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[NapoleonCasino]

Hahaha, that made me laugh .....I heard such statements countless times only to then find out in the end that there is a connection. Do you want me to do some more digging to find the exact details? FYI, this was not a quick analysis as I looked at Radon B.V. and Betconstruct in the past and I stand by my words that there is some connection that goes further than just operating on their platform. Maybe ask your boss to explain it to you.

More red flags are raised when a casino states exactly that.... "NO connection whatsoever, they have nothing to do with us". Yeah, right!

Yes, please - do so!






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[NapoleonCasino]

Hahaha, that made me laugh .....I heard such statements countless times only to then find out in the end that there is a connection. Do you want me to do some more digging to find the exact details? FYI, this was not a quick analysis as I looked at Radon B.V. and Betconstruct in the past and I stand by my words that there is some connection that goes further than just operating on their platform. Maybe ask your boss to explain it to you.

More red flags are raised when a casino states exactly that.... "NO connection whatsoever, they have nothing to do with us". Yeah, right!

Yes, please - do so!






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Dear Harry,

We understand you are the senior member on this forum. We do appreciate your worm welcome-)))


Besides, we do appreciate that you love this forum so much that you are replying to our posts or other people posts on this forum almost right away. I wish you can make money on every reply you make-))

Anyway, we reply to your suggestion right away with appreciation on pointing out that our daily withdrawal limit is low, infect we replied and mentioned that we will remove withdrawal limitations because of your suggestions. Because we care about players opinions.

But then, this was not enough for you. You jump to license issue.

Curacao license?
What is the issue about it?
There are 1000 of casinos and businesses licensed in this region.
A lot of casinos operating with such a license are very popular. Most of the time, it all depends on what regions casino operates as well as other things.

If you have bad experience with one casino with Curacao license, it doesn’t mean that now, all casinos with Curacao license are bad. It’s like If you purchased a new German car and engine broke, doesn’t mean that all Germans cars are bad.

 

[Jono777]

Can't wait for the reply to this one.............

 

[Tirilej]

Dear Harry,

We understand you are the senior member on this forum. We do appreciate your worm welcome-)))


Besides, we do appreciate that you love this forum so much that you are replying to our posts or other people posts on this forum almost right away. I wish you can make money on every reply you make-))

Anyway, we reply to your suggestion right away with appreciation on pointing out that our daily withdrawal limit is low, infect we replied and mentioned that we will remove withdrawal limitations because of your suggestions. Because we care about players opinions.

But then, this was not enough for you. You jump to license issue.

Curacao license?
What is the issue about it?
There are 1000 of casinos and businesses licensed in this region.
A lot of casinos operating with such a license are very popular. Most of the time, it all depends on what regions casino operates as well as other things.

If you have bad experience with one casino with Curacao license, it doesn’t mean that now, all casinos with Curacao license are bad. It’s like If you purchased a new German car and engine broke, doesn’t mean that all Germans cars are bad.

Did you miss what Casinomeister posted earlier in this thread? You better read this before you post anything more and expect us to take you serious. https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/faq.php?faq=memberships#faq_igamingrep

Then I also suggest you read up about a little more such as what a Curacao license mean for us players. You've definately come to the right place if you want to learn things, but not if it is to promote your casino.


Edit: Before you appreciate someones worm welcome you might should look up what the word worm means

 

[dunover]

Dear Harry,

We understand you are the senior member on this forum. We do appreciate your worm welcome-)))


Besides, we do appreciate that you love this forum so much that you are replying to our posts or other people posts on this forum almost right away. I wish you can make money on every reply you make-))

Anyway, we reply to your suggestion right away with appreciation on pointing out that our daily withdrawal limit is low, infect we replied and mentioned that we will remove withdrawal limitations because of your suggestions. Because we care about players opinions.

But then, this was not enough for you. You jump to license issue.

Curacao license?
What is the issue about it?
There are 1000 of casinos and businesses licensed in this region.
A lot of casinos operating with such a license are very popular. Most of the time, it all depends on what regions casino operates as well as other things.

If you have bad experience with one casino with Curacao license, it doesn’t mean that now, all casinos with Curacao license are bad. It’s like If you purchased a new German car and engine broke, doesn’t mean that all Germans cars are bad.

And 90% aren't worth depositing yesterday's meals in, let alone money. And 90% of rogues have their worthless license. Yes, I know some fantastic sites like Videoslots originally started with the Cup-o-cocoa license, but they subsequently obtained licenses in proper jurisdictions. The problem with the worthless Curacao license is the fact it's a corrupt state full of criminals and they have no viable gambling infrastructure such as sanctions on rogues for ripping players off etc. In fact they are so shite they don't even revoke the licenses of casinos caught offering fake Netent and Novo slots, so how can you expect anybody to take a Curacao license seriously? It's such a corrupt filthy place even Dutch MP's have been wanting investigations into their gambling carry-ons.

OK, under your fantastic Curacao license, do you have to keep player deposits in separate accounts from your business, to protect them like you would wth a UKGC license???

 

[Nicola]

LOL this thread

Willingly hand over my personal details and debit card numbers to a Curacao only-licensed casino

Apart from (as mentioned above) with unlicensed games, can you imagine how many third parties are sold personal information and how securely they handle this data.

 

[DreamRJ]

Gets Popcorn Out nomnomnom

 

[ricky]

the rep seems suprisingly competent

maybe a con artist or maybe really trying to start a new casino

Anyway you guys need a better license

 

[dunover]

the rep seems suprisingly competent

maybe a con artist or maybe really trying to start a new casino

Anyway you guys need a better license

The rep is hopelessly naïve and has got an off-the-shelf casino, badly translated etc.

That doesn't mean they are inherently dishonest or intending to shaft us, they may be genuinely trying to learn from us, and improve the product along the lines of our expectations.

But one serious error is trying to justify and big-up a Cup-o-cocoa license, worth as much as a crack addict's promise.

 

[Dinahnana]

The rep is hopelessly naïve and has got an off-the-shelf casino, badly translated etc.

That doesn't mean they are inherently dishonest or intending to shaft us, they may be genuinely trying to learn from us, and improve the product along the lines of our expectations.

But one serious error is trying to justify and big-up a Cup-o-cocoa license, worth as much as a crack addict's promise.

I dunno there are some promises that crack addicts keep in order to get their fix

I agree with the other posters. If this casino was serious then they ought to have a license from a stronger licensing authority. Personally I am staying far far away from this casino. No offence to the rep.

 

[dunover]

I dunno there are some promises that crack addicts keep in order to get their fix

I agree with the other posters. If this casino was serious then they ought to have a license from a stronger licensing authority. Personally I am staying far far away from this casino. No offence to the rep.

Not necessarily - remember some of our stalwarts here at CM started solely with a Cup-o-cocoa license but then progressed when required to obtaining a proper one for a respected jurisdiction, thus reinforcing their intent to grow their business fairly and by the book. A Curacao license is cheap and nasty, worthless, much like your first car at 17/18 when full comp insurance is unobtainable and what you do get is hellishly expensive.

Roll on a few years, you're working and promoted maybe and you now have the means to buy and insure a far better one.

 

[Dinahnana]

Not necessarily - remember some of our stalwarts here at CM started solely with a Cup-o-cocoa license but then progressed when required to obtaining a proper one for a respected jurisdiction, thus reinforcing their intent to grow their business fairly and by the book. A Curacao license is cheap and nasty, worthless, much like your first car at 17/18 when full comp insurance is unobtainable and what you do get is hellishly expensive.

Roll on a few years, you're working and promoted maybe and you now have the means to buy and insure a far better one.

I would wait then until this casino gets a promotion and a shiny new car then before I ever play there. My instinct about this casino though tells me to stay away. Only time will tell if this is a good casino or not.

 

[dunover]

I would wait then until this casino gets a promotion and a shiny new car then before I ever play there. My instinct about this casino though tells me to stay away. Only time will tell if this is a good casino or not.

Fair enough - I'm certainly not encouraging ANYBODY to deposit there because I certainly wouldn't myself, same as you. But you never know, as you say they may prove over time to be OK. Everyone has to start somewhere, but the alleged associations they have, made earlier in the thread, are what concern me.

 

[ThePOGG]

Just found this thread due to some associated research and wanted to offer some comments.

Specifically a poster highlighted that Napoleon's is already a casino group in the UK. Ordinarily I'd consider this harmless - the name is household around the world due to the historic figure. Not uncommon or worrying that multiple groups would gravitate towards it. However, this stops looking quite so innocent when you start looking at the other operators that are/have been associated with Radon B.V. and Alpha Entertainment B.V. Start with MARSbet. Huge confectionery brand. But there are associations with the God and the planet so again not massively problematic. How about the now defunct AVONbet. Getting harder to explain now. And the clincher for me is the now defunct ADOBEt. This is a group that, in my opinion, seem to gravitate towards parasitical branding, piggybacking on big established brands presumably in an effort to rank in some fashion for high traffic terms.

When seen alongside the above the choice of Napoleon's no longer seems so innocent.

TP

P.S. In the name of full disclosure I should acknowledge that MarsBet did issue some of the funniest legal threats we've ever received ~2 years ago, stating "We took a legal action to that affiliate. If you continue sending mails because of this affiliate customer, then we should add you on this case." - yup, that's right, contacting them to try and discuss a complaint is apparently sound ground for legal action. Perhaps we would have strong views that operators associated with this particular group should be avoided by both players and affiliates.

 

[lockinlove]

£1000 a day is 2.4x as much - hardy poorer. I withdrew 4.7k in one go from Spin And Win so I'm not sure it is even applied anyway.

And a major huge fuck-off difference is that they are UKGC Licensed and not 'approved' by the fat guy in the jungle hut - you'll get paid which I think most agree is the major confidence factor.

Maybe we should mention the MG Viper casinos that have a snide '6 x deposit cash-out limit' when you take a SUB - promoted widely not too far from here and ahem, you know....

I think the general sentiment of this thread is that it's a bad combination - both shit terms and a shit licensing jurisdiction.

I don't promote any site without a UK license, so please don't infer I encourage anybody to play at Curacao-only shithouses, because I certainly do not. I would confidently predict your sites have other terms I haven't mentioned above that many wouldn't approve of, but they are what they are.

Just because they are UK licensed doesnt mean end all. You promote progress play for god knows what reason. 50x wager, phantom bonus and 5x max cashout. I have a hard time believing you would play there. You dont list those terms on your site either. I have a hard time believing a single person would be ok depositing $20+$20 with $1000 wager, bonus removed and max win of $100.

You also list games that arent even on the site. Sometimes I deposit small to play Jurassic Park. I searched it to make sure it was there. Nope. But you list it on your site that it does.

I almost deposited under one of your links because it doesnt state it in the terms which is where I go first. But in small print on the homepage it does. So I am glad I noticed or else I would have been a tad pissed off.

Sorry for the old bump just noticed the date of the post. But what I say still stands

 

[dunover]

Just because they are UK licensed doesnt mean end all. You promote progress play for god knows what reason. 50x wager, phantom bonus and 5x max cashout. I have a hard time believing you would play there. You dont list those terms on your site either. I have a hard time believing a single person would be ok depositing $20+$20 with $1000 wager, bonus removed and max win of $100.

You also list games that arent even on the site. Sometimes I deposit small to play Jurassic Park. I searched it to make sure it was there. Nope. But you list it on your site that it does.

I almost deposited under one of your links because it doesnt state it in the terms which is where I go first. But in small print on the homepage it does. So I am glad I noticed or else I would have been a tad pissed off.

Sorry for the old bump just noticed the date of the post. But what I say still stands

No worries - that's because of the UKGC again. They insist vital terms are 'one click away' so casinos tend to put them on the landing page as you saw, which is good. Some games are also IP sensitive - in the UK where I reference my scripts to, a game may be available but not to some other geos. This is why I am moving towards simply listing the software providers and removing game references each time I need to go and update a casino, so eventually they'll have no games listed. Some casinos often add games that I couldn't see and remove ones I could, swap them around periodically and don't offer them all at once at any given time. Although JP is a big name game so I would be surprised if that occurred here.

 

[dunover]

Just found this thread due to some associated research and wanted to offer some comments.

Specifically a poster highlighted that Napoleon's is already a casino group in the UK. Ordinarily I'd consider this harmless - the name is household around the world due to the historic figure. Not uncommon or worrying that multiple groups would gravitate towards it. However, this stops looking quite so innocent when you start looking at the other operators that are/have been associated with Radon B.V. and Alpha Entertainment B.V. Start with MARSbet. Huge confectionery brand. But there are associations with the God and the planet so again not massively problematic. How about the now defunct AVONbet. Getting harder to explain now. And the clincher for me is the now defunct ADOBEt. This is a group that, in my opinion, seem to gravitate towards parasitical branding, piggybacking on big established brands presumably in an effort to rank in some fashion for high traffic terms.

When seen alongside the above the choice of Napoleon's no longer seems so innocent.

TP

P.S. In the name of full disclosure I should acknowledge that MarsBet did issue some of the funniest legal threats we've ever received ~2 years ago, stating "We took a legal action to that affiliate. If you continue sending mails because of this affiliate customer, then we should add you on this case." - yup, that's right, contacting them to try and discuss a complaint is apparently sound ground for legal action. Perhaps we would have strong views that operators associated with this particular group should be avoided by both players and affiliates.

Haha - "We haven't got enough funds to pay players more than 50 bucks a month but have tens of thousands for overseas lawyers..."

 

[lockinlove]

No worries - that's because of the UKGC again. They insist vital terms are 'one click away' so casinos tend to put them on the landing page as you saw, which is good. Some games are also IP sensitive - in the UK where I reference my scripts to, a game may be available but not to some other geos. This is why I am moving towards simply listing the software providers and removing game references each time I need to go and update a casino, so eventually they'll have no games listed. Some casinos often add games that I couldn't see and remove ones I could, swap them around periodically and don't offer them all at once at any given time. Although JP is a big name game so I would be surprised if that occurred here.

The jurassic park mistake isnt a big deal, it happens. But I contacted live chat because JP has never been banned and they told me that yes Jurassic Park is not in their games library at all and that if I wanted I could play Jurassic World instead. So you may want to remove that game from your list of games available in progress play casinos.

 

[ThePOGG]

The jurassic park mistake isnt a big deal, it happens. But I contacted live chat because JP has never been banned and they told me that yes Jurassic Park is not in their games library at all and that if I wanted I could play Jurassic World instead. So you may want to remove that game from your list of games available in progress play casinos.

To be fair, we did try for a time to list the specific games each casino offered. If you list any moderate number of casinos it very quickly becomes totally impossible. You would need a team of people working full time and it'd still end up full of mistakes. We gave that up a long time ago. We list casinos alongside games from the software providers they use. So, having sat on the other side of the table, expecting any affiliate to have a 100% accurate list of the games offered at even a dozen casinos is likely an unrealistic expectation.

TP

 

[lockinlove]

To be fair, we did try for a time to list the specific games each casino offered. If you list any moderate number of casinos it very quickly becomes totally impossible. You would need a team of people working full time and it'd still end up full of mistakes. We gave that up a long time ago. We list casinos alongside games from the software providers they use. So, having sat on the other side of the table, expecting any affiliate to have a 100% accurate list of the games offered at even a dozen casinos is likely an unrealistic expectation.

TP

Sure I agree. Problem is dont list a game that has never existed with a casino group ever as it being available there. And I dont think its unrealistic. It seems pretty simple to me. Why list 10 games in your list that the casino offers when it actually doesnt offer the game at all. As dunover said, state the providers and people can check themselves.

You think its fine to list a casino as having bonanza, so you sign up and its not even there? I dont.

 

[ThePOGG]

You think its fine to list a casino as having bonanza, so you sign up and its not even there? I dont.

As a player I can understand you focusing on a single games you like. As an affiliate, and even stripping it back to a dozen different operators, keeping up-to-date with the specific game roaster at each of those operators would require at least a full day's work per week, checking which games that operator still had (that's usually a list running into the mid to high hundreds per operator), updating which geos each game is available in, checking what games providers have quietly discontinued. As an affiliate, and one with a deal of experience these days, this isn't a job that anyone's going to appreciate you for. Would you as a player prefer our service to spend that sort of time on keeping slots lists - which you can check at the operator end with a far higher degree of accuracy than we could manage - up-to-date or invest it in doing something that could be more useful to you? Much like the terms and conditions of a bonus - which affiliate should be making every effort to keep accurate - they do still have to be checked at the operator side to know exactly what the operator is offering.

My local Asda stocks Lego. They and their affiliates advertise that. I might want to check with the specific store whether they have the set I'm looking for in stock though......


TP


P.S. This is also massively off of the point of the thread and my post. Seems like something that could have been dealt with over PM if you feel that strongly about it.

 

[lockinlove]

As a player I can understand you focusing on a single games you like. As an affiliate, and even stripping it back to a dozen different operators, keeping up-to-date with the specific game roaster at each of those operators would require at least a full day's work per week, checking which games that operator still had (that's usually a list running into the mid to high hundreds per operator), updating which geos each game is available in, checking what games providers have quietly discontinued. As an affiliate, and one with a deal of experience these days, this isn't a job that anyone's going to appreciate you for. Would you as a player prefer our service to spend that sort of time on keeping slots lists - which you can check at the operator end with a far higher degree of accuracy than we could manage - up-to-date or invest it in doing something that could be more useful to you? Much like the terms and conditions of a bonus - which affiliate should be making every effort to keep accurate - they do still have to be checked at the operator side to know exactly what the operator is offering.

My local Asda stocks Lego. They and their affiliates advertise that. I might want to check with the specific store whether they have the set I'm looking for in stock though......


TP


P.S. This is also massively off of the point of the thread and my post. Seems like something that could have been dealt with over PM if you feel that strongly about it.

You are missing the point. Promoting that a casino has a certain game in a very short list being advertised is misleading. It was actually me trying to help him out and to make him aware he listed a game that has never been offered on that platform ever.

The entire point of listing those games is because they are popular and attractive to people to sign up and play. When you add a specific slot as eye candy for visitors, that game should actually exist.

I agree it was a bit off topic but if you felt so strongly about it you could have also PM'd me because you have also partaken in derailing this thread by getting involved in a conversation that was most likely over.

 

[ThePOGG]

You are missing the point. Promoting that a casino has a certain game in a very short list being advertised is misleading. It was actually me trying to help him out and to make him aware he listed a game that has never been offered on that platform ever.

I agree it was a bit off topic but if you felt so strongly about it you could have also PM'd me because you have also partaken in derailing this thread by getting involved in a conversation that was most likely over.

hxxps://xxx.facebook.com/progressplay/videos/1437835799829149/ - Progress Play did offer Jurassic Park at one time. The information YOU received was wrong. Perhaps I was just trying to end the conversation to get back to the point.....



TP

 

[lockinlove]

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- Progress Play did offer Jurassic Park at one time. The information YOU received was wrong.



TP

Yeah I saw that. And I asked about it and they said they never ended up adding it.

So keep your eyerolls to yourself . Oh and btw I think you missed the part where I said I was trying to help him out so he didnt advertise something that didnt exist. Somehow you have turned this into..lets see..what did the betat rep call drama today. Oh right a mexican soap opera

Why tell me to go to PM and stop derailing a thread and then carry on with it?

LL

 

[lockinlove]

Just found this thread due to some associated research and wanted to offer some comments.

Specifically a poster highlighted that Napoleon's is already a casino group in the UK. Ordinarily I'd consider this harmless - the name is household around the world due to the historic figure. Not uncommon or worrying that multiple groups would gravitate towards it. However, this stops looking quite so innocent when you start looking at the other operators that are/have been associated with Radon B.V. and Alpha Entertainment B.V. Start with MARSbet. Huge confectionery brand. But there are associations with the God and the planet so again not massively problematic. How about the now defunct AVONbet. Getting harder to explain now. And the clincher for me is the now defunct ADOBEt. This is a group that, in my opinion, seem to gravitate towards parasitical branding, piggybacking on big established brands presumably in an effort to rank in some fashion for high traffic terms.

When seen alongside the above the choice of Napoleon's no longer seems so innocent.

TP

P.S. In the name of full disclosure I should acknowledge that MarsBet did issue some of the funniest legal threats we've ever received ~2 years ago, stating "We took a legal action to that affiliate. If you continue sending mails because of this affiliate customer, then we should add you on this case." - yup, that's right, contacting them to try and discuss a complaint is apparently sound ground for legal action. Perhaps we would have strong views that operators associated with this particular group should be avoided by both players and affiliates.

Just reading this now. I never even got to this post as I didnt even realize this was an old thread.

But are these guys still operating? I know you mention some as defunct but I am curious. I watch streamers on twitch sometimes and keep an eye out who advertises what and it helps me get a feeling what kind of streamer/person they are in regards to who they are playing with or promoting? Some streamers will only play with people like BoB casino or some other questionable ones and then I have friends who will message me and ask..what do you think of such and such group.

And I have never heard of the casinos you mentioned in your above post.