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Frightening death rate for elderly, please take care of your parents and grandparents or yourself if you fall into that category.



I know it looks frightening and it is.

But if it was not for normal flu vaccinations that elderly receive then the same statistics would apply to a bad flu outbreak.

Most really elderly people are frail or have underlying conditions. Sooner a vaccination for this virus is found the better.
 
Well in those hospitals affected worst, doctors are already having to make decisions on who to treat and who to turn away. A lot of admissions are also in varying age ranges, so not solely those of advanced age.

Which also indicates that a few 'younger, healthier' patients could also self-isolate and save resources?
 
Well in those hospitals affected worst, doctors are already having to make decisions on who to treat and who to turn away. A lot of admissions are also in varying age ranges, so not solely those of advanced age.

Which also indicates that a few 'younger, healthier' patients could also self-isolate and save resources?
There are reports of visitors to hospitals pinching equipment and supplies to the point that they are locking anything away that is not in immediate use
 
Update.
have a bit of a cough and a bit warm.
out with a friend at my local wine bar now, the isolation became to much. Had to get out, cabin fever was setting in...
 

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Update.
have a bit of a cough and a bit warm.
out with a friend at my local wine bar now, the isolation became to much. Had to get out, cabin fever was setting in...
You'll never guess who's streaming behind you
 
Got a after hours bar, friend owns it.
And agree on the light front, but don’t pay for my beer so all is well

Oh the heaven I've been denied for all my life. I have faith things will get better in the future.
 
Think the hundreds of experts questioning the governments approach do have point, when you look
at the UK compared to almost all other countries we have actually done sod all to prevent the spread.
The decision to stop the sporting events was forced by the organisors, which must have been difficult
bearing in mind the financial costs involved.
I hear nothing about testing kits,the main advice cannot be carried out by the majority of the population
as hand gel is impossible to source in the high st (believe me I have tried),plenty on Amazon
@ £5.99 a bottle £70 postage (I would seize all the stocks)
There are no restrictions on shop opening hours or types of shops allowed to open, as far as I know
no travel restrictions either within this country or to abroad except those imposed by other countries
banning outsiders.
The critical care bed situation is dire, look at how many beds France and Germany have compared to us,
we are even having to resort to asking other countries if they have any spare ventilators they are not using.
Sorry to rant but its pathetic.
 
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Was at a small chapel funeral yesterday as everyone stayed home cuz they did not want to gather and spread germs....someone in the back coughed, we all turned around and gave them a dirty look.

I think passing gas in public is more acceptable than coughing nowadays.

TFFT!! I can start going out again...
 
Let's hope this Corona shit fades away otherwise it's going to be come the 'new Brexit' and we will be sick of hearing about it. Plus there's also the chance it could eventually overtake my Bonanza thread as the longest topic on here.
 
FYI if you use Tesco, all delivery slots up to next friday are booked, i managed to get one for friday morning.
This is in the nottingham area , dont know how it is elsewhere.
This is going get really shit
I know I panic bought water a couple of week ago but I’ve seen the error in my ways and realised how bloody stupid I was! I’ve got an elderly dad who’s got dementia and extremely stressed out because he’s seeing he’s gonna be in lock down also we normally do an online shop
For him but that’s a no go as you said tesco no slots so we went onto Asda and the same no slots till next week Morrison’s ditto Sainsbury’s ditto :( also in shops there are no medicines like basics paracetamol ibuprofen no toilet roll at all :( it’s scary and I feel horrible
That I was a part of it by
Selfishly buying so much water
 
Corona news from Sweden.. Seems "the plan" is to spread the virus to every1 so the survivors get immune?? :what: :eek:

So the 1000s (more zeros?) of dead people is ok? :axeman:

:lolup: Thats just madly crazy stupid if its true.
Not as stupid as it sounds, if all those who are not at risk are put together in a secure area to catch the virus, then released when they are no longer infectious,it would help boost herd immunity and would provide helpers
for the more vulnerable and man essential services.
 
Its on the news sadly (Expressen).

Now you forced me to read a newspaper I never read ;)
That is not what they are saying if you read a bit more. They need to slow it down so we have the means to take care of those who are really sick.
You can't believe every expert since they are many and unfortunately don't have the same opinions.
Just don't panic in the big city and please read some news from other sources too.
 
So many dramatic snow flakes in this world.

How does grinding everything to a halt and causing businesses to collapse jobs lost and sever depression sound better than a flu killing less people than a normal flu.

This government combined with the press and the general mass hysteria of the public will be the downfall of the country not this bleedin corona.

Grow a pair go about your normal life and when you catch it do as you do with normal flu.
 
So many dramatic snow flakes in this world.

How does grinding everything to a halt and causing businesses to collapse jobs lost and sever depression sound better than a flu killing less people than a normal flu.

This government combined with the press and the general mass hysteria of the public will be the downfall of the country not this bleedin corona.

Grow a pair go about your normal life and when you catch it do as you do with normal flu.
The “normal” flu has limited spread because of immunity and flu-jabs.
 
So many dramatic snow flakes in this world.

How does grinding everything to a halt and causing businesses to collapse jobs lost and sever depression sound better than a flu killing less people than a normal flu.

This government combined with the press and the general mass hysteria of the public will be the downfall of the country not this bleedin corona.

Grow a pair go about your normal life and when you catch it do as you do with normal flu.

Just cos you have built up immunity after canoodling with Bonanza every night.
 
So many dramatic snow flakes in this world.

How does grinding everything to a halt and causing businesses to collapse jobs lost and sever depression sound better than a flu killing less people than a normal flu.

This government combined with the press and the general mass hysteria of the public will be the downfall of the country not this bleedin corona.

Grow a pair go about your normal life and when you catch it do as you do with normal flu.
I can honestly say I dont know anybody who has died from normal flu in my circle of family and friends yet this is killing the elderly at an alarming rate it's a selfish comment purely down to you feeling aggrieved by upset of a routine
 
So many dramatic snow flakes in this world.

How does grinding everything to a halt and causing businesses to collapse jobs lost and sever depression sound better than a flu killing less people than a normal flu.

This government combined with the press and the general mass hysteria of the public will be the downfall of the country not this bleedin corona.

Grow a pair go about your normal life and when you catch it do as you do with normal flu.

Ok How old are you ??. I am 65, heart disease, diabetes and stress, rather more at risk
than you I think.For myself If I catch it and it turns nasty so be it, but I also have a wife who is 100% certain to die if she contracts it and its my responsibilitiy to do everything
that she doesnt so yes I am worried sick, not a bloody snowflake.
 
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I'm still waiting for the first online casino to say:

"We regret due to staff self-isolation we cannot process payments in the usual timely fashion therefore regrettably we've increased the pending period."

At least those fine fit mechanics and technicians are keeping the reels of Bonanza turning in the face of insufferable odds.
 
I'm still waiting for the first online casino to say:

"We regret due to staff self-isolation we cannot process payments in the usual timely fashion therefore regrettably we've increased the pending period."

At least those fine fit mechanics and technicians are keeping the reels of Bonanza turning in the face of insufferable odds.

This is the problem I feel which is an additional but also totally unnecessary problem.

There will sadly be so many individuals, companies, operators etc etc in general who wrongly take advantage of this awful Covid situation and instead of helping where possible, taking what they can for their own benefits/gains.

Sad but true of today's human nature :(
 
You can see it on Amazon,that company has lost my respect allowing disgusting price hikes on items
in short supply, usually disguised as postage.they should drop all those sellers immediately.
Some items have a 2000% price hike.
Just hope folks remember all the companies and individuals who are taking advantage of this situation.
Sure that some casinos will try it on, bear mind that its quite possible that high st bookies may be ordered
to close and they will be trying to compensate for the shortfall in revenue.
 
So the UK's idea is herd mentality as has been mentioned.

Does anybody know if we are the only nation to do this? In a way its kind of hedging your bets for the benefit of the human race - if you consider the population as a whole somebody had to be the guniea pigs.

One way of tackling it has to be better than another. Selfishly i hope its our way. I hear rumours of second strains and that this could be a better solution.

One thing for sure is this is different. Never in my life have i experienced something like this. Having kids it worries me a little and i am not a natural worrier.

I also heard a whisper of some antibiotics which were recommended but the supply is too short so it was not considered. Anybody know of any natural tips for combating the virus or general immune system wellbeing? Vit A etc

Edit: Thinking on....my understanding is that its currently killing the elderly or people with underlying health issues. f there is, god forbid, a second strain that is much worse then the herd tactic may be the best option as already the immunity would have been built, hopefully.
 
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I strongly believe that it is a man made virus deliberately orchestrated to creat panic and fear. Then they will come along and offer a solution in the form of vaccine. Totally complicit are the main organisations across the World. They have been banging on for a long time to scare folk into having vaccines which has not had the take up rate that they wished for.
What way to not only get folk to take vaccines but for to get them to demand they are given them?
And guess what? They said about a month ago that they where close to developing a vaccine for this virus. What is the chances of that so quickly?
I believe they have the vaccine already. I bet that they are studying the fallout of events and how folk behave.

It smacks of George Orwell 2020

There. I said it
 
Everyone else: this weekend, let's hoarde supplies and isolate ourselves

Dio's house: f it, let's paint ourselves and throw a glow party :D

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on another note, kids are out of school 3 weeks and major events cancelled and the mountains for skiing.

Also, sneezing like a lunatic but it's also allergy season; those tall milk weedy things filling the marsh out back blowing so much looks like it's snowing in the yard
 
I strongly believe that it is a man made virus deliberately orchestrated to creat panic and fear. Then they will come along and offer a solution in the form of vaccine. Totally complicit are the main organisations across the World. They have been banging on for a long time to scare folk into having vaccines which has not had the take up rate that they wished for.
What way to not only get folk to take vaccines but for to get them to demand they are given them?
And guess what? They said about a month ago that they where close to developing a vaccine for this virus. What is the chances of that so quickly?
I believe they have the vaccine already. I bet that they are studying the fallout of events and how folk behave.

It smacks of George Orwell 2020

There. I said it

Not really sure about your theory.

You see, viruses mutate much faster than we humans. It was very clear when SARS happened, that there will be more coming, it was just not clear when and how. We had MERS in 2012, so about 9 years from SARS, no COVID-19 about 8 years later. Similar periods to make the successful transmission between animals and humans.

Coronaviruses are zoonotic viruses and there are virtually hundreds of strands. We simply will not know when the next will mutate sufficiently to make the jump from bats/other animals to humans.

The "funny" or maybe better said scary part is that each of three from the last two decades, SARS, MERS and COVID-19, is using a slightly different protein to lock onto human cells. And it took them only a few years to adapt.

Nature as its best and most cruel. Well, nature was never kind as the strongest and fittest are chosen to survive other species.
 
You can see it on Amazon,that company has lost my respect allowing disgusting price hikes on items
in short supply, usually disguised as postage.they should drop all those sellers immediately.
Some items have a 2000% price hike.
Just hope folks remember all the companies and individuals who are taking advantage of this situation.
Sure that some casinos will try it on, bear mind that its quite possible that high st bookies may be ordered
to close and they will be trying to compensate for the shortfall in revenue.
Amazon are among the worst scalpers out there. Wonderful place when things are rosy, but just watch them increase item prices when something is low in print/ stock, it's like being transported to Black Market 'R' Us.

And yet you'll see all the CEOs of these companies virtue-signal about how they've stopped sellers exploiting buyers (face masks, hand sanitizers ec)....... yet go on Amazon or other retailers they're just as bad!

£5.99 for hand-gel? F**k off!
 
Amazon are among the worst scalpers out there. Wonderful place when things are rosy, but just watch them increase item prices when something is low in print/ stock, it's like being transported to Black Market 'R' Us.

And yet you'll see all the CEOs of these companies virtue-signal about how they've stopped sellers exploiting buyers (face masks, hand sanitizers ec)....... yet go on Amazon or other retailers they're just as bad!

£5.99 for hand-gel? F**k off!


I just had "ignorant" people on facebook about this and I said the same thing, These big companies are still and letting hikes in prices go on.
 
I strongly believe that it is a man made virus deliberately orchestrated to creat panic and fear. Then they will come along and offer a solution in the form of vaccine. Totally complicit are the main organisations across the World. They have been banging on for a long time to scare folk into having vaccines which has not had the take up rate that they wished for.
What way to not only get folk to take vaccines but for to get them to demand they are given them?
And guess what? They said about a month ago that they where close to developing a vaccine for this virus. What is the chances of that so quickly?
I believe they have the vaccine already. I bet that they are studying the fallout of events and how folk behave.

It smacks of George Orwell 2020

There. I said it

Or it is planned eugenics, Coronavirus patented by BIll Gates funded
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And prediected in a book in 2008

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From the video game The Divison, notice the freemason number in the top right 33

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From the Resident Evil game as you know Racoon City is where it takes places, which is an anagram of Corona?

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Worth noting that no matter how 'advanced' a country is, one wouldn't want to catch Corona in any sort of concentrated areas, because mortality rates will just spike.

Say like 5.8% in Wuhan compared to 0.7% elsewhere. Lombardy in Italy's also clearly afflicted and not where one would ever want to contract it either.

So if things get bad all at once in London I wouldn't much fancy my chances. Probably why Government's hoping we all contract it simultaneously and magically immunize ourselves to not be a burden
 

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