Deposit Bonuses - Good or Bad?

[shannyls]

I see members posting they never do deposit bonuses. I always do, I figure more money, more chances at winning. Is it the playthrough percentage that makes this a bad idea. I am questioning taking the bonuses in the future. It might be nice to win and not have to survive a playthrough?

Just curious...

 

[dionysus]

It really comes down to personal preference.
A bonus could mean more playtime and more $ to try for those big hits.
No bonus means no headaches; what you win is yours.

Personally, if I'm low on funds but want to play, I'll take a 100% (and never less than 50%).
If I've $ to spare, I do straight up deps without.

 

[nisosbar]

I use them rarely. On occasions when I have one available, but do not wish to use it, it's typically because when I play, I want to cash out right away, without doing any more calculating or checking with customer service to see if I'm good to withdraw, and then there are all the stupid terms - by that I mean, all the fine print in which there are sometimes terms hidden in order to unilaterally cancel a withdrawal because of some sort of goofy violation.

Meanwhile, I ALWAYS take the 3Dice bonuses - the terms are so easy as to make the bonus almost the same as cash. They have something like 5x or at most 10x playthrough, usually no prohibited games. And I don't think I've ever seen a complaint here in the forums about 3Dice canceling a withdrawal due to any violation of bonus terms.

 

[the_riz]

I see members posting they never do deposit bonuses. I always do, I figure more money, more chances at winning. Is it the playthrough percentage that makes this a bad idea. I am questioning taking the bonuses in the future. It might be nice to win and not have to survive a playthrough?

Just curious...

I think bonuses are very good..... for the casino. People will rarely get through the playthrough. That said however, i use bonuses simply to increase my playtime. think ive got through the playthroughs a handful of time too but give it all back. Im after fun and the joy of an occasional good sized win rather than hoping to win everytime so the longer i can make the funds last the better.

 

[mrmark21]

I don't use deposit bonuses unless I'm playing RTG as I never win on that platform. I enjoy the games though so use a bonus to increase playtime.

Bonuses are a trap because often they come with too high wagering requirements.

 

[dionysus]

I don't use deposit bonuses unless I'm playing RTG as I never win on that platform. I enjoy the games though so use a bonus to increase playtime.

Bonuses are a trap because often they come with too high wagering requirements.

There's a few with pretty low ones, like 15X or range: intercasino, bet365, 3dice

 

[Vegasbum]

Two scenarios:

You take a bonus. First spin you win 500 dollars. However you can't cash out until you clear the playthrough. Good chance you lose it all and never see any money

or:

You don't take a bonus and win 500 on your first spin. Now you quickly cash out and the money is all yours.

That is the biggest reason some don't take the bonus

 

[dionysus]

well, a fair few in your scenario may not let you take that 500 on your 1st spin, expecting a 1x roll-over minimum, citing money laundering as the rationale.
in your scenario, you can look at the other side of the coin; you get crapola on the 50 bucks, but a fantastic hit on the 51st, which you wouldnt have had without the extra bankroll from the deposit bonus

 

[Jasminebed]

I'm mostly a slot player, which makes taking bonuses a little less complicated in most cases. I usually like to play a while, I'm unlikely to withdraw right away if I hit something good anyway.

3Dice's bonuses (except the SUB) are a reward for loyalty, and quite good at my VIP level. You don't get offered many in a month. Gold VIP level match bonuses don't have a WR, that is free cash for depositing. I always take mine, whatever level I'm at.

I take a lot of bonuses at 32Red. If I don't take a bonus, its because I used it already, or there is not one that day. I often bust out before completing WR, and sometimes I bust out even after a decent hit trying to finish WR. But I like the chance to play at a little higher stake, or for a little longer. I sometimes end up winning more than I would have because I do have to keep spinning rather than just cash out. 32Red and many microgaming casinos you can follow your own bonus progress easily.

RTG bonuses come in two flavours... cashable and non-cashable. I don't personally have a great track record at RTG, and I do often use bonuses to get additional playtime. Quite good hits can seem to disappear in a way I don't find at MG. And when you have to give back the bonus amount on cashing out, that definitely influences how much benefit the player receives from the bonus.

I only play two NetEnts regularly, Nordicbet and Redbet... neither offers a lot of bonuses, and most are lower percentages and on smaller amounts. They do have some low variance slots, I can usually complete a WR even if I don't have as much as my deposit left. That happens when I deposit without a bonus too, I don't have as much as my deposit left.

If you like to play more than just slots, or play really agressively when ahead, play without a bonus might be preferrable.

And to my mind, any kind of free bonus or cashback is good, even with restrictions. A second chance so to speak.

 

[muziq]

i normally take bonus well any thing above 50% normally recently i took a 100% bonus in nordic bet and played with 200 and after wagering i wihdraw more than 1k
if i were playing for real i would cashed out at 300 or 350 max

and i also took welcome bonus at redrabbit and withdrawn 3K from a 200 dep

but saying this i also took welcome bonus in red bet and i were at 650 one time but after wagering i withdrawn only 200

so that tell you two sides of the story ...

as i said i normally prefer to play with bonus bcs it gives more play time ,give a bank roll to try out different games

the one think i notice when i take bonus is its possible to wager it (like the bonus*30 times in Mg, and deposit plus bonus*12 times in winner)

and then the bonus must be cashable and there wont be any max cash out rule

thanks

Muziq

 

[Jasminebed]

If you want to play with bonuses, then you must read rules, not something everyone wants to do. They can vary widely from place to place, even on the same platform.

If you have questions, ask support. And save those emails with answers and chat transcripts.

Free cash is not free, it comes with strings attached. To my mind, the best bonuses don't make it worse for the player. Just different.

Sometimes there are bonuses that do make it better for the player (plus EV). Casinos like 3Dice they are a reward for loyalty, I think Redbet offers some better bonuses for high loyalty levels, but you kind of "buy" your bonuses before they are offered. Just like I "bought" my free room offer at my fav B&M.

Some bonuses are just awful. I've taken quite a few of those too in my time. Even bad odds can be beaten.

 

[mrmark21]

There's a few with pretty low ones, like 15X or range: intercasino, bet365, 3dice

3 Dice has 30 x WR. I can't play at Bet365 cos I'm Australian. I'll have a look into Intercasino though

 

[mattsgame]

3 Dice has 30 x WR. I can't play at Bet365 cos I'm Australian. I'll have a look into Intercasino though

3Dice base there wagering upon V.I.P level. I have had some that are only 5x - 10x and 15x, while at the top of the food chain they literally have no wr as far as I am aware.

Make sure you read Intercasinos bonus rules they have been very sloppy of late (not the SUB generally, but email offers).

 

[mrmark21]

3Dice base there wagering upon V.I.P level. I have had some that are only 5x - 10x and 15x, while at the top of the food chain they literally have no wr as far as I am aware.

Make sure you read Intercasinos bonus rules they have been very sloppy of late (not the SUB generally, but email offers).

Intercasino's 15 X D + B so effectively 30 X WR. Not much different to other bonuses. Given the low RTP rates on their slots I'm thinking a bonus with that size WR isn't a good deal?

How about a bonus for an RTG casino with a bonus that has less than 20 X D + B?

 

[dionysus]

intercasinos games seem to be hard, but oddly, i make moderate WDs there

 

[mrmark21]

intercasinos games seem to be hard, but oddly, i make moderate WDs there

I know you do I can't seem to catch a break on them

 

[dionysus]

oh, theyre rough too.....im not saying its common, lol, just the odd one here and there

 

[Webzcas]

I see members posting they never do deposit bonuses. I always do, I figure more money, more chances at winning. Is it the playthrough percentage that makes this a bad idea. I am questioning taking the bonuses in the future. It might be nice to win and not have to survive a playthrough?

Just curious...

All depends on what the wagering requirements are. If they are stupid with limits on total cash out, then I won't take them. However, if the limit is reasonable ie 30x the bonus amount, then I sometimes will take them. The way I play slots, I tend to only want to cash out if I build up a decent amount. By that stage I will have normally smashed the wagering requirement into oblivion. ( Not in the Richard Keys sense! )

 

[IanO]

Two scenarios:

You take a bonus. First spin you win 500 dollars. However you can't cash out until you clear the playthrough. Good chance you lose it all and never see any money

I can see both sides of this, but wanted to add some additional maths to this example. Lets say the deposit in this case was £50 (with 100% match) and you had a WR of 30X (so £1500 playthrough) and on your first spin hit that £500 win.

A 30X playthrough might be tricky, but suddenly you have £500 and a £1,500 play through to meet, essentially dropping it to 3X. Even on the worst of unlucky streaks if your careful you should still finish up with a healthy profit. Just dont get too greedy and keep going for the next £500

Of course, in cases with *massive* bonuses the numbers shift accordingly, so be aware of that.

 

[dunover]

Obviously some bonuses are better than others. IF the bonus WR is any more than 30x (or 15x dep+bonus) I don't touch it. I think 40/50/60 x bonus is completely ludicrous. I take fractal bonuses i.e. 35/50% almost always.
There is also the consideration of what variance you are playing. If going for big hits like BDBA/DoA I think it is a GOOD idea to take bonuses; you cover far more spins to give you a better chance of the 1k+ stake wins, and if you do hit say a 2kx on one, you can switch to a LV slot to make your playthrough. Remember, a big hit may even exceed your total playthrough amount, so even if you lost on every spin, you can relax knowing you will cash something out in the end.
Then we have HOW the bonus is paid. Obviously Wintingo's new method is a no-brainer for no-hassle cashouts. Then we have the ClearPlay VPL type ones, still good as they cash in 10% increments. The least likely for success are those where say you have a 3k WR for 100 dep+100% bonus on 30x bonus playthrough, and as soon as you hit the 3k playthrough the whole lot turns to cash at once. Great if you get there, but not many do.
You pays your money, takes your choice. Only experience will make people's minds up......

 

[RikkiGT-R]

I always take the first deposit match bonus (where applicable) when joining a new casino, I've had some fantastic wins with those bonuses. Beyond that it has to be really good for me to take.
I'm forever plagued by Royal Vegas lately with a 30% match bonus offer (maximum £150 bonus on top of a £500 deposit), which is borderline offensive. I deposit a lot, they add a little, yet claim ownership of my entire balance until I meet ludicrous WR which would run into the £10,000 and beyond marker. I don't think so

I also despise free spins that even the highest rated casinos sometimes award me. 5 or maybe 10 free spins on minimum coin, minimum bet. As soon as the free spins are over, the bet jumps 10-fold and we're told to "use our own money from now on..." cheeky fuckers imo.

 

[shannyls]

So how about 40% bonus, no Playthrough? That would be a good one, because you get free money, but no playthrough.

 

[polli123]

Sounds good, but i don´t think this would be good for a casino company on a long term.

 

[secret2]

If I take a bonus, it would have to be 100 percent, as I am a low-roller.

If the bonus were lower, then I would just play without bonus.

It's a good thing to play without a bonus, occasionally, so as not to be bonus banned.

Having said that, as I deposit usually under $60 per deposit,I feel like I am flying without a parachute because I like to have a long playtime... but it seems that if I wager low in the beginning, then up it after a few nice hits...it works out the same as if I had a bonus (extra money to extend my play time).

I have heard many experienced members here, that stated it is mostly a better thing to play without bonus.

CWC has a nice low playthrough, occasionally.

I dunno..half of one and 6 of the other.

 

[mrmark21]

oh, theyre rough too.....im not saying its common, lol, just the odd one here and there

Just got reminded why i don't deposit there anymore