Fighting H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act

[SlotsWizard]

Stopping Americans from exercising their right to choice when it comes to online gambling is a dangerous and slippery path.

It sure is. It's very frustrating that our freedoms are now trampled thanks to Frist and his vigilante crusade against online gambling. What's his beef? Is he related to one of the few people that couldn't handle online gaming, and his only chance to get even is to punish the rest of the country?

I hope next year's batch of twits are smart enough to repeal this bullshit. I couldn't care less about credit cards since I don't think people should be able to charge gambling purchases. But policing what I spend my hard-earned money on is ridiculous.

FRIST '08 .... NOT!!!!

 

[Simmo!]

Port Security Bill?! How is that relevant? Amazing!

Anyway, the make or break on the watered down (and in my opinion ineffective) legislation that just passed is not so much how the US police it, but as to how the online gambling industry reacts. We've already seen some waves inside the industry - it's now down to whether it (the industry) decides to plug the leak or jump ship .

I couldn't care less about credit cards since I don't think people should be able to charge gambling purchases.

I agree - good call SJ.

While preventing debt through gambling is a good thing IMO, US politicians have managed not only to fail to stop US money going to offshore companies (what the whole 4477/4411 thing is really about anyway), but they have also just ensured that even more will go to the prepaid companies overseas. Ironic really.

But then this last bit was political posturing ahead of mid-term anyway. I guess he had to be seen to get something through, and it could definately help the debt situation, but it does have the potential to be a backfire IMO.

 

[Peaceful1]

at least it's not over till it's over (still have to get the signature).. yep, we had tons of reports/paperworks Friday night of bills passing..they really piled it on in a frenzy (wouldn't surprise me if that was somewhat intentional (rush..rush)) and could not be carefully and thoroughly considered.

Glad I'm on my way to Mohegan today... hope this takes a turn for the better and for our sake.

 

[paul02085]

This is a good read

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[kmartinusa]

Link to latest that I could find

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[Rollo]

Maybe it's not as bad as all that...

But then again... maybe it is.

After reading it a bit more, it looks like Paypal got its way and Neteller, FirePay, et al. could be in big trouble. The bill lays out a penalty of 5 years for anyone caught sending money, it seems not only directly to casinos but to intermediaries as well, with the intent to gamble, including players. It also seems that Intermediaries such as Neteller can simply be flagged or hit with an injunction by the Justice Department which will prevent all transfers (gambling and non-gambling) to them from the US.

Whether this will cover casinos and poker is very ambiguous as it says "IN GENERAL.-The term 'unlawful internet gambling' means to place, receive, or otherwise knowingly transmit a bet or wager by any means which involves use, at least in part, of the Internet where such bet or wager is unlawful under any applicable Federal or State law in the State or Tribal lands in which the bet or wager is initiated, received, or otherwise made." This is unclear but my read is that any type of wagering... including casinos and poker, that is illegal at the federal, state, or shit tribal level will also be guilty of violation of this new law so it may only include casinos and poker rooms on a state by state (tribe by tribe?) basis in the abscence of a clear federal law. It would seem that Peter Dicks would have been in some hot water if his arrest happened a few months from now after this bill goes into effect.

It looks like webmasters may be off the hook as it says "BUSINESS OR BETTING OR WAGERING.--The term 'business of betting or wagering' does not include the activeities of a financial transaction providor, or any interactive computer service or telecommunications service." I assume 'interactive computer service' includes websites.

Hard to say how this will playout...

It's still the Goodlatte bill that is the nuclear bomb... let's hope that one doesn't come back after the election for a floor vote in the Senate. Even if it doesn't, this is not a safe envoronment for the major casino and especially sportsbook operators becuase with so many conservative judges on the Federal Courts, not to mention on the Supreme Court, the US DOJ can interpret the existing Wire Act however they want. Plus now they really have to worry about state law. Only time will tell if they go after a Poker or Casino operation. I think they were holding back becuase if they try and it's rejected by the courts due to the ambiguity in the Wire Act, that's tantamount to a greenlight to casinos. But if state law can invoke this soon-to-be federal law, things will become messy indeed. Sportsbooks look to be totally screwed anyway you look at it as investigators can simply take bets via a DSL connection which any way you cut it is a telephone line.

Hell if I can tell how this will play out... any lawyers in the house?

Rollo

 

[Rollo]

Here is a guy who has read the legislation 10 times and he comes to very different conclusions than me (who skimmed parts of the legislation once).

I'd probably go with his analysis...

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[jetset]

I think I probably would, as well. It's a good, practical analysis imo.

I am not as sanguine as he about the ISPs being left alone, but I take his point that Neteller could well make a purely corporate (not being subject to US law) decision to exclude American clientele.

I also believe there is going to be considerable debate over the implementation of this nonsense - the banks do not appear to be keen at all, and one gets the feeling that the 270 day consultation period on implementation was put in as a political sop to banking reservations. What happens if these measures turn out to impractical in implementation?

Whether a law can be effectively implemented would, one would think, be an important discussion before legislation rather than after the fact!

 

[jetset]

Regarding the combined Goodlatte-Leach bill that passed the House, I would be surprised if they managed to bring it forward successfully during the "lame duck" end of Congress issues.

With the passage of the Frist measure they have already achieved some success and the rightists may be content with that.

The fact that there was opposition at Senate level that led to it languishing (probably the reason why Frist et al resorted to the stealth approach of the compromise measure attached to the Port Security Bill) suggests to me that it could have a rough ride with time running out rapidly and an agenda full of other and more important matters.

 

[SlotsWizard]

...the banks do not appear to be keen at all...
What happens if these measures turn out too impractical in implementation?

Personally, I have a hard time believing that the banks and such will be unable to block NETeller and similar services.

May I remind you of a thread started elsewhere in this forum where we learned that some banks have already been policing their customer accounts by voluntarily declining NETeller transactions. Surely it cannot be all that difficult to do. Just look for incoming transactions which begin with "NT888-258-5859" or "NT888.258.5859" and decline them. Unfortunately, it's quite simple.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/big-neteller-problems.13646/

 

[Darem1]

The end of Intercasino for me

Well, that does it for me. Although I haven't been gaming recently, I had planned on going back to Intercasino in the future when finances would permit. I tried a variety of other casinos, and liked Intercasino the best.
In fact, it was the only casino where I really won. Unfortunately, since I live in the US, I can no longer deposit at Crypto casinos. Guess this is more important to my government than reining in the child molesters in their own midst up in D.C.

 

[Peaceful1]

The aftermath...

I received this email.. text below:

"Cindy,

I'm not sure if you're aware of the recent developments in US online
gaming industry. In short, the US government has passed a law
that would prohibit banks, credit card companies, and other
financial institutions from processing gambling funds. This
controversial act was attached to a popular and completely
unrelated bill regarding Port Security (HR 4954) early Saturday morning.
In this way, the act was passed because representatives were more
concerned with the major bill being made law and knew only in the
final minutes of the attachment.

It does not make it illegal for US citizens to play online, however
drastically affects your ability to enjoy your favorite poker and
casino games by making it difficult to send and receive your
deposits and winnings.

In light of these events, our software and ECash provider for
Omni Casino: CryptoLogic and ECashDirect, have recently made
the decision to no longer service US registered accounts.

Consequently, all accounts with US based addresses will no longer
be able to play in the casino or poker room as of 12PM EST today
October 3rd.

Your account will however be available for you to log into and
request a withdrawal of your available balance.

All other accounts with non US based addresses will remain
unaffected.

Currently it is unclear as to the longer term ramifications of
these events at CryptoLogic and should the position change, we
will notify you.

Our sister casino 49er Casino (

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a different provider, Real Time Gaming (RTG), has indicated their
commitment to continue before.

Persons from all geographical areas are still able to register
new accounts, collect the 100% new player and other bonuses,
and continue to enjoy their favorite casino games. The preferred
deposit method is with NETeller however other methods are available.

Thanks for your time.

Regards

Customer Service Team
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Of course, Neteller is not available in Maryland, where I reside.

Most confusing part about this...I recently cashed out with Intercasino, which also uses ECash.. I received the check by courier yesterday, and was still out of town so it is at my leasing office. The question here, will I still be able to cash it?? If legality comes into play, technically it was won and the withdrawal request was made BEFORE this legislation was passed.. and the legislation is still not effective as it has not been signed by the President and the effective date therefore has not occurred..but will ECash see it this way? Any info/opinions are appreciated.

 

[Westland Bowl]

Cynthia777, you should be able to cash that check. I'll have to dig around amongst the various posting to find my posting where I answer another person's posting regarding checks. Damn, it's getting hard to remember which thread I posted what anymore on this internet ban thingy.

Ok here:

In Professor Rose's analysis:

5363 No person engaged in the business of betting or wagering may knowingly accept any money transfers in any way from a person participating in unlawful Internet gambling. This includes credit cards, electronic fund transfers, and even paper checks. But it is limited to Internet gambling businesses, not mere players. It also would not cover payment processors, except under a theory of aiding and abetting............

The Act allows the federal regulators to exempt transactions where it would be impractical to require identifying and blocking. This obviously applies to paper checks. Banks have no way now of reading who the payee is on paper checks and cannot be expected to go into that business. Banks tried to defeat this bill, not because they cared about patrons privacy, but because they knew that it would cost them billions of dollars to set up systems to read paper checks.

 

[lots0]

Professor Rose's analysis is flawed and only partial, it is also geared toward operators of casinos and not the players.

The soon to be law, does require banks to identify and block ALL online casino transactions.

Westland Bowl is working on wishful thinking.

 

[Peaceful1]

we'll have to get down to the nitty gritty then and go to a check-cashing place and/or liquor store

Sorry, but I'm just as pissed off about this as anyone else..since I am a gambler at heart

 

[Westland Bowl]

Professor Rose's analysis is flawed, incorrect and only partial, it is also geared toward operators of casinos and not the players.

The soon to be law, does require banks to identify and block ALL online casino transactions.

Westland Bowl is working on wishful thinking.

Why are you using such strong language like you are mad at me or something? You can say "I disagree with that" or something instead of accusing me of wishful thinking.

Ok, in Section 5364 (b)(3), it states "The Secretary and Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System shall....exempt certain restricted transactions [checks is one of them] or designated payment systems from any requirement imposed under such regulations, if the Secretary and the Board jointly find that it is not reasonably practical to identify and block, or otherwise prevent or prohibit the acceptance of, such transactions..."

Professor Rose was saying that banks have fought in the past of having to do such things like this as it is very costly to try to do so. Can banks still try to do so? Of course. But based on history, not wishful thinking, it isn't likely to happen. BUUUT you can be right in the end, lotso. These are certainly different times.

 

[The Dude]

Hi Cynthia,

You should have no problem cashing that check. It's from eCash Direct and not from "Omnicasino.com". Who says they are from winnings anyway? You could have done a consulting job for them and this is your fee.

Go ahead and cash it and spend it well

 

[lots0]

Why are you using such strong language like you are mad at me or something

No I am not mad at you and yes I am mad at 'somthing', I am watching ten years of my work go down the drain, along with 90% of my income. Sorry if you think my wording is a little strong.

WB - just read the law for yourself or better yet hire a 'real' attorney, like I did, to give you the real info.

CM is right, cash the check, the new law won't go into effect until after the first of year at the soonest and it will even be longer before the Banks have created the ability to identify all types of payments to or from a casino.

 

[Peaceful1]

FRIDAY OCT. 13TH- deadline for pass/veto

Wouldn't you know it? Friday the 13th is the deadline for the President to pass or veto the bill in which Frist's provision is attached.

The bill was presented to Bush on October 3rd..under the legislative process of enactment of a law the President has 10 days in which to sign or veto and/or move for reconsideration or ask for a postponement.

I will post this under similar threads so all can see.

Let's just hope it's a "Friday the 13th" for Frist and his supporters...not for us!

 

[sdaddy]

Let's just hope it's a "Friday the 13th" for Frist and his supporters...not for us!

I think the Republicans on Capitol Hill are already imploding because of this Foley scandal, Cynthia. That's karma doing it's work, I believe.

 

[Simmo!]

I'm not sure if you're aware of the recent developments in US online gaming industry.

Why? What's happened?

 

[Peaceful1]

Simmo!- at first I was like "Huh??" when I saw your post with the quote..but that was a quote from an email sent to me by Peak entertainment.. the "form letter" somewhat from Crypto/Wagerlogic after this Frist business, resulting in those casinos decided to stop accepting U.S. player's wagers (Omni, Intercasino, etc)

 

[Simmo!]

Simmo!- at first I was like "Huh??" when I saw your post with the quote..but that was a quote from an email sent to me by Peak entertainment.. the "form letter" somewhat from Crypto/Wagerlogic after this Frist business, resulting in those casinos decided to stop accepting U.S. player's wagers (Omni, Intercasino, etc)

LOL. Sorry Cynthia - British humour again...I must stop that

 

[Peaceful1]

no prob... we need light-hearted sense of humor at times.. guess I get way too serious and caught up

 

[MrVan]

i don't know if this has been mentioned before, but does anyone else think it's strange/ironic that it's called H.R. 4777?

 

[Zodiac]

Hi there,

today i received this mail from Villento.

I don't know if that anyone had postet here, i have not seen yet.

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With all the sensationalism in the news, you may be wondering how the new bill will affect your ability to wager online at Villento.
The new Bill did not make online casinos illegal and did not have any legal impact on players; players will not be guilty of an offence under this Bill. The Bill referred to illegal gaming operations, which online casino and poker rooms have never been proven to be. Only online Sports Betting operations have been illegal in terms of the Federal Wire Act.
In time the Bill may have an impact on a players ability to make deposits, however it remains to be seen what measures are introduced to enforce this bill and what measures are actually effective.
In addition the industry is monitoring what effect (if any) the bill will have on the Alternative Payment Processors such as Neteller, Click 2 Pay, Firepay, Citadel etc, and how they are able to structure their operations so that they can continue to take deposits. These are extremely reputable payment organizations and it is likely that they will remain committed to finding solutions to allow players to deposit. Over the past years, the majority of online players have already moved from using credit cards to using one or more of these trusted alternative solutions.
In all likelihood it will be at least 1 1 years before we see some measures being effectively applied (the proponents of the bill have allowed 270 days for possible restrictive measures to be developed, and attempts to implement the measures are likely to take even longer).
Villento remains committed to its USA players and will continue to provide an exemplary gaming experience. Villento will always honor all payouts and withdrawals, and will always uphold the high standards that are required in being a Microgaming licensed casino.


Zodiac

 

[Tailgun]

The new Bill did not make online casinos illegal and did not have any legal impact on players; players will not be guilty of an offence under this Bill. The Bill referred to illegal gaming operations, which online casino and poker rooms have never been proven to be. Only online Sports Betting operations have been illegal in terms of the Federal Wire Act.

In time the Bill may have an impact on a player’s ability to make deposits, however it remains to be seen what measures are introduced to enforce this bill and what measures are actually effective.

In addition the industry is monitoring what effect (if any) the bill will have on the Alternative Payment Processors such as Neteller, Click 2 Pay, Firepay, Citadel etc, and how they are able to structure their operations so that they can continue to take deposits. These are extremely reputable payment organizations and it is likely that they will remain committed to finding solutions to allow players to deposit. Over the past years, the majority of online players have already moved from using credit cards to using one or more of these trusted alternative solutions.

In all likelihood it will be at least 1 – 1 ½ years before we see some measures being effectively applied (the proponents of the bill have allowed 270 days for possible restrictive measures to be developed, and attempts to implement the measures are likely to take even longer).

This is the smartest, most clear-headed and comprehensive statement I've heard yet from anyone in the industry. It ought be forwarded to every other casino currently packing their bags and closing their doors without so much as a whimper.

 

[Westland Bowl]

The new Bill did not make online casinos illegal and did not have any legal impact on players; players will not be guilty of an offence under this Bill.

Right on! You got that right! Some casinos are pre-maturely closing without taking in the long-term picture. But I do realize some of the publicly-traded companies have to do some immediate window-dressing to appease their stakeholders.

The Bill referred to illegal gaming operations, which online casino and poker rooms have never been proven to be. Only online Sports Betting operations have been illegal in terms of the Federal Wire Act.

Exactly! The media, certain congressmen and uninformed public keep thinking and repeating the mantra that online casino gambling is illiegal in US. It's not. The courts determined it so.

In time the Bill may have an impact on a players ability to make deposits, however it remains to be seen what measures are introduced to enforce this bill and what measures are actually effective.

In addition the industry is monitoring what effect (if any) the bill will have on the Alternative Payment Processors such as Neteller, Click 2 Pay, Firepay, Citadel etc, and how they are able to structure their operations so that they can continue to take deposits. These are extremely reputable payment organizations and it is likely that they will remain committed to finding solutions to allow players to deposit. Over the past years, the majority of online players have already moved from using credit cards to using one or more of these trusted alternative solutions.

Yes, it's a matter of seeing what moves the banks make and then make counter-moves while staying within the law.

In all likelihood it will be at least 1 1 years before we see some measures being effectively applied (the proponents of the bill have allowed 270 days for possible restrictive measures to be developed, and attempts to implement the measures are likely to take even longer).

Yes, there's time to see what needs to be done, with careful planning.

Villento remains committed to its USA players and will continue to provide an exemplary gaming experience. Villento will always honor all payouts and withdrawals, and will always uphold the high standards that are required in being a Microgaming licensed casino.

Zodiac

Thanks, Villento, for keeping your head on straight while some others lose theirs.

 

[kmartinusa]

I have even worse news.

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[jetset]

Good for you, Villento!

An excellent summary of the situation, Villento - good on you for standing up for the US player and refusing to be cowed by these damned politicians.

 

[jetset]

This is the smartest, most clear-headed and comprehensive statement I've heard yet from anyone in the industry. It ought be forwarded to every other casino currently packing their bags and closing their doors without so much as a whimper.

I agree, and we'll be doing our bit to do just that.

 

[RobWin]

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[casino employee]

This thread was a little too long to read in its entirety so I apologise in advance if what I post has been written before:

a) is there any chance to use the ACLU to combat the proposed legislation, on the grounds that it violates "civil liberties"?

b) even as a supporter of the war on terror (and really, who isn't?), I have to conceed that the manner in which this law passed both houses (on the back of true anti-terror legislation), plays into the hands of those who (rightfully) maintain that Bush/the Republicans have used the war on terror to justify policies not connected to it at all.


My 2 cents.....

 

[jon593]

This thread was a little too long to read in its entirety so I apologise in advance if what I post has been written before:

a) is there any chance to use the ACLU to combat the proposed legislation, on the grounds that it violates "civil liberties"?

b) even as a supporter of the war on terror (and really, who isn't?), I have to conceed that the manner in which this law passed both houses (on the back of true anti-terror legislation), plays into the hands of those who (rightfully) maintain that Bush/the Republicans have used the war on terror to justify policies not connected to it at all.


My 2 cents.....

i will quote bush here. " the hardest part of my job is trying to connect the war in iraq to the war on terror" even bush has inadvertantly admitted to using the war on terror to get away with shit

 

[Tester]

A bill for teaching everyone money laundering

A bill for teaching everyone money laundering

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I will summarize.

Most people do not even know what an offshore bank is, and certainly do not have the knowledge and guts to open one. This is the reason why most of us do not escape taxes or other very beneficial (but illegal) stuff.

With the gambling bill every gambler will learn how to move funds overseas, move funds into the US from overseas and all the other tricks.

Once it becomes common knowledge, many people will certainly use their experince etc, to avoid other laws like taxes and more.

Even the war on terror is damaged. with millions of Americans transferring funds outside the eyes of the American government, can you find the terrorist between them?

 

[Jon-Jon]

Oh dear, it seems that we have posted everywhere else except here with regards to this issue

GrandMonaco is in the same position as Villento and we continue to accept and honor all our US players, and will keep both our players and affiliates in the loop as to what is happening.

What was not mentioned is that there is a possibility (in keeping and upholding the spirit of the law) of electing to exclude players from stats that have specifically outlawed online gaming. These states are:

Michigan
Illinois
Louisiana
Oregon
Wisconsin
Washington
Indiana
Nevada
South Dakota

And as previously mentioned - it will take at least 9 months for anything to really take effect and in that time alternative systems will be in place.

 

[Westland Bowl]

What was not mentioned is that there is a possibility (in keeping and upholding the spirit of the law) of electing to exclude players from stats that have specifically outlawed online gaming. These states are:

Michigan......

My home state banned online gambling?? Dam, I guess I won't move back then! Crap! But yet they approved land-based casinos all over the state! They must have breathed too much exhaust fumes or there must have been something in the Amway soap!

 

[Weedlayer]

I'm at a loss why casinos suddenly are including Michigan in the banned states list. All I can find is this law passed in 1999. The emphasis is mine.

Michigan is the prime example. The Michigan Legislature passed a bill, signed into law by the Governor, which was intended to ensure that activities, like bomb threats, that were already illegal if conducted off-line would also be crimes if conducted on the Internet. On November 3, 1999, the Michigan House of Representatives passed a different bill, HB 4689, with the stated purpose of making it a felony to accept a bet on the Internet. This bill attracted considerable attention and debate, because it contained a clause that would have expressly allowed Michigan licensed gaming operations to take bets on the Internet. A month later SB 562 sailed quickly through both houses with little discussion and was signed into law by Gov. John Engler. SB 562 was broader than HB 4689: it prohibits many crimes from being conducted on the Internet, beyond just gambling. However, the crimes are not given names as in the House bill; rather, the new law prohibits the use of the Internet to commit or attempt a list of specified crimes, defined purely by references to existing statutes. Gambling on the Internet, for example, is not expressly prohibited; SB 562 only makes it a crime to use a computer for communicating with a person with the purpose of ACommitting, attempting to commit, conspiring to commit, or soliciting another person to commit conduct proscribed under section 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 305a, or 311 of this act [1931 PA 328, which created the Michigan criminal code] or section 18 of the Michigan gaming control and revenue act, the Initiated Law of 1996, MCL 432.218.@ Those sections listed are the state=s anti-gambling statutes. But, those sections expressly define gambling as not including all forms of legalized gambling in the state. This means that the prohibition on using the Internet for gambling is far from universal: Michigan=s State Lottery, racetracks, bingo and casinos do not even have to seek a second approval from the Legislature, as they would have had to under HB 4689, to play their games online.

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[Zodiac]

Hi all,

this is the Press Release that Grand Monaco send all to his US Players:

Dear (first name),

With all the chatter in the news about the Internet Gambling Act, you may be wondering how this will affect your ability to wager online at Grand Monaco.

The new Bill does not make online casinos illegal and players will not be guilty of an offense. The Bill refers to illegal gaming operations in which online casinos have never been proven. Online Sports Betting operations are illegal under the Federal Wire Act but we are not operating with those products so it has no effect on us.

In time, the Bill will impact a player's ability to purchase with credit cards and other methods; however, we are uncertain of the ultimate effect and the response of the banking community.

Our industry is monitoring the effects of the Alternative Payment Processors such as NETeller, Click 2 Pay, Citadel etc. These are extremely reputable payment organizations and they are committed to finding solutions to allow players to deposit. Over the past years, the majority of online players have already moved from using credit cards to using one or more of these trusted alternative solutions.

In all likelihood it will be some time before we see measures being effectively applied to stop transacting. The bill even states that the banking community has 270 days (that is 9 months!) for possible restrictive measures to be developed.

Grand Monaco is committed to its USA players and will continue to exceed your expectations in your gaming experience. We always honor payouts and withdrawals, and always apply the highest standards as a member of the licensed Microgaming family.

Best wishes
Frank Thompson

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Zodiac

 

[Weedlayer]

Another one bites the dust

Just got an email that Vegas Splendido has locked my account. It reads as follows:

Dear (name)

Due to the recent passing of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act by the US Government on 30th September 2006, we are unfortunately no longer able to accept bets from players within your state. As a result and with regret we are forced to close your casino account xxxxxxxxxxxx. The balance on your account at the time of it being closed was $0. This amount will be processed back to you, by no later than 20 October 2006, using your preferred method of payment or the most recent method used. Please note that any payment below $20 will need to be processed via Neteller.

We thank you very much for patronage and hope that sometime in the future we will again be able to accept bets from your state.

Many Thanks

Vegas Splendido Online Casino

Hey online casinos, listen up:

Nothing has changed in my state since the passage of this federal bill, which has not even been enacted into law yet! Michigan has no explicit ban on internet gambling either before or after the federal law.

 

[lots0]

Vegas Splendido is a Microgaming casino.

interesting article from the Isle of Man

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[gmblpdam]

I just watched Bush sign the Port Security Bill on C-Span. I guess this is it. Although he never specificaly mentioned online gambling.

 

[silcnlayc]

I feel like throwing up! The lack of movement from the American people to ALLOW this is sickening...!!!

 

[jetset]

We're getting unconfirmed reports that it has been signed with attachments, but we're monitoring the situation. Nothing up on the government enactments page yet but I guess that's a little early still.

Look out for HR 4954.

 

[Lord_Have_Mercy]

Today is the Tomorrow, you thought about Yesterday...so live as IT IS your last tomorrow!

 

[dominique]

It is signed.

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[Simmo!]

It is signed.

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Bugger. I guess there's always the slim chance he spelled his name wrong

 

[jetset]

It's mainstream - this from AP:

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer
35 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush signed a bill Friday to help prevent terrorists from sneaking a nuclear, chemical or germ weapon into the United States inside one of the 11 million shipping containers that enter the nation each year — many without inspection.

"We're going to protect our ports. We're going to defend this homeland, and we're going to win this war on terror," Bush said.

The president used the bill-signing ceremony to assert that Republicans are tough on terror, a key issue in congressional elections just less than four weeks away.

He didn't mention an unrelated provision that seeks to put teeth into laws that forbid most online gambling. Instead, Bush focused on the multiple ways the legislation tightens security and closes a loophole in anti-terror defenses, especially at ports.

He noted that the SAFE Port Act authorizes the development of high-tech inspection equipment so customs agents can check cargo containers for dangerous materials without having to open them. It requires radiation-detection technology at 22 of the nation's busiest ports by the end of next year.

"We'll do everything we can to prevent an attack, but if the terrorists succeed in launching an attack, we'll be ready to respond," Bush said.

The president said the bill codifies the Container Security Initiative, which deploys U.S. inspectors to dozens of foreign ports on five continents where they can screen cargo bound for the United States. He said it also codifies the Customs Trade Partnership Against Terrorism, a joint public-private sector initiative in which private shippers agree to improve their own security measures and in return can receive benefits, including expedited clearance through U.S. ports.

Bush also noted that the bill provides additional authority for the Domestic Nuclear Detection Office, which was established to guard against the threat of terrorists smuggling a nuclear device into the country. And the act requires the Department of Homeland Security to establish a plan to speed the resumption of trade in the event of a terrorist attack on a U.S. port or waterway.

"This bill makes clear that the federal government has the authority to clear waterways, identify cleanup equipment and re-establish the flow of commerce following a terrorist attack," the president said.

 

[Peaceful1]

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Correct, nothing was mentioned specifically about the provisions attached concerning Internet gambling. I am anxious to see the complete text of this as Public Law (if anything had been sent back to be amended and "stricken" during that 10-day period). If I come across anything this evening, will update ASAP

 

[silcnlayc]

Lord_Have_Mercy: Today is the Tomorrow, you thought about Yesterday...so live as IT IS your last tomorrow!

I did, and I cashed out and now I am worried sick I won't get paid...geezes!!! I guess Bush finally showed that he actually is in bed with Frist and Foley since Foley was Frist's best friend and now Frist is Bushes.. what a sickening circle!