Hate being monitored like a 5 year old

[Luckyscouser45]

Logs into bet365 earlier to this :axeman2::axeman2::axeman2:can anybody tell me if 5k spins in a week is Excessive? Dread going on there again now I know they are monitoring my account it just gets me fuming that I’m being told how many spins I have done bear in mind over the 7 day period most of them spins were trying to get bonanza to bonus :/

 

[Luckyscouser45]

I know they are classed as bets but fuck me how pathetic this has got to stop wouldn’t mind my deposits are quite low on there as well only deposit £10-20 a time :-/

 

[Kroffe]

I wouldnt want to show them the spincount i have on doa some days.

 

[Guntis]

I think it's just an auto-generated message which simply gets send to all of their customers. I reckon nowadays, such site features are "must-have or the-way-to-go" for the UKGC.

 

[Slottery]

Casinos should monitor all players account, all they have their own triggers and then decide when interact with player or take what ever action. You are not alone with account monitoring

 

[goatwack]

Monitoring accounts is what one expects, after all it keeps me safe in the knowledge that they got my back, and care.

Also shows they always have their eye on the ball at all times, should the need arise for them to check play styles or detect fishy betting patterns prior to voiding big wins, in combination with the software provider of course!

But really they can throw stats my way until the cows come home. It's when they utilize those stats to prohibit my gambling is where the problem lies

 

[dealer wins]

Those bloody popups that appear (usually during a feature) drive me insane. I scream at the screen "fuck offfffffff" when they pop up.

 

[mack341]

It seems to be happening all over, loads of nagging with implied accusations re being a problem gambler. I haven't had a spin/bet count relayed to me though, but more general 'activity alerts' and 'do you know you can use our responsible gambling controls' even the day after I lost about a tenner

probably a generic, tick box operation to please the ukgc and convince them they take responsible gambling seriously, all the while most of the games take an hour to get 1 bonus if you're lucky, or games like royal mint which dangle an extra special bonus if you play the game for 5 hours, but it turns out this extra special bonus is 99 times/100 ***t

I hate these new message pop-ups reminding me how much I'm down in a session, every hour, talk about triggering me to chase even more!

 

[paul7388]

Yeah messages can be a pain in the ass.

Opened a game on WH today to get a pop up saying i had been playing for 0 minutes and lost 0 did i want to continue.

Looked at it and decided i didn't want to continue as i was only loading that game to see what it was as was a newer one i had never played lol.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Those bloody popups that appear (usually during a feature) drive me insane. I scream at the screen "fuck offfffffff" when they pop up.

Yeah agree mate the rage it happened other day pop up during bonus and it said you’ve been playing for an hour it kicked me out the game and restarted game bonus was trash as well makes ya wonder lol

 

[Davey86]

Most volatile slots take 5000 bets to bonus
Imagine having a wager requirement the pop up would be something like ‘please try and beat the wager with the least amount of spins possible’ so we don’t have to keep popping up

 

[judgenico]

more nanny state bullshit that just winds me up day after day,how about a function for the rest of us who are quite happy about the control we have over gambling that enables us to turn off the endless messages which quite frankly makes me feel patronized

 

[mina1929]

I don't think these pop up messages help, they cause anger issues instead it seems

 

[Spikie]

Agree with the box ticking exercise, getting automatic emails the next day after playing with PP and Sky Vegas .

I don’t think playing for an hour is excessive. Especially after just going after a bonus which doesn’t appear for 2 hours ....

They should be sending messages to the providers , “the player has spent 2 hours and 2000 spins without a bonus , if you think this is not responsible gambling then please reprogram your games “

 

[sufferinsilence]

It seems to be happening all over, loads of nagging with implied accusations re being a problem gambler. I haven't had a spin/bet count relayed to me though, but more general 'activity alerts' and 'do you know you can use our responsible gambling controls' even the day after I lost about a tenner

probably a generic, tick box operation to please the ukgc and convince them they take responsible gambling seriously, all the while most of the games take an hour to get 1 bonus if you're lucky, or games like royal mint which dangle an extra special bonus if you play the game for 5 hours, but it turns out this extra special bonus is 99 times/100 ***t

I hate these new message pop-ups reminding me how much I'm down in a session, every hour, talk about triggering me to chase even more!

You sound like you need a time-out from slots mate

 

[09237653]

Its getting outrageous isnt it, lost count of the amount of casinos i am done with due to this kinda BS, seems the best thing for quitting gambling in 2020 is actually attempting to gamble..

 

[samdog21]

I here ya getting bored, found new thing Facebook, tons of live bingo, via watch party,you have to join group, most only Canada, Last week spent 60$ won 420$ paid instant via etransfer, same way you buy in. Somthing different anyway. And no kyc lmfao ✌

 

[irish-ranger]

I here ya getting bored, found new thing Facebook, tons of live bingo, via watch party,you have to join group, most only Canada, Last week spent 60$ won 420$ paid instant via etransfer, same way you buy in. Somthing different anyway. And no kyc lmfao ✌

They have started a shit load of bingo groups on bakebook over here which is a fucking nightmare waiting to happen.
I was quizzing my mates wife on how these games work you order the amount of books you want and they have local sellers in the greater Belfast area who deliver to your door (cash on delivery) if you were lucky enough to win they Paid by bank Transfers until they had their bank accounts closed due to anti money laundering.
Now if you win the cash gets delivered to your door this is a fucking nightmare waiting to happen and I suspect could be a nightmare for Facebook for hosting unlicensed gambling.

 

[samdog21]

No you agree when you join it's a gift don't agree no join, when you win a game John so and so congratulations on winning the block bingo game your GIFT of 200$ has been sent, GIFT is how they get around that. ✌

 

[Slottery]

It's not many months ago when it was posted here and discussed quite widely that based on UKGC additional COVID security, all sessions over one hour need to be considered possibly harmful (first version IIRC was to interact with all who reach that one hour but the phrasing was a bit changed as making it mandatory to email, call, send pop-up to all who play one hour would be quite a spamming

 

[greylady]

There was me thinking you were talking about CM

 

[Spikie]

I had an email from Casumo a few days ago , apparently a couple of four hour sessions are enough to get you blocked from depositing until you have replied to their email and they are happy again..

I haven’t deposited there for the last 3 to 4 weeks , so why I got an email a few days ago doesn’t make sense. Also I am well below the monthly deposit limit that they set for me , the same one I didn’t ask for.

I did reply and explained that as a UK player that can’t do bonus buys , a lot of games nowadays could make you play for 2 hours with no bonus . So we would like some fun or reward for the thousands of dead spins.

I haven’t had a reply yet.

Sorry casino fuckers , you can’t have it both ways .

 

[Spikie]

Also streamers with various casinos are allowed to do 8 hour streams , and get match bonuses , yet a customer plays for an hour or more and gets no bonus match, but gets a question about responsibility????????

What a joke.

Is there one rule for paying customers and another for casino promoters ??

I would like to see a fair playing field .

 

[dealer wins]

I would actually prefer something like this to the "we pretend we care" BS that pops up.

 

[Playford7]

It's not many months ago when it was posted here and discussed quite widely that based on UKGC additional COVID security, all sessions over one hour need to be considered possibly harmful (first version IIRC was to interact with all who reach that one hour but the phrasing was a bit changed as making it mandatory to email, call, send pop-up to all who play one hour would be quite a spamming

Sadly this nanny state had to happen.

It was a reaction to years of Wild West behaviour form many casinos, the big ones included.

You have to have regulation where money and offers and the kind of advertising this industry uses.

Sadly it affects real core players aware of terms and conditions and the stunts some rogues use more than some impressionable divvy who watched chip spin £40 on a Monday morning.

The UKGC imo have the balance totally wrong in one sense (no autoplay) (taking a age to spin) is utterly tripe.

Yet ignore streaming (sorry but it’s true) and the false advertising of gambling they Ignore..

The silly twats took ages to get the lock withdrawal for example, and verification before deposit..

Not sure if the £2 limit in the U.K. will become reality, find that hard to work.
But I’d welcome that as rarely I’ve ever gone about it, that said many good players here do and don’t have issues so is it fair to persecute them?

 

[Playford7]

Also streamers with various casinos are allowed to do 8 hour streams , and get match bonuses , yet a customer plays for an hour or more and gets no bonus match, but gets a question about responsibility????????

What a joke.

Is there one rule for paying customers and another for casino promoters ??

I would like to see a fair playing field .

Yes clearly.
Bonus cash 24/7
Fake accounts
Fake money
Better terms than the player..

That shower of soggy wet and smelly bottom feeding reprobates way of income needs stopping or at least regulating, It’s poor form.

 

[Spikie]

The £2 spin would be an issue if the UKGC clamp down , would table games be excluded ?

 

[Playford7]

The £2 spin would be an issue if the UKGC clamp down , would table games be excluded ?

Possibly if they go the way of the cancerous fobty. The fobty in the U.K. years back was just a trial run of online slots.

And now we are here, maybe if you can provide sufficient sow to justify how much or little you can afford per spin then maybe the option of proving that and spinning like a Chinese man in Vegas may be a reality.

 

[Spikie]

Yes clearly.
Bonus cash 24/7
Fake accounts
Fake money
Better terms than the player..

That shower of soggy wet and smelly bottom feeding reprobates way of income needs stopping or at least regulating, It’s poor form.

is their reply to the casino after getting a responsible gambling email “ I work for you “ ?

 

[Playford7]

is their reply to the casino after getting a responsible gambling email “ I work for you “

Basically just pimp me out like a ho and I’ll do as said and told as long as the sign ups losses keep coming in..

* for the record this isn’t all affiliation or if of been away from here a long while back, only the streaming affiliation I have issues with.

Image chip opening a place like this for example...
Promotes genesis
Nektan
Aspire casinos to list a few...

You would need 1000 Max’s on steroids to even attempt to address the complaints they would have, streaming is easy...

Get a bonus and or free cash
Spin a few hours show shocked ugly faces (Mark from here excluded in this)
Spam links to said rogue casinos.

End stream and look forward to the great unwashed whom subscribed to your soul destroying £40 spins at a totally legit casino and cashout thousands (that’s all real)

Give me a break, full lot want sending to hell. (Apart from Mark and chop) sorry if I missed the other good guys.

 

[Kroffe]

Basically just pimp me out like a ho and I’ll do as said and told as long as the sign ups losses keep coming in..

* for the record this isn’t all affiliation or if of been away from here a long while back, only the streaming affiliation I have issues with.

Image chip opening a place like this for example...
Promotes genesis
Nektan
Aspire casinos to list a few...

You would need 1000 Max’s on steroids to even attempt to address the complaints they would have, streaming is easy...

Get a bonus and or free cash
Spin a few hours show shocked ugly faces (Mark from here excluded in this)
Spam links to said rogue casinos.

End stream and look forward to the great unwashed whom subscribed to your soul destroying £40 spins at a totally legit casino and cashout thousands (that’s all real)

Give me a break, full lot want sending to hell. (Apart from Mark and chop) sorry if I missed the other good guys.

Reported for not including me in among the good streamers.

 

[Slottery]

Not sure if the £2 limit in the U.K. will become reality, find that hard to work.
But I’d welcome that as rarely I’ve ever gone about it, that said many good players here do and don’t have issues so is it fair to persecute them?

Wouldn't that be bit sad for you streamer buddies?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I’ve had a few emails from sky recently saying ‘you played for a long time yesterday’ etc etc.

I’ve been playing millionaire for several hours a day for the last week by the way. Another thread on that game in due course.....

But also still being fed within minutes/hours of receiving the above emails are further ones suggesting if I opt in and spin x amount I’ll get a few 10p free spins or be entered into this or that. Along with the numerous betting offers and money back blah blah blah.

It’s shameful really and just goes to prove that deep down they don’t give a fuck.

It’s just a standard email fired out along with the several others you get nearly every day.

Im sure if you wanted to make more of it you could by taking it further. It’s not responsible on their part in the slightest. Here we have a customer whom is punting numerous hours of the day. Let’s remind him of that and then tease and bait him with shitty terrible offers to encourage him to play even more.

Disgusting really.

 

[Slottery]

Casinos should take some more serious action when seein "real" RG signs, these emails (like said above) are just mostly to satisfy regulators that can be shown that possible RG issue is seen and interaction with player have been taken, when especially UKGC Covid additions to player protection took a place, amount of these "interactions" ( using " as not sure how much interaction it is when players keep getting these emails about how to set limits but or some pop ups but mostly in not so severe cases, players is not even asked to reply and confirm he/she is ok with what ever reason "interaction was made) is been expected to increase and it seems it has.

I think it's clear for most that some examples mentioned in this and other threads are not really signs of any bigger problem, but it's important for casino that they can log their interactions and show in audit that we have contacted player. Most of these are really useless and just spamming people mail boxes without really giving deep review of players account and it's history, changes in behaviour and other things which could suggest that somebody maybe is not in full control of gambling.

These accounts who really give clear signs that amounts or time spent is huge, need often some other action than just email that they can set limits, good if player protection teams use their resources there where real problems are and for these non existent "problems" just send email or pop-up to show they have done something as that what regulators demand.

Will add to this thread as well UKGC formal additional interaction guideline due to Covid, this is published for public, casino operators have received bit more detailed versions but here many can find some quite over reactions, like especially this: "Specifically, review your time indicators to capture play in excess of 1 hour as this is a proxy for potential harm."

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[PMKFRUITPRO]

Play in excess of 1hr???

These idiots have never sessioned bonanza have they!!

 

[ZoeP]

Now VS have implemented the 3 second spin rule on PnG Thunderkick etc... it's like the slots aren't even recognizable.

This is not what you call Gambling/Slotting anymore it's more tentative to psychological warfare.

Why has everything gotten worse not better? Why is society regressing not Progressing? Why is any of this BS happening at all? Because it's not for the Benefit of the people but, a select few.

I'm done with Gambling (they) will not see another penny from me, or any of my time again.
No it's not about losing it's about being taken for a Mug.

 

[goatwack]

Yes, I had wondered about that, whilst partaking of Midas Battles merely the other day, ie "Where has my ability to spam this humdrum game to within an inch of its life gone?"

Wasn't really sure how the 3-second rule's implemented, I always assumed there'd be a mandatory delay after the spin had finished (can you imagine), yet clearly it's 'incorporated' into the overall spin duration instead.

So whilst noticeable, if playing at regular default speed, once all the symbols have unveiled and pays issued, I don't particularly lament the change quite yet. But as we know, gambling authorities' reasons for doing this are tenuous at best, and they're only going to meddle further.

Four seconds, five seconds etc, it'll just end up eroding the fun factor right out this pastime, bit like how Frontline has zapped my cats' fleas (little plug there)

 

[Kroffe]

Yes, I had wondered about that, whilst partaking of Midas Battles merely the other day, ie "Where has my ability to spam this humdrum game to within an inch of its life gone?"

Wasn't really sure how the 3-second rule's implemented, I always assumed there'd be a mandatory delay after the spin had finished (can you imagine), yet clearly it's 'incorporated' into the overall spin duration instead.

So whilst noticeable, if playing at regular default speed, once all the symbols have unveiled and pays issued, I don't particularly lament the change quite yet. But as we know, gambling authorities' reasons for doing this are tenuous at best, and they're only going to meddle further.

Four seconds, five seconds etc, it'll just end up eroding the fun factor right out this pastime, bit like how Frontline has zapped my cats' fleas (little plug there)

Its much more noticeable in certain slots/providers.
On megaways you dont notice it at all, and most netents are fine.
Novomatics&Merkur theres a big difference.

Some providers have also implemented it as you say, a 3 sec stop after the spin or before the spin, making the total time closer to 6 seconds.
Those are the worst, by far.

 

[Slottery]

Yes, I had wondered about that, whilst partaking of Midas Battles merely the other day, ie "Where has my ability to spam this humdrum game to within an inch of its life gone?"

Wasn't really sure how the 3-second rule's implemented, I always assumed there'd be a mandatory delay after the spin had finished (can you imagine), yet clearly it's 'incorporated' into the overall spin duration instead.

So whilst noticeable, if playing at regular default speed, once all the symbols have unveiled and pays issued, I don't particularly lament the change quite yet. But as we know, gambling authorities' reasons for doing this are tenuous at best, and they're only going to meddle further.

Four seconds, five seconds etc, it'll just end up eroding the fun factor right out this pastime, bit like how Frontline has zapped my cats' fleas (little plug there)

Could do weekly spins like many lotteries, would be safe and stop impulsive behavior, also people could add whole week budget to one spin and win bigger if being lucky (maybe shouldn't give them any ideas in case somebody is reading these).

 

[Bloatgoat]

The only interest from a casino is more money - they only follow regulations and if they have done their obligation it's good enough.

I mean i recall a losing session of 2k worth of deposits. I had enough of it. But wonderly like 30 minutes after that session getting a "special deposit" email. They watch my account. Their only interest is getting me aboard once again with another deposit plus the bonus terms. the bonus terms esp with 39x wagering requirement is where the money is for them. Even if i won big at that point, i'd still had to wager this a 39x in order to complete. Left / right it was a win for the casino.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Does this mean I can’t bash away my 9p spins on DOA2 anymore?

Or BOD??

Couldn't play either if I had to watch the reels move.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

The thing is though the deposits are small and I do tend to low roll on bet365 go up to 80p now and again but it’s mainly £10-£20 deposits a couple of times in a session. Stupid morons some of the games take thousands of spins to bonus hence why I done 5k bets in a week :axeman2:

 

[ZoeP]

I wonder how many of you have read stuff like this?

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