Genesis Casino Group Book of Dead RTP - 91.25%

[bamberfishcake]

I dont play at any Genesis casinos anymore following a really bad experience with Sloty.

In my experience they are the type of casino that use everything in their power to stall a withdrawal. By no means have i ever received a fast payout and ive played at a few on the list.

Much better casinos out there than anything from Genesis Global in my opinion.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I’m sure in light of this ‘extensive’ research our Dazza will have these links removed from his site!!??? Minutes and hours not days!!

Cmon he’s no different to all the other lot. Get your website up and get as many casinos on there as possible. Hardly any of them do what they claim they do on the tin!!

None of these affiliates certainly dont give 2 shits about low rtp versions of certain games and why would they? Which tbf was the original point of the OP. But really just an excuse to dig out chip.

It’s a simple business model really. Encourage people to sign up, deposit and lose.

Just dont know why some try and sugar coat it as anything else. Why try and pretend otherwise.

The majority have been called out either here or somewhere else for not really doing the research on the content they have on their sites. When that happens they all like to jump on the bandwagon and dig each other out like they’re all Mr Honest and the players best friend.

Give me a break.

 

[Harry_BKK]

To be honest, not promoting Genesis or Aspire on an aff site is like not promoting car sales from BMW or Bentley because they are so expensive. The bigger groups have just so much traffic that it would be commercially a sin to not list them.

Whether an affiliate actively pushes them, is up to them. What affiliates can and should do is write truthful reviews and inform players what to expect when they sign up. The players can then and still make the decision for themselves whether to join. And let's be honest from a player's point of view, a majority is hunting for the biggest bonus and disregard the most basic due diligence anyone should do before clicking the "submit" button on the registration form.

Both, Genesis and Aspire have 100,000s of active players, so they are not rogue. Both groups are known to pay reliably once you get past the hurdles - pending periods, bonus gameplay check and whatever other stall tactics they employ (e.g. the case with steveh35 at Trada) - and have the patience to wait up to a week. But they do pay, which is one of the main points.

We gaming nerds love VS-style lightning-fast withdrawals where you hit the button and seconds or minutes laters your email tone comes on that it has been processed. May I remind you that that is still not the norm in the industry (that it should be is a different discussion).

The lower RTP trick is still relatively new, so it takes time to spread everywhere. I am sure quite a few streamers or affiliates hardly ever check RTPs themselves or know the implications of a 5% lower RTP.

 

[Harry_BKK]

This is an example of one of my reviews for an Aspire white label. Anyone reading it and signing up will know what to expect. If he/she still does, then it was his/her decision. The casinos are legit, have proper licenses and offer RG tools as required, the rest is up to the player.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Unfortunately writing honest reviews of a large number of casinos these days wouldn’t get many clicks on the links!!

It’s funny how most are rated 4.5/5 stars!!

I reckon the old reverse psychology of this casino will take you round the houses to get you verified and then deliberately wait a week before even attempting to pay you out if you’ve won a decent amount won’t work! Once you start mentioning the old passport photo while standing on one leg, with a bus pass in one hand and a utility bill from 1998 in the other I think possible sign ups maybe put off!!!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

This is an example of one of my reviews for an Aspire white label. Anyone reading it and signing up will know what to expect. If he/she still does, then it was his/her decision. The casinos are legit, have proper licenses and offer RG tools as required, the rest is up to the player.

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How do you find comments like that affect your through traffic? Is that a recent update or has it always been that way?

I can’t imagine to many others would put that kind of stuff out there.

 

[Harry_BKK]

How do you find comments like that affect your through traffic? Is that a recent update or has it always been that way?

I can’t imagine to many others would put that kind of stuff out there.

I don't know how much you know about SEO but I do write the overall text to get it ranked in searches. I never write a review completely negative if a casino is legit, has major licenses, good game choice, promotions and proper RG tools as well as paying reliably.

The affiliate I write for currently wants to have real player reviews. Put it all out there so new players can make a decision based on facts. Casinos can always make an effort to improve. I stopped writing for other aff sites in the past because they wanted "only positive" reviews, which for me is not acceptable. However, I know that I am writing a commercial marketing text and will take care to provide a balanced view.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Unfortunately writing honest reviews of a large number of casinos these days wouldn’t get many clicks on the links!!

It’s funny how most are rated 4.5/5 stars!!

I reckon the old reverse psychology of this casino will take you round the houses to get you verified and then deliberately wait a week before even attempting to pay you out if you’ve won a decent amount won’t work! Once you start mentioning the old passport photo while standing on one leg, with a bus pass in one hand and a utility bill from 1998 in the other I think possible sign ups maybe put off!!!

Well, I have been approached by casino managers and game providers to explain why some of my reviews are not more positive. They tried to convince me to get them a better score and I told them to take a hike and improve first. One major game provider has cut my client area access because I wouldn't change them.

BTW, just to be clear I am no "saint", I still write to promote playing at casinos. In essence, I am part of the food chain.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

they’ve had the lower RTP for quite some time if I remember correctly.Only played at vegashero while back.

P.S. : the last member who started a thread about the streamer in question is on vacation .... I ain’t ready for a holiday just yet

I’m not on vacation!

 

[slot_zombie]

That is a disgusting RTP, laughable even. Just throwing money down the drain.

 

[lotusch]

Affiliate websites are there to make money for the owner, simple as.
I have done it for over a year but got fed up of it, simply because I had to chase after payments from certain affiliate programs, banners kept disappearing or all of a sudden had an invalid aff ID attached to it while I did not make any changes etc etc.
It is a lot of work!

People might underestimate how much work is involved in keeping an affiliate website up to date and current.
Sure the rewards can be pretty good but it is not just free money coming in, you have to work for it.

Dazza is a well respected member here and I used his website a couple of times to sign up for casinos because if I want someone to earn from my losses it would be him, I never ever use external affiliate websites to sign up for casinos except Casinomeister and @Dunovers website.

I agree, every affiliate website makes things look better than they might be, but hey money has to be earned.
As long as there are no blatant lies and no scam casinos with a positive review I am game.

 

[mack341]

I’m not on vacation!

So you're definitely not Judith Chalmers in disguise... [ I'm showing my age there]

I've only watched a few bits of Chip, one where he did a stream with his daughter I believe, he seemed a level enough guy. I wouldn't say he promotes a misleading image of slots either like some streamers. But I'm not trying to re-open the chip discussion here, just thought I'd mention my impression/view.

I tend to think with affiliates to make an income they've got to promote the less well known, smaller operations as most people who want to play slots are already signed up to the big household brands. And then sometimes the smaller, less popular casinos cut more corners, hence players experience problems.

It's like anything in life you purchase, there's a reason to trust certain brands and a reason not to others, we have to do a bit of due diligence ourselves and places like CM really help overall, alas somebody has to have a bad experience for others to find out about it...

The rtp issue, hiding it basically at the end of the help file etc.. should be addressed by the ukgc, they obviously ruled that the rtp info had to be provided but didn't seem to realise the firms and game makers wouldn't draw attention to it.

 

[TheAddict]

Agree Mack. Not at the end of the help file, but a pop up while loading asking you to confirm you understand it has a rtp of 91, which if you accept is then followed by another popup asking if you're stupid, followed by a final confirmation popup which says 'click here to play then you absolute idiot'

 

[Nik]

I’m not on vacation!

Wow yes ,sorry ! You just set up the fire and Playford got burned !

 

[colinsunderland]

So what happened to the troll @allang84 who started this thread with all the accusations, where has he gone?

 

[irish-ranger]

So what happened to the troll @allang84 who started this thread with all the accusations, where has he gone?

I suspect if one of the mods checked the Ops ISP it would match one already registered on CM (other people’s kids eh)

 

[goatwack]

This had the potential to be such a good streamer thread

 

[JohnSnow]

Do play and go games with 91% RTP really exist? Is there proof of this? Sometimes when I'm playing the RTP is like 2% so maybe it's true.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Do play and go games with 91% RTP really exist? Is there proof of this? Sometimes when I'm playing the RTP is like 2% so maybe it's true.

Here's a typical Play'n GO chart for the available RTPs they offer. (the ones marked with 2 are not allowed to be offered under MGA licenses)

MGA requires minimum 92%
UKGC is minimum 90%



For UK players, Genesis Global and Aspire Global casinos offer e.g. Book of Dead at a superb 91.25%

You have to log in with an UK account to see it. RoW has 94.25%.

 

[samdog21]

well well your killing each other with rtps ojo by far on play&go got be running right now at 97% vikingruinfeild was on fire last night, bod is close to that but they advertise the higher rtps and they ain't bullshitin lol.

 

[JohnSnow]

Here's a typical Play'n GO chart for the available RTPs they offer. (the ones marked with 2 are not allowed to be offered under MGA licenses)

MGA requires minimum 92%
UKGC is minimum 90%

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For UK players, Genesis Global and Aspire Global casinos offer e.g. Book of Dead at a superb 91.25%

You have to log in with an UK account to see it. RoW has 94.25%.

Jesus that's like really shit. I always wondered why on Genesis global casino's there is no playngo available for my country.

The lowest I have seen is 94% which is almost on all casino's these days. These variants always eat my balance like it's nothing so I avoid them whenever I can. 91% on a already very volatile slot is just criminal.

 

[Bloatgoat]

And they still get away with it, legally.

 

[allang84]

@colinsunderland Im here, I just have better things to do unlike you.

I have only stated facts! Chipmonkz has been caught out time and time again. He deletes any comments and blocks people on youtube and twitter. He was promoting non gamstop casinos. Why you defending people like that?

 

[colinsunderland]

@colinsunderland Im here, I just have better things to do unlike you.

I have only stated facts! Chipmonkz has been caught out time and time again. He deletes any comments and blocks people on youtube and twitter. He was promoting non gamstop casinos. Why you defending people like that?

No, what you said was

And surprise surprise streamer @Chipmonkz currently promotes this casino group. Nobody will be in the least bit surprised. He has form.

and

Dunover doesnt promote shady casinos

@Chipmonkz does


I showed you Dunover promotes the same group, as you singled him out, so you are either saying he is no different to Chipmonkz or you have an agenda to go after a certain streamer.

Which is it? Why aren't you calling out @dunover for doing what you think is so shady? Or any other streamer who is a member here so they can respond, rather than having a go at a streamer who can't respond?

As I say, in my view, it isn't shady promoting casinos using lower RTP's. I personally don't, but thats my choice. If anyone is shady, then its the casinos for offering the lower RTP's. Do you think Videoslots & Trada are shady?

As for defending him, I'm hardly his biggest fan if you look in the previous thread created about him, you will see that. However, if you are going to go after someone, then pick something they are actually doing wrong, that doesn't apply to dozens of other streamers/affiliates, rather than a single one making it look like a witch hunt.

 

[maxd]

@colinsunderland Im here, I just have better things to do unlike you.

I have only stated facts! Chipmonkz has been caught out time and time again. He deletes any comments and blocks people on youtube and twitter. He was promoting non gamstop casinos. Why you defending people like that?

Chippy is toast here at Casinomeister, account disabled and password changed at his own request. Time to bury that issue, no?