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I seldom play Evolution Roulette and even when I do its all or nothing on either red/black. I win some, lose some and it seems they are fair.
Evolution Live Roulette - the most awesome thread of conspiracy theorists
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neon claws
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You're a hologram.
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Feasibly, would it really be possible to set up a live streamed casino game and rig it? As in literally cheat 1000s of people and totally get away with over a long period. It would require special software, special effects, presenters, producers and assistants all to be in on it, as well as probably every other staff member in the office.
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This is the most awesome thread of casino cheating. Of course it would be possible in this thread
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Of course it is, proven already at least in 3 this kind of threads (original and much longer one have much more passion than this one but this has potential too)
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No, because in those threads its come to light
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Unfortunately I never new or was aware of the most up to date of ways casinos cheat you (conspiracy’s) upon reflection and reading this thread believe want you want to believe I wish I took the red pill
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And some people think they cant fake where the ball lands.
Wake up people, everything is a simulation within a simulation within...etc.
Wake up people, everything is a simulation within a simulation within...etc.
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If only I’d of took not the red pill
Special effects? For what?
Special staff? For what? Nobody needs to know anything. And Just in case. You really think normal Game presenters would care if its rigged or not? They probably hear "its rigged" sentences every day.
I just think they using RNG technology on every table. An influenced ball, legally regulated and licensed. That would explain why the roulette ball freaks out so weird from time to time.
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It happened apparently on Live Blackjack a few years back
Mind you, this thread is about 5 years old, so this case might have been mentioned somewhere in the 60 odd pages.
Mind you, this thread is about 5 years old, so this case might have been mentioned somewhere in the 60 odd pages.
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What are you trying to imply?
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Ever watch the show "The Carbonaro Effect"? I bet this is the same technology that these live online casinos are using through to cameras to manipulate the results. I've noticed if you watch your screen really really closely or record your play and then carefully watch the video. You will notice a pause and a jerk of the live feed. In which I believe the switch in results is being made in the feed.
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These videos show a good example of what online casinos can do
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I have checked every pixel of the video feed and can confirm it is absolutely 100% fake.
They are using deepfake ai technology, look at the pixels!
They're all lizards.
They are using deepfake ai technology, look at the pixels!
They're all lizards.
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I'm confused here, is it somehow proof of cheating that shoes can read cards with bar-codes? How exactly did you think your screen display them in the first place when playing online?
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Holograms?
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They are able to bring any value card out of the shoe in any order they like. If they want an Ace of Spades to come out of the shoe. They are able to make the next card an ace of spades
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What about a ten of hearts?
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If you upgrade to pro-version, it's included.
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That happened to me few times 2 nights ago , i lost alot , my money was on 11 ,ball dropped in 11 but they announced 10 ,which was no money on it ,even courpier was saying number 11 but he just stopped and changed his words to number 10 , then number 2 ,they said 4 , then 34 they said 36 , screen freeze ups , playbacks ,all kind off dodgy going on there , im planning to take them to court.
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How much was you betting cause taking the to court will first be hard and secondly cost you a fortune,
You got video proof or anything ?
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I don't touch any live games personally but the amount of people saying the same thing is eye opening.
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Some years earlier it was pretty usual, but still happening nowadays too.
Don't stay long on one table, and always use a screen recording software when playing the live games (especially auto ones)!
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No you aren't.
There's no shortage of idiots saying 5G causes corona virus and an entire country seems to think Donald Trump is a suitable president.
These people are sore losers who cannot accept their losses as their responsibility.
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Well that's very true of course.
However, not so long ago people were laughed at for theorising the earth was round. Just because there is a current consensus about something, it doesn't make that consensus correct. What seems logical at present isn't always logical in hindsight.
As I say, I don't play live games but I wouldn't be shocked if outcomes were being controlled on the basis of where the big bets are and aren't and it equally wouldn't shock me if it's an industry wide thing the regulators are aware of. You can still operate to TRTP this way but the RTP is controlled in terms of its distribution. Makes sense. Why make 1 person mega rich and piss 10 others off when you can split the RTP and make 7 of those 10 players happy?
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500 BC it was known, by 600-700 AD an accepted fact among all scholars. Don't believe in myths...
And speaking of myths, the idea/myth that a licensed live studio would risk their license and their entire company for the sake of earning a few extra bucks in a game they will profit from long term, still remain baffling to me. Why would say, Evolution, risk billions for a random low rollers stake?
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Yes.. Rich people and companies never commit crimes to get more money, because why would they, they are already rich.
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Yes everyone's crooks, my bad I forgot.Yes.. Rich people and companies never commit crimes to get more money, because why would they, they are already rich.
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I won't comment much, but this might be a possible VERSION of what has happened.
When the ball has hit the diamond it affected its natural movement direction making to spin anti-clockwise.
After hitting the diamond, the ball went straight towards the number 23 and hit its pocket edge making to spin even more (watch the video in 0.25 playback speed).
And since the rotor spins countre clockwise it made the ball move clockwise which resulted in the ball landing on the number 5.
While still spinning and hitting the number 5 pocket side, the counterclockwise rotor movement made it to come out and land on 20.
When the ball has hit the diamond it affected its natural movement direction making to spin anti-clockwise.
After hitting the diamond, the ball went straight towards the number 23 and hit its pocket edge making to spin even more (watch the video in 0.25 playback speed).
And since the rotor spins countre clockwise it made the ball move clockwise which resulted in the ball landing on the number 5.
While still spinning and hitting the number 5 pocket side, the counterclockwise rotor movement made it to come out and land on 20.
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Yeah what's more likely though; that, or aliens using some kind of anti gravity gun?
Jesus. I think we found a Dr. of physics here.
ntl i still would prefer the aliens.
btw this guy has another video which compares Evolution Roulette with other online tables in which it shows that Evolution Gaming using Roulette Balls out of different material than the western standard. That explains the ridicolous bouncing which you will never find on real casinos.,
So, legal or not, in some way they do cheating on people. Who knows what else they're using.
ntl i still would prefer the aliens.
btw this guy has another video which compares Evolution Roulette with other online tables in which it shows that Evolution Gaming using Roulette Balls out of different material than the western standard. That explains the ridicolous bouncing which you will never find on real casinos.,
So, legal or not, in some way they do cheating on people. Who knows what else they're using.
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I do. Anti gravity guns.
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So no idea how, but for sure they are cheating? Just based on feelings or...? What ever ball their using and if it's ridiculous bouncing, it should be much harder to control to get in wanted number. Would be interesting see how they get through their audits with their superfixed tables where are... (what everything there were, magnets, air guns and much more to avoid certain numbers and of course connected to program which is calculating what number in every round is most on house favor) they are really good in building invisible things what nobody every find.
Live game staff is also changing a lot in fast pace would imagine that somebody would give huge story to papers and get huge money from that by proving and explaining how Evolution been systematically cheating their customers years and years worth of £XXXXXXXXXX at least.
But good that we still are in conclusion that they are cheating, would be nice to see something else than bouncing ball as a proof or even some well written theory how they would do that in practice would be interesting, haven't yet seen any which would make much sense in real life.
Anyone who has played a lot of real casino roulette can see that this “live roulette” is like a slot machine. All you affiliates out here, please don’t make stupid comments about how this is real and licences and all. For everyone else:
If you don’t trust it, don’t play, simple. If you like gambling then keep playing , just know that you are playing a slot machine. I have won over $20,000 on evolution live roulette and started with like $200, so don’t get me wrong I am not a sore loser who just wants to come here and complain. I am just saying, it’s not real live roulette
Are you an affiliate bud? You probably are, aren’t you?
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just know that you are playing a slot machine
it’s not real live roulette
Those are understandable assumptions to make, but I can assure you it is a live game. There is a reason people win considerable amounts of money but also witness so many physics-defying instances.
If anyone viewing this post has lost a great deal of money via online live roulette & wishes there was a way to get it back, you are welcome to contact me.
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Evolution Gaming, get your crappy electronic slot-roulette machines fixed once and for all - it's nearly 2021; not 2006!
I saw similar shite in past, but then I was unable to prove to casinos anything. Their customer support always asked for
a game ID in order to investigate the result (since there is no number registered, the game ID simply does not exist).
Having seen the ball dropped in number 4, one of my winning numbers, I managed to click a record button!
Thankfully it was in a good casino — Unibet; which helped me to get my winnings.
I'm still wondering what happened to winnings of those hundreds or even thousands of players from different parts of the world
who were playing the same game in other casinos...
I saw similar shite in past, but then I was unable to prove to casinos anything. Their customer support always asked for
a game ID in order to investigate the result (since there is no number registered, the game ID simply does not exist).
Having seen the ball dropped in number 4, one of my winning numbers, I managed to click a record button!
Thankfully it was in a good casino — Unibet; which helped me to get my winnings.
I'm still wondering what happened to winnings of those hundreds or even thousands of players from different parts of the world
who were playing the same game in other casinos...
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It must be that lithium ball again. When in contact with air, it reacts with oxygen to create invisible hydrogen bubbles, which then make the ball lighter (hence the 'gravity denying' comments) so it can bounce around more. Like the peanut in the glass of lemonade, eventually the bubbles pop and allow it to sink down to a losing number. This means us affiliates have more chance of earning from our Evolution players.
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Bump
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those lithium balls certainly do...
what were you hoping to achieve with this bump?
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Bumping players off by rigging roulette wheels. They're all playing against eachother
Makes me laugh that some people or gamblers think Playtech and Evolution don't use manipulated software that cheat customers out of millions each year.
Obviously these people either work for Playtech or Evolution or hardly ever play there online games
Quantum Roulette, Crazy time Wonderland, fire roulette etc etc are all rigged to make profit. They receive thousands of complaints a week but nothing gers done to stop them because money talks.
Even if hard evidence is submitted the Gambling Commision would probably ignore it or issue some pathetic fine and still issue them a license to operate because they benefit greatly from those companies revenue wise.
I have also posted evidence of Playtech manipulating games even a few months back I was in a obby and the Quantum Roulette game malfunctioned no one could bet the admin staff explained there was a problem and no bets could be placed but the actual game carried on as normal showing false winners winning big money on a false leaderboard sums up playtech really , cheats, liars and very deceitful.
Also have evidence of there admin telling lies to customers saying there roulette was manually spun its not they are all use electric motors a fact.
He works for playtech or Evolution so obvious. Read my post maybe you will understand how bad and deceitful they are.
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