Disrespect for Bryan's Forum

[WagerWitch]

There are people on this forum that have ABSOLUTELY no respect for BRYAN's forum.

They trash talk people - they are rude - they are sarcastic and they treat posters with absolute disrespect.

In my opinion - I find these people highly offensive.

At first, they truly hurt my feelings.

But I decided that it is MY choice to allow them to hurt my feelings - and I have taken away their ability to do so from this point on.

These people are NEGATIVE people.

They could care less how much damage they are doing to this forum.

They do not care if they chase away people, if they hurt people's feelings or if they treat people badly - as long as they can get their SNARK and CRUELTY in.

Here's your rope people - take it.

Because OBVIOUSLY something is wrong when you think it is alright to be the way you are in a public forum.

If you THINK what you are doing is helping Bryan build business and maintain a decent reputation - then perhaps you should go out and GOOGLE the amount of comments on other forums about CasinoMeister, especially lately.

This place isn't supposed to be about TROLLS bashing.

It's about making the Gambling Industry and the Players WORK TOGETHER...

But - I don't think that's what some of these people want.

I don't care if someone has a differing opinion than me - but I DO CARE when they treat others like shit - and then say --- OH you don't like my opinion so you MUST be trying to police me.

Treating others BADLY is NOT an opinion. It is an ACTION.

And your actions are speaking loudly to all the new people and all the old people who have stopped posting because of you.

LOOK around people...

This place has become a graveyard full of TROLL LIKE RANTS - high fives and nasty commentary.

What good are YOU doing BRYAN?

I'm surprised that Bryan has allowed you guys to continue.

But I'm sure that you're taking that as a pat on the back and permission to carry on - as if NOTHING is wrong with your behavior.

Maybe it is - but I really don't think so.

Is it Bryan?

The way they treated Marty - and other people - IS THIS REALLY the kind of activity you condone NOW on this forum?

I'd like to think NOT.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

There are people on this forum that have ABSOLUTELY no respect for BRYAN's forum.

They trash talk people - they are rude - they are sarcastic and they treat posters with absolute disrespect.

In my opinion - I find these people highly offensive.

At first, they truly hurt my feelings.

But I decided that it is MY choice to allow them to hurt my feelings - and I have taken away their ability to do so from this point on.

These people are NEGATIVE people.

They could care less how much damage they are doing to this forum.

They do not care if they chase away people, if they hurt people's feelings or if they treat people badly - as long as they can get their SNARK and CRUELTY in.

Here's your rope people - take it.

Because OBVIOUSLY something is wrong when you think it is alright to be the way you are in a public forum.

If you THINK what you are doing is helping Bryan build business and maintain a decent reputation - then perhaps you should go out and GOOGLE the amount of comments on other forums about CasinoMeister, especially lately.

This place isn't supposed to be about TROLLS bashing.

It's about making the Gambling Industry and the Players WORK TOGETHER...

But - I don't think that's what some of these people want.

I don't care if someone has a differing opinion than me - but I DO CARE when they treat others like shit - and then say --- OH you don't like my opinion so you MUST be trying to police me.

Treating others BADLY is NOT an opinion. It is an ACTION.

And your actions are speaking loudly to all the new people and all the old people who have stopped posting because of you.

LOOK around people...

This place has become a graveyard full of TROLL LIKE RANTS - high fives and nasty commentary.

What good are YOU doing BRYAN?

I'm surprised that Bryan has allowed you guys to continue.

But I'm sure that you're taking that as a pat on the back and permission to carry on - as if NOTHING is wrong with your behavior.

Maybe it is - but I really don't think so.

Is it Bryan?

The way they treated Marty - and other people - IS THIS REALLY the kind of activity you condone NOW on this forum?

I'd like to think NOT.

So Bryan should now censor and/or ban all those that you have solely deemed without prejudice to be disrespectful of his forum?? This seems to contradict your position on censorship, imagine that.

Furthermore, I disagree that these deviants I assume you are referencing have not contributed to the success of this forum but you can ignore the facts with your hypocritical opinions by all means. Knock yourself out.

 

[WagerWitch]

So Bryan should now censor and/or ban all those that you have solely deemed without prejudice to be disrespectful of his forum?? This seems to contradict your position on censorship, imagine that.

Furthermore, I disagree that these deviants I assume you are referencing have not contributed to the success of this forum but you can ignore the facts with your hypocritical opinions by all means. Knock yourself out.

When you believe BASHING someone and actively treating them like shit is going to bring better response - then something is wrong with your perspective.

You do not beat a child severely to get it to learn a lesson.

Instead you implement patience.

I'm sorry - but you're saying I have said something about censorship.... Show me please... Where I mentioned CENSORSHIP.

ALSO - please - show me where these same people cannot use their possibly VALID opinions - and speak them intelligently instead of being rude, snarky, instigating and manipulative?

The difference of the world you are seeing and the world I am seeing - is the touch of kindness - and the ability to remain professional and calm.

However this group of people are the kind of people who run around screaming "F**K YOU" - or "YOU SUCK" at people - without being productive. They scream at people instead of trying to find a calm middle ground.

They snipe at people - being vicious - and act like this is OK to do.

FOR GOD'S SAKE PEOPLE --- You are out in public - act like a mature responsible adult.

You've made the forum a disgusting cesspool of vain and arrogant snark.

People are running away from here instead of signing up in the dozens.

But I suppose if Bryan is content with the STAGNANT quality of hatred here - then it IS his forum and I will respect his wishes.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

When you believe BASHING someone and actively treating them like shit is going to bring better response - then something is wrong with your perspective.

You do not beat a child severely to get it to learn a lesson.

Instead you implement patience.

I'm sorry - but you're saying I have said something about censorship.... Show me please... Where I mentioned CENSORSHIP.

ALSO - please - show me where these same people cannot use their possibly VALID opinions - and speak them intelligently instead of being rude, snarky, instigating and manipulative?

The difference of the world you are seeing and the world I am seeing - is the touch of kindness - and the ability to remain professional and calm.

However this group of people are the kind of people who run around screaming "F**K YOU" - or "YOU SUCK" at people - without being productive. They scream at people instead of trying to find a calm middle ground.

They snipe at people - being vicious - and act like this is OK to do.

FOR GOD'S SAKE PEOPLE --- You are out in public - act like a mature responsible adult.

You've made the forum a disgusting cesspool of vain and arrogant snark.

People are running away from here instead of signing up in the dozens.

But I suppose if Bryan is content with the STAGNANT quality of hatred here - then it IS his forum and I will respect his wishes.

Witch, I posted my piece above, now you do whatever you feel is necessary.

 

[bb28]

WW, I get part of what you are saying but for you to make a post like this, you are attacking specific people and how is that going to help anyone or anything? The majority of posters do respect Bryan and that's evidenced by the forum, everyday. Something that is offensive to you or any of us for that matter, well that's what the report a post function is for....it's discrete and it doesn't stir up more shit.
It's for Bryan or Max or one of the other mods to deal with when people cross lines. It's not your place, nor your right to put people on the spot like you are doing here in three separate threads. I don't mean this as an insult WW, but your post comes across as if you are telling Bryan how to take care of his own forum and if he doesn't do what you see fit and get rid of who you see as troublemakers, then it's going to hell in a handbasket. Everyone doesn't share your view, nor mine...that's the beauty of this place.

 

[chuchu59]

WW,

I also hate rude posters but it is sometimes difficult to determine who are downright rude and those who use strong expressive words. Bryan cares much about the forum but he also allows freedom of expression. Unless they go over the line he is very tolerant and that is the way it should be IMO.

Imagine what the forum would be if each and everyone is sooo nice when citing their opinions. Boring place it would be if you ask me. There are many colourful personalities gracing this forum and some of them are forceful characters but most of them do mean well although we may not necessarily take it this way.

Nevertheless, I hope everyone could spare a thought for others' feelings before submitting a post. BTW I think WW's concern is genuine although the way she posted may not be palatable to everyone's taste so please dont give her a hard time over it fellas.

 

[WagerWitch]

WW,

I also hate rude posters but it is sometimes difficult to determine who are downright rude and those who use strong expressive words. Bryan cares much about the forum but he also allows freedom of expression. Unless they go over the line he is very tolerant and that is the way it should be IMO.

Imagine what the forum would be if each and everyone is sooo nice when citing their opinions. Boring place it would be if you ask me. There are many colourful personalities gracing this forum and some of them are forceful characters but most of them do mean well although we may not necessarily take it this way.

Nevertheless, I hope everyone could spare a thought for others' feelings before submitting a post. BTW I think WW's concern is genuine although the way she posted may not be palatable to everyone's taste so please dont give her a hard time over it fellas.

Thank you Chu - I agree to what you are saying - 100%.

But when there are a group of posters using the "F" word - calling people names - and saying things that are despicable... That's a boundary NO HUMAN BEING SHOULD BE CROSSING IN A PUBLIC PLACE.

Sorry - but I've been watching this happen repeatedly here.

I want no part in it - and MANY OTHERS do not want a part in it - I'm just one of the few that is willing to stand up and say something about it.

I'm offended by the actions of the people who I thought were CIVIL, decent human beings.

I'm not asking you to kiss someone else's arse or even be especially nice - but damnit - RESPECT the fact that there is another HUMAN on the other side of the computer screen - and stop being such CRASS, RUDE - SARCASTIC - MEAN jerks.

 

[WagerWitch]

WW, I get part of what you are saying but for you to make a post like this, you are attacking specific people and how is that going to help anyone or anything? The majority of posters do respect Bryan and that's evidenced by the forum, everyday. Something that is offensive to you or any of us for that matter, well that's what the report a post function is for....it's discrete and it doesn't stir up more shit.
It's for Bryan or Max or one of the other mods to deal with when people cross lines. It's not your place, nor your right to put people on the spot like you are doing here in three separate threads. I don't mean this as an insult WW, but your post comes across as if you are telling Bryan how to take care of his own forum and if he doesn't do what you see fit and get rid of who you see as troublemakers, then it's going to hell in a handbasket. Everyone doesn't share your view, nor mine...that's the beauty of this place.

I respectfully disagree.

I think these posters do NOT respect Bryan's forum - they do not respect ANYONE who does NOT do things "THEIR" way... They are horrible ingrates who have decided to CRASH A PARTY.

It's like inviting them to a nice BallRoom dance...

And instead - they come in ratty clothes - DRUNK - acting obnoxious and puking all over the Host's shoes --- then smearing feces on the walls - with HATRED.

I'm sorry - there is NO respect in that type of behavior.

OPINIONS can vary and differ - there is no call for the PUNK ASS attitude that has taken this board by storm.

 

[WagerWitch]

WW, I get part of what you are saying but for you to make a post like this, you are attacking specific people and how is that going to help anyone or anything? The majority of posters do respect Bryan and that's evidenced by the forum, everyday. Something that is offensive to you or any of us for that matter, well that's what the report a post function is for....it's discrete and it doesn't stir up more shit.
It's for Bryan or Max or one of the other mods to deal with when people cross lines. It's not your place, nor your right to put people on the spot like you are doing here in three separate threads. I don't mean this as an insult WW, but your post comes across as if you are telling Bryan how to take care of his own forum and if he doesn't do what you see fit and get rid of who you see as troublemakers, then it's going to hell in a handbasket. Everyone doesn't share your view, nor mine...that's the beauty of this place.

OH - and be QUITE sure that I am NOT telling Bryan how to run his board.

I am saying quite bluntly - this place is starting to be a cesspool.

And I have enough respect for BRYAN to say so - before EVERYONE leaves... Except for the few that are acting like immature abusive punks.

If anyone involved has ANY respect for Bryan they WILL clean up their act.

I don't care who you are - You are absolutely STUPID if you think other people aren't noticing this behavior here and NOT commenting on it other places.

People are staying away...

People are coming out of the woodwork to make posts about it.

Come on - open your eyes.

I have enough respect for Bryan to say something - because I DO wish to stay here... I've been here a LONG time and have always felt I had something to offer this place - as well as learn from this place.

But I'm NOT staying long if it's like this..

What VALUE does it have for me if it stays like this?

What value does it have for ANYONE if it stays like this.

Bryan already made a post on the issue in the thread - and those involved just continued on - like it didn't matter what Bryan said - they were gonna do what they wanted to do --- And they are gonna get away with it.

Well - for one - I'm totally SICK of it.

I hate coming here these days cause there is NOTHING but anger and hatred stewing here.

And I'm not the only one.

I'm just the only person willing to admit it - and feels some sense of duty to bring it up in hopes --- HOPES --- that people can change --- that they can step back and say --- oh my gosh... she's right...

We don't have to agree with everyone --- we don't have to even like others...

BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE --- WE REALLY SHOULD BE FREAKING CIVIL.

 

[bb28]

WW......you aren't going to like what I'm going to say, but I don't know how else to say it. You are making mountains out of molehills! There are very few and only a few isolated incidences of name calling and out and out rudeness/meanness and as I mentioned before that is for Bryan, Max or the other mods to take care of. As for the other things you mentioned, hatred......geez that is a very strong word, don't you think you are being extreme? CRASS, RUDE - SARCASTIC - MEAN jerks, as for those adjectives.....well that is up to the interpretation of the reader, don't you think? WW.......it seems you are doing one of the exact same things that you say upsets you so much, name calling.

Where is this other place where people are talking.......give us the link, please. I'd like to read it.


As for being civil......most people are, the majority of the time.

 

[WagerWitch]

WW......you aren't going to like what I'm going to say, but I don't know how else to say it. You are making mountains out of molehills! There are very few and only a few isolated incidences of name calling and out and out rudeness/meanness and as I mentioned before that is for Bryan, Max or the other mods to take care of. As for the other things you mentioned, hatred......geez that is a very strong word, don't you think you are being extreme? CRASS, RUDE - SARCASTIC - MEAN jerks, as for those adjectives.....well that is up to the interpretation of the reader, don't you think? WW.......it seems you are doing one of the exact same things that you say upsets you so much, name calling.

Where is this other place where people are talking.......give us the link, please. I'd like to read it.


As for being civil......most people are, the majority of the time.

Really?

Go back and read the Marty thread..

Go read the thread a brand new affiliate posted here...

This place lately has been nothing except a lot of attacks.

If you want to candy coat it - go ahead...

And I'm not going to do your work for you - YOU GO OUT AND LOOK...

And if you don't find anything - LOOK harder.

It won't be that difficult - I am sure.

 

[bb28]

I read the Marty thread of course WW......maybe you should go back and read my last post. I said very few name calling incidents, I didn't say it never happens. You assume I'm defending name calling.....just to make it clear, I'm not.
And I'm not candy coating anything.....everyone has different perceptions of things and apparently yours is.......... well it's yours.


Goodnight WW.

 

[TOC]

Only a matter of time....

I totally agree with WW. I was slammed from post one and never recovered. Honestly I personally don't care about most posters as I search though the trash now and find the good stuff to read, not post back. Good example. BUT if this keeps going on people will find another place, plain & simple. Then again, do I care? Not really. This forum is out of control at times and has been for some time. Arrogance rules the site in my opinion from all sides, players, webmasters and others, you know who. Even the sites that CM promotes are being slammed by the same few, over and over again. Most posters don't stand a chance around here and I'm surprised of the following by Casino Reps and other industry leaders, why? As soon as most Reps open their mouths to reply the shit hits the fan by multiple posters and usually the Reps. don't stand a chance. No respect. I don't care if ya shit gold most of the people around here would find a way to say it was copper, sorry JMO! I totally see your point WW appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

 

[WagerWitch]

I read the Marty thread of course WW......maybe you should go back and read my last post. I said very few name calling incidents, I didn't say it never happens. You assume I'm defending name calling.....just to make it clear, I'm not.
And I'm not candy coating anything.....everyone has different perceptions of things and apparently yours is.......... well it's yours.


Goodnight WW.

My point is the incidences are NOT far and few between.

They are DAILY.

People are treated like scum here.

And most of them are NOT scum - just your average joe.

 

[lost2much]

Could someone else post something else???

Sorry Wager Witch, but for what it is worth I think you are too far up on the soap box. I feel like I'm sixteen and my mom keeps yelling at me!! I'm just not listening anymore, ya know?? If we are to act like adults as you suggest, you have to participate as well. Just my thoughts on this extremely LOUD rant.

 

[WagerWitch]

Sorry Wager Witch, but for what it is worth I think you are too far up on the soap box. I feel like I'm sixteen and my mom keeps yelling at me!! I'm just not listening anymore, ya know?? If we are to act like adults as you suggest, you have to participate as well. Just my thoughts on this extremely LOUD rant.

If you guys feel like you are 16 and your mother is yelling at you - then perhaps you ought to look at the REASONS your mother was yelling at you.

ONE: Because she passionately cares about you.
TWO: Because she is saddened by your actions.
THREE: Because she is trying to help out a situation that looks horrible.
FOUR: Because she doesn't want you to get hurt.
FIVE: Because she wants to teach you self respect.
SIX: Because she is trying to instill some justice and kindness in you.

And if you think that is an on the soapbox rant, then you might want to consider WHY I went off in the first place.

I mean - really - do YOU think the actions of a few around here are acceptable to the forum as a whole?

Do you think they are beneficial?

Do you think they haven't been harmful?

I mean - YOU do REALIZE this place is a business.... RIGHT?

 

[aceking123]

hello all . as im a player & read alot of these threads about all kinds of things & this is a great forum ! i realy dont understand to why some of you jump up & go off at the deep end ,its a players right to add to this forum for dissing a casino, praising a casino & so forth ,if your a aff , its part of your job to take some comments with a pinch of salt , if you cant ,thats your problem same as with the casino managers reps & anyone lese out there who joins up knowing anything about online casinos,thats the role YOU chose to play! as for people getting narky , you will always have this doesnt matter what forum it is , were all not the same , we all have different views on things =we all will not agree on things , hence that this makes the forum , all different people putting across different points , where else would you get this input of good or bad? , i think the bryan ,max & all of us do a good job of things , yes your going to get the odd persons that push it a little further , i dont see this as a problem , i dont think anyones out to dis casinomeister bryan ,max & etc etc but it does get heated in here sometimes , with all players sometimes having the same thoughts & feelings about the same casino all adding there part into a casino thread , this to some people is so called mobbing , i dont think it is , we all add input & thats our right to add further comment , it is not mobbing,it not being rude to meister members or bryan or max ,going to onto the rep thingy , he joined from a known bad rogue outfit , common lets wake up here , he was going to get some flack either way you look at & he would of weighed that before joining & he must of had a pretty thick skin knowing that there would be some hassle on a forum after so many people getting ripped from his outfit.

 

[WagerWitch]

hello all . as im a player & read alot of these threads about all kinds of things & this is a great forum ! i realy dont understand to why some of you jump up & go off at the deep end ,its a players right to add to this forum for dissing a casino, praising a casino & so forth ,if your a aff , its part of your job to take some comments with a pinch of salt , if you cant ,thats your problem same as with the casino managers reps & anyone lese out there who joins up knowing anything about online casinos,thats the role YOU chose to play! as for people getting narky , you will always have this doesnt matter what forum it is , were all not the same , we all have different views on things =we all will not agree on things , hence that this makes the forum , all different people putting across different points , where else would you get this input of good or bad? , i think the bryan ,max & all of us do a good job of things , yes your going to get the odd persons that push it a little further , i dont see this as a problem , i dont think anyones out to dis casinomeister bryan ,max & etc etc but it does get heated in here sometimes , with all players sometimes having the same thoughts & feelings about the same casino all adding there part into a casino thread , this to some people is so called mobbing , i dont think it is , we all add input & thats our right to add further comment , it is not mobbing,it not being rude to meister members or bryan or max ,going to onto the rep thingy , he joined from a known bad rogue outfit , common lets wake up here , he was going to get some flack either way you look at & he would of weighed that before joining & he must of had a pretty thick skin knowing that there would be some hassle on a forum after so many people getting ripped from his outfit.

Thank you very much for expressing your opinion - without making it personal and sharing your insight.

The only thing I want to say to you, is not that there is or was "heat", there were words that were blatant flaming, intimidation factors and rudeness.

No one should be treated like this.

We are in public - just because people can hide behind the anonymity of being online does not mean that it is OK to treat other people like crap.

I respect the rights of others to have opinions. I don't expect other people to agree with me... However, I do expect respect and expect to treat others with respect in ANY public surrounding.

Does that make sense?

I'm not saying people cannot have opinions - but where your RIGHTS cross my RIGHTS is when you cross the boundary of acceptable behavior.

You can tell me until you are blue in the face that you disagree with what I have to say - and that is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE - Until you cross that line with profanity, vulgar innuendos, intimidation and vicious behavior.

There is a distinct difference.

 

[rockycatt]

is there a agenda to this thread , why so much smoke , why not just Handel it like a pab and pm bryan or any of the mods I'm shure they still got the front door keys

 

[AussieDave]

I find these people highly offensive.

If a certain member(s) get you this upset use the ignore option.

Reality is, forums (and not just CM) are a combination of peeps from all walks of life, cultural backgrounds and ultimately are individuals with their own thoughts, feelings and opinions.

I believe everyone has a right to express their opinions; feelings; thoughts, whether these be aligned to my way of thinking or not.

Given the fundamental niche of the CM forum, there are going to be peeps who have been shafted by gambling venues. Members who are angry, frustrated and ultimately pissed off.

Although I don't subscribe to flaming and personal attacks in my posts, I too can and have become emotionally entangled in topics. I dare say most members from any given gambling forum (including you WW) have too.

As much as I feel everyone has a right to say what's on their mind, there is a definite line between expressing passionate feelings and coming across as dogmatic, brow beating, glass house posting rants. And IMHO that's not cool!

Start telling people how to act or taking shots at people's posts that don't fit your opinions on how things should be, only alienates people further.

If Bryan or the CM forum Mod's have an issue with a post that strays outside the acceptable forum posting rules they'll take appropriate action.

If an individual CM member thinks a post is out of line, they use the report a post option. Bryan or the forum Mods with address this accordingly.

I've outlined two options that are readily available to not only you WW but all CM forum members.

So if you find certain a CM member or members to be "highly offensive" use the ignore option or the report a post option.

However if you choose NOT to use the ignore option, (set-up for this exact reason) or the report a post option, BUT continue to point your virtual finger through posting your distaste at those CM members who offend you with their posting styles, I can only conclude it's an attempt to push a hidden agenda...Whatever that maybe


Cheers



Dave

 

[AussieDave]

Your protesting about subject matter you've identified as taking total umbrage over WW.

I feel like I'm sixteen and my mom keeps yelling at me!!

If you guys feel like you are 16 and your mother is yelling at you - then perhaps you ought to look at the REASONS your mother was yelling at you.

However you hold no qualms in delivering a back handed slap to lost2much because she/he does not subscribe to your opinions.

Give it rest WW...this is turning into a do as I say not as I do thread.

FYI...hypocrisies don't sit well with me.


Cheers



Dave

 

[lovetogamble]

.......it seems you are doing one of the exact same things that you say upsets you so much, name calling.

Agree!
I think what Bryan dislikes most is threads like this one. It stirs up crap and makes people angry. I find it best to just let words posted by others fall by the way side.

 

[WagerWitch]

Aussie - there is NO agenda.

I want the RUDE VICIOUS FLAMING behavior to stop - because it is unjust, unfair and not called for.

There is NO agenda in wanting decency on a place that I frequent - now is there?

AND - point blank I did NOT backhand the other poster - I said: if you feel like this - then maybe there is a reason.

Look - I can be rude - I can tell people to stick it - and I'm much wordier than most people - so you can be sure that I can insult you PROFOUNDLY with my words if that is what I chose to do.

YOU WILL KNOW if I CHOOSE TO INSULT YOU.

I have yet to treat anyone like I have recently witnessed people treating others.

You may not like me or my posting style - that's fine - but show me --- PROVE TO ME -- one place where I've called anyone names like this group has been Dave.

You're usually levelheaded - but right now you blocked out a grouping of what I said - and turned it around and if that is what you TRULY believe then I'm surprised.

If you feel that the activity shown on Marty's thread was acceptable PUBLIC BEHAVIOR - then you aren't the kind of person that I thought you were.

I found it despicable

I don't care how much you dislike a casino or a group of people - while in a public forum you should remain CIVIL.

And those people were disgusting.

I was offended and completely in shock over the matter.

I'm sorry - guys - you have overstepped what I believe are acceptable boundaries for ANY public forum...

It turned into a HATEFEST...

and if that is something YOU agree to I'd be shocked.

It's like watching a stoning take place - and you guys are cheering each other on.

It's SICK.

 

[WagerWitch]

Your protesting about subject matter you've identified as taking total umbrage over WW.





However you hold no qualms in delivering a back handed slap to lost2much because she/he does not subscribe to your opinions.

Give it rest WW...this is turning into a do as I say not as I do thread.

FYI...hypocrisies don't sit well with me.


Cheers



Dave

And Dave - If you're going to call me a hypocrite by saying I am calling people names - then you're kinda reading into things.

I'm not wagging my finger in someone's face.

I am stating my opinion of behavior that took place and again I will state it again - it was UNACCEPTABLE to me. It was unacceptable to others.

If you are taking this as a cut down - then it's your perception of it - and let me tell you - it is far different than MY perception of it.

I'm telling you that what I saw - what I observed was despicable - horrible and disgusting. I want NO part in it.

Tell me how that is name calling?

GO ON _ TELL ME HOW saying what I observed is name calling.

You can't come up with a simple:

OH MY GOSH - hey - yeah - we got out of line - dude - I'm sorry??

You can't come up with - yes, you're right this behavior was bad???

You can't bring yourself to even realize that what was done was NOT okay by a VERY long reach?

Instead you want to point a finger at me and turn it around?

GIVE ME A BREAK DAVE _ this isn't high school - this is a public forum where ADULTS are expected to act Civilly to one another.

 

[WagerWitch]

Agree!
I think what Bryan dislikes most is threads like this one. It stirs up crap and makes people angry. I find it best to just let words posted by others fall by the way side.

Really?

Thank you for sharing what Bryan likes.

I happen to find it best to deal with the issue - instead of sweeping it under the carpet and letting it PRETEND to not be there.. Cause this is a HUGE elephant in the room.

And personally - the ONLY people who are coming in here complaining are the same ones.... Yep - YOU GOT it.

 

[rockycatt]

this thread is a blog now and self serving albeit not a very good one ,one never the less

we use a saying here in Boston [ dont pay attention they just like the way they sound]

that's all

 

[WagerWitch]

this thread is a blog now and self serving albeit not a very good one ,one never the less

we use a saying here in Boston [ dont pay attention they just like the way they sound]

that's all

Thanks Rocky - I'm not sure what you mean by this, but answer how this is "SELF SERVING"...

Someone else said I had an agenda...

Please take a moment and explain how you mean "SELF SERVING"

or what you mean by agenda...

Cause the only "AGENDA" I have here is to publicly announce that behavior I have witnessed has been HORRIBLE. And to say I'm sick of it.

I'm sick of people thinking it is OK to act like this on a public forum.

So - what is my agenda - and what is self serving about that?

 

[rockycatt]

Thanks Rocky - I'm not sure what you mean by this, but answer how this is "SELF SERVING"...

Someone else said I had an agenda...

Please take a moment and explain how you mean "SELF SERVING"

or what you mean by agenda...

Cause the only "AGENDA" I have here is to publicly announce that behavior I have witnessed has been HORRIBLE. And to say I'm sick of it.

I'm sick of people thinking it is OK to act like this on a public forum.

So - what is my agenda - and what is self serving about that?

for one you are displaying a super out of control ego thats some thing in it self only you can put a cap on if you can address that then the rest will fall into place

PS just look at the amount of very large posts you have made in a thread that you are the originator of and punctuated by the color codes and extreme caps
best signed off respectively R C

 

[WagerWitch]

for one you are displaying a super out of control ego thats some thing in it self only you can put a cap on if you can address that then the rest will fall into place

PS just look at the amount of very large posts you have made in a thread that you are the originator of and punctuated by the color codes and extreme caps
best signed off respectively R C

I'm sorry rocky - I'm not getting what you're saying here.

You're saying that by telling others that their behavior is unacceptable in a public place I have a huge ego?

Is that correct?

I mean - if you walked past a bunch of punk kids kicking an old lady up against a wall - would you just walk by?

OK - now we all know I write a ton. Sorry - just me - it's not meant to be offensive - just the way I am.

Color codes and extreme caps? I don't get it - some people want me to post this way or that way...

Do you simply understand the point I am trying to make?

This is a public forum.
This Forum is a BUSINESS
PEOPLE should treat other PEOPLE with decency and civility.

How is that a super ego?

I post a lot - because that is what I do... But have I been vulgar or rude or vicious or hating on or to anyone? Have I cussed anyone out and told them to "F" off?

I'd really like to know how you equated my posting with EGO - because it took a lot of guts for me to stand up and say these things.

It took a lot of guts for me to finally get offended and extremely angry at the way people are being treated.

This should be a safe zone - where gamblers and casinos can come together and work things out.

Or discuss things in a calm - constructive manner.

Not one where we are screaming for people to die or do horrible things.

So - please tell me how that is an EGO?

I don't undertand...

 

[just play]

I agree for the most part of what WW is saying, but there is a way to say things.

Some of the recent posts on different threads were nasty, but if Bryan allows that sort of thing, that's his choice.

No one will ever change the way people are. I don't mean just here at this forum, but I mean anywhere. Do I like the way everyone posts? No. Does everyone like the way I post? No. You (general you) just have to go with the flow. I talk to people who I agree with and disagree with. Sometimes it feels like I don't like a particular person, but then I step back and realize, I don't dislike the person, I just have a totally different opinion. Feelings often get in the way of how you (general you) judge a person.

If anyone feels so strongly about certain posts/threads you have a few options....use the ignore button/skip the post/thread all together/sit on it for a few days or hours and decide if you should get into it (reply). There was a thread here that I wanted to reply to, but decided against it, because I knew it would cause me stress. Yes, that seems strange, but some people like me get stressed about certain topics.

WW, the only advice I would give anyone, including myself, if a forum is going in a direction you don't like, you (general you) should find a different forum that you like. OR...follow the directions in the above paragraph.

This forum will never change, I have been here years, it has always been the same. Strong opinions have always been here. People come and go, but the strong opinions will always be the same, by another person who comes, or an oldie who stays.

 

[WagerWitch]

I agree for the most part of what WW is saying, but there is a way to say things.

Some of the recent posts on different threads were nasty, but if Bryan allows that sort of thing, that's his choice.

No one will ever change the way people are. I don't mean just here at this forum, but I mean anywhere. Do I like the way everyone posts? No. Does everyone like the way I post? No. You (general you) just have to go with the flow. I talk to people who I agree with and disagree with. Sometimes it feels like I don't like a particular person, but then I step back and realize, I don't dislike the person, I just have a totally different opinion. Feelings often get in the way of how you (general you) judge a person.

If anyone feels so strongly about certain posts/threads you have a few options....use the ignore button/skip the post/thread all together/sit on it for a few days or hours and decide if you should get into it (reply). There was a thread here that I wanted to reply to, but decided against it, because I knew it would cause me stress. Yes, that seems strange, but some people like me get stressed about certain topics.

WW, the only advice I would give anyone, including myself, if a forum is going in a direction you don't like, you (general you) should find a different forum that you like. OR...follow the directions in the above paragraph.

This forum will never change, I have been here years, it has always been the same. Strong opinions have always been here. People come and go, but the strong opinions will always be the same, by another person who comes, or an oldie who stays.

I appreciate your thoughts on this.

The only point I have been trying to make is that if people don't start speaking up - and just go with the flow... Eventually ALL of us will end up kicking that old lady up against the wall - and then high fiving ourselves after that.

And I don't want to be like that. I don't want to see it.

And no one else is speaking up anymore. They've already been bashed and they didn't like it.

I don't want to go away - but I don't think I'm asking for too much by asking for civility to happen.

The typical mosh pit is fine - but these actions were beyond that.

I just wanted to say thank you for your post tho - it was well written and very well intentioned - and I appreciate you taking the time to write it out.

 

[AussieDave]

Give It A Rest WW

The only point I have been trying to make

Here's some stats:

Total pages = 4

Total posts = 31

Posts by WW = 15

It's one thing getting a point across...it's another disrespecting other members opinions and bullying them into submission with a brow beating rhetoric.

You've established your "point" and opinion on post #1 of this thread. And so too in the Marty Davis thread.

Switch the PC off, take a walk, have a cuppa, but please give it a rest...


Cheers



Dave

 

[WagerWitch]

Here some stats:

Total pages = 4

Total posts = 31

Posts by WW = 15

It's one thing getting a point across...it's another disrespecting other members opinion and bullying them into submission with a brow beating rhetoric.

Switch the PC off, take a walk, have a cuppa, but please give it a rest...You've established your "point"...


Cheers



Dave

Uhm - you're confusing the issue of me responding to each person's post in a thread or discussion.

Big difference.

The way you posted it makes it look like someone is being rude.

I'm not.

I've started the thread - I'm responding to each persons' post - just like EVERY good host should.


And when did this become an issue of post wars or something?

I mean ---- is there a posting limit stipulated somewhere? Is there an unwritten description of how people should behave?

Because I didn't realize having a decent conversation with people was considered egotistical and rude --- and required a break or someone telling me to turn off my computer.

How odd...

You can't be serious - right? You were trying to be funny right?

And I'm completely surprised at your comment of saying I am disrespecting other people's opinions.. SHOW ME --- Explain how ANYTHING I've said is disrespectful - and how it is so.

But MAKE SURE - you take the thread and the comments in their entirety - and not just chop them up for manipulative benefit.

 

[WagerWitch]

And if you think what I am doing is bullying - then by god - what have the rest of the people been doing - and why haven't you called THEM out on it?

HMMM?

 

[Brooklyn]

No disrespect intended, but what is the point of all of this?

 

[AussieDave]

if you think what I am doing is bullying - then by god - what have the rest of the people been doing

-

Oh so If person X jumps off a bridge you do too...Who's acting like a child now...

why haven't you called THEM out on it?

If I have a problem with a post I use the appropriate options available to me. If after that it's a problem then Bryan or the other Mod's will take care of it.

someone telling me to turn off my computer.

Bingo!!!

But you don't mind brow beating and bullying CM member(s) who don't agree with you & or what to do with their opinions...ect...ect

Attempt to use quasi justifications to package your thread rants as a debate, proves you hold little respect for other CM members opinions that don't agree with you.

Stamp your feet, yell at the top of your lungs I WANT...blah...blah..blah and continue this soap box drama...but I'm out here.


Cheers



Dave

 

[denamoutz]

The only reason i enjoy this forum is for the contraversy, i can read this every day and get a good laugh, its almost better than my soap operas i watch If i don't like what i see, i don't have to read it, plain and simple, if you don't like the name callin turn off your computer As for me i enjoy the shit out of it

 

[Simmo!]

The sentiment behind this thread was good but it's just going in circles and isn't really achieving anything now IMO so ... closed, before it gets out of hand