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Yes, we knew this was coming, but it may interest you as to why it's happened, the full report. Kind of reads "The majority of all respondents from all facets of gambling were against removing auto-play but we weight one GamCare survey above all the rest."

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All very Gradinua-friendly.

Get ready for a real horror show on 31st. October as your finger will be bleeding, cracked.
 

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This will render a lot slots, BGT ones especially, completely unplayable.

It's a ridiculous decision but it's obvious it was going to happen no matter what the surveys said. I don't play slots without autoplay; it's tedious and unenjoyable. Many people will feel the same. As I've said on here plenty of times once the player sets up their deposit limits and so on they should be free to spend their money how they like. Now thanks to a bunch of hand-wringing do-gooders who are determined to protect a bunch of fucking wet-wipes, who cannot control themselves despite being given the choice of whether to use autoplay or not and it coming with plenty of safety options, the whole UK player-base has to suffer.

My advice to players who lose control when using autoplay - don't fucking use it then. Simple.

But these poor delicate souls have to be protected at everyones' expense, turning an enjoyable past-time for many into a chore. Half the players they're doing this for are probably on GAMSTOP and will never gamble again anyway.

Fucking UKGC eh? I wouldn't piss down their throats if their back teeth were on fire.
 

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Not much of an auto play user, never have been really, unless its grinding DoA on minimum bets on occasion.

This being said, I have just read the UKGC report in full and come to only ONE conclusion.

Despite all their stats and figures and "findings" I really cannot see why they bothered with the survey and investigations, reading between the lines tells me one thing and one thing only. They had already made up their minds and were never going to change them, no matter what!

Edit: Great thread title btw!
 

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I do not feel up to reading a ukgc report, but my cynical assumption was it's just so a ukgc bod has something to say to clueless MPs when they meet in a committee room, and ask 'what measures have you taken to combat problem gambling?' it help buys them another 5 years as a unaccountable quango.

However there is the £2 stake limit still to consider, if that is not happening perhaps this autoplay removal is in effect a counter proposal/safeguard?
 

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How much have we paid them to come up with this pile of crap which will achieve absolutely nothing.
All the research they have done shows there is overwhelming opposition to this ban but they were always going to do it.
Now this is settled you can bet the £2 stake will be next,got to string that out for bit longer to keep the funding coming in,
all these surveys take a lot of time and money
 
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Never used one myself, so not sure how good they work.
People seem to use them to click in games they have minimized.
Like to farm stuff in minecraft while they do other things on the computer.
So i guess it should work just the same to have it click in a minimized/inactive chrome tab.

Seems to be alot of different ones available, so might need some research to find out which one is most suitable for slotting.
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Been using autoclick for years, the only problem is that you cant reliably set the required number of games due to lag
and game animations changing the game cycle, the clicker will just carry on doing its clicking.
 

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Yeah, no win/loss limit is not that great.
But you can set number of clicks, so you can decide an upper limit of say 50 spins before the auto clicker stops.
So even if it might be a bit hard to control exactly how many spins are being done due to lag&win animations, atleast you have an upper limit.
 

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Auto clicker is pretty pointless for me. I have dual screens and like to have the slot running on one whilst chatting to people/watching things/misc on the other.

This auto play ban just pushes gambling even further into a solitary habit is you literally cannot focus on anything else at the same time. It’s just complete lunacy of an idea.

The UKGC have got this all wrong IMO but they don’t seem like the type of outfit that would ever admit a mistake and backtrack on an idea.
 

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Who did they interview for this research? Autoplay is far less engaging than constant clicking and also allows people to calculate amount being spent / played. This seems more in favour of the operator rather than the players they're trying to protect
 

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What about when you spam click the spin button and the max bet is right beside it, accidently click on that and your deposit is gone in seconds. I have been guilty of it once at Trada, how many other people have done it, come on, own up? :oops:
 

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Another reason for me not to ever play at a UK based casino ever again! Glad im out of it. It just is not enjoyable anymore at all. Been months now since I have placed a bet on any UKGC covered casino and unless there was a dramatic shift in policy I wont be playing again anywhere with sites listed in the UK. Better options to be had elsewhere.
 

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I guess what we all should really be asking the casino reps here is are they going to turn a blind eye to people using auto clickers after 1st Oct ?

Or are they going to void any winnings if we use them? I would like to think that the main good UK facing casinos will just let us get on with it?

I mean i do mostly play manually, but its very handy for when your going for a loo break, making a coffee etc to try and come back to a surprise bonus. Not to mention im getting too old to play everything with clicks, RSI is only a few million clicks away from any of us.

Where there's blame there's a claim, yes I'm talking to you when it comes to suing UKGC. LOL
 
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I dont think they would be able to prove you were using an auto clicker.
Sure, it might look a bit suspicious that you had 300 spins in a row with the exact same delay between them, but surely they cant void winnings without evidence of wrongdoing?

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If auto clickers are allowed for Tinder they should be allowed for slots.

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200 clicks a week average is 10,000 in 1 year, that is certainly feasible and probably conservative, I do think they won't have given rsi & unnecessary joint wear and tear a thought, but they ought to have been made to consider it. In fact it could make slotting impossible for people with hand arthritis [a disability] I wonder if the effect is better or worse on a tablet/touch screen, as i'm thinking in terms of the desktop pc mouse that i use.
 

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I've just skim read that report :eek2::puke:as much of it as possible without getting annoyed, it's written like the summary judgement from a kangaroo court, what a joke. I think they should leave it alone, but an interim compromise at least could have allowed it to continue for £1 and under stake, which would encourage those stakes for autoplay users. Done as an experiment for 12 months and then reviewed. That would make it more nuanced and focus the concern on higher stakes/big losses.
 

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I dont think they would be able to prove you were using an auto clicker.
Sure, it might look a bit suspicious that you had 300 spins in a row with the exact same delay between them, but surely they cant void winnings without evidence of wrongdoing?

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If auto clickers are allowed for Tinder they should be allowed for slots.

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I'm sure an auto-clicker with "random" delay can't be that hard to make or is already out there.
 

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I'm sure an auto-clicker with "random" delay can't be that hard to make or is already out there.
They are out there.
You can even set the total area of the spin button as the 'click area' so it randomizes where it clicks aswell.
People seem to mostly be using them to automate tasks in games, so i guess you need the clickers to act a little more 'human' to avoid detection.
Ive looked around a bit and the bigger problem seems to be finding one that runs in the background without interfering with other inputs from the mouse/keyboard.
Only looked at a couple, but reading the comments it seems alot of people have trouble with getting them to work as they want them to.



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Been using autoclick for years, the only problem is that you cant reliably set the required number of games due to lag
and game animations changing the game cycle, the clicker will just carry on doing its clicking.

Well you can always use swiftspins. It's a script that runs on browser and enables removed features for slots even in the UK. It's intended to restore quickspins but i hear it also restores bonus buy functionality and I'm sure that after this update, also auto-play.
 
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