, not losing all the way like depositing $6000 and lose them all. As I've mentioned, last week, 1 feature every 10-20 spins. This week, not even a feature after 100 spins and if there is, the feature pays only alittle. The difference is too wide apart.

Just a suggestion, A fair system will be like, 1 feature every 50 - 60spins (week 1) , 1 feature every 70-80 spins (week 2) , 1 feature every 30 - 40spins (week 3).... the difference is not that far apart.. :)
 
The size of your bet is equal to the size of your disposable income. But on a $50 deposit, a $19.00 wager is extreme in my opinion. RTG casinos are notorious for being very brutal, lose one minute and tight the next. But, hey, whatever floats your boat. Just know that you might be on a roll right now and the next 100 deposits might be lost in seconds.

Oh, I won $3000 on a $25 deposit betting $.20 per spin so size of wager does not govern amount of winning spins at RTG casinos.

Good Luck.

Thanks anniemac for the advice. I do not know about RTG slots you see.. I've been losing this whole week betting on small bets.. so yesterday i decided to waste my $50 and bet $19 per spin and give it a try. And shockingly, it works. It maybe luck but heh, who knows it could be the method? Just saying.. :p
 
Thanks anniemac for the advice. I do not know about RTG slots you see.. I've been losing this whole week betting on small bets.. so yesterday i decided to waste my $50 and bet $19 per spin and give it a try. And shockingly, it works. It maybe luck but heh, who knows it could be the method? Just saying.. :p

lol...I would NOT spend more than the $50 you already set aside, for testing THAT theory ;)
 
Blackknight, when you say "casinos are moneytrees, that just hand out money to all the players", i would say WHY NOT?? Casinos has been taking my money and the others. Do you know that I've won over $20,000 USD in Vegascasino21 , topgame and they just shut down and run away. I would LOVE for them to become moneytrees and we can just pluck it. Casinos earn but they have to give back to us too.

What I want is a fair system, not losing all the way like depositing $6000 and lose them all. As I've mentioned, last week, 1 feature every 10-20 spins. This week, not even a feature after 100 spins and if there is, the feature pays only alittle. The difference is too wide apart.

Just a suggestion, A fair system will be like, 1 feature every 50 - 60spins (week 1) , 1 feature every 70-80 spins (week 2) , 1 feature every 30 - 40spins (week 3).... the difference is not that far apart.. :)

Shahran,

You must be living in Utopia to come out with such a suggestion. If a casino (Vegas21) acts rogue and runs away with your business you cannot blame others can you? The casinos are in a business to make profits as with any other companies in your country which is well-known for being business-friendly. You won $17K so just contine playing in $50 chunks and no matter how bad it gets it will take you ages to lose it back.

You are new to this industry so with your brilliant early wins you must think it is always going to be rosy. Quite the opposite I would say as most of the members here I dare say are in the red as the 'house always wins'. You are virtually saying it's right for'Robbing Peter to pay Paul' and so while I am enthusiastic about your wins I would advise you to either quit online gaming or ensure your future daily deposits should be maintained at say $100.
 
Shahran,

You must be living in Utopia to come out with such a suggestion. If a casino (Vegas21) acts rogue and runs away with your business you cannot blame others can you? The casinos are in a business to make profits as with any other companies in your country which is well-known for being business-friendly. You won $17K so just contine playing in $50 chunks and no matter how bad it gets it will take you ages to lose it back.

You are new to this industry so with your brilliant early wins you must think it is always going to be rosy. Quite the opposite I would say as most of the members here I dare say are in the red as the 'house always wins'. You are virtually saying it's right for'Robbing Peter to pay Paul' and so while I am enthusiastic about your wins I would advise you to either quit online gaming or ensure your future daily deposits should be maintained at say $100.

Yes, I might be living in Utopia but Chuchu, I'm maybe new to RTG slots but I'm NOT NEW to slots. I've been playing online casinos for almost 10 years. I've started in playtech casinos and then to topgame casinos. You may think that it's luck to win that $17,000 but it's definitely not. It takes alot of skills betting different range of bets at certain rounds after a feature it's being hit. I'm still experimenting on RTG, that's why I need RTG slots experienced players to give advice or two about their slots.

Coz I noticed some irregular patterns. I've been playing playtech and topgame casinos and the patterns are not that obvious. I might be wrong about RTG coz I'm still playing it for 6 days only.
I will definitely take your advice about the $100 deposit maximum. Thank you Chuchu.
 
Yes, I might be living in Utopia but Chuchu, I'm maybe new to RTG slots but I'm NOT NEW to slots. I've been playing online casinos for almost 10 years. I've started in playtech casinos and then to topgame casinos. You may think that it's luck to win that $17,000 but it's definitely not. It takes alot of skills betting different range of bets at certain rounds after a feature it's being hit. I'm still experimenting on RTG, that's why I need RTG slots experienced players to give advice or two about their slots.

Coz I noticed some irregular patterns. I've been playing playtech and topgame casinos and the patterns are not that obvious. I might be wrong about RTG coz I'm still playing it for 6 days only.
I will definitely take your advice about the $100 deposit maximum. Thank you Chuchu.

ummmm, it takes skills to press buttons and hope for some luck? All this time I've been doing it wrong, I guess. :D
 
ummmm, it takes skills to press buttons and hope for some luck? All this time I've been doing it wrong, I guess. :D

hehe.. skills is not about pressing the buttons or hope. It's about betting different bet size and different lines on each round. Don't worry, I maybe wrong but my method
really helps me to win alot of money. I don't depend on luck when gambling. It's always about statistics. Why do you think casinos put a payout percentage in the first place? We just should know how to make use of it. People always say we always lose in the long run but how about we do it a short run instead *winks*.

I'm sure you have your own way too :)
 
Yes, I might be living in Utopia but Chuchu, I'm maybe new to RTG slots but I'm NOT NEW to slots. I've been playing online casinos for almost 10 years. I've started in playtech casinos and then to topgame casinos. You may think that it's luck to win that $17,000 but it's definitely not. It takes alot of skills betting different range of bets at certain rounds after a feature it's being hit. I'm still experimenting on RTG, that's why I need RTG slots experienced players to give advice or two about their slots.

Coz I noticed some irregular patterns. I've been playing playtech and topgame casinos and the patterns are not that obvious. I might be wrong about RTG coz I'm still playing it for 6 days only.
I will definitely take your advice about the $100 deposit maximum. Thank you Chuchu.

If you think you can control a slot machine, or outsmart it, you are totally deluding yourself.

At present you are experiencing the positive side of variance. I promise you will experience the negative side, and hopefully you will think differently. If not, you're in for a world of hurt.

Sorry, but there's no way you're ahead in ten years betting like that. In fact, your posts sound more like you're trying to convince yourself rather than us.
 
If you think you can control a slot machine, or outsmart it, you are totally deluding yourself.

At present you are experiencing the positive side of variance. I promise you will experience the negative side, and hopefully you will think differently. If not, you're in for a world of hurt.

Sorry, but there's no way you're ahead in ten years betting like that. In fact, your posts sound more like you're trying to convince yourself rather than us.

Nifty, there NO WAY you can control a slot machine. I've never said that in my post. But there is a WAY on how to increase your chances in winning. I'm not just saying this just the point of saying. Again, There is a WAY To increase the chances in winning slots BUT we can NEVER Control it.

If you saying about experiencing the negative side, ohh you have no idea how much I owe the bank credit cards for the past 4-5 years of my online gambling. I've lost so much that I've decided that I have to find a way to INCREASE my chances to win at slots. I'm so depressed that I nearly broke up in a relationship. Luckily, after much experiences in slot, I can get to pay back all my loans.

I'm not convincing anybody about slots. My only tip is, believe me, I used not to notice it BUT the payout percentage (92% - 95%) is there for a reason. :)
 
Nifty, there NO WAY you can control a slot machine. I've never said that in my post. But there is a WAY on how to increase your chances in winning. I'm not just saying this just the point of saying. Again, There is a WAY To increase the chances in winning slots BUT we can NEVER Control it.

If you saying about experiencing the negative side, ohh you have no idea how much I owe the bank credit cards for the past 4-5 years of my online gambling. I've lost so much that I've decided that I have to find a way to INCREASE my chances to win at slots. I'm so depressed that I nearly broke up in a relatnship. Luckily, after much experiences in slot, I an get to pay back all my loans.

I'm not convincing anybody about slots. My only tip is, believe me, I used not to notice it BUT the payout percentage (92% - 95%) is there for a reason. :)

No.....you have increased your VARIANCE not your chances.

I'm telling you now..... you might get to pay off all your credit cards while variance is on your side, but she is a cruel mistress and she will take it all back and more. If your method is a sure winner, then someone smarter than you would have discovered it years ago and their wouldn't be a casino left on earth.

What is even more worrying, is that you obviously have/had a serious gambling problem, and you think the way to deal with it is to place higher bets with higher variance?????

Any newbies who are reading.....DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME
 
Hi there guys,

I apologize if I've said wrongly. I'm just a newbie in slots. That's why I need pointers from all the experienced players like all of you.
I'm still VERY new in RTG slots. For your info, I've been playing RTG for only 5 days. I usually played at Topgame casinos since it's
down, I've shifted to RTG Casinos.

The main thing here is that I've still got alot to learn from masters like all of you. I'm still experimenting especially on RTG Slots. I'm betting high
because in Topgame Casinos, the higher you bet, the chances of you getting a HIT is Very high and much better. (Usually from $15 - $48 per spin).

So I thought RTG will be the same.. if i'm doing wrong, please correct me.. I'm a newbie in RTG slots especially. :(

This post of yours explains alot.
TopGame slots are mostly VERY low variance, which means they give out lots of small wins and many feautures with relative low payouts.

RTG slots are the opposite, very HIGH variance, you'll get loads of non-paying spins, not many feautures, but the payouts can be very high.
They are also very streaky, you can easily go 400-500 spins without a freespinround, or hit them 5 times within 100 spins.

When I played Topgame in the past, I usually placed bets 5-10 times higher than I do on RTG or Microgaming.

So be careful with RTG games. On high bets they can bankrupt you in the blink of an eye.
 
But latest update, I just deposited $50 just moments ago, and played Raindance. I bet $19.00 per spin and got to $1500. Completed the wagering requirements and withdraw $1200. Get back all my loses this whole week. Phew.

That's because I picked up the phone, gave RTG a call and told them to turn the "win" switch back on. Too many losers - can't have that. :rolleyes:

Seriously, you need to slow down because soon you will be chasing your losses, and then you'll be asking me to close your forum account because you want to quit gambling. Don't let it take you that far. Heed the advice of the forum members who know what they are talking about when it comes to chance and variance.
 
Nifty, there NO WAY you can control a slot machine. I've never said that in my post. But there is a WAY on how to increase your chances in winning. I'm not just saying this just the point of saying. Again, There is a WAY To increase the chances in winning slots BUT we can NEVER Control it.

If you saying about experiencing the negative side, ohh you have no idea how much I owe the bank credit cards for the past 4-5 years of my online gambling. I've lost so much that I've decided that I have to find a way to INCREASE my chances to win at slots. I'm so depressed that I nearly broke up in a relationship. Luckily, after much experiences in slot, I can get to pay back all my loans.

I'm not convincing anybody about slots. My only tip is, believe me, I used not to notice it BUT the payout percentage (92% - 95%) is there for a reason. :)


Did this actually happen when you got lucky and won $17K, or did you simply "reinvest" it all into your "system", losing much of it back.

If you just reinvest in order to chase ever higher wins, you will NEVER pay everything back, no matter how much you win.

What was NOT "normal" was your 17K winning streak, with a series of feature rounds so close together, and mostly paying well. What you are suffering NOW is "normal", deposit after deposit, and hundreds of spins between mostly poor paying features.

Many big wins at RTG come from the Random Jackpots, and they can be won at ANY stake. With a different software, Microgaming, the most recent multi million progressive jackpot on their "Mega Moolah" linked slots was won from a mere 50c bet, which is way below the max bet on these games.

Even if you did manage to find a winning strategy, the casino would kick you out before you could take too much money from them, even though they are more than happy to take from you as much as they can.

I have been playing since 2004 online, and since the 1970's on UK "Fruit Machines". Whilst non random Fruit Machines can be beaten by recognising patterns and employing strategies, this CANNOT be said for the online video slots, which unlike Fruit Machines, lack a "memory" and "compensator" in the software, hence the patterns are "not obvious" because they don't actually exist.

What you might be seeing are software glitches that produce pattern like outputs as it tries to present the numerical output from the Random Number Generator (RNG) as a visually recognisable game graphic.

Some players appear to "win all the time" because they are lucky, but often they will disappear from a forum after bragging about a series of big wins, and mostly because they have hit a losing patch and would rather NOT embarrass themselves by admitting their "strategy doesn't work after all".

My dad spent over 50 YEARS looking for patterns in the results from horse racing, and created numerous systems for picking winners. Some worked well for a time, but eventually ALL of them failed, and he scrapped them. In the end, he more or less admitted defeat, realising that the problem was far more complex.

Most successful horse tipsters owe their success to insider knowledge and a bit of corruption, rather than their skills in detecting patterns that can be used to predict future results. Many long term casino winners also have "inside knowledge", often of glitches in the software, be this the gaming side, or faults in how promotions are administered that make them +EV.

Eventually, you could be FORCED to quit because the banks shut you down due to your debts becoming too great to manage. This will deprive you of your means to deposit other than tiny amounts through non banking channels. You will then no longer be able to chase, and everything will collapse around you. Rather than wait for this to happen, take action NOW, and on YOUR terms, not theirs.
 
Guys, I'm just giving my opinions about me playing the slots. As I always say, I maybe wrong coz I'm new at RTG slots. Nevertheless, I will take advice from Casinomeister and its members. Thanks for the advice you all have given.

For those new slot players, DO NOT take my advice coz there's no such thing as 100% winning strategy to slots. All the best all slot players! Remember have fun!
Always gamble money that you are prepared to lose.
 
Guys, I'm just giving my opinions about me playing the slots. As I always say, I maybe wrong coz I'm new at RTG slots. Nevertheless, I will take advice from Casinomeister and its members. Thanks for the advice you all have given.

For those new slot players, DO NOT take my advice coz there's no such thing as 100% winning strategy to slots. All the best all slot players! Remember have fun!
Always gamble money that you are prepared to lose.

You have said many times that you are new to RTG, but for someone so new you are pretty confident with yourself. Look, no one here is wishing you any ill will, just trying to help you take your money AND RUN!!!!!!! I know all to well about CWC, let me tell you a little story....

Last year on 10/18 I too won over 17k, hit a very big RJ. Was happy as hell. Now we all know that CWC has a cap on weekly payments, but back then you could only withdraw 3500USD in a 7 day period. Well don't know ya know it, the day the last installment was made is the next day EwalletXpress got shut down. I have almost 10 grand in there that I still haven't been able to receive. But that is another story.

So like a happy camper, I was loyal to this group, because I knew for a fact they do pay like clock work. (Even though I was pissed they had a cap on withdrawls, because of this cap is the reason I lost so much money) Deposits made, and many at that, and nothing. I have very little withdrawals from this group now and not had one in over 5 months or so. Hundreds and I mean hundreds of spins, no features and when your lucky enough to get a feature it pays less than your bet or maybe 4x's your bet if your lucky. I do have the all the play logs to prove it. And to boot, yesterday was my birthday and I didn't even get an e-mail saying happy birthday, and this in the only group that I have played at that didn't send a birthday wish. Even casinos that I have not played at in over a year sent me an e-mail wishing me a happy birthday, and even 2 groups that I have had accounts close for atleast 6 months sent me an e-mail wishing me a happy birthday.

Your good luck will run out and I am sure it will, so do yourself a favor, take the money you just won, pay off your credit cards and make micro deposits somewhere else. Because you will be really hard on yourself when your making all deposits at this group and you can't a thing thinking you will win big again. All to often I see complaints on the forums about this group now, so TAKE YOUR MONEY AND RUN LIKE FOREST GUMP!!!!

Just my 2 cents.

LH
 
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This post of yours explains alot.
TopGame slots are mostly VERY low variance, which means they give out lots of small wins and many feautures with relative low payouts.

RTG slots are the opposite, very HIGH variance, you'll get loads of non-paying spins, not many feautures, but the payouts can be very high.
They are also very streaky, you can easily go 400-500 spins without a freespinround, or hit them 5 times within 100 spins.

When I played Topgame in the past, I usually placed bets 5-10 times higher than I do on RTG or Microgaming.

So be careful with RTG games. On high bets they can bankrupt you in the blink of an eye.

I have to add my 2 cents to your post. You are SO RIGHT! when I first started playing RTG a few years ago I kept noticing that free spin features would hit 3 or 4 times in a very short order then nothing. I decided to test this out on several games keeping at the max line but min bet.20 After 4 freespins in less than 30 mins. the games I tested went for 3 HOURS before hitting again. And they all seem to follow this-very streaky indeed!
 
You have said many times that you are new to RTG, but for someone so new you are pretty confident with yourself. Look, no one here is wishing you any ill will, just trying to help you take your money AND RUN!!!!!!! I know all to well about CWC, let me tell you a little story....

Last year on 10/18 I too won over 17k, hit a very big RJ. Was happy as hell. Now we all know that CWC has a cap on weekly payments, but back then you could only withdraw 3500USD in a 7 day period. Well don't know ya know it, the day the last installment was made is the day EwalletXpress got shut down. I ave almost 10 grand in there that I still haven't been able to receive. But that is another story.

So like a happy camper, I was loyal to this group, because I knew for a fact they do pay like clock work. (Even though I was pissed they had a cap on withdrawls, because of this cap is the reason I lost so much money) Deposits made, and many at that, and nothing. I have very little withdrawals from this group now and not had one in over 5 months or so. Hundreds and I mean hundreds of spins, no features and when your lucky enough to get a feature it pays less than your bet or maybe 4x's your bet if your lucky. I do have the all the play logs to prove it. And to boot, yesterday was my birthday and I didn't even get an e-mail saying happy birthday, and this in the only group that I have played at that didn't send a birthday wish. Even casinos that I have not played at in over a year sent me an e-mail wishing me a happy birthday, and even 2 groups that I have had accounts close for atleast 6 months sent me an e-mail wishing me a happy birthday.

Your good luck will run out and I am sure it will, so do yourself a favor, take the money you just won, pay off your credit cards and make micro deposits somewhere else. Because you will be really hard on yourself when your making all deposits at this group and you can't a thing thinking you will win big again. All to often I see complaints on the forums about this group now, so TAKE YOUR MONEY AND RUN LIKE FOREST GUMP!!!!

Just my 2 cents.

LH

Happy belated Birthday!! When mine came this year and they did not contact me-I called them and asked for a freebie. I remember telling the CSR "I have been playing here for X amount of time and no w/d, (at that time) what does a player have to do to get a b'day appreciation chip?" So they gave me one, but we shouldn't have to ask for it.
 
Happy belated Birthday!! When mine came this year and they did not contact me-I called them and asked for a freebie. I remember telling the CSR "I have been playing here for X amount of time and no w/d, (at that time) what does a player have to do to get a b'day appreciation chip?" So they gave me one, but we shouldn't have to ask for it.

Thank you, I wasn't looking for a free chip, I never ask for one, it is just disappointing when casinos that I don't even have an account with anymore can e-mail me and this group can't. Little appreciation stuff like that goes a long way. Not long enough for me to reopen accounts, lol but for the ones that did go out of their way, it was appreciated.

LH
 
You have said many times that you are new to RTG, but for someone so new you are pretty confident with yourself. Look, no one here is wishing you any ill will, just trying to help you take your money AND RUN!!!!!!! I know all to well about CWC, let me tell you a little story....

Last year on 10/18 I too won over 17k, hit a very big RJ. Was happy as hell. Now we all know that CWC has a cap on weekly payments, but back then you could only withdraw 3500USD in a 7 day period. Well don't know ya know it, the day the last installment was made is the next day EwalletXpress got shut down. I have almost 10 grand in there that I still haven't been able to receive. But that is another story.

So like a happy camper, I was loyal to this group, because I knew for a fact they do pay like clock work. (Even though I was pissed they had a cap on withdrawls, because of this cap is the reason I lost so much money) Deposits made, and many at that, and nothing. I have very little withdrawals from this group now and not had one in over 5 months or so. Hundreds and I mean hundreds of spins, no features and when your lucky enough to get a feature it pays less than your bet or maybe 4x's your bet if your lucky. I do have the all the play logs to prove it. And to boot, yesterday was my birthday and I didn't even get an e-mail saying happy birthday, and this in the only group that I have played at that didn't send a birthday wish. Even casinos that I have not played at in over a year sent me an e-mail wishing me a happy birthday, and even 2 groups that I have had accounts close for atleast 6 months sent me an e-mail wishing me a happy birthday.

Your good luck will run out and I am sure it will, so do yourself a favor, take the money you just won, pay off your credit cards and make micro deposits somewhere else. Because you will be really hard on yourself when your making all deposits at this group and you can't a thing thinking you will win big again. All to often I see complaints on the forums about this group now, so TAKE YOUR MONEY AND RUN LIKE FOREST GUMP!!!!

Just my 2 cents.

LH

I think you're being a bit harsh here.

You won $17k, which is fantastic, and shows that you can win at CWC. However, due to the EWX fiasco you lost $10k (although you did state they paid $3.5k per week so why was there another $6.5k in there?...why didn't you withdraw it to your bank etc?)

I'm struggling to see where CWC did anything wrong. Yes, they pay VIA instalments, and reasonable ones at least, but you knew that before you played no? If you don't like payment via instalments, play at inetbet etc where they pay in full.

I'm not trying to rub it in, I just think that blaming CWC for your misfortunes is unreasonable.
 
I think you're being a bit harsh here.

You won $17k, which is fantastic, and shows that you can win at CWC. However, due to the EWX fiasco you lost $10k (although you did state they paid $3.5k per week so why was there another $6.5k in there?...why didn't you withdraw it to your bank etc?)

I'm struggling to see where CWC did anything wrong. Yes, they pay VIA instalments, and reasonable ones at least, but you knew that before you played no? If you don't like payment via instalments, play at inetbet etc where they pay in full.

I'm not trying to rub it in, I just think that blaming CWC for your misfortunes is unreasonable.

Also, at that time, ACH and wires were still available, correct? So I agree that it is unreasonable to put the blame on CWC.
 
I think you're being a bit harsh here.

You won $17k, which is fantastic, and shows that you can win at CWC. However, due to the EWX fiasco you lost $10k (although you did state they paid $3.5k per week so why was there another $6.5k in there?...why didn't you withdraw it to your bank etc?)

I'm struggling to see where CWC did anything wrong. Yes, they pay VIA instalments, and reasonable ones at least, but you knew that before you played no? If you don't like payment via instalments, play at inetbet etc where they pay in full.

I'm not trying to rub it in, I just think that blaming CWC for your misfortunes is unreasonable.

Honestly, I cant see Lori blaming CWC. She only stated facts and she did state that the lost $10k is another story. She only relayed this after more than a year and is not making a big fuss out of it. The only thing she is unhappy about is the absence of a b'day chip which loyal customers expect but do not necessarily receive.
 
No.....you have increased your VARIANCE not your chances.

I'm telling you now..... you might get to pay off all your credit cards while variance is on your side, but she is a cruel mistress and she will take it all back and more. If your method is a sure winner, then someone smarter than you would have discovered it years ago and their wouldn't be a casino left on earth.

What is even more worrying, is that you obviously have/had a serious gambling problem, and you think the way to deal with it is to place higher bets with higher variance?????

Any newbies who are reading.....DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME

This is probably the best post and most caring post I have ever seen from Nifty.....I'm serious here. While it might seem brutal, he is absolutely right! Years ago when Casino-On-Net (888) first hit the scene, I would play with absolute reckless abandon, using credit cards and sometimes losing great sums of money, but, I learned to chase losses with bigger deposits and would often times pull myself out of it, in fact, for about a year straight I did this and would have horrendous losses followed by monster wins. I remember the day I deposited the last $500 I had left on one of my credit cards. That was my answer to the $3000 I had lost the previous day. I hit a $2500 jackpot on a slot, then went on to play blackjack. I was ramp betting. I would bet $25 and if I won I'd up it to $50. If I lost I'd drop the bet to $50 but as long as I kept winning my hands I would ratchet up $25 more. I got on an incredible roll and managed to take that $3000 up to over $22,000 in a matter of a few hours. I cashed out, received all my money from them and even had the self discipline while the funds were being transferred to my bank account.

My credit cards were paid off at last! I enjoyed some of my freedom from debt, even taking a fishing trip for 10 days. When I returned there was a new promo offer and I quickly jumped right back in with a deposit......and lost it. I continued to make deposits until I was up to my eyeballs in debt again. I stopped gambling for a long time and it took me a lot of hard work to pay back my debts. It seemed I could no longer win. Lesson learned about using credit to gamble.

Nowdays, as I have posted before, most of my best wins come from smaller deposits. I only deposit what is not needed to survive, will not affect my ability to pay my bills, etc. If I make $150 deposit these days, that's a lot for me, unless I am well ahead. The bottom line is I do not borrow money to gamble. I either gamble smaller amounts or when betting larger amounts it's from money I have won.
 
Your post is right up there with Nifty's, IMO. Well said, and I am so glad you were able to learn this lesson without going all the way down the tubes, like so many have done. It is so hard to learn to gamble within your means for many folks, you go into a fog state, positively knowing you will turn it around. But....the odds are not in your favor, ever.

It needs to be fun, a little daring, but always stay within your means. It's easy to keep going when you are on the winning swing. The hardest thing to do is quit when things are not going your way. Very, very hard. I think all gamblers have had to fight that urge to chase.





This is probably the best post and most caring post I have ever seen from Nifty.....I'm serious here. While it might seem brutal, he is absolutely right! Years ago when Casino-On-Net (888) first hit the scene, I would play with absolute reckless abandon, using credit cards and sometimes losing great sums of money, but, I learned to chase losses with bigger deposits and would often times pull myself out of it, in fact, for about a year straight I did this and would have horrendous losses followed by monster wins. I remember the day I deposited the last $500 I had left on one of my credit cards. That was my answer to the $3000 I had lost the previous day. I hit a $2500 jackpot on a slot, then went on to play blackjack. I was ramp betting. I would bet $25 and if I won I'd up it to $50. If I lost I'd drop the bet to $50 but as long as I kept winning my hands I would ratchet up $25 more. I got on an incredible roll and managed to take that $3000 up to over $22,000 in a matter of a few hours. I cashed out, received all my money from them and even had the self discipline while the funds were being transferred to my bank account.

My credit cards were paid off at last! I enjoyed some of my freedom from debt, even taking a fishing trip for 10 days. When I returned there was a new promo offer and I quickly jumped right back in with a deposit......and lost it. I continued to make deposits until I was up to my eyeballs in debt again. I stopped gambling for a long time and it took me a lot of hard work to pay back my debts. It seemed I could no longer win. Lesson learned about using credit to gamble.

Nowdays, as I have posted before, most of my best wins come from smaller deposits. I only deposit what is not needed to survive, will not affect my ability to pay my bills, etc. If I make $150 deposit these days, that's a lot for me, unless I am well ahead. The bottom line is I do not borrow money to gamble. I either gamble smaller amounts or when betting larger amounts it's from money I have won.
 
I think you're being a bit harsh here.

You won $17k, which is fantastic, and shows that you can win at CWC. However, due to the EWX fiasco you lost $10k (although you did state they paid $3.5k per week so why was there another $6.5k in there?...why didn't you withdraw it to your bank etc?)

I'm struggling to see where CWC did anything wrong. Yes, they pay VIA instalments, and reasonable ones at least, but you knew that before you played no? If you don't like payment via instalments, play at inetbet etc where they pay in full.

I'm not trying to rub it in, I just think that blaming CWC for your misfortunes is unreasonable.

Yes, it took over a month to get all my winnings, plus I had another cashout pending at one other of their casinos so that decreased an installment and with EWX you have to request the money to be sent to your bank that takes a few days and then I would have to wait 7 days to get my next installment then request another withdrawal etc. But like I said, I still went back like a happy camper. Yes I did know that they paid installments, but because I had deposited with EWX I had to withdraw that way. I did try to make other arrangements for payment but everything came back with the same answer, I had to withdraw they same way I made my deposit. So no there was not any other option for me to get my winnings.

No Chu- I wasn't expecting a free chip, I don't ever expect one and I never ask for one. Was just disappointed that other groups could manage an e-mail wishing me a happy birthday and this group could not. I don't think that after 2 years of being a loyal customer and getting one the previous year was alot to ask for. Working with the public for 21 years it is the little things that one does to show your customers a little appreciation, and that is what makes one place stand out from antoher. In this case, it is the opposite, it is what they have not done that makes this group stand out from the rest.

LH
 

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