Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn

[goatwack]

To what what extent to you feel you're addicted to gambling? Is it something you feel you have fully under control, or does it control your lifestyle?

I believe that we're all hooked in some form, and that many of us are in denial by dismissing its severity.

I know that gambling has encroached aspects of my time, and it's all well and good because I have money. However, what happens when you can't gamble?

Do you believe that you can ever truly stop gambling by choice?

 

[Jd666]

I couldnt gamble in July due to laptop breaking.
And I didnt give a shit.
Didnt miss it at all.

 

[goatwack]

I couldnt gamble in July due to laptop breaking.
And I didnt give a shit.
Didnt miss it at all.

Yeah I noticed your enforced break because of your laptop woes. Sometimes it takes something like that to break the routine, plus having other interests.

Plus you get more time to hone the old lighthouse snaps

 

[RichyJ75]

Yes, I'm addicted and have self imposed limits and TAB's all over the place. Is it a problem? yes and no - I have managed to be £250 in profit in last few days and never reversed my withdrawals, so no it is not a problem that I need to play to the end, but yes it is a problem in that I enjoy playing and do envisage me getting a monster win at some point!

Could I go without having a flutter? Deep down yes I can, but I do push the limits in getting to play - namely if I am up to my deposit limit, I will open an account elsewhere to tide me over!!

I don't max out credit cards nor deplete my bank account, so realistically it is not a problem with money, it is more a psychological problem in setting time aside to play and as many have said, it is breaking that routine. Late night quiet times once wife and kids are in bed are the worse!

However, I would like the complete gaming industry to change as follows. The punter sets up one central account with say the UKGC which is verified and is a complete KYC package. This account is then used to open up gaming accounts at the casino sites. All SE's, TAB's and deposit limits are administered through the central account at UKGC, so once this account is SE, then no accounts are operational at any casino site level. Likewise one deposit limit applies to total deposits through all sites. My wishful thinking, but boy would that clear up a hell of a lot of issues elsewhere and is a true 'responsible gaming' policy!!

 

[Deeplay]

A few years back I was hopeless gambled like a lunatic - was VIP at a number of places (not that it mattered just meant I spent more)
got the comps the free meals ( royal Vegas credit to them were great at such things )

But then it became dark - I was chasing and yep it effected my life style and me as a person. Quit for around a year but love it so much decided to learn and master the art of responsible gambling.

These days I have depo limits on all casinos I play at. I use TAB very very often. Example at the moment max I can deposit in any given day is £10 at 2 casinos who don't have a depo limit under that.
The rest are either set to under the min deposit or im on TAB - never SE.

Casinos such as slingo are idiots for not allowing a below min deposit limit as all it means is I use TAB much more with such places. VS / Royal Panda you can set the min depo limit to what you want so I find I play there more often.

With limits I would do my brains in I know. 4 times in total the past 15 months I made the error of not setting a depo limit and could feel me chasing. Over all though with my set limits I enjoy it so much more. Never loose more than I can afford to flush down the toilet and never loose sleep on a loss. I really admire people who can control the spending without the need for using RG tools but for me its a must.

Total deposits the last 10 days = £20 quid as im on an almost total break - until next weekend then I will play again. And adjust my limits based on win / losses. Really feel for those people who get in too deep
as I know how truly awful it can get. Play safe people always and enjoy it.

 

[Deeplay]

Do you believe that you can ever truly stop gambling by choice?[/B]

Some can and do yes - but depends on the reasons they are wanting to stop. Its harder without support though. I remember when I was in deep I used a forum to help me kick the urges and it worked. Ongoing support etc but also it taught me some basics about gambling within my own means as in truth I didnt wanna stop but didnt want end up on skid row either

But yeah people can and do. Blocking software can work for some but its not fool proof. Sadly i know a few people who have lost so much and not just money who never truly seem to gain a hold over there addiction. And its grim to see. On my year or so off from gambling I found some really good forums etc which did help. But in the end I return to the fold - as I just foooking lov it too much

 

[Deeplay]

Was gonna edit my last post but couldnt be bothered as been out in the sun all day. but I think such topics as this are important even on a pro gambling forum.
And especially talking of Responsible gambling and how others do it .... this is defo a subject I would like to see come up more - so good one Mr OP!

 

[goatwack]

Some can and do yes - but depends on the reasons they are wanting to stop. Its harder without support though. I remember when I was in deep I used a forum to help me kick the urges and it worked. Ongoing support etc but also it taught me some basics about gambling within my own means as in truth I didnt wanna stop but didnt want end up on skid row either

But yeah people can and do. Blocking software can work for some but its not fool proof. Sadly i know a few people who have lost so much and not just money who never truly seem to gain a hold over there addiction. And its grim to see. On my year or so off from gambling I found some really good forums etc which did help. But in the end I return to the fold - as I just foooking lov it too much

Some great posts here already. I'm happy that you seemed to have got your habit well under control, and it's great to see.

I had toyed with the idea of setting deposit limits myself as I find myself losing more and more from winning positions, and chasing on occasion. I have accepted that my impulsiveness needs to be curbed, and it's high time to set some limits.

Far better to have that feeling of having lost £20 than £200 I have no doubt.

Got so many sites I'm registered at, mind. Could take a while to wade through

 

[goatwack]

Was gonna edit my last post but couldnt be bothered as been out in the sun all day. but I think such topics as this are important even on a pro gambling forum.
And especially talking of Responsible gambling and how others do it .... this is defo a subject I would like to see come up more - so good one Mr OP!

It was a toss-up between this or whether the increase in the cost postage stamps can be justified

 

[Deeplay]

Some great posts here already. I'm happy that you seemed to have got your habit well under control, and it's great to see.

I had toyed with the idea of setting deposit limits myself as I find myself losing more and more from winning positions, and chasing on occasion. I have accepted that my impulsiveness needs to be curbed, and it's high time to set some limits.

Far better to have that feeling of having lost £20 than £200 I have no doubt.

Got so many sites I'm registered at, mind. Could take a while to wade through

If its starting to get to you then i would DEFO recommend setting deposit limits and maybe cutting back on the number of casinos you have open (T.A.B) but the latter is kind of taken care for those casinos where you can drop to a below min deposit level. What you got to loose ? You can always slam them back up again even though most places there is a 7 day wait for increase. but some have a 48 hour or 24 hour waiting period on an increase.

And this will sound a bit sad but I like the challenge of having a really low depo limit and seeing if I can reach a set target on cash out. Such as I did at VS the other week - deposit of 25 and was looking for 100 which I made .... then cause Im an addict I forgot my own challenge and played on ------------ bust But yes you should maybe try it - who knows you might even enjoy having that saftey net .... and even with stacks of casinos you get through them 1 by 1. Its second nature for me now even when opening a new account I immediately set my depo limit.

 

[goatwack]

If its starting to get to you then i would DEFO recommend setting deposit limits and maybe cutting back on the number of casinos you have open (T.A.B) but the latter is kind of taken care for those casinos where you can drop to a below min deposit level. What you got to loose ? You can always slam them back up again even though most places there is a 7 day wait for increase. but some have a 48 hour or 24 hour waiting period on an increase.

And this will sound a bit sad but I like the challenge of having a really low depo limit and seeing if I can reach a set target on cash out. Such as I did at VS the other week - deposit of 25 and was looking for 100 which I made .... then cause Im an addict I forgot my own challenge and played on ------------ bust But yes you should maybe try it - who knows you might even enjoy having that saftey net .... and even with stacks of casinos you get through them 1 by 1. Its second nature for me now even when opening a new account I immediately set my depo limit.

Good stuff. But tell me, how did you go about it? I have at least two to three regular joints and many others that could be easily deposited at (but am unlikely to really play at).

And what sort of limits did you impose at these places? I mean even if you set limits at three places of say £25 each, that's still £75+ that can go quite easily. Did you close your 'surplus' accounts, and did this have any consequence?

 

[Deeplay]

Good stuff. But tell me, how did you go about it? I have at least two to three regular joints and many others that could be easily deposited at (but am unlikely to really play at).

And what sort of limits did you impose at these places? I mean even if you set limits at three places of say £25 each, that's still £75+ that can go quite easily. Did you close your 'surplus' accounts, and did this have any consequence?

it all depends on my economy and if i have been winning or loosing. If im loosing say 3 or 4 days in a row I pull the depo limits right down to the under the minimum. Or TAB for those casinos that don't have that.

But a usual week is 30 to 60 quid at VS

Then 2 other places say 20 to 25 a day the rest are set to zero or near as.

If I loose 2 or 3 days in a row at VS for example then I go on a break and use the free rolls for the week ... but it all depends on your own financial situation. And what you class as much or not much. As a rule if I am loosing more than 200 quid in a week then its too much. these days its usually less. And if I get some good wins those depo limits are increased. Start low then adjust it as you go along. Maybe choose 2 or 3 casinos for 1 week - set limits at them all and the rest TAB for a week or 2. And they are times when im on total break - no gambling for a week or 2 ...

 

[Deeplay]

Plus I dont chase bonuses - so that dont bother me and so I am personally fine with only 2 or 3 casinos max at any one time where I can deposit at. It gets risky if I have more open .... example if I have 100 casinos open with a depo limit of 10 quid a day at each of em .... like a termite I would eat through them all one by one 10 x 100 = 1000 quid

 

[goatwack]

Plus I dont chase bonuses - so that dont bother me and so I am personally fine with only 2 or 3 casinos max at any one time where I can deposit at. It gets risky if I have more open .... example if I have 100 casinos open with a depo limit of 10 quid a day at each of em .... like a termite I would eat through them all one by one 10 x 100 = 1000 quid

So you stick to the two or three casinos and forget about the rest. Do you leave them dormant, but active? Do you set deposit limits at the other 97 casinos or just leave them as they are. Do you close your accounts with them?

I've just set some limits and it's pretty easy to do - I'm surprised how long it's taken me

 

[Deeplay]

So you stick to the two or three casinos and forget about the rest.

Yes by either using TAB or setting a deposit limit below the min required to make a deposit


Do you leave them dormant, but active?

Yep I do I never use SE these days.


Do you set deposit limits at the other 97 casinos or just leave them as they are.

100 was rhetorical figure ;-) But yeah I set limits or TAB on every place I frequent in the dark of the eve.

Do you close your accounts with them?

Nope just TAB - and Depo limit so even when TAB is over I cant depo straight away and have to go through the pending period. So reduce depo limit then TAB if you are needing to.

I've just set some limits and it's pretty easy to do - I'm surprised how long it's taken me

For casinos that dont offer the RG tools I need I close the account down. Why expose myself to risk is my way of thinking

 

[Yorkstar]

What the heck is TAB I remember tab clear back in the day, it wasn't the the best tasting drink to be fair, neither was ice tea.

 

[goatwack]

What the heck is TAB I remember tab clear back in the day, it wasn't the the best tasting drink to be fair, neither was ice tea.

Tugging At Boner

 

[RichyJ75]

What the heck is TAB I remember tab clear back in the day, it wasn't the the best tasting drink to be fair, neither was ice tea.

I like Goatwack's answer, although am worried if he is doing lots of TAB's!!!

Alas, it is 'take a break' so not a minimum 6 month self exclusion (SE) but anything from a day to 6 weeks.

 

[Jd666]

Yeah I noticed your enforced break because of your laptop woes. Sometimes it takes something like that to break the routine, plus having other interests.

Plus you get more time to hone the old lighthouse snaps

And i even managed two withdrawals in July with free spins

Dont like playing on mobile though

 

[Yorkstar]

Ah take a break that makes sense, i might actually get to bed tonight now

 

[hedgehok]

I'm more addicted to this forum than to gambling itself!

 

[goatwack]

I'm more addicted to this forum than to gambling itself!

Perhaps you ought to set yourself some CM limits. Your viewership has got out of hand!

 

[Mousey]

To what what extent to you feel you're addicted to gambling? Is it something you feel you have fully under control, or does it control your lifestyle?

I believe that we're all hooked in some form, and that many of us are in denial by dismissing its severity.

I know that gambling has encroached aspects of my time, and it's all well and good because I have money. However, what happens when you can't gamble?

Do you believe that you can ever truly stop gambling by choice?

USA players are finding out.

As I have mentioned before here (probably ad nauseum) just as an alcoholic cannot quite comprehend how a non-alcoholic can have an occasional beer or highball and not be a closet alcoholic, it is just as difficult for a non-alcoholic to fully understand how alcohol can fully dictate and consume an alcoholic's life against their will - even to the point of financial and personal disaster. It is the same with gambling.

I haven't gambled in years - though I would love having a spin - and have not replaced gambling with drinking or betting the ponies or cutting myself or dropping big bucks on the lottery or whatever. Gambling was and is entertainment. When depositing and withdrawing online became a nightmare of a hassle and no longer enjoyable, I stopped. (Also stopped for a few years following Black Friday, Blue Monday & the UIGEA) So, yes, there are those who truly enjoy gambling who can stop at will.

For those who have even the slightest thought that they might be going down the path to - or already are - losing control, please do something about it NOW. I can't find any links to the How to slow down/stop gambling article here at casinomeister, but there's one here somewhere. LOL

There are plenty of things in life other than the gambling rush/crash/money vacuum to fill your time if you so choose.

 

[The Prospect]

Hard To Tell

Great thread and an interesting read, The way i look at it is i am not an overly wealthy man but i can afford to do things I love. I work hard and see my money as my spoils of that work to do with as i wish. I always make sure my family gets what it needs/wants which is obviously where most of my income goes to haha, i pay my bills on time and have no debt. I like to play golf which i'm sure most of you will know is not a cheap, but again it's what i enjoy doing. In certain periods of my life i have been 'on the short side of money' but i knocked online gambling on the head for a few months, still managed to squeeze in a game of poker with the lads every now and again . But golf took priority over the gambling which to me says i'm more addicted to 18 holes than i am to gambling.

 

[goatwack]

Great thread and an interesting read, The way i look at it is i am not an overly wealthy man but i can afford to do things I love. I work hard and see my money as my spoils of that work to do with as i wish. I always make sure my family gets what it needs/wants which is obviously where most of my income goes to haha, i pay my bills on time and have no debt. I like to play golf which i'm sure most of you will know is not a cheap, but again it's what i enjoy doing. In certain periods of my life i have been 'on the short side of money' but i knocked online gambling on the head for a few months, still managed to squeeze in a game of poker with the lads every now and again . But golf took priority over the gambling which to me says i'm more addicted to 18 holes than i am to gambling.

Some great points by everyone, I agree that gambling can be maintained to a lesser degree, and is often easiest to manage when taking up another pastime.

Swapping one vice with another is probably the only sure way of subduing gambling urges altogether. I think if one has just gambling to occupy their lives that is when serious problems occur further down the line

 

[Jasminebed]

Probably.

Other than when in Cuba, I do find myself waiting or planning my next deposit. I look forward to my playing.

I have little "No Jazzy, soon it will be 10pm, when you can't go load the card, you don't need to spend anymore before Friday" talks with myself.

I am definitely less heavily addicted than I was many years ago in my past. I do without certain things most times to allow room in the budget for gambling, usually taking a cab and going out for some drinks, or ordering take-out food instead of cooking. It's been at least 15 years since I've did without necessities in order to gamble, long before online.

A lot of what Deeplay said holds true for me.

When I had less money to play with, there was no need to set any deposit limits. I do have some now.

I also play at way less casinos, simply by not playing at them. There are four I deposit at most weeks, and two more I play once or twice in a month that offer different software.

If I've had a good run or there is a really attractive SUB at a newly accredited casino or occasionally a BBF, I might give it a go.

I learned long ago not to chase losses. To regard what I deposit as money spent on something I love doing, not money "invested".

I'm a pretty happy gambler, which was not always true.

I think one of the definitions of addiction is that impacts your life in a negative way.

Other than sometimes staying up too late playing, I don't feel it does. That was not always true for me.

 

[Deeplay]

Probably.

Other than when in Cuba, I do find myself waiting or planning my next deposit. I look forward to my playing.

I have little "No Jazzy, soon it will be 10pm, when you can't go load the card, you don't need to spend anymore before Friday" talks with myself.

I am definitely less heavily addicted than I was many years ago in my past. I do without certain things most times to allow room in the budget for gambling, usually taking a cab and going out for some drinks, or ordering take-out food instead of cooking. It's been at least 15 years since I've did without necessities in order to gamble, long before online.

A lot of what Deeplay said holds true for me.

When I had less money to play with, there was no need to set any deposit limits. I do have some now.

I also play at way less casinos, simply by not playing at them. There are four I deposit at most weeks, and two more I play once or twice in a month that offer different software.

If I've had a good run or there is a really attractive SUB at a newly accredited casino or occasionally a BBF, I might give it a go.

I learned long ago not to chase losses. To regard what I deposit as money spent on something I love doing, not money "invested".

I'm a pretty happy gambler, which was not always true.

I think one of the definitions of addiction is that impacts your life in a negative way.

Other than sometimes staying up too late playing, I don't feel it does. That was not always true for me.

So true on that point about chasing losses. That was me a few years back. Kept hitting the deposit button like a maniac. And still would today if my limits did not kick in and stop me. I know myself too well. Its the worst form of gambling for those that go off on a tilt. And most times doomed as we start making bigger and bigger bets. I am proof a person can gamble responsibly and I have come through the whole addiction thing and didnt end up in the gutter - (I would have if I had continued the way I was!)

Thankfully today there is more awareness certainly in the UK and loads of really good online resources forums etc for those struggling and I dont just mean gamecare - which for other reasons I wont go into here are not the best by any means. A casino wide lock out for those that SE which is supposed to be going into effect through the UKGC is a really positive move but wait for the fall out as punters who are not in the know suddenly find themselves locked out of all reputable casinos bar the clip joints licensed with the North Korea Gaming Association.

One thing I really like about CM is when people who are really struggling come in no one slams them - (apart from those just looking for a loop hole to reclaim a loss) and people do get pointed in the right direction. Casinos also these days are I feel much more socially aware of there responsibility to keep it fun and work towards protecting those who are more vulnerable.

All that said n done looking forward to my limit increase with VS later this week starting at £50 per day which will be adjusted down if I loose.

 

[RichyJ75]

One thing that has always puzzled me about 'addictions' is that a smoking addiction was perfectly fine in the workplace as people were free to leave the office, pop outside with their buddies and partake in a fag or two. As soon as you mention you need to pop out to the local pub to suffice your gambling addiction on the fruit machine, it was always frowned upon and you get written warnings over it.

Biased gits!!

)

 

[Jono777]

Yeah agreed, my boss was a bit of a tosser every time I told him I was off to the disabled loo's to jack up

 

[goatwack]

One thing that has always puzzled me about 'addictions' is that a smoking addiction was perfectly fine in the workplace as people were free to leave the office, pop outside with their buddies and partake in a fag or two. As soon as you mention you need to pop out to the local pub to suffice your gambling addiction on the fruit machine, it was always frowned upon and you get written warnings over it.

Biased gits!!

)

Who knows. I guess with the likes of gambling (and even drinking) the consequences of the user's actions are wider-reaching, wheras with smoking it's looked upon as a solitary vice that only affects the user in question.

Smoking is just considering dirty, gambling is considered dangerous to anyone in that person's inner circle.

 

[Deeplay]

Smoking is just considering dirty, gambling is considered dangerous to anyone in that person's inner circle.

 

[goatwack]

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I love vaping. Been doing it for about the same duration as I've been gambling!

Just bought myself a iJoy Limitless RDTA, which is basically a dripper/ tank. Or just dripping for lazy people.

Smoking is one habit I'm glad I got rid of, no chance of me ever going back on the death sticks

 

[Deeplay]

I love vaping. Been doing it for about the same duration as I've been gambling!

Just bought myself a iJoy Limitless RDTA, which is basically a dripper/ tank. Or just dripping for lazy people.

Smoking is one habit I'm glad I got rid of, no chance of me ever going back on the death sticks

Me 2 - am on a cool fire with a Nautilus sub tank still 8ml but with the new EU regulations its down to 2ml with loads of other totally pointless regulations ....

 

[goatwack]

Me 2 - am on a cool fire with a Nautilus sub tank still 8ml but with the new EU regulations its down to 2ml with loads of other totally pointless regulations ....

This will probably be the EU's parting swipe at UK vapers, by getting the industry fully regulated.

Before long we'll have to purchase 15ml or less bottles to get our juices!

 

[dunover]

Interesting topic. I'm not sure why I play slots - the only form of online gambling I partake in. In fact the only gambling I do. I think it's more of a time-filler, my 'down time'. I don't need the money I win when I am fortunate. I feel just the same when I withdraw say 100 off of a 25 deposit as I did on the recent Rhino video hit where I made by far my largest ever deposit of 500 and w/d 1800. The amount isn't that important, rather the 'winning' and having had some free entertainment before it. The entertainment is not free when I lose, which over time I do. In last month I'm about 200 up, the month before about 450 down.

Much of the time I find it boring; I need to be in the right mood to abuse the Rhino or get mounted by Montezuma or tormented by Twin Spin. I get just as much pleasure reading on my Kindle, and often go a week or two without playing. I only play at one casino now, because it has most of my favourite games and cash-outs are instant. I really haven't the time or inclination to play at new casinos now and go through the tedious KYC/first cash-out process with all the doubt it entails. I only do so when a new casino pops up on here and I have to test it for my site.

Most of my fun is ridiculing new games on YT or simply doing my slot-related work too. I can honestly say I can take it or leave it, same as drink. If somebody said I couldn't play a real money slot or have a lager for the rest of my life, I'm not even that sure it'd bother me too much.

 

[Jono777]

Quicksilver (talarius) Land based operators have a good quote...

'Playing slots is buying fun, NOT investing money' this is 95% the way I look at it.

The 5% is buying rage, torture and pain!

 

[goatwack]

Interesting topic. I'm not sure why I play slots - the only form of online gambling I partake in. In fact the only gambling I do. I think it's more of a time-filler, my 'down time'. I don't need the money I win when I am fortunate. I feel just the same when I withdraw say 100 off of a 25 deposit as I did on the recent Rhino video hit where I made by far my largest ever deposit of 500 and w/d 1800. The amount isn't that important, rather the 'winning' and having had some free entertainment before it. The entertainment is not free when I lose, which over time I do. In last month I'm about 200 up, the month before about 450 down.

Much of the time I find it boring; I need to be in the right mood to abuse the Rhino or get mounted by Montezuma or tormented by Twin Spin. I get just as much pleasure reading on my Kindle, and often go a week or two without playing. I only play at one casino now, because it has most of my favourite games and cash-outs are instant. I really haven't the time or inclination to play at new casinos now and go through the tedious KYC/first cash-out process with all the doubt it entails. I only do so when a new casino pops up on here and I have to test it for my site.

Most of my fun is ridiculing new games on YT or simply doing my slot-related work too. I can honestly say I can take it or leave it, same as drink. If somebody said I couldn't play a real money slot or have a lager for the rest of my life, I'm not even that sure it'd bother me too much.

Wholeheartedly agree on this. Gambling tickles everyone in different ways, some like the quick monetary gains, some will play to unwind and some will look to fund a session of drip-feed wins.

I do believe that the winning aspect is what I gamble for, more so than any spectacular withdrawal. Money is not the issue as much as the lingering hope of winning some more of it over an extended time.

If I get a few nice hits, loads of playtime and some dopamine surges, I'm more than content. Chasing that high and having your playtime and finances cut short is the real bodyblow and so a fair game is where it's at for me

 

[Deeplay]

Interesting topic. I'm not sure why I play slots - the only form of online gambling I partake in. In fact the only gambling I do. I think it's more of a time-filler, my 'down time'. I don't need the money I win when I am fortunate. I feel just the same when I withdraw say 100 off of a 25 deposit as I did on the recent Rhino video hit where I made by far my largest ever deposit of 500 and w/d 1800. The amount isn't that important, rather the 'winning' and having had some free entertainment before it. The entertainment is not free when I lose, which over time I do. In last month I'm about 200 up, the month before about 450 down.

Much of the time I find it boring; I need to be in the right mood to abuse the Rhino or get mounted by Montezuma or tormented by Twin Spin. I get just as much pleasure reading on my Kindle, and often go a week or two without playing. I only play at one casino now, because it has most of my favourite games and cash-outs are instant. I really haven't the time or inclination to play at new casinos now and go through the tedious KYC/first cash-out process with all the doubt it entails. I only do so when a new casino pops up on here and I have to test it for my site.

Most of my fun is ridiculing new games on YT or simply doing my slot-related work too. I can honestly say I can take it or leave it, same as drink. If somebody said I couldn't play a real money slot or have a lager for the rest of my life, I'm not even that sure it'd bother me too much.

I play to win -) but also cause I like the rush when you hit something big plus all the other stuff messing around on this forum and a few others.... its more of one of my pass times. I dont need the funds and can afford to loose what I do as financially im set. I work for myself which has many plus points but can build up the pressure. So this one of the vices I like to use which takes your mind of stuff.

Cant stand bookmakers or FOBTS - tried em they are crap and I hate the atmosphere in bookmakers ... and dont play LB casinos any more. I see people come through the forums so angry at a loss and I dont mean the same way as you are when foul mouthing it over twin spin shafting you , but a dark anger that they lost - desperate for a loop hole. If I ever got like that I would quit for ever. Its just not what its about. We gamble, most times we loose and in between we enjoy it or should.

Those posts from people claiming this is rigged or that is rigged because they lost big actually really piss me off. Its entertainment same as pRon or beer ... if it gets too much - quit )

 

[nikantw]

Quicksilver (talarius) Land based operators have a good quote...

'Playing slots is buying fun, NOT investing money' this is 95% the way I look at it.

The 5% is buying rage, torture and pain!

Agreed, but need to add that super big wins are sooooooo much more fun!
So basically we are not investing money, just buying monster wins!