Must Read "Each UK High Street B2 £500 j/p Machine Pulls in £32k a Year!"

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"On average, each high-stakes B2 machine in the UK pulls in about £32,000 each year - almost as much as the average salary."😮

No wonder they want 24hr. opening! Wow.

Enjoy your 90% RTP Merkur Centre or Admiral etc.....😓

And self-exclusion apparently has a 7% efficacy rate.... :eek:

"Only one out of 14 Adult Gaming Centres (AGC) in Portsmouth visited by an undercover reporter who had registered with a self-exclusion scheme declined him entry.

Addicts have said "loopholes" and a lack of staff training mean people signed up to the schemes are being allowed to build up further debts."


This is worse than we all thought I reckon.
 
I used to hit the pubs after work and throw a lot of money into the slots until my first child was coming into the world and I realised that I had to change my priorities. Since then I have just tested myself out a few times over the years by throwing the odd bit of change in a machine then walking away. Best decision I have ever made in my life.
These days I am scared to go near one.
 
These Merkur arcades are popping up in every town up and down the country. Along with pound shops, charity shops and betting shops, these are a blight on the high street.

Can never tell how busy they are as their windows are painted and I have never frequented one. But if the figures in this article are correct, it appears they have replaced the bookies FOBT machines as the 'crack cocaine' of the high street.

Shocking!

Lots of people on here complain about low RTP's on the slots on online casinos. The RTP's on these £500 jackpot machines are on another level. Akin to the machines you find at motorway service stations.
 
Imagine what they were making of each terminal when they were shoving 4 to 6 machines sometimes in 1 shop until they had to reduce the amount of terminals they were allowed.

And that was the sole reason bookies use to stay open late at night because it was very profitable for them with these devil machines.

And it was the old fobt machines back then were you could place less stakes and win more cash then the awful blueprint bandits they have replaced them with Now.

I would of said they were making double that amount or even more on each terminal on the old fobts, if you remember they were really popular were you had to wait sometime for a machine to be free, Not the case now from my experiences

Nowadays if I go in bookies there's usually just 1 guy playing and the other 3 machines empty.

When the fobts got nerfed so did the amount of people that play them, although there's still demand, It's nothing like in the early 2000,s in regards to how popular they were then compared to now.
 
If you listen to the podcast there was a shocking account by the contributor that they tried to take steps by asking their bank to block gambling transactions

Not perfect as the AGCs are cash play but it did block them withdrawing from the in premise ATMs, eventually of course they just walked over the road to Lloyds and withdrew a load of cash

A member of Merkur staff noticed this regular trip and helped the customer...LOG ON TO THEIR BANKING APP AND REMOVE THE GAMBLING BLOCK SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE EFFORT OF VISITING THE CASH MACHINE ACROSS THE ROAD!!!

The self exclusion experiment perhaps had a 0% success rate considering the Game Nation only clocked on because it was the same member of staff that had performed the self exclusion in the first place...
 
Not an expert as I don't really venture in to arcades or bookies anymore and have not do so in years....

However I do have some old school friends who work in arcades in Wolverhampton and have done so since "I were a lad" - I also have a good friend who hasn't quite managed to shake the bug and still pops in the local Admiral at least once or twice a week.

From what they tell me, the arcades are mostly dead all the time, so I'd imagine that 90% of this reported revenue is from bookies rather than arcades.

Then again each town / city is different so who knows....
 
Not an expert as I don't really venture in to arcades or bookies anymore and have not do so in years....

However I do have some old school friends who work in arcades in Wolverhampton and have done so since "I were a lad" - I also have a good friend who hasn't quite managed to shake the bug and still pops in the local Admiral at least once or twice a week.

From what they tell me, the arcades are mostly dead all the time, so I'd imagine that 90% of this reported revenue is from bookies rather than arcades.

Then again each town / city is different so who knows....
Only time I was ever in one was back when I was doing in person promotional offers and admiral online had one for in person that made it +EV.

It was probably 20-30% capacity the time I visited but definitely wouldn't have been the peak hours for them
 
Not an expert as I don't really venture in to arcades or bookies anymore and have not do so in years....

However I do have some old school friends who work in arcades in Wolverhampton and have done so since "I were a lad" - I also have a good friend who hasn't quite managed to shake the bug and still pops in the local Admiral at least once or twice a week.

From what they tell me, the arcades are mostly dead all the time, so I'd imagine that 90% of this reported revenue is from bookies rather than arcades.

Then again each town / city is different so who knows....
Yes, I see your point but each machine only needs 2 visits from a saddict pumping a few hundred each each week to make that amount. And the arcade can still be ostensibly 'dead'. It kind of mirrors the old reports from the online casino industry and anecdotes stating that 80% of profits come from just 10% of the players. Or words to that effect. If a 90% dead arcade can have a few staff, pay high street business rents and rates plus electricity costs, it shows the influence just a few big spenders can have.

I must admit I love @ChopleyIOM 's videos but cringe when he plays those terrible 90-92% BP cabinet games at £2 a spin. It demonstrates perfectly how easily it could go wrong and somebody could spunk hundreds in one in a short space of time. Notwithstanding the graphical awfulness of those top-paying stacked symbols over-appearing....
 
Obviously don't want to doxx the person concerned - no names, no location - but this is what owning a few arcades gets you.

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Obviously don't want to doxx the person concerned - no names, no location - but this is what owning a few arcades gets you.

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Pah, little bigger than the average affiliate's garden shed. I know streamers too whose khazis are better. Peasants.
 
You can look at the accounts for the likes of Admiral (Luxury Leisure) on Companies House, they turn over 100-150 million quid a year to walk away with a profit after everything of around 11 million quid

Oddly if you then divide that by roughly 280 venues they actually only make a profit of 40k or so per venue

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Yes I wouldnt pay too much attention to anything about gambling written on a bbc website.

Could easily believe those figures back in the heyday of fobts in bookies before restrictions came in. In fact they were probably taking in much more in busy areas.

Not having that average in ur ordinary Murker arcade. Nearly always 80% empty. Of course a few addicts in each town will contribute a certain amount but how much can they lose in a year on an ordinary salary??
 
You can look at the accounts for the likes of Admiral (Luxury Leisure) on Companies House, they turn over 100-150 million quid a year to walk away with a profit after everything of around 11 million quid

Oddly if you then divide that by roughly 280 venues they actually only make a profit of 40k or so per venue

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They are in expansion mode so are spending heavily on new shops, plus the new shops generally don't become profitable for a couple of years until they get regulars.
 
Yes I wouldnt pay too much attention to anything about gambling written on a bbc website.

Could easily believe those figures back in the heyday of fobts in bookies before restrictions came in. In fact they were probably taking in much more in busy areas.

Not having that average in ur ordinary Murker arcade. Nearly always 80% empty. Of course a few addicts in each town will contribute a certain amount but how much can they lose in a year on an ordinary salary??
Salary+debt+selling possessions+crime(sometimes)
 
Must be a lot of debt+selling possessions+crime(sonetimes) to maintain those figures then.

Perhaps I should change my job and resort to those kind of shenanigans to earn a better living.

I’ll just lose it on bonanza instead at 40p a spin. Altho I do realise that I could never hit a £500 jackpot on it!!!

Much more fun.

If you see more than about 3-5 people in these places I’d call it a ‘busy’ shop!!!

Or if one is allowed to be cynical, a busy ‘money laundering’ establishment!!!
 
Must be a lot of debt+selling possessions+crime(sonetimes) to maintain those figures then.

Perhaps I should change my job and resort to those kind of shenanigans to earn a better living.

I’ll just lose it on bonanza instead at 40p a spin. Altho I do realise that I could never hit a £500 jackpot on it!!!

Much more fun.

If you see more than about 3-5 people in these places I’d call it a ‘busy’ shop!!!

Or if one is allowed to be cynical, a busy ‘money laundering’ establishment!!!
It is the hardcore spenders who keep those places afloat. It's not like they have a few tens of random footfall a day, all deciding to go in and spend a tenner as they might do in Greggs or a newsagent.

But yes, cash money laundering could well be going on, it would explain a lot although I still believe it's the hardcore addicts.
 
Well tbf if you look at the turn over in the link above, then it’s clear that it’s more likely the money stated In the bbc report is worded in a way they want to suit their narrative.

That’s probably the average figure that is put through them. Not how much they actually make.

If each terminal is making that then they’d need about 300-400k fed through them.

Baring in mind (the last time I checked) you can only have 1 b2 for every 5 machines. So with all their turn over across all 280 venues, then u get nothing like what they are suggesting.

Even bookies are starting to close now because of the new restrictions. The only reason they were open was because of the fobts. We all know how those profits must have been culled since the new limits.
 
Yes, I see your point but each machine only needs 2 visits from a saddict pumping a few hundred each each week to make that amount. And the arcade can still be ostensibly 'dead'. It kind of mirrors the old reports from the online casino industry and anecdotes stating that 80% of profits come from just 10% of the players. Or words to that effect. If a 90% dead arcade can have a few staff, pay high street business rents and rates plus electricity costs, it shows the influence just a few big spenders can have.

I must admit I love @ChopleyIOM 's videos but cringe when he plays those terrible 90-92% BP cabinet games at £2 a spin. It demonstrates perfectly how easily it could go wrong and somebody could spunk hundreds in one in a short space of time. Notwithstanding the graphical awfulness of those top-paying stacked symbols over-appearing....

Yes that's exactly the point I make about the £500s in the pubs here, a few folks have said in the comments on the videos, and over at Desert Island Fruits, regarding surely they're not profitable and in my videos you can often see there's no one else playing them etc.

The answer to that of course is the sheer rate of knots these things can hoover up money at, especially with the appalling RTPs they're set to, whereby 92% is about your lot at top stake, and often lower than that, especially if you dare to reduce your stake to less than £2 per go.

(There's a reason that many pubs here have three or four, or even five of fuckers, on site! They all need to be bought, maintained, and have their licence fees paid, you think they'd be there if they were losing money?)

They only need a few visitors per day (or even per week.....) to make their bank, and the pernicious way in which they constantly cycle small wins straight back into credits to be replayed means that people often play out to a bust, not realising that they're getting ground down against the shit RTP as they do so and think they've won 'nothing' when in actual fact the machine has been drip feeding its RTP to them the whole time.

Back in the day on fruit machines this wasn't allowed, so credits had to be kept separate from the bank, therefore collecting the bank when credits were exhausted, and having to put it back in as 'fresh money' at least gave pause for thought.

I think these random games in pubs/arcades would take a lot less money if people had to collect out £20 or £40 or whatever it was from let's say £100 in, and then make a conscious decision to put it back into the machine and play it through again.

Still, effective regulation, who needs it eh? LOL.

Blatant video pimpage but I did a deep dive into some of the numbers on how low RTPs and cycling can totally fuck you as a player, it's got spreadsheets and everything :D

Direct timestamped link to the relevant section:



And the follow on video with more number crunching:

 
My family member who went to London and drove around to other cities told me there are arcades for slots at almost every pub and every rest stop on the highways. He said there's always people playing there. And literally nobody checks if a kid goes up and plays. I completely believe they can pull same amounts in this way per day.
 

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