Evolution Live Roulette - the most awesome thread of conspiracy theorists

[goatwack]

Nothing much going on here. Just wanted the 1000th post in this thread.
Cheers!

And for your dedication and passion we've all chipped in and got you these golden Roulette balls.

To use as a keyring, or maybe 'chance it' on the old tables

 

[Borgie]

And for your dedication and passion we've all chipped in and got you these golden Roulette balls.

To use as a keyring, or maybe 'chance it' on the old tables

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You been giving your golden balls away again !!

 

[Devontheman]

Played live evolution roulette like what kelpa played it’s quite exiting lost £50 all I kept getting was next door got one hit for 36 pound on my second deposit so still down next door everytime why is that kelpa?

 

[bradztheman]

So now 'play tech' offering me £50 cash to predict the outcome of tomorrows fa cup game between Arsenal v Man u !! Again, i thought play tech were the casino dealers and company the casino's get broadcast from, didnt realise they had anything to do with paddypower sports. This is nice, but dont understand how they have to power to credit my account. I go to play roulette and a Cliff from playtech chat asked me for my prediction. Again its great but dont know how they can offer that..

 

[TheAddict]

Finally a proper test for wee oli gunnar.
I'm a LFC supporter. so sorry, i cannot wish u luck ;p

 

[bradztheman]

Finally a proper test for wee oli gunnar.
I'm a LFC supporter. so sorry, i cannot wish u luck ;p

I'm a Plymouth fan, so i'd like to say i'm a neutral, but i do think united will win again to be honest.

 

[kelapa]

Yep, United got this.

 

[TheAddict]

I'm a Plymouth fan, so i'd like to say i'm a neutral, but i do think united will win again to be honest.

Just watchin last ten mins on motd.
*grumbles something incoherent* ..Grats on your 50 bones!

 

[bradztheman]

Just watchin last ten mins on motd.
*grumbles something incoherent* ..Grats on your 50 bones!

Thanks, it lasted all of 4 minutes unfortunately. 4 spins around voisins on roulette, lost all 4 in a row

 

[kelapa]

Thanks, it lasted all of 4 minutes unfortunately. 4 spins around voisins on roulette, lost all 4 in a row

Yep, Evolution got this.

 

[neilw]

So get this..

I play alot of paddypower, with has the playtech platform.

Not sure if any of you have seen the new casino layout, but on the left there is a button called 'host', if you click it you can speak to a PLAYTECH live chat rep.

I did this, asking what its all about etc, its literally nothing to do with paddypower, but i asked for a free bonus of goodwill, richard the live chat host literally said ok no problem and credited a £50 bonus to my account with no wagering requirements!!

HOW can playtech do this? Theyre just platform and should have nothing to do with the funds side of things?? They just host the games and produce live footage..

Now this makes me feel like playtech and all the operators ie williamhill paddypower ladbrokes are somehow financially linked through a MASSIVE intergreated system of people placing live bets around the world so they take a cut.

I met with the Head of Live Casino at Playtech last week and he explained what has happened.

Playtech provides a Concierge Service for some of the brands. The host works for Playtech and is executing instructions provided by the brands using the service.

 

[bradztheman]

I met with the Head of Live Casino at Playtech last week and he explained what has happened.

Playtech provides a Concierge Service for some of the brands. The host works for Playtech and is executing instructions provided by the brands using the service.

Oh ok.

This morning i'd like an explanation of what happened...

This spins on a 50/50 chance (there or there abouts)... lost every single one. £400. Just a case of bad luck??

I cant recall ever winning 16 in a row. :/

 

[Borgie]

Oooh my favourite thread is active lol

 

[neilw]

Oh ok.

I cant recall ever winning 16 in a row. :/

If you'd been in the Empire Casino on Thursday last week, and were betting on Red you'd be in the money. I saw 20 consecutive spins land on Red.

 

[bradztheman]

If you'd been in the Empire Casino on Thursday last week, and were betting on Red you'd be in the money. I saw 20 consecutive spins land on Red.

It happens, i know. But what are the actual odds of 16 losses in a row?

 

[bradztheman]

Give up with roulette.

 

[kelapa]

It happens, i know. But what are the actual odds of 16 losses in a row?

Extremely, unrealistically high, apparently.
I've gone over 30 spins (each 50/50) without a win.

Just do what I did and quit playing online roulette. At least with Evolution. There might be a few providers who play fair, but that's your choice.

 

[goatwack]

I suppose if this thread reminds me of something, it'd be the guy in Indiana Jones that guards all the cups for hundreds of years.

Steadfast to the end. Or even this guy

 

[robby811]

Give up with roulette.

Give up with this thread

 

[kelapa]

I suppose if this thread reminds me of something, it'd be the guy in Indiana Jones that guards all the cups for hundreds of years.

I have considered that I simply "choose poorly".

 

[lockinlove]

It happens, i know. But what are the actual odds of 16 losses in a row?

50/50

it either happens or it doesnt

 

[kelapa]

50/50

it either happens or it doesnt

It's actually in 1 in 65536.

As for the odds of losing thirty in a row, those would be 1 in 1073741824.

 

[goatwack]

So 16 reds come in, imagine that sinking feeling after having just placed on Red after

 

[kelapa]

So 16 reds come in, imagine that sinking feeling after having just placed on Red after

The sinking feeling quickly passes after it happens for the 20th or so time (not the 20th red in a row, but the 20th time that you lose 16 times in a row).
Instead, you get the distinct feeling that you've been cheated... which also feels a little sinky, now that I think about it.

 

[bradztheman]

I believe playtech is rigged roulette too. This happened this morning on playtech.

It's certainly 'live roulette' but it doesnt state that they can't or won't use magnets or anything else that can rig for that matter. What i do know is that you can buy certain roulette wheels that slow down the rotar speed. Rrs wheels.

This explains why i lost 16 in a row, around voisins!!!

I noticed the wheel slowing down when it shouldnt have been!!

They use this wheel

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[kelapa]

I don't know about wheels slowing down, but I do know that if the ball happens to land on a winning slot that is right next door to a loser, then you can expect the ball to make a weird little hop into the losing slot, usually a full second after the ball had already settled down and stopped moving.

That does look rather a lot like magnets at work, or something similar.
There's all sorts of clever ways it could be done.

 

[bradztheman]

Read this

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And on the cammegh website they are clearly displaying and showing the product for sale!! All makes sense now, i kept typing in the chat ' just as the ball was going to land around voisins the wheel clearly speeds up or slows down. I always notice it but after a bit of investigation into wheels its now clear to me and i will never play roulette again!!

 

[bradztheman]

They use these exact wheels on paddypower live roulette, PLAYTECH.

 

[bradztheman]

How am i still a newbie member? Ive been registered for 3 years

 

[Borgie]

I don't know about wheels slowing down, but I do know that if the ball happens to land on a winning slot that is right next door to a loser, then you can expect the ball to make a weird little hop into the losing slot, usually a full second after the ball had already settled down and stopped moving.

That does look rather a lot like magnets at work, or something similar.
There's all sorts of clever ways it could be done.

Love love love this thread.

What happens when they are audited? do they hide the magnets ?

 

[goatwack]

Thing is, gently placing my tinfoil hat down so as to avoid crumpling it further, when these balls are magically magnetically telegraphed onto other numbers, are there not other players who have bet on those? So why diddle one player to pay another?

And surely if just left completely alone sans magnet, doesn't the 3% or whatever house edge already make them a steady profit?

 

[goatwack]

Love love love this thread.

What happens when they are audited? do they hide the magnets ?

Audit time at Evolution is a quiet time

 

[bradztheman]

You wouldn't beleive the profit the mafia make from it. Why not make the most of it? Sod the house edge, roulette tables have been rigged for years and technology has been progressing, so why not rig the tables. Where does it or not it not say that the tables can or can't use rrs technology? Forget the magnets, answer that one. Its completely legal as they're advertising such wheels on the website of cammegh.

 

[bradztheman]

No such thing as an audit dont make me laugh

 

[aceking123]

to be fair theyre stating it may lower your revenue using this wheel , i doubt playtech is bothered, evo doesnt use these wheels from what i know.

 

[bradztheman]

Where does it say that?

It says it increases revenue to combat so called 'cheats' finding flaws on the roulette wheel. Lol

 

[aceking123]

Where does it say that?

It says it increases revenue to combat so called 'cheats' finding flaws on the roulette wheel. Lol

Right at the bottom yes they sate this & that but had to add this to cover themselves, also take note once the players find this out it could have a impact on the long term players not willing to use these roulette games.

>>>>>Arguably, games could be made impossible to beat with professional roulette systems. But the impact may be lost player trust, and overall lower revenue. The best weapon to deal with advantage players will probably always be vigilant surveillance, and proper procedures when consistent winners are detected.

 

[bradztheman]

Looks like they're saying 'that' to cover themselves.

Defeats the whole object of the type of roulette wheel else. If you google rrs roulette wheel cheating or something along those terms you'll find alot of discussions about this subject. Did you play the demo video? It even shows how its done..

 

[aceking123]

Looks like they're saying 'that' to cover themselves.

Defeats the whole object of the type of roulette wheel else. If you google rrs roulette wheel cheating or something along those terms you'll find alot of discussions about this subject. Did you play the demo video? It even shows how its done..

yes briefly, i understand it could affect the players, so i wouldnt play it if they are using these wheels , as for evo i doubt they do cheat , ive had my fair share of tin foil hats myself , but am coming round to its just shitty luck thats all.

 

[Borgie]

No such thing as an audit dont make me laugh

Of course there is !!

 

[bradztheman]

yes briefly, i understand it could affect the players, so i wouldnt play it if they are using these wheels , as for evo i doubt they do cheat , ive had my fair share of tin foil hats myself , but am coming round to its just shitty luck thats all.

It can't be shitty luck. Ive seen more than enough roulette spins to now know. I think i'd actually rather play on evolution than playtech now, (if i was going to go back to it) the ball looks like it moves more freely. On playtech roulette tables the ball doesnt move much, seems to be a rubbery ball thats used. You'll know what i mean if you sign up to paddypower and click on the paddypower live roulette table.

 

[goatwack]

So:

Rubbery balls - good

Magnetic balls - bad

 

[Borgie]

So:

Rubbery balls - good

Magnetic balls - bad

You and your balls !! Last time it was Golden Balls . There are a lot of balls for sure !

 

[goatwack]

You and your balls !! Last time it was Golden Balls . There are a lot of balls for sure !

Hey I don't make the Balls Rules

 

[bradztheman]

I hate sticky balls

 

[aceking123]

i understand what your saying bradz , i think the only playtech i play is with betfred & i have not checked the wheel but i shall do, i mainly only play evo i can supply logs of last weekend. but it wouldnt help as it was crap(

 

[bradztheman]

Playtech have around 8/9 tables on paddypower.

The ones i used to play are roulette lounge, and their own branded paddypower live roulette (black wheel), whether its available on other gaming sites im not sure but in my opinion it's the worse wheel

 

[cncas2123]

Thing is, gently placing my tinfoil hat down so as to avoid crumpling it further, when these balls are magically magnetically telegraphed onto other numbers, are there not other players who have bet on those? So why diddle one player to pay another?

And surely if just left completely alone sans magnet, doesn't the 3% or whatever house edge already make them a steady profit?

Ah but what you are forgetting Mr G is that winners never complain, well very rarely.....

 

[bradztheman]

Ah but what you are forgetting Mr G is that winners never complain, well very rarely.....

No, the 3% house edge does not already make them a steady profit.. the mafia are gready and want more.

Roulette wheels have been rigged since the 1920's...

Why stop now?

 

[bradztheman]

I think its all one massive interlinked system which calculates each persons bets. I think if your overall profit marjin is too high, they adjust something on the system to bring it down, at times if you know what i mean