Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[jaydub]

I am not an expert anyway but I got the pfizer first 2 doses , now they are saying the 3rd dose is designed to fight the Delta variant , don't we have lambda variant already ?

How many doses one has to take ? I don't want my body to explode lol , I understand its nobody's fault , its just sad that its looking like its never going to end

 

[cncas2123]

Below is link from EU site for patents (on that linked page is also a link (to US website for patents), date, documents and information about when the same patent was registered in the United States. In Holland-Netherlands patent has been registered in 2015):

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Is this dark age yet?!
My personal opinios is: Yes it is! Why is the human race so stupid in the twenty-first century, considering all of the technology that is only a one or two-second touch away from us?

People are one thing, and science is another... Which of those two "terms" has a monopoly(control) in the mass-media? And do you really believe that political figures who are socipats and psyhopats only exist in history books? (Caligula, Neron, Hitler, Alexander The Macedonian or The Great, Cezar, Napoleon, George W Bush, Stalin, plenty of UK/England rulers etc...the list is too long, and it does not exclude any race, nation or skin color.)

- Take away the bots and watch the narrative disappear.

And, once again, I would recommend the following phrase:

- Take away the bots and watch the narrative disappear.

P.S. This is screenshoot i made 48 hours ago from the same

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destination. ((kind of same situation was on World Bank export-import database worldwide - open for everyone to examine (i work in export-import area 25+ years so i use that WB database long time), at end of year 2020, but they change the NAMES in database in 48 hours after videos and pictures emerged on internet, also have pics and videos made by myself, so not downloaded from social networks)).

You obviously dont understand that its called Covid-19 because of the year 2019 when you did your photoshopping.... very strange that only one person in the whole wide world stumbled upon this and it happened to be you.
People who propagate this utter bullshit are the worst type because they know exactly what they are doing, providing fake information for gullible people who take it to the next level.

 

[Bunbu]

You obviously dont understand that its called Covid-19 because of the year 2019 when you did your photoshopping.... very strange that only one person in the whole wide world stumbled upon this and it happened to be you.
People who propagate this utter bullshit are the worst type because they know exactly what they are doing, providing fake information for gullible people who take it to the next level.

Did you click the link?! Nope you did not! Its offical EU website for patents registred in EU, you can access it any language spoken in EU and Europe, btw. And this info is old (2020) news for people who read and watch sources from every way.

Or yes i am HAL from 2001 and i can photoshop what you see on any website. Its easy click link and enter that database website, and see "photoshop" and again it is

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who leads direct to EU website database for registred patents - no picture- or LINK is picture?! Confused?

Getting my medicine now! And yet picture i posted

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(linked means its live view in database its not photoshoped picture) (in the moment i am live photoshoping on the website so you can see year 2015!, Force is with me!) show same year, 2015.

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on the list.

Or i must be Loki, master of lies? (from that new BS Marvel series)?

P.S. You obviously dont have and dont read/watch any other sources for informations then CNN, BBC and whatever same Gebels idea propaganda wherever you are.

P.S.S.
Global dosie link, how patent moved from Netherlands - EU patent to USA, with all legal documents asked. - HINT is the phrase: click the link!

EPO Global Dossier US202016876114​

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- Take away the bots and watch the narrative disappear.

 

[dealer wins]

Meister members aged under 50, do NOT take the vaccine at all costs. The vax is killing and maiming people, covid is of low or no risk to you the younger you are.

 

[jaydub]

From the way I look at it , its a massive challenge to humanity( me , you , scientists, pharmas all in this ) , blame game is not going to help ... Honestly I was annoyed to learn that my 2 doses of pfizer not enough to fight Delta variant after pfizer looking to get approval for 3rd shot but what to do , we all are learning , anyone who claims to be an expert on this is fake

 

[Bunbu]

From the way I look at it , its a massive challenge to humanity( me , you , scientists, pharmas all in this ) , blame game is not going to help ... Honestly I was annoyed to learn that my 2 doses of pfizer not enough to fight Delta variant after pfizer looking to get approval for 3rd shot but what to do , we all are learning , anyone who claims to be an expert on this is fake

In essence, doctors do not cure me or you; politicians and the mass-media have become the new "Covid doctors" for almost two years!
How?

Social experiment on Obedience to Authority, Berkeley University, year 1974.

LINK:

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(Milgram, S. (1974). Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View.)

And yes, it is the most irrational thing to believe self-proclaimed authority on TV or internet or any other media (over any topic ). That just suggest that humans who belive in them and don't ask any question are amebas - without any use of of brain reasoning/logic or even fundamental education, about biology, math etc that way.
Authority should be earned through real actions, not just sayings like "I am the best! I am the most powerful! I am..."

However, today's political "elite" is in charge of the globe and children's fundamental education. Make them as foolish, dumb and naive as possible, then do anything you want with them, until they die as 80 years old amebas.

The actual "race/covid/gay/straight..." debate isn't about "black/white/red/pro-anti vacines/whatever"; the true "race" debate is about celebrities/the super-rich/TrumpsBidens/QueensKings/Bezos/Putins/Whoever and most of all - CEO's/Owners of extremely large multinational trusts (i work for company on fortune 500 list, it is in top 40 on that list)... vs the rest of us.

God Save The Covid!

 

[bowki]

From the way I look at it , its a massive challenge to humanity( me , you , scientists, pharmas all in this ) , blame game is not going to help ... Honestly I was annoyed to learn that my 2 doses of pfizer not enough to fight Delta variant after pfizer looking to get approval for 3rd shot but what to do , we all are learning , anyone who claims to be an expert on this is fake

Amen to that!

 

[bowki]

I can only express my personal opinion, but after I got my second vaccination I can not report any negative effects.

Actually, I feel better than ever. Faster, more stable and just safer.


Just like Windows 11. The fastest, safest and most stable OS of all times. Get your copy now at microsoft.com and get a 10% discount using the code Casinomeister2021!

 

[mack341]

Malta says children aged 12-16 must be fully vaccinated in order to holiday on the island [itv.com]​

Visit Malta said: "Children aged 5-11 can travel if they accompany their vaccinated parents/ legal guardian provided they provide a negative nasopharyngeal PCR test carried out within 72 hours before arrival in Malta.

"Children under 5 do not need a test, while those aged 12+ can only travel with a full vaccination certificate."

 

[cncas2123]

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[Slottery]

Malta says children aged 12-16 must be fully vaccinated in order to holiday on the island [itv.com]​

Visit Malta said: "Children aged 5-11 can travel if they accompany their vaccinated parents/ legal guardian provided they provide a negative nasopharyngeal PCR test carried out within 72 hours before arrival in Malta.

"Children under 5 do not need a test, while those aged 12+ can only travel with a full vaccination certificate."

Here's bit more about it if interested:

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Happy to got these covid jabs, would need to travel funerals next week and would be impossible at the moment without them... One things is that they really announced this on Friday and it's coming active next Wednesday so not much time to do anything even you would get jab right away it's not 14 days which is requirement.

There are quite a lot rant in around social media as few months ago Maltas government was begging tourists by giving them money just for coming here on holiday and now some can't make it and can't really see that airlines etc.. would refund ticket fees, accommodations refund paid fees etc... which can be quite costy for family of four for example..

Then if you were unlucky and can got a jab from wrong batch, it's tough luck as well. Of course also only European (UK included) vaccination certs are accepted (and vaccinations which are approved in EU, so no Sputnik or other ones whcih also were used in some EU countries) so not great great either if you are Maltese expact in US and would have planned to come home for holiday (Maltese residence can contact health staff and arrange their return but if living abroad, you're with current rules denied to return your home country which passport you carry.

In a travel advisory by the UK's foreign office, travellers were warned that those who were administered the Astrazeneca vaccine with batch numbers: 4120Z001, 4120Z002, 4120Z003 will be denied entry.

Just to add, vaccination coverage here is really high, which might be reason that even here are loads of new infections, i have good hope that health care can carry at least yesterdays pressure:

Despite the rapid rise in infection rates, hospitalisation rates are still low, with just three of the current 252 virus patients in hospital.
The most recent hospital patient is a foreign national who lives in Malta who had received their first vaccine dose a short while before being infected, Fearne said.

Malta has the EU's highest vaccination rate, with just over 346,000 people fully vaccinated - 79 per cent of adults - fully vaccinated. Around 84 per cent of adults have received an initial vaccine dose.

 

[mack341]

I appreciate being an island they might take a harder line, but wiith the vulnerable double jabbed insisting 12 yr olds on holiday are too is overdoing things imo.

it's the bollox of asymptomatic transmission, someone with no symptoms themselves [ which requires virus replication to trigger a cough etc..] a major threat to the vaccinated. Just another coercion tactic by authorities to force the vaxxes on the population, you never put all your eggs in one basket, but taking natural immunity out of the picture is doing just that.

 

[mack341]

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[mack341]

Reiner fuellmich had an interesting guest, dr david martin, discussing patents back to 1999. Prior to sars1 the coronvirus family had been part of our common cold illnesses, not a problem. Dr martin who studies patents as part of his business as a top underwriter believes the coronavirus genus has been weaponised, there are 120 patents relating to it [up to april 2020 ], this has been in the planning for 20 years.

He covers a lot of ground and precise details so will need to watch it again, he is not some wacko and careful with any claims made.

 

[Jono777]

Shocking if true (but not surprising for many, I guess)

Brace yourself for the incoming responses ......

 

[mack341]

I might have to give up this line of enquiry methinks, joking aside if it is true there'll be no prizes for those trying to expose it. And we're at the start of things planned rather than the end. Follow your conscience as best you can, I'm always of the mind we ought to pass on the same freedoms and good things we've enjoyed to the coming generations, future brits, whichever country you're ftom etc... Maybe a state of bio security surveilance and changes to life from the great reset is 'progress', an inevitable result of science and technology, and unlikely now to be halted no matter who objects.

 

[Slottery]

That "great reset" sounds quite cool and alarming but it really is no a secret plan going on, it's been quite well public for all who wanted to follow and it's not some "new world order" planned for decades, just great few words what can be used for many different own conspiracy theories which then of course forget to mention what that actually is...

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[mack341]

That "great reset" sounds quite cool and alarming but it really is no a secret plan going on, it's been quite well public for all who wanted to follow and it's not some "new world order" planned for decades, just great few words what can be used for many different own conspiracy theories which then of course forget to mention what that actually is...

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Is it being democratically voted for, how long has it being pondered on by klaus and co, if not decades? Were you aware of it prior to 2020?

Relying on the bbc for truthful analysis on such a topic is a bit naive to be frank.

Edit: And with that i'm done, hope we can go back to normal soon fully.

 

[Slottery]

Is it being democratically voted for, how long has it being pondered on by klaus and co, if not decades? Were you aware of it prior to 2020?

Relying on the bbc for truthful analysis on such a topic is a bit naive to be frank.

Edit: And with that i'm done, hope we can go back to normal soon fully.

Is it some forced legislation for all countries have to accept? It's just piece of paper where people have made theories. You can find loads of writings about (not only from BBC, usually just if posting here some original documents people complain these are boring or hard to understand when they go to science so linked to BBC which should be easy enough to understand even not having diploma in economics) it if you just wanna look, just making it a conspiracy theory is naive.

Maybe you could show us some proof that there is some worldwide conspiracy theory called "Great Reset" what all countries for some reason would need to follow? It's just some theories and people try to forecast what would be best for future but of course it have come conspiracy theory because it have cool name and some people who understand economy have created it.

 

[mack341]

Is it some forced legislation for all countries have to accept? It's just piece of paper where people have made theories. You can find loads of writings about (not only from BBC, usually just if posting here some original documents people complain these are boring or hard to understand when they go to science so linked to BBC which should be easy enough to understand even not having diploma in economics) it if you just wanna look, just making it a conspiracy theory is naive.

Maybe you could show us some proof that there is some worldwide conspiracy theory called "Great Reset" what all countries for some reason would need to follow? It's just some theories and people try to forecast what would be best for future but of course it have come conspiracy theory because it have cool name and some people who understand economy have created it.

The conspiracy is it's being forced on people, changing established ways of life and certain freedoms, it's not a jfk type conspiracy where the powerful bump someone off, klaus himself said covid was the opportunity to herald in the great reset. But from the way you have phrased your reply, this discussion is going nowhere; 'conspiracy theory' (which you use dismissively) and malta are actually no strangers, maybe you don't follow events there that closely, missed the investgative journalist being car bombed?

 

[Slottery]

The conspiracy is it's being forced on people, changing established ways of life and certain freedoms, it's not a jfk type conspiracy where the powerful bump someone off, klaus himself said covid was the opportunity to herald in the great reset. But from the way you have phrased your reply, this discussion is going nowhere; 'conspiracy theory' (which you use dismissively) and malta are actually no strangers, maybe you don't follow events there that closely, missed the investgative journalist being car bombed?

I was just wondering how that "Great Reset" can be found some kind of conspiracy theory as it's been quite known for while and most of theories are not know from day one when someone started to make it. Of course covid is good opportunity when economics do need some solutions to get better again so if there is need for change, this wouldn't be good point to do something?

I'm quite well aware about that car bombing of journalist here and prime minister had to resigned because of too near connections of that but not sure what that have do with covid or great reset? We can start thread about it and i promise to contribute as been following it quite close but it's quite far from this topic.

 

[mack341]

I was just wondering how that "Great Reset" can be found some kind of conspiracy theory as it's been quite known for while and most of theories are not know from day one when someone started to make it. Of course covid is good opportunity when economics do need some solutions to get better again so if there is need for change, this wouldn't be good point to do something?

I'm quite well aware about that car bombing of journalist here and prime minister had to resigned because of too near connections of that but not sure what that have do with covid or great reset? We can start thread about it and i promise to contribute as been following it quite close but it's quite far from this topic.

Yes but it shows what lengths people will go to, and believe they can cover up, authorities are not great at investigating those close or with power, do folk on malta trust the full truth will be found or only parts of it.

Weapons of mass destruction and the dossier was a conspiracy to wage war, but when almost every journalist and media outlet go along with it, we're not in the realm of secret conspiracies, there will be no exposure of this truth on the nightly news, you have to read between the lines, manufactured consent is part of it.

The phrase 'Conspiracy theory' is bandied about, and demands to 'prove it' but that's not realistic, there are occasional whistleblowers who lift the lid, but like snowden they risk life behind bars.

 

[mack341]

I'm fully in 'broken record' territory with covid and all that it entails, for my own and other's sanity, i feel from today i need to give it a break, will just have to see how things evolve and any future developments.

 

[Jono777]

I here Covid is going away never to return as from a week today, 19th July

ONLY if you've had BOTH jabs tho

 

[sufferinsilence]

I here Covid is going away never to return as from a week today, 19th July

ONLY if you've had BOTH jabs tho

Well, fuck me then as I'm getting the 2nd on the 20th

 

[Jono777]

Know this thread is slowly dying on its arse but this just caught my eye as I signed out of my emails

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See if most come to the one word conclusion that I did after reading it.

 

[pinnit2014]

Did we ever sort out the real issue here? (not read the last x amount pages for obvious reasons)

Jag

Or

Jab?

 

[TheAddict]

Know this thread is slowly dying on its arse but this just caught my eye as I signed out of my emails

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See if most come to the one word conclusion that I did after reading it.

I tried reading it. But I haven't slept in over 30 hours and spent 8 of those hours on BOD at 3p on 1 line, so what's left of my brain couldn't quite understand it properly. Except of course for the bit which was explained in a similar way as how a RNG works.

" One way to imagine the risk is as a rain of differently sized ball bearings falling from the sky, where the ball bearings are the people that get infected with COVID. For simplicity’s sake, let’s assume there are roughly equal numbers of ball bearings in each age group. In each age category, there is also a variation in the size of the balls. The balls representing the older groups are smaller, representing a higher risk of death."



Just found out both my next door neigbours on each side (well, 2 down and 2 up), have covid. Woman caught it apparently due to working at the nhs on one side, and the other side are fairly young in their twenties and like to party with a handful of their friends every other weekend in their house, so I suspect that's why they too have it. lucky for me that I'm a natural loser and hadn't bothered befriending them or hardly anyone else where I now live since I moved awsy from my home town some 2.5 years ago.

 

[pinnit2014]

I tried reading it. But I haven't slept in over 30 hours and spent 8 of those hours on BOD at 3p on 1 line, so what's left of my brain couldn't quite understand it properly. Except of course for the bit which was explained in a similar way as how a RNG works.

" One way to imagine the risk is as a rain of differently sized ball bearings falling from the sky, where the ball bearings are the people that get infected with COVID. For simplicity’s sake, let’s assume there are roughly equal numbers of ball bearings in each age group. In each age category, there is also a variation in the size of the balls. The balls representing the older groups are smaller, representing a higher risk of death."



Just found out both my next door neigbours on each side (well, 2 down and 2 up), have covid. Woman caught it apparently due to working at the nhs on one side, and the other side are fairly young in their twenties and like to party with a handful of their friends every other weekend in their house, so I suspect that's why they too have it. lucky for me that I'm a natural loser and hadn't bothered befriending them or hardly anyone else where I now live since I moved awsy from my home town some 2.5 years ago.

This pollen count has really battered me as well

Shall we just run with the catch all approach of 'shit happens, where's my pizza?'

 

[L&L-Jan]

 

[paul7388]

More scaremongering today.

Daily deaths are going up. No shit Sherlock.

If the daily deaths never went up a lot then that would be the surprise.

If figures are to be believed there are 40,000 plus positive cases a day. If you go into Hospital you will get tested and good chance you will be positive.

But you have on average 2000 daily deaths in this country and have done long before Covid. So in a month you are averaging 60,000 deaths.

The daily reported Covid deaths are based on a positive test in last 28 days. So pretty damned obvious the higher the cases the higher daily deaths reported will be as so many people will have caught the disease prior to dying of whatever illness they had.

If covid say only gave you a sore finger and nothing else and every person in this country tested positive for Covid today we would then have about 60,000 covid deaths within the next month.

Time they actually cut the crap and told you how many people that died of covid today actually died because of it. Not something else and only reason they are covid is because they tested positive within 28 days. Damn if i had terminal cancer and a fortnight to live. Went into hospital to die and they did a covid test that was positive. Then when i die in 2 weeks i would be a daily covid death on the statistics.

 

[colinsunderland]

More scaremongering today.

Daily deaths are going up. No shit Sherlock.

If the daily deaths never went up a lot then that would be the surprise.

If figures are to be believed there are 40,000 plus positive cases a day. If you go into Hospital you will get tested and good chance you will be positive.

But you have on average 2000 daily deaths in this country and have done long before Covid. So in a month you are averaging 60,000 deaths.

The daily reported Covid deaths are based on a positive test in last 28 days. So pretty damned obvious the higher the cases the higher daily deaths reported will be as so many people will have caught the disease prior to dying of whatever illness they had.

If covid say only gave you a sore finger and nothing else and every person in this country tested positive for Covid today we would then have about 60,000 covid deaths within the next month.

Time they actually cut the crap and told you how many people that died of covid today actually died because of it. Not something else and only reason they are covid is because they tested positive within 28 days. Damn if i had terminal cancer and a fortnight to live. Went into hospital to die and they did a covid test that was positive. Then when i die in 2 weeks i would be a daily covid death on the statistics.

Out of interest, what is, in your view, a covid death?

Taking your example, if I had COPD and had been told I had 12 months to live, caught covid and died of respiratory failure 2 months after diagnosis due to covid aggravating it, would that be a covid death or a COPD death? If I didn't have COPD then I would still be alive, but if I hadn't caught Covid I would still be alive.

 

[paul7388]

Out of interest, what is, in your view, a covid death?

Taking your example, if I had COPD and had been told I had 12 months to live, caught covid and died of respiratory failure 2 months after diagnosis due to covid aggravating it, would that be a covid death or a COPD death? If I didn't have COPD then I would still be alive, but if I hadn't caught Covid I would still be alive.

If someone has an illness and Covid has contributed to the death and decreased their lifetime then i would class it as a covid death.

If someone has asthma and catches bad covid and dies i would class that as a covid death. If i had COPD and was dying but was expected to live another year but caught Covid and died a week later again i would class that as a Covid death.

If i had COPD and had days too live and then tested positive for Covid and died days later as i was expected too. Then i would be a daily Covid death even tho the Covid made no difference. Same as if i have terminal cancer and have days left and go into hospital or care for last few days. I will get a Covid test and if it tests positive then even tho i died of cancer i would again be a Covid case.

And with the numbers i explained then obviously daily deaths are going to rocket. Yes it is killing some people and is a bad disease. But the figures and fear it is putting into some is now becoming a joke.

 

[Jono777]

Swings and roundabouts here

I think that some should be attributed to CV-19, others not so. Making the figures thus more realistic, problem is this would take too long and also a degree of common sense.

I think the point Paul is making is that in today's instances, a positive testing person who got run over by a bus or train would be put down as a covid death.

 

[colinsunderland]

If someone has an illness and Covid has contributed to the death and decreased their lifetime then i would class it as a covid death.

If someone has asthma and catches bad covid and dies i would class that as a covid death. If i had COPD and was dying but was expected to live another year but caught Covid and died a week later again i would class that as a Covid death.

If i had COPD and had days too live and then tested positive for Covid and died days later as i was expected too. Then i would be a daily Covid death even tho the Covid made no difference. Same as if i have terminal cancer and have days left and go into hospital or care for last few days. I will get a Covid test and if it tests positive then even tho i died of cancer i would again be a Covid case.

And with the numbers i explained then obviously daily deaths are going to rocket. Yes it is killing some people and is a bad disease. But the figures and fear it is putting into some is now becoming a joke.

Thats how I view it too, I do think they are stuck between a rock and a hard place though, and they came up with this way of classifying the deaths so that it is the same, countrywide, rather than relying on different interpretations of cause of death by different doctors.

I think the point Paul is making is that in today's instances, a positive testing person who got run over by a bus or train would be put down as a covid death.

Thats not true though, the guidance is

A COVID-19 death is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease (e.g. trauma).

 

[paul7388]

Thats how I view it too, I do think they are stuck between a rock and a hard place though, and they came up with this way of classifying the deaths so that it is the same, countrywide, rather than relying on different interpretations of cause of death by different doctors.

Don't get me wrong seeing a young healthy person dying from Covid is a nasty thing. I am in no way saying it is all junk and Covid is harmless. Yes it is killing people. But the figures at times do not make sense. People see this list of deaths and straight away think so people caught Covid and it has killed them . They do not look at circumstances etc. leading to the death count.

Flu will kill an average of 10,000 every winter mostly all vaccinated. Tho none last winter reported.

Covid has killed a lot of people. But the daily figures is now scaremongering. I know of a couple of people that are basically scared to go out. Others that freak out and clean everything hundreds of times a day. These people are seeing all the cases and are totally scared.

For a disease that has a very very slim chance of killing them now they are vaccinated.

Seeing a few young people die of Covid is bad. No worse than watching your best friend die of Leukemia at 18 and his brother kill himself 6 months later. Anyway that is a different story. But how often in news do we get told how many young people have died daily of illnesses.

And sorry many will have died and others will die of other diseases put on hold because of covid. And yeah i hear people saying that's not true Covid has not delayed treatment. Utter Bull.

My own sister has had cancer for quite a while now. Was treated but back. The delay in getting to hospital last year never helped as so hard to get to see doctors and get tests and after operation treatment was slower than normal.

Now it never went away. Spread and needs Urgent OP. Had no treatment for 9 weeks. Operation cancelled twice due to Covid. Meant to get it Tomorrow now cancelled to next week again. Personally be surprised if it does not kill her as it has been spreading. But yeah Covid has delayed it for her and many.

 

[Dinahnana]

I remember last year people who were saying that covid certificates were going to become a thing were conspiracy theorists and they also said vaccinations are going to be a regular thing. They don't seem like conspiracy theories much now since covid certs are a thing and the pharma companies are recommending booster shots.

The biggest conspiracy theory that could get you banned on social media was that covid came from a lab. Since then it appears very likely that is the case. I have lost all faith in the MSM as they seem to peddle lies.

 

[pinnit2014]

Don't get me wrong seeing a young healthy person dying from Covid is a nasty thing. I am in no way saying it is all junk and Covid is harmless. Yes it is killing people. But the figures at times do not make sense. People see this list of deaths and straight away think so people caught Covid and it has killed them . They do not look at circumstances etc. leading to the death count.

Flu will kill an average of 10,000 every winter mostly all vaccinated. Tho none last winter reported.

Covid has killed a lot of people. But the daily figures is now scaremongering. I know of a couple of people that are basically scared to go out. Others that freak out and clean everything hundreds of times a day. These people are seeing all the cases and are totally scared.

For a disease that has a very very slim chance of killing them now they are vaccinated.

Seeing a few young people die of Covid is bad. No worse than watching your best friend die of Leukemia at 18 and his brother kill himself 6 months later. Anyway that is a different story. But how often in news do we get told how many young people have died daily of illnesses.

And sorry many will have died and others will die of other diseases put on hold because of covid. And yeah i hear people saying that's not true Covid has not delayed treatment. Utter Bull.

My own sister has had cancer for quite a while now. Was treated but back. The delay in getting to hospital last year never helped as so hard to get to see doctors and get tests and after operation treatment was slower than normal.

Now it never went away. Spread and needs Urgent OP. Had no treatment for 9 weeks. Operation cancelled twice due to Covid. Meant to get it Tomorrow now cancelled to next week again. Personally be surprised if it does not kill her as it has been spreading. But yeah Covid has delayed it for her and many.

The GP practices have been a disgrace to be honest - they were bad pre-covid but it's just shone a light on how inept they are. Health Boards had to send out memo's etc to tell them to quit the video appointments (which is a joke given the below)and start seeing people they were/are that bad - still quite happy to take the practice payments mind you. Had a friend who rang up relatively recently (not at the peak) really concerned and the persons words were 'well, you know there is a pandemic': she then got confirmation to see consultant at hospital and...video appointment so she's still in the same position worrying herself to sleep: told her to go private, so yeah, lets all clap for the NHS again.

Global, unprecedented etc etc but surely that's was contingency planning is for? That seemingly went out the window and i genuinely get why a lot of people, in the coming months, are going to be beyond angry at an institution which they feel, IMO quite rightly, has failed them.

Use the term institution, not the docs and nurses.

 

[TheAddict]

Booked in the dentist to have my wisdom tooth looked at 6 weeks ago when it argued with the chocolate chip on a muffin, and lost. The earliest appointment they could give me was tomorrow. Was lucky then probably too since they said something about pausing further appointments around the same time due to an overload after coming out of lockdown.
Not life threatening neither totally relevant I know, but.. it be true.

 

[pinnit2014]

Booked in the dentist to have my wisdom tooth looked at 6 weeks ago when it argued with the chocolate chip on a muffin, and lost. The earliest appointment they could give me was tomorrow. Was lucky then probably too since they said something about pausing further appointments around the same time due to an overload after coming out of lockdown.
Not life threatening neither totally relevant I know, but.. it be true.

You'd also the messed up situation where the NHS dentists couldn't give aerosol treatments etc but if you forked out the cash the private dentists could.

Who'd have thought Covid hated the left so much

 

[electronictonic]

Warning from a Canadian doctor, D-dimer tests show 62% of his vaccinated patients have clots.

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[colinsunderland]

Booked in the dentist to have my wisdom tooth looked at 6 weeks ago when it argued with the chocolate chip on a muffin, and lost. The earliest appointment they could give me was tomorrow. Was lucky then probably too since they said something about pausing further appointments around the same time due to an overload after coming out of lockdown.
Not life threatening neither totally relevant I know, but.. it be true.

To be fair, I think that varies from dentist to dentist. I've had 2 appointments since the first lockdown ended and was seen in 4 days the first time, and same day the second (had bad toothache). Daughter needed a tooth out and had to be sedated, took 6 weeks from the initial appointment to having it done, which, if anything, is quicker than it usually takes, as it has to be referred to another practice for the sedation.
That said, I've also heard of people with different dentists in Sunderland having 2-3 month waits for an appointment.

 

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Interview from 2014.

 

[colinsunderland]

Interview from 2014.

Without watching it, what does it have to do with this pandemic, can you summarise it please?

 

[paul7388]

Without watching it, what does it have to do with this pandemic, can you summarise it please?

I will sum it up for you. Yeah I am bored at work.

Vaccines get created that change dna in peoples bodies so they can be controlled.

As people can not be forced to take the vaccines what is the solution. To create the diseases and panic that then comes so people demand vaccines and are desperate to get them.

Then every one goes gets the vaccines that will alter their DNA.

 

[colinsunderland]

I will sum it up for you. Yeah I am bored at work.

Vaccines get created that change dna in peoples bodies so they can be controlled.

As people can not be forced to take the vaccines what is the solution. To create the diseases and panic that then comes so people demand vaccines and are desperate to get them.

Then every one goes gets the vaccines that will alter their DNA.

Thanks
So nothing to do with this pandemic then? Or is he suggesting the current vaccines alter people's DNA to the extent they can be controlled?

 

[paul7388]

Thanks
So nothing to do with this pandemic then? Or is he suggesting the current vaccines alter people's DNA to the extent they can be controlled?

That is about it. This pandemic is man made to install fear and have everyone rushing to get the vaccine that will change their DNA and leave them open to be controlled in the future.

 

[Bunbu]

I remember last year people who were saying that covid certificates were going to become a thing were conspiracy theorists and they also said vaccinations are going to be a regular thing. They don't seem like conspiracy theories much now since covid certs are a thing and the pharma companies are recommending booster shots.

The biggest conspiracy theory that could get you banned on social media was that covid came from a lab. Since then it appears very likely that is the case. I have lost all faith in the MSM as they seem to peddle lies.

If we go back a year and read what "conspiracy theorists" claimed, we can observe that 90% of the time they cite current events. Even though they are shadowbanned, it is easy to find Covid passports, Covid-19 virus new variations, and so on.

Example: Robert W Malone, MD, inventor of mRNA vaccines and RNA as a drug, few days ago was shadowbanned from Google, LinkedIn, and youtube, yet his

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remains active.

Small part of interview that prompted big tech to erase him from the internet:

 

[pinnit2014]

Does it grant you superhuman powers?

I quite fancy going out and benching a few cars

 

[Kroffe]

Does it grant you superhuman powers?

I quite fancy going out and benching a few cars

I hear the Russian vaccine Sputnik actually turns you into a car.
Its kind of a superpower, but it does make day to day life a bit harder because most household items are designed to be used by humans, not cars.