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Hyper-Wins Screenshots - 10,000x Plus NOT BONUS BUYS!

neon claws said:
Wtf just happened
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Two symbols (blue diamonds and odal rune(?) ) both got connected to all four multiplier wilds.

Basically a bit like getting four jars in Jammin Jars built up to 9x, 9x, 8x and 6x and then having them all four of them connect
to two different symbols.
 
Steviedoo said:
Have you got any money from them?
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Hello.
Yes, I get 500 euros every day on a bitcoin wallet (except for a few days when they had technical problems).
In total, since March 1, 2021, I have received withdrawals 61 times (30,500 euros).
Such small withdrawal limits do not suit me.
But there's nothing I can do. They have such rules.. I'll have to wait patiently.
 
mainart said:
Hello.
Yes, I get 500 euros every day on a bitcoin wallet (except for a few days when they had technical problems).
In total, since March 1, 2021, I have received withdrawals 61 times (30,500 euros).
Such small withdrawal limits do not suit me.
But there's nothing I can do. They have such rules.. I'll have to wait patiently.
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At least they’re paying you.
 
Saw streamers played this game,then tried and hit it!
Awesome game!
 

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So its lunchtime no zoom meeting til 3. What is a fella to do except to buy a few money train 2 bonuses. 2k profit at lunch and money withdrawn safely away from my trigger finger :laugh:

The collector/payer arrived at 440x so paid out almost 9,500x in one shot.
Total win just crept past 10,400x.

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Kenji85 said:
So its lunchtime no zoom meeting til 3. What is a fella to do except to buy a few money train 2 bonuses. 2k profit at lunch and money withdrawn safely away from my trigger finger :laugh:

The collector/payer arrived at 440x so paid out almost 9,500x in one shot.
Total win just crept past 10,400x.

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Thats a few quid to invest in Galway and Goodwood :D
 
dave1888 said:
@Kenji85 I hate to break it to you but this doesn't count as 10,000x + if you bought it. how much is it on 20p to buy? £16-18? It's a pet hate of mine imho it doesnt count as the x win if you bought it.. great win though!
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Totally get it. I agree with you to an extent.
But tell how many times you've pumped a game for 100 or 150 spins or more before landing a bonus so you could easily be down the 100x or more cost of a bonus buy before landing it so much of a muchness in that regard.

So yes you are correct it was 20euro to buy so only 100x the bonus buy.

If other people feel similar I'll just delete it.
 
Kenji85 said:
Totally get it. I agree with you to an extent.
But tell how many times you've pumped a game for 100 or 150 spins or more before landing a bonus so you could easily be down the 100x or more cost of a bonus buy before landing it so much of a muchness in that regard.

So yes you are correct it was 20euro to buy so only 100x the bonus buy.

If other people feel similar I'll just delete it.
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The thread creator went nuts about a 1p bet on thunderstruck yielding 30,000x and said it didn't count because he wasn't using all paylines. Just trying to save you aggro from him and others lol.. Tbh MT2 costs me way more than 100x my stake to bonus try 3-400 spins even then not guaranteed to be great.
 
dunover said:
Was that 189.42x using the 90x stake feature buy or a genuine 17048x on a 30p stake, because if it was it doesn't belong here! Being a streamer, I'm guessing the latter but hopefully I'm wrong, please tell me I am!!
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Does it matter? It is still a great win thought.
 
Blackbird said:
Ah my mistake maybe I thought it calculate by bet size $0.30 not for feature buy bonus cost. It should still be 17048x but then I am not sure
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Well you use the betsize to calculate how many x stake the win is.
But if you bought the bonus, your stake for that round is not $0.30, its $27 in this case (90x the betsize shown)

An example of 2 rounds, one normal and one using a 100x bonus buy.

Stake used €1 - total win €1000
Stake used €100 (bonus buy) - total win €1000

Its pretty clear that the first round is a 1000x stake win, and the second round is a 10x stake win.
Some people insist that they are both 1000x stake wins, those people are wrong.


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Jono777 said:
Don't get why this debate crops up again and again, if fucking bonus buys never appeared all of this could (and should) have been avoided!

Return / cost = X - simple!
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get you, coming here and baffling us with your complicated maths stuff, like division and equal signs .
 
dunover said:
Was that 189.42x using the 90x stake feature buy or a genuine 17048x on a 30p stake, because if it was it doesn't belong here! Being a streamer, I'm guessing the latter but hopefully I'm wrong, please tell me I am!!
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It was a bonus buy, but I don't think there is any difference between bonus buy and normal spinning.

Cost of any specific bonus must be calculated as:

("starting balance" - "balance when you hit a bonus round") / (bet size)

For example, if you opened Iron Bank with $1000 balance, played $1 bets and hit a bonus when your balance was $800, your total bonus cost is:

(1000-800) / 1 = 200x which is more expensive than guaranteed buy of 100x

Of course, you can get back to back bonuses, or a lot of bonuses within small number of spins, but in the long run the average will be the same.

Buying a bonus will guarantee you certain amount of bonuses according to balance you have.

Good old RTG slots even have Feature Guarantee, when you hit a bonus after certain amount of spins.
 
If you are playing $1 spins, the cost/stake for every round you play is $1.
So that is what you use when calculating how many x stake a spin returns.
Nobody is trying to calculate what the average return of 200 separate spins is, so it doesnt matter if you are $200 down when you hit the bonus, if a spin returns $1000 and your stake was $1 , then that is a 1000x stake win.

Starting balance really has nothing to do with it when calculating what a spin returns in terms of x stake.

Using your example, i could start with $100 doing $1 spins and after some good basegame i hit the bonus when my balance is $250
The bonus then returns 0x stake, does this mean the bonus should be counted as a 150x win because im 150x up from earlier?
You see how this makes no sense at all, right?


Its so simple, just like Jono explained with his fancy math symbols.
Return / cost = X (this is used for both normal spins and bonus buys)

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SlotMonster said:
It was a bonus buy, but I don't think there is any difference between bonus buy and normal spinning.
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The reason they cannot be worked out that way is most games feature buys are NOT the same as a normal stake bonus in the first place.

Many games use a different math model on the normal game compared to bonus buy games, your not for example paying to skip an average amount of games to trigger the bonus, its a separate math model.

Therefore IMO and many others on here, this is a 189x stake, which is still an impressive win, when you consider it a stand alone win/buy.
 
SlotMonster said:
It was a bonus buy, but I don't think there is any difference between bonus buy and normal spinning.

Cost of any specific bonus must be calculated as:

("starting balance" - "balance when you hit a bonus round") / (bet size)

For example, if you opened Iron Bank with $1000 balance, played $1 bets and hit a bonus when your balance was $800, your total bonus cost is:

(1000-800) / 1 = 200x which is more expensive than guaranteed buy of 100x

Of course, you can get back to back bonuses, or a lot of bonuses within small number of spins, but in the long run the average will be the same.

Buying a bonus will guarantee you certain amount of bonuses according to balance you have.

Good old RTG slots even have Feature Guarantee, when you hit a bonus after certain amount of spins.
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The feature returns are contained within the percentage of its RTP allocated by the particular game. Therefore by buying them you are firstly benefiting from a sightly higher RTP than the normal player (on most FB slots) and secondly all your play is designated by RNG values specifically available in the feature itself whereas the normal player is using the complete pool of RNG values, many of which can be 'zero' results unlike the NLC features which always pay something.
The difference in say terms of horse racing would be me picking a single horse and you being able to back every single one in the race - you'll win something every time unlike me, and then you would profit only when say there were 15 horses in the race and the winner paid 16-1 or better.
The whole point of the hyper and mega wins threads or show me the money screenshots is the rarity of them, the huge returns in relation to stake and how extraordinarily rare they are for the normal player as opposed to bonus buyers who slash those massive odds against by eliminating 99.5% of the basic stake wins everyone else would use. It's chalk and cheese, check out the CoffeeGounds comments and see how many normal players have the same opinion. Because streaming channels rely on sensationalism they will of course make out that the win is huge-x-stake. On here we don't as we have no vested interest in misleading our members and encouraging ridiculously irresponsible stakes.

I'd also guess the huge majority of casino deposits by real players wouldn't even cover the cost of a single bonus buy anyway, so it's hardly fair comparing streaming buys with players who grind the game out so when these big wins land, they have some kind of context.
There is a winner screenshots thread each month which has no rules as such, just big or unusual wins regardless of stakes which yours certainly is, but I'd ask you not to put them in the Show me the money, mega or hyper threads in future if they are gained via FB's!
 
At the end of the day does it really matter? Splitting hairs. A win is a win. All a feature buy does is blast away a certain % of your bankroll away in return for a guaranteed bonus. That’s essentially what spinning manually for a bonus achieves anyway…just dressed up with interim gameplay.

Never understood the knicker twisting to be honest.
 
dunover said:
The feature returns are contained within the percentage of its RTP allocated by the particular game. Therefore by buying them you are firstly benefiting from a sightly higher RTP than the normal player (on most FB slots) and secondly all your play is designated by RNG values specifically available in the feature itself whereas the normal player is using the complete pool of RNG values, many of which can be 'zero' results unlike the NLC features which always pay something.
The difference in say terms of horse racing would be me picking a single horse and you being able to back every single one in the race - you'll win something every time unlike me, and then you would profit only when say there were 15 horses in the race and the winner paid 16-1 or better.
The whole point of the hyper and mega wins threads or show me the money screenshots is the rarity of them, the huge returns in relation to stake and how extraordinarily rare they are for the normal player as opposed to bonus buyers who slash those massive odds against by eliminating 99.5% of the basic stake wins everyone else would use. It's chalk and cheese, check out the CoffeeGounds comments and see how many normal players have the same opinion. Because streaming channels rely on sensationalism they will of course make out that the win is huge-x-stake. On here we don't as we have no vested interest in misleading our members and encouraging ridiculously irresponsible stakes.

I'd also guess the huge majority of casino deposits by real players wouldn't even cover the cost of a single bonus buy anyway, so it's hardly fair comparing streaming buys with players who grind the game out so when these big wins land, they have some kind of context.
There is a winner screenshots thread each month which has no rules as such, just big or unusual wins regardless of stakes which yours certainly is, but I'd ask you not to put them in the Show me the money, mega or hyper threads in future if they are gained via FB's!
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Why not make a new thread in the screenshot section and call it Buy In Wins or something ?
 
*shrugs*
I barely read the general winners screenshots threads monthly but enjoy checking in the 1000x and 10,000x threads for monster hits
I'm more for seeing actual real 1000x (+) wins - if you spin it for a buck and got 1000x, you got 1000x win....if you paid 100 bucks and win 1k, you only got 10x your bet, and imo belongs in the general winners thread
 
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Kroffe said:
Its obviously just splitting hairs, but at the same time, whats the point in having separate threads for 1000x-3000x-10 000x etc if we are just going to mix the wins anyway.
And you know what happens without rules.

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We only have to look at what happened to @mcgameboy when he posted April winners in the September thread; he went insane and i'm not sure he's really been the same since.
 
The Viking said:
Why not make a new thread in the screenshot section and call it Buy In Wins or something ?
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Exactly what I meant to do after that last reply earlier. We could do with one. :thumbsup:
 

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