Please guys - let's just drop this tit-for-tat that so endangers a useful thread
and WW a personal appeal -please give the cap button a break - all this shouting is jangling my nerves
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@RobWin - until you have attended a [non-affiliate, general internet gambling] conference - and there's a big one upcoming in Montreal soon - it's hard to appreciate how much stuff is quietly organised, informed, argued and put together for the benefit of players by a number of people who truly place advocacy above advertising or affiliate activity, and have by deed and reputation earned the respect and the ear of decision makers.
It's not at all the exclusive club of "industry insiders" that some would have you believe, btw - it's open to anyone who is perceived to deliver real and balanced value.
Like Bryan and a few others, these are not the sort of guys and gals that do this stuff so they can subsequently issue press releases, post a brag-fest or otherwise blow their own trumpets.
I don't think your post some pages back about "those who attend conferences" was meant as a criticism of the sort of people I am referring to above, but it is something you should perhaps note and see demonstrated for yourself by attending such a general industry event - it's very informative in any number of positive ways.
Back on topic - @WW - this thread is moving so fast that your response to my last post is now deeply submerged, so I will just comment that if your view remains unchanged regarding the perceived relevance of Marty in real terms, we will have to agree to disagree.
The one thing your rationale does not appear to take into account is the danger to new online gamblers sucked in by manouevres such as "we've turned over a new leaf", because in the past that has turned out to be a hollow promise in several cases, and with this operator in particular.
That's a real danger to newbie players and the reason why there's a need to keep posting challenges whenever someone like Marty (for whom I bear no personal malice) pops up singing from the latest and now well worn "we're cleaning up" hymn sheet.
It's been said many times, but it bears repeating - reputation is a critical element in this industry.
If a company so rashly and repeatedly throws it's rep away, there is no way that players will meekly accept its latest assurance that it is reborn and instantly integrity-driven.
So the past definitely does matter, and until there is bona fide evidence of real change, players should be slow to trust again....even if a respectable affiliate name is spearheading the initiative.
