Dumb MG game question

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I hope this isn't a stupid question. Every time I ask something the answer was right under my nose. I have been seeing some great screenies of the MG Fruit(?) machines. I mean the ones like Treasure Island etc.

How in the world do you play them. When I go to help all I see is the payout. How does the nudge, and hold feature work? What should you hold etc. Any help would be greatly apprcieated.
 
When I go to help all I see is the payout. How does the nudge, and hold feature work? What should you hold etc. Any help would be greatly apprcieated.

its all in help, lots of reading :p

The Nudge feature is random and enables you to bump a reel to display the next symbol.

You can win up to four reel nudges per spin.

When you win nudges:

1. The number of nudges awarded to you highlights, and the Nudge buttons activate.

2. The Sneak Peak Arrows above the reels highlight. Click the Sneak Peak Arrows to view the next two symbols on the reels. This helps you create winning symbol combinations.

3. Click the Nudge buttons to bump the reels. Depending on the number of nudges held, and the reel combination displaying, you can create winning symbol combinations.
The Hold feature is random and holds the position of one or more reels for the next spin.

When the Hold feature activates, the Hold buttons display below each reel.

To hold your reels:

1. Click the Hold buttons to select the reel positions you want to hold. You can hold up to three reels.

2. Click the Spin button. Only the reels not held spin. Any winning combinations are paid out according to the Regular Payout Schedule.

etc
 
Sounds too much like work to me, lol. When I spin a slot, I want it to do all the work. :laugh:
 
Keep in mind that when you have the option to hold any of the reels, only do so if there are symbols present that will advance you to the bonus rounds.

For instance, if you have any of the soccer balls visible in Game On!, hold those reels, and for Treasure Ireland, be sure to hold the reels that have a map visible.

The same goes for nudges. Most of the time you can bypass nudging any reels at all, as they won't complete a winning combination or advance you to the bonus round.

Always remember that the main goal for any of the fruities is to reach the bonus round. Very rarely will you win any substantial amount from a line win, so don't bother holding 2 reels to a winning combination, as you'll rarely hit the 3rd one....I think the only way I'd hold 2 reels is if they had a jackpot symbol on each of them.
 
Keep in mind that when you have the option to hold any of the reels, only do so if there are symbols present that will advance you to the bonus rounds.

For instance, if you have any of the soccer balls visible in Game On!, hold those reels, and for Treasure Ireland, be sure to hold the reels that have a map visible.

The same goes for nudges. Most of the time you can bypass nudging any reels at all, as they won't complete a winning combination or advance you to the bonus round.

Always remember that the main goal for any of the fruities is to reach the bonus round. Very rarely will you win any substantial amount from a line win, so don't bother holding 2 reels to a winning combination, as you'll rarely hit the 3rd one....I think the only way I'd hold 2 reels is if they had a jackpot symbol on each of them.

Like I said.....work. :laugh:

Christ, I'd have to get pen and paper out and take notes, and refer to them before I made a move. I'd have to have a copy of the paytable handy too. I'm glad to see that some enjoy them....but honestly, I just want mindless entertainment with the least amount of effort possible. :D
 
Also bear in mind that these work like traditional fruit machines. Every time you take a win it's going to take some out of the pot. Thus by refusing wins the slot is going to pay further. In theory anyway. Even if it is only those stupid 1x and 2x bets. They all add up and will deplete the pot further, although your balance is not going to notice the difference.

The trick is to not play these like slot machines. As they aren't. A bonus round isn't going to come after x spins, and don't expect a 1000x line win. Hell, I don't think they even go that high!

I'm not sure of the actual payout % of these, would presume it's in the mid to high 70s. But as Vinyl shows, play these at the right time and the payouts can be far higher than slots.
 
Thanks

Also bear in mind that these work like traditional fruit machines. Every time you take a win it's going to take some out of the pot. Thus by refusing wins the slot is going to pay further. In theory anyway. Even if it is only those stupid 1x and 2x bets. They all add up and will deplete the pot further, although your balance is not going to notice the difference.

The trick is to not play these like slot machines. As they aren't. A bonus round isn't going to come after x spins, and don't expect a 1000x line win. Hell, I don't think they even go that high!

I'm not sure of the actual payout % of these, would presume it's in the mid to high 70s. But as Vinyl shows, play these at the right time and the payouts can be far higher than slots.

Thanks this is the kind of help I really needed. I am not familiar with fruit machines. Even after reading help I was lost. Glad you and Win are in the know on this.:thumbsup:
 
The problem I have often had is having the 'courage' to reject a win. Do you guys have fruit machines where you all are? In the UK, if I'm playing a fruitie in the pub and get offered let's say 5 from a 30p spin, I know if I take it, chances of it paying are minimal until the 5 has been recouped. There again, if I reject it, I might think to myself afterwards 'I wish I'd taken that ;)'

Same principle applies online. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't.

Only yesterday I discovered a 5p play fruit machine with a jackpot of 100. Called Lockbuster...sure Vinyl will have heard of it :p...Got offered 20 on the board, which I rejected. 1.40 later, skill nudges (max of 4) and in comes the four locks = 100 :D
 
Just to confuse you further, there are hidden cheats on some of the games
as follows
If the machine allows it , holding the same pair of matching 3 times on trot may give a wiining combination on the 3rd game(the unheld symbol drops in to give a win).
If after nudging you end up with 2 matching symbols on the payline and one
above the payline on the other reel, the machine may say" let them spin"
or something like that. when you press spin,the reels will spin to a three of a kind win.
both these cheats always give a win on the mouse olympics game but I am not sure about the other games, I think sometimes they do at random.
Hope this helps
 
Fruit Mchines

The problem I have often had is having the 'courage' to reject a win. Do you guys have fruit machines where you all are? In the UK, if I'm playing a fruitie in the pub and get offered let's say 5 from a 30p spin, I know if I take it, chances of it paying are minimal until the 5 has been recouped. There again, if I reject it, I might think to myself afterwards 'I wish I'd taken that ;)'

Same principle applies online. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't.

Only yesterday I discovered a 5p play fruit machine with a jackpot of 100. Called Lockbuster...sure Vinyl will have heard of it :p...Got offered 20 on the board, which I rejected. 1.40 later, skill nudges (max of 4) and in comes the four locks = 100 :D

Nope, it may just be me but, I have never heard of these machines until I saw them discussed on CM. Cool concept if I could just grasp it.
 
Just to confuse you further, there are hidden cheats on some of the games
as follows
If the machine allows it , holding the same pair of matching 3 times on trot may give a wiining combination on the 3rd game(the unheld symbol drops in to give a win).
If after nudging you end up with 2 matching symbols on the payline and one
above the payline on the other reel, the machine may say" let them spin"
or something like that. when you press spin,the reels will spin to a three of a kind win.
both these cheats always give a win on the mouse olympics game but I am not sure about the other games, I think sometimes they do at random.
Hope this helps

Random
:lolup::lolup::lolup:

Nothing random about fruit machines :D Apart from the holds.....if you believe that, that is.
 
i like playing those....

Thus by refusing wins the slot is going to pay further. In theory anyway.
how do you refuse the win? I find if sometimes i don't nudge, it will spin a winning combination regardless.

A bonus round isn't going to come after x spins, and don't expect a 1000x line win. Hell, I don't think they even go that high!

I won 2750 and 2000 on TheGeeGees betting $1.
 
Just to confuse you further, there are hidden cheats on some of the games
as follows
If the machine allows it , holding the same pair of matching 3 times on trot may give a wiining combination on the 3rd game(the unheld symbol drops in to give a win).
If after nudging you end up with 2 matching symbols on the payline and one
above the payline on the other reel, the machine may say" let them spin"
or something like that. when you press spin,the reels will spin to a three of a kind win./QUOTE]

I just had this happen in The Gee Gees, as well.

I was able to hold two horseshoes twice, and the 3rd one fell in for 20x on the 3rd spin :) Thanks for the tip!

and )(@*#$@#$ I was ONE FEATURE AWAY from The Gee Gee's just now and hit a goddamn ? and lost. DAMNIT! I got greedy :D
 
Does anyone know what this means?

Whistle sound and text "watch carefully"(something like that) and the reels flush?

I've been trying to figure out the same thing.. I've gotten that a number of times, and can say for a fact that it has nothing to do with trying to hold the reels in the order they light up (similar to the old game "simon says") then pressing spin...:confused:

I only found out last night that the "Extra Life" is totally random once it's lit. Out of about 50 times, it finally kicked in once and I was able to continue the feature...lol..I was wondering why I could get that lit and it never did anything.

Blast from the past! Simon Says!

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:D
 
Does anyone know what this means?

Whistle sound and text "watch carefully"(something like that) and the reels flush?

I haven't figured that one out myself yet. Hope some of the pro's will share their insight, if they aren't afraid of us low rollers! This appears in both "Game On" and "Lucky Barstard".

I mostly play the fruities at 10 to 25 cents...A small deposit will keep me amused for quite a while, and I find it much more interactive than just hitting the spin button.
 
I haven't figured that one out myself yet. Hope some of the pro's will share their insight, if they aren't afraid of us low rollers! This appears in both "Game On" and "Lucky Barstard".

I mostly play the fruities at 10 to 25 cents...A small deposit will keep me amused for quite a while, and I find it much more interactive than just hitting the spin button.

It also happens in Treasure Ireland...
 
Does anyone know what this means?

Whistle sound and text "watch carefully"(something like that) and the reels flush?

In You Lucky Barstard, when the reels flash you are meant to hold them in the order they flash. The screen then tells you to press cancel, so do that, and hey presto, in rolls the feature.

I presume it works the same for the others? Haven't played Game On though so don't quote me on it.
 
Many of the traditional cheats, such as 3 holds & win, spin after hudges if holds available with 2 of same etc DO NOT WORK with the MGS Fruities. This may be because it is just too obviously non-random for non-UK players to accept as a fair game. The "pot" theory of pub Fruit Machines does hold though. I have extensively studied Treasure Ireland, and the really BIG wins are when a random and LARGE amount is deposited into the accumulating "pot" from outside. Conversely, it can take money in, and refusing wins may NOT add more to the "pot", but to the more general "pot" that feeds these extra cash injections for OTHER players. In this sense, the big wins are really a case of right slot, right time.

On Treasure Ireland, there are some signs that are seen when more money is being fed into the feature pot. The following are dead giveaways of an extra big win, similar to the ones I have posted.

Reel features, such as nudge, "hold me", and "shifta" offer the larger wins, such as 20x, and particularly 40x and 80x.

Before I hit one monster win, I was suddenly offered 3 ships with nudges. I refused it, and three times it was offered on the next spin. Then, it just spun in 3 parrots twice on the trot, and THEN 3 ships not long after. A little after this, it became clear there had also been a HUGE "pot fill", and it went TI with little effort.
Sometimes, you get no signs, such as the 10K from Prime, where I was playing 2 and it bypassed 30 spins and offered 50 spins straight away. I took it, and found that a MASSIVE pot fill had boosted the payout from around 200x to 250x to an impressive 5000x. The pot boost was so big that the next feature added the extra 3K payout, still on 2.

These are far from "mindless entertainment", however, if you mess things up, they will usually offer the win back to you again & again, whereas in a truly random slot, but with an element of choice, a win refused is lost "forever".

UK players like myself have a SERIOUS advantage, in my case some 40 YEARS of experience of the real thing, even though less than 3 years of the online version. I do not really need to read the rules, I can work out how to play these by a quick session of "suck it & see".

I look forward to MGS introducing more of these, and adding the others from Flash to Viper.

I do NOT believe the payout is the 70% of the real thing though, it seems nearer to the 95% average expected generally for slots - but the way this 95% is achieved can make the payout look MUCH lower for much of the time, just like the real thing.
 
After reading this thread I deceided to give "Game On" a try. I took into consideration the tips that you all wrote about. I was betting 50c a spin and almost immediately I hit the bonus round.

I hit "stop" and it landed on 100x. Got the bonus again after a few more spins, won 75x my bet. Got it again, landed on 75x bet and again for 50x.

After that I upped my bet to $1.00 and never hit a bonus again. I had to have won $250 and played it all back.

Is this common on these games?
 
I had to have won $250 and played it all back.

Is this common on these games?

yes, they are very very streaky and its important to quit on time because usually after a few good features, there is a long sequence of dead spins. I don't play all of them but the games i have experience with, are same as what you described.
 
Just like the real thing, you have to play these games a fair bit to learn all their subtle ways. Reading the rules is not enough. The key to these games is that you are offered GENUINE choices, whereas with the normal slot it just happens.

The more I play Treasure Ireland, the more I learn how these games work through their cycles. I have experimented with many different tactics to see which is the best thing to take. I have found 30 and 50 win spins can be worth taking, especially if offered out of the blue from an otherwise dead session. If you have already taken 50 spins, or the TI, try immediately dropping the bet & playing for the feature again, since you may get a "mopping up" offer, such as 9 win spins, or win series.

When you have sucked ALL the value from the pot, it tells you loud & clear. Feature - 6 or 12 - lose ( either direct, or continue/no). The game will normally start playing like this if you have never played before.
 

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