EwalletXpress

[vinylweatherman]

I got this e-mail yesterday from EWX:

Dear Valued Customer,

This message is in response to a withdrawal request you issued to our companyvia LiveChat, phone, or email some time ago. As you may already be aware, ourservice has been suspended since November 12th by the United States Governmentas part of an ongoing investigation. Effective that date, our funds were seizedand we have been unable to process withdrawals to customers as the money is nolonger in our custody or control. We are currently in negotations with theUnited States Government regarding the return of these funds, and are makingevery effort to have this matter resolved as quickly as possible.

At this time we would like to apologize for any inconvenience suffered -- weappreciate both your patience and understanding while we work towards aresolution. Your request is still in queue and as further details regardingyour account and withdrawal become available, you will be notified via email.If you have received duplicate copies of this message, please note that wecurrently have more than one withdrawal request on file for you. These requestswill be merged, and you may disregard any duplicate correspondence.

Thank you
Customer Support Team
eWalletXpress

IF Pokerstars can negotiate payments within 3 weeks of their accounts being taken over by the DOJ, why can't EWX after 6 months? Now I guess we just wait and see.

LH

EWX also spent two months saying it was merely "technical issues", whereas with the poker rooms, players were told what had happened almost the same day as the seizures. I can't understand why EWX is so different from the others, whereby we only have their word that it was the US government, something they were denying for 2 months.

For some reason, the parties involved are stalling, a bit like AP, whereas the other pokerrooms have managed to negotiate a way to pay US players their balances within a couple of weeks.

The US government, unlike with the recent cases, still has nothing on official record to confirm what EWX is telling their customers.

Bryan has seen a copy of the seizure notice I believe, so this at least seems to have been confirmed. Negotiations have stalled, and it seems getting customers' their money is NOT the most important thing on the agenda.

 

[all4greed]

No email for me.

 

[Mousey]

Anyone living outside the US with money tied up in EWX??

How about writing to our DOJ with a copy of that email from EWX and ask them where the hell is your money?

 

[cpdnd31]

This is what is confusing me.. E wallet express was seized by DOJ. OK got that but why are the European customers being effected as well? When DOJ seized the poker sites it was business as usual with other countries.. Could it be that the DOJ has fined them so much that they can't pay? Can it be that the DOJ shut them down completely because they serviced USA. But if they did why wouldn't other countries complain and say take USA money but give back to our countries. Could it be E wallet is what caused poker sites to get hit and that's why no mention of it anywhere...... Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.

 

[vinylweatherman]

This is what is confusing me.. E wallet express was seized by DOJ. OK got that but why are the European customers being effected as well? When DOJ seized the poker sites it was business as usual with other countries.. Could it be that the DOJ has fined them so much that they can't pay? Can it be that the DOJ shut them down completely because they serviced USA. But if they did why wouldn't other countries complain and say take USA money but give back to our countries. Could it be E wallet is what caused poker sites to get hit and that's why no mention of it anywhere...... Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.

I doubt many non-US customers used EWX when they had safer options available to them.

I was even offered a QT account by a casino, but declined this offer because I had access to much safer eWallet options.

It is probably Canadian customers that form the largest group of non-US users, as many other eWallets pulled out of Canada after the US threw them out.

It seems there is an official hush-up of the whole EWX affair, so maybe they ARE using information gathered from EWX to target other operations, and somehow EWX has been coerced into cooperating with the DoJ.

The truth can't hide forever though, because customers will keep on trying to find out what happened to their money.

 

[felicie]

Remember back even before Neteller departed, Paypal gave up it's data base to the Feds. I imagine they can be very convincing at times.

 

[Mousey]

Personally, I always suspected EWX and ECheckUS of being DOJ/FBI sites. They are not above operating illegally to get what they want.

But then I tend to be a bit paranoid about such things....

 

[felicie]

Personally, I always suspected EWX and ECheckUS of being DOJ/FBI sites. They are not above operating illegally to get what they want.

But then I tend to be a bit paranoid about such things....

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not screwing you.

 

[jod5413]

Personally, I always suspected EWX and ECheckUS of being DOJ/FBI sites. They are not above operating illegally to get what they want.

But then I tend to be a bit paranoid about such things....

Oh crap!! I am in deep trouble if that is true. I had accounts at both of them. sigh

 

[footdr]

What I would do

If I had money in ewalletexpress I would dispute my deposits to my account up to the amount owed me. It will work if it has been 60 days or less (dispute everything deposited within past 60 days if it equals what they owe you).

Also, they will not dispute the chargeback because legally they can't without implicating themselves.

Worth a try.

NOW, I fear same situation occuring at quicktender so get your money out of there ASAP

 

[FreeDomme]

If I had money in ewalletexpress I would dispute my deposits to my account up to the amount owed me. It will work if it has been 60 days or less (dispute everything deposited within past 60 days if it equals what they owe you).

Also, they will not dispute the chargeback because legally they can't without implicating themselves.

Worth a try.

NOW, I fear same situation occuring at quicktender so get your money out of there ASAP

Maybe not so well thought out.
Apples and Oranges.
Quicktender is operating legally so our funds are safe.

 

[Mousey]

Maybe not so well thought out.
Apples and Oranges.
Quicktender is operating legally so our funds are safe.

How is QT any more 'legal' than any other ewallet that processes ONLY payments to casinos?

 

[FreeDomme]

How is QT any more 'legal' than any other ewallet that processes ONLY payments to casinos?

They aren't subject to US law nor 'located' in a jurisdiction easily bullied.

 

[lots0]

How is QT any more 'legal' than any other ewallet that processes ONLY payments to casinos?

Because the way payments are made falls outside the authority of the UGIEA...

 

[footdr]

Because the way payments are made falls outside the authority of the UGIEA...

Actually UIGEA and basic moneylaundering laws make it illegal for processor or 3rd party processor including Ewallets to "assist" in the transaction. Doesn't matter where they are located. They assisted in delivery of the funds to a u.s. bank account.

I assume Click2pay still getting away with processing as they don't allow withdrawals to u.s. bank accounts AND they happen to be owned by the largest German bank(biggest issuer of M/C and Visa

 

[lots0]

Actually UIGEA and basic moneylaundering laws make it illegal for processor or 3rd party processor including Ewallets to "assist" in the transaction. Doesn't matter where they are located. They assisted in delivery of the funds to a u.s. bank account.

I assume Click2pay still getting away with processing as they don't allow withdrawals to u.s. bank accounts AND they happen to be owned by the largest German bank(biggest issuer of M/C and Visa

Who is talking about location... not me.

The UGIEA is very specific in just what types of financial transactions are covered under it. Some types of financial transactions are specifically exempted from the UGIEA... Therefore, some types of transactions are completely and totally legal.

You really think your doing something illegal don't you... lol, I hope this don't kill all the excitement for you but..... your not... lol
(disclaimer - Not a Lawyer - but I got a bunch of em in the Family )

 

[footdr]

Whats you problem?

Who is talking about location... not me.

The UGIEA is very specific in just what types of financial transactions are covered under it. Some types of financial transactions are specifically exempted from the UGIEA... Therefore, some types of transactions are completely and totally legal.

You really think your doing something illegal don't you... lol, I hope this don't kill all the excitement for you but..... your not... lol
(disclaimer - Not a Lawyer - but I got a bunch of em in the Family )

Originally Posted by lots0
Because the way payments are made falls outside the authority of the UGIEA

The way QT makes the payments is the exact same way as all the other ewallets that have gone down.

And I never said you where talking about location. I was stating the facts. UIGEA covers overseas companies that assist in any part of a transactions that is illegal under UIGEA, RICO ACT and other money laundering laws. Not to mention fraud. Check that with your bunch of lawyers.

And I am not worried as at this point the law only applies to financial institutions and payment processors and the casinos that contract with and assist in the transaction.

So, don't put words in my mouth and don't think you have the slightest idea what I am thinking.

Don't go on another rampage attacking everyone for know reason.

 

[felicie]

The way QT makes the payments is the exact same way as all the other ewallets that have gone down.

And I never said you where talking about location. I was stating the facts. UIGEA covers overseas companies that assist in any part of a transactions that is illegal under UIGEA, RICO ACT and other money laundering laws. Not to mention fraud. Check that with your bunch of lawyers.

And I am not worried as at this point the law only applies to financial institutions and payment processors and the casinos that contract with and assist in the transaction.

So, don't put words in my mouth and don't think you have the slightest idea what I am thinking.

Don't go on another rampage attacking everyone for know reason.

Everyone? No I think it's pretty narrowed down to a specific few but then that's just my opinion.

 

[footdr]

Those that process gambling transactions

Everyone? No I think it's pretty narrowed down to a specific few but then that's just my opinion.

They process using the same proceedures Neteller, FirePay,Click2pay and ewalletxpress did. Naturally I was not speaking to ewallets that do not process "high risk" merchant payments.

Sorry if I didn't make that clear

 

[lots0]

The fact is footdr you don't know what your talking about.

I have read the UGIEA front to back a dozen or more times. I have also paid tens of thousands of dollars to lawyers to interpret the UGIEA... not to mention that this is my business... Not a hobby.

and you have spent some time on a couple of forums...and used an ewallet... I guess you think that makes you a REAL expert on the subject... lol

Please continue to try to educate the masses on a subject you obviously know very very little about... It makes you look really smart.

 

[felicie]

Lots0 who the hell do you think you are being so rude to someone whose just trying to help. You did the same thing to me the other day in the QT thread and then had the balls to tell me I was being catty. You jumped my ass every post I made and I've got news for you bud, I've been dealing with these payment processors and banks for a few years myself the same as footdr so you need to just back your ass up because you're obviously not as smart as you think you are since you are the one with 15k of 'Business money' tied up in an online gambling transaction.

 

[jod5413]

Lots0 who the hell do you think you are being so rude to someone whose just trying to help. You did the same thing to me the other day in the QT thread and then had the balls to tell me I was being catty. You jumped my ass every post I made and I've got news for you bud, I've been dealing with these payment processors and banks for a few years myself the same as footdr so you need to just back your ass up because you're obviously not as smart as you think you are since you are the one with 15k of 'Business money' tied up in an online gambling transaction.

Ouch!!!

 

[sneakygood]

I have a lot of money in EWX just sitting there in limbo. I called the US Attorneys Office of Rod J. Rosenstein last week. I asked if someone there knew anything about about EWX funds being seized by the US government. I was transferred to someone knowledgeable and was told that yes the funds had been seized. I asked if the US citizens money would be returned and he said that he thought it would. He actually said "he said he would return the money" as if he was referring to the owner of EWX. He ended the phone call with "good luck". The man was professional and helpful.

When ewx stopped operation they were still manning the chat window. They are no longer maintaining a chat. When Neteller ceased servicing U.S. customers they had 94 milliion in U.S. funds. If ewx has 1/10 it is still in the millions. Where are all the U.S. players who have lost money? I have several thousand there and I'm sure there are many others. Ewx says they have been seized by the U. S. government. Has anyone seen anything that would prove that? I'm worried that they are simply going to abscond with our money. If anyone has any information I would love to hear it.

 

[all4greed]

I have a lot of money in EWX just sitting there in limbo. I called the US Attorneys Office of Rod J. Rosenstein last week. I asked if someone there knew anything about about EWX funds being seized by the US government. I was transferred to someone knowledgeable and was told that yes the funds had been seized. I asked if the US citizens money would be returned and he said that he thought it would. He actually said "he said he would return the money" as if he was referring to the owner of EWX. He ended the phone call with "good luck". The man was professional and helpful.

Why did you contact the Maryland office instead of Texas? Just curious.

 

[anniemac]

Probably because he wanted to talk to someone that had a clue.

Ever see the movie "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas"? Remember the senator/congressman (can't remember what he was) that sang about 'doing the Texas sidestep', well that's what we got for officials.

Good old boys that can talk circles around you and never say a damn thing.