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dionysus

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Okay I don't want to be rude or anything, you guys make great job. But I thought this forum is for users. And users decide how we talk and how we create this forum. Now it's just something totally else. I understand you need to maintain this forum somehow but it's totally stupid to prohibit promotional posts from basic users. No aff-links, no anything. Just sharing information. And thats not okay anymore. In my mind that's not the right way but yes, just my opinion.
well, to be direct, Bryan decides ultimately everything. But Bryan HAS always taken member feedback on board. Anyone been around a while KNOWS CM was NEVER the place to go for freebies - this is pretty much a new thing.
And it was a combination of staff AND users soundboarding, and the threads have always been open to helpful advice and criticism.

And to point out (again) - there is NOTHING new being asked but for the red bolded type.
Bryan has always asked no shilly posts and to kindly include a link - the post, but for the red bold font is literally just a reiteration of what's always been asked.
 

colinsunderland

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well, to be direct, Bryan decides ultimately everything. But Bryan HAS always taken member feedback on board. Anyone been around a while KNOWS CM was NEVER the place to go for freebies - this is pretty much a new thing.
And it was a combination of staff AND users soundboarding, and the threads have always been open to helpful advice and criticism.

And to point out (again) - there is NOTHING new being asked but for the red bolded type.
Bryan has always asked no shilly posts and to kindly include a link - the post, but for the red bold font is literally just a reiteration of what's always been asked.
So why is feedback being met with sarcasm from mods and being told not to keep repeating the same thing if it's welcomed, certainly doesn't seem it from this thread. All I was doing was pointing out it doesn't take a few extra seconds, if you use a desktop usually, you might not have known that.
 

danofthewibble

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Were there really that many complaints in the Freebies threads?

Would a better, simpler solution not be to simply have a threshold for users before they can post in the Freebies thread? e.g. member for at least 30 days, or a minimum of 50 posts - that way you put off the shills, and automate the moderation.

* Used to co-run a small forum in the distant past.
 

goatwack

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It's all moot as there's no decent Free Spins offers to be had these days anyway, unless people do genuinely scramble to those 5 spins on BoD or 1 on Starburst!

The old thread had become a washed up mess full of filler as the offers just weren't there to begin with. And experienced members or not things were getting so desperate on the freebies front that even they'd slip up from time to time.

This new thread is not the second coming of Christ but as has been reiterated several times it is just a starting point and basic template that can always get improved over time. Unlike the offers themselves.
 

dunover

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It's all moot as there's no decent Free Spins offers to be had these days anyway, unless people do genuinely scramble to those 5 spins on BoD or 1 on Starburst!

The old thread had become a washed up mess full of filler as the offers just weren't there to begin with. And experienced members or not things were getting so desperate on the freebies front that even they'd slip up from time to time.

This new thread is not the second coming of Christ but as has been reiterated several times it is just a starting point and basic template that can always get improved over time. Unlike the offers themselves.
Ah....somebody gets it - that pretty much sums up Bryan's reasoning for closing it. :thumbsup:

@danofthewibble Yes, I suggested that too, then a pre-moderated thread, but it's a lot of aggro and we should rely on the integrity of the members with the principle all open threads are available to all members equally, except very new ones who are pre-moderated for a short time anyway.

If people cannot do the red colour on mobile, simply post and report the post quickly with 'needs red' or something. It's easy enough for us to edit on your behalf until a script or dev solution is created.

Remember, it's OK wanting a free-for-all thread but please try and remember why it was pulled - because posters were breaking the rules or abusing it too often, to the detriment of the forum. As a result people have had to spend their time on a voluntary basis trying to come up with a compromise solution to keep the advocates of the freebies thread happy and ensure the house rules can be applied simultaneously.
 

dunover

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So the guidelines are;only post spin on accredited casinos approved by casinomeister and just free spin offers not linked to deposit bonuses on those casinos? Is that a fair summary?
Near enough. It's a freebie ND/Spins thread, only to include casinos in the accredited or grey zone for now. The 'WHERE' should send the viewer to the appropriate CM review page.
It's a work in progress so hopefully will be made easier to post offers in or be expanded in future.
 

Supababe

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Ah....somebody gets it -
Do you know how totally condescending you have become to members?

I’m pretty sure that most members can be credited with a brain cell or two. We totally understand And respect Bryan’s house rules. We appreciate the time and effort Dionysus has put into it. If Bryan hadn’t been so busy with awards I would have suggested my little Dinosaur to oversee as he has grace and good manners.

Do they run courses in online tact and diplomacy?
 

greylady

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Do you know how totally condescending you have become to members?

I’m pretty sure that most members can be credited with a brain cell or two. We totally understand And respect Bryan’s house rules. We appreciate the time and effort Dionysus has put into it. If Bryan hadn’t been so busy with awards I would have suggested my little Dinosaur to oversee as he has grace and good manners.

Do they run courses in online tact and diplomacy?
I have to say I agree with you Supa! It had to be said as I find Dunover incredibly argumentative and dismissive ....and I thought it was just me :eek2:
 

geordiecolin

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Given what we posters are left with and judging by the condescending and patronising manor displayed by admin in this thread I can see Casinomeister losing very many peoples will to post freebies which will result in a huge decrease in traffic to the site.
Result = No one wins
 

geordiecolin

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Do you know how totally condescending you have become to members?

I’m pretty sure that most members can be credited with a brain cell or two. We totally understand And respect Bryan’s house rules. We appreciate the time and effort Dionysus has put into it. If Bryan hadn’t been so busy with awards I would have suggested my little Dinosaur to oversee as he has grace and good manners.

Do they run courses in online tact and diplomacy?
You got there before me!
 

colinsunderland

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Couple of ways I think would be good to get round the problems. any of them should work, and the first could be done straight away

1. Disallow link posting in that forum except by mods. Lets be honest, a free spin thread with 99.9% of offers for existing customers isn't going to create many sign ups, for sign up offers, mods can post them, or mods/casino reps even, and the odd deal by a member could have an affiliate link added by a mod.

2. Create a script adding a 'review' button next to the 'post reply' button or somewhere, click it brings an alphabetical list of casinos, click the casino it auto adds a link to the review.

3. Create a script, a bit like skimlinks, where words are automatically changed to links. I've seen this on quite a few vbulletin forums, so presumably theres something out there to do it and presumably there will be one for xenforo. That could be used sitewide too (please make it in a new window though!). So for example, if someone writes Videoslots in a post, as soon as its posted, it leaves the text 'Videoslots' the same, so as not to interrupt reading, but adds a link to the word (changing it to blue) directing anyone who clicks it to the review. As long as it doesn't do that annoying pop up shit that skimlinks does, it is seamless.
 

Supababe

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I popped on to add to the suggestions a while ago but felt I best not make any suggestions for fear of being accused of ‘not getting it’...

Lots of the offers posted are weekly etc like the sun Leo Vegas ones.
Others are daily like the Trada daily promos.
Not being web savvy I was going to ask how hard it would be to create a calendar type section wheee the weekly ones could be added but also accredited reps could update as promo campaigns are released.
 

mariafbb

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d. Anyone been around a while KNOWS CM was NEVER the place to go for freebies - this is pretty much a new thing.
I am fairly new here -6 months or so , but I do recall an incedent on VS ofering a trip to Malta - that was won by somebody with a 10 posts on the forum on something ?
but as said, me and you have diffrent opinions on things .
thanks a lot for helping out with the Forum and all but I am joining my friends ^^^ Supa :p
 

Chipkin9

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Ah....somebody gets it - that pretty much sums up Bryan's reasoning for closing it. :thumbsup:

@danofthewibble Yes, I suggested that too, then a pre-moderated thread, but it's a lot of aggro and we should rely on the integrity of the members with the principle all open threads are available to all members equally, except very new ones who are pre-moderated for a short time anyway.

If people cannot do the red colour on mobile, simply post and report the post quickly with 'needs red' or something. It's easy enough for us to edit on your behalf until a script or dev solution is created.

Remember, it's OK wanting a free-for-all thread but please try and remember why it was pulled - because posters were breaking the rules or abusing it too often, to the detriment of the forum. As a result people have had to spend their time on a voluntary basis trying to come up with a compromise solution to keep the advocates of the freebies thread happy and ensure the house rules can be applied simultaneously.
I don't understand in the slightest why there needs to be colouring of the WHO, WHAT, WHERE.

Is everyone on the forum to be presumed blind? :laugh:

Will they not already be able to identify a freespin offer post by the underlined and blue highlighted link to said casino?

I seriously don't get it.

I also don't get why the last thread was pulled. I don't remember any seasoned members ever posting spam or any affiliate links what so ever to the thread. I also don't recall a single time where a newbie's signed up and visitied the thread just to post thier spammy shit. So I don't get calling it a "Spammy, free for all" which it quite obviously wasn't.

On one or two occasions I have seen links from members (Posted inadvertently and not for deliberate spam purposes) and they were edited quickly.

The last time was SlotGrinder posting the direct link for Playgrand casino in a moment of lapsed thought processing and that was enough to kill the thread.

So I can only imagine that Staff want a freespin thread where linking to Casinomeisters affiliate links is mandatory; which I admittedly see no problem with. Bryan's house, Bryan rules.

But seriously relax on the Red Highlighting. We can read :thumbsup:
 

Chipkin9

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Given what we posters are left with and judging by the condescending and patronising manor displayed by admin in this thread I can see Casinomeister losing very many peoples will to post freebies which will result in a huge decrease in traffic to the site.
Result = No one wins
Will it though? I have to be honest, I don't see freespins threads as a huge draw on traffic for Casinomeister.

While we all enjoy them and pop in to see if anything worthwhile has managed to surface, I think CM would survive without one.

From Bryans perspective, no one was posting the affiliate links of Casinomeister to the previous thread anyway which didn't bring any revenue to the site.

Let's say Casinomesiter gets 50 new signups a month and they all visit the freespin thread. It's surely likely that a lot of them haven't signed up to most of the casino's, and by not posting the official CM link, CM is missing out on that potential revenue (I'm being speculative here).

So I don't think there would be any real loss of meaningful traffic to the site if all they came for was a frespin thread. :)
 

dionysus

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I don't understand in the slightest why there needs to be colouring of the WHO, WHAT, WHERE.

Is everyone on the forum to be presumed blind? :laugh:

Will they not already be able to identify a freespin offer post by the underlined and blue highlighted link to said casino?

I seriously don't get it.

I also don't get why the last thread was pulled. I don't remember any seasoned members ever posting spam or any affiliate links what so ever to the thread. I also don't recall a single time where a newbie's signed up and visitied the thread just to post thier spammy shit. So I don't get calling it a "Spammy, free for all" which it quite obviously wasn't.

On one or two occasions I have seen links from members (Posted inadvertently and not for deliberate spam purposes) and they were edited quickly.

The last time was SlotGrinder posting the direct link for Playgrand casino in a moment of lapsed thought processing and that was enough to kill the thread.

So I can only imagine that Staff want a freespin thread where linking to Casinomeisters affiliate links is mandatory; which I admittedly see no problem with. Bryan's house, Bryan rules.

But seriously relax on the Red Highlighting. We can read :thumbsup:
one reason the red bolded font was discussed to assuage the people that b*tched about the banter, so they could scroll on by the chit-chat to the goodies and still allow members to chat and discuss
and yes, the casino text would be in blue, assuming peeps put in the link, and as foreseen, and shown in this thread, the biggest kvetch would be entering the link (no link, no blue text).

Seriously, it's not as easy as you'd think or hope, to make everyone happy. No decision was arbitrary.
 

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