Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[mina1929]

This is a vid from the sun's youtube channel, not sure what to make of it:




Edit: poor lady, but I don't understand why she couldn't just give them a list.

If she is germ-phobic she should stay at home, sadly a nutter I think lol

 

[mina1929]

Due to boredom and wanting to keep abreast of the alternative theories surrounding this virus, I ventured onto mr icke's forum where there is a mega thread on this topic. I just looked at the last few pages for the latest posts. [ as it runs for over 300 pages ]

A post that caught my attention relates to Dr Fauci predicting in Jan 2017 that there would be a surprise outbreak of an infection in this administration's term of office. I couldn't find a clip without the deep state reference. Not saying this is proof of a conspiracy but disappointing that the major governments haven't been better prepared with masks, hand sanitisers etc..if such a high profile person such as Fauci [director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases ] was certain it would occur.




This other video is slightly more concerning to me, people in hazmat suits, all masked up etc.. [better equipped than some of the nurses & docs, it looks to me] putting letters through resident's doors to say one of their neighbours? has died of the virus, when the person filming is convinced they just saw the person alive with the police taking him to the hospital, make of it what you will as it's difficult to make out what the officials are saying:




Edit: These vids are posted simply because I found them of interest, I'm not trying to upset anyone or belittle this virus, something that can kill many people especially the vulnerable.

It is very interesting, too bad the video got cut short though.

 

[mack341]

I feel sorry for the germ phobic lady, obviously she's not well and that's how she copes but the care worker man with her could've just worked from a list, save all that stress.

It was a shame the other clip stopped abruptly, be good if there was some sort of Vlog to follow it up, am surprised youtube haven't pulled it, one of the good things about mobile phones is the ability for the public to film something as it happens.

 

[dionysus]

one of the good things about mobile phones is the ability for the public to film something as it happens.

my drunken shenanigans and friends having phone in hand disagrees

 

[goatwack]

I feel sorry for the germ phobic lady, obviously she's not well and that's how she copes but the care worker man with her could've just worked from a list, save all that stress.

It was annoying that clip stopping abruptly, be good if there was some sort of Vlog to follow it up, surprised youtube haven't pulled it, one of the good things about mobile phones is the ability for the public to film something as it happens.

Clearly mentally-ill and her carer seemed pretty sheepish about it. At the same time, with about two other customers in there at the same time it's not that big a deal is it really.

More concerning is the guy recording it and essentially badgering her throughout, then sharing it for the world to see and a rag like The Sun to make a non-story out of.

Old Asterix at 1:27 seemed particularly perplexed

 

[mack341]

I don't think she could even get down some of the aisles, that man was annoying, following and filming her up close, questioning the carer loudly in public when it's none of his business, and asking old asterix whether he thought she was a nutter. I recognise the store though due to my logo, good old morrisons

 

[dionysus]

Old Asterix at 1:27 seemed particularly perplexed

fyi in case anyone missed it this week

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[sufferinsilence]

Due to boredom and wanting to keep abreast of the alternative theories surrounding this virus, I ventured onto mr icke's forum where there is a mega thread on this topic. I just looked at the last few pages for the latest posts. [ as it runs for over 300 pages ]

A post that caught my attention relates to Dr Fauci predicting in Jan 2017 that there would be a surprise outbreak of an infection in this administration's term of office. I couldn't find a clip without the deep state reference. Not saying this is proof of a conspiracy but disappointing that the major governments haven't been better prepared with masks, hand sanitisers etc..if such a high profile person as Fauci [director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases ] was certain it would occur.




This other video is slightly more concerning to me, people in hazmat suits, all masked up etc.. [better equipped than some of the nurses & docs, it looks to me] putting letters through resident's doors to say one of their neighbours? has died of the virus, when the person filming is convinced they just saw the person alive with the police taking him to the hospital, make of it what you will as it's difficult to hear what the officials are saying:




Edit: These vids are posted simply because I found them of interest, I'm not trying to upset anyone or belittle this virus, something that can kill many people especially the vulnerable.

One of the replies on the second vid:

"Just had another thought. I wonder if they are trying to close down your building and install 5g. At this point, nothing would surprise me. "

Say what now?

 

[Steviedoo]

Just browsed some of the posts quickly and I can understand some conspiracy theorists because of what we have seen in other situations throughout history.

You all have known for years I work in a management role in a large and well known hospital. I deal with this daily. I read all the reports from top health officials. I have meetings with CEO's of hospitals. I work around covid 19 patients. Daily.

This is not just some flu. We are almost at capacity for patients on ventilators and are awaiting help from our premier. This is very dangerous, this is very contagious and this is very serious. I have worked at a hospital for almost 20 years now and I have never seen anything like this before. As a matter of fact life long doctors and surgeons at my hospital have not seen anything like this before. Alot of these doctors and nurses were around when H1N1 and sars happened.

When ICU doctors and nurses tell you they are worried. They deal with and see everything possible. When they are worried, you should be too.

Seniors are most vulnerable..to death. But young people have died, young people are fighting for their life and young people will have permanent damage.

Will you guys listen to someone who is on the front lines? Will you stop looking and searching for articles that will comfort you? I have zero reason to post here during this aside from maybe some of you skeptics will stop and listen. Stay at home and stay away from people. The people who dont think this is dangerous are the ones who are most dangerous right now. You will be the spreaders. Will it take someone close to you to die for you to change?

In regards to the stats. They are massively skewed. Countries are overwhelmed. We are overwhelmed. People who have shown mild symptoms earlier on, were sent home and told to self quarantine without being tested and to rest and if symptoms worsen drastically then return. Nothing else was done. I suspect the cases may be double everything that you read. Today we read a report directly from another hospital in another country stating doctors were choosing who lives and dies.

Do you guys think WHO and CDC stand there with a piece of paper and check mark each death and each case. You guys would be blown away at how much is missed and isnt tracked. Why because doctors and nurses are too tired to count. Too over whelmed. Too much going on so fast. This isnt a movie. One patient to the next for hours and days on end.



For the people who want to take this serious here is some info below you all need to know about staying clean.

If you go to the grocery store which is a cess pool for germs, have hand cleaner with you. Think about the thousands of people going in and out daily. People picking up items and putting them back etc.

If you have hand cleaner in your pocket and reach in there to use it and have the virus on your hands, you just wiped it in your pocket so next time you go there, you may get it back on your hand.

Get your groceries. Do not touch yourself. When you get back to your car, use your cleaner and then get in. When you get home, remove your clothing and put it directly into the washing machine. Stay away from grocery stores as much as possible. Dont hoard but stock up so you dont have to return often.

When you pump gas...wash your hands before getting back into your car touching the steering wheel and shift.

Keep your hands off your face. Wash your hands. Wash your clothes. Stay away from people.

Do you think it's overkill to walk in your house and instantly wash your clothes? From what I see on the front lines, not even military action is overkill at this point.

Do your part people. Stay clean and stay safe. The virus doesnt care if you are too cool or think you are too intelligent for it.

When I saw that picture of President Trump standing in a room shoulder to shoulder with 20 people. I want to yell. Yes, they have most likely all been tested. But that is not the point. You are the leader of a country. You should be leading by example and if people see a president keeping his distance, they will follow. Instead, people see this and think all is good and they can do it too. Wrong.



I will try and post when I have new info when I can. We are overwhelmed right now, so time is tough to find. They are talking about putting me at the head of the test center they are opening up this week. So I may not be around to post updates but if I have time, I will try.

I am on my way back to the hospital in 45 minutes to deal with more and to help people. Will you all do your part and listen please? You may not be able to directly help with treatment but you can all help us with our anxiety by listening to the guidelines and stop spreading it. Dont panic, just be smart and do your part and LISTEN. This is not some sort of conspiracy.

Again, thank you lockinlove For this post and for your service.
I hope you are safe. and will remain safe.

 

[Kroffe]

One of the replies on the second vid:

"Just had another thought. I wonder if they are trying to close down your building and install 5g. At this point, nothing would surprise me. "

Say what now?

Whats weird about that?
Obviously if the tenants have grown resilient towards the 4g mindrayz, you have to upgrade to 5g.
Scary thing about 5g is that tinfoil does not protect against it.
You need lead-helmets.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Whats weird about that?
Obviously if the tenants have grown resilient towards the 4g mindrayz, you have to upgrade to 5g.
Scary thing about 5g is that tinfoil does not protect against it.
You need lead-helmets.

I'd like to have 5G for faster mobile internet.

 

[Kroffe]

I'd like to have 5G for faster mobile internet.

Better wear this then.

 

[Kroffe]

Its actually quite stylish.
Kind of looks like the helmet magnet-man is wearing in the movies.
You know, the guy whos always fighting with knuckleknives-man.

 

[mina1929]

My friend's Hello Fresh box got stolen from her front door step last night

Zombies everywhere

 

[mack341]

One of the replies on the second vid:

"Just had another thought. I wonder if they are trying to close down your building and install 5g. At this point, nothing would surprise me. "

Say what now?

I know I started to read the comments to see if there might be an update to the story, but they were even too barmy/conspiratorial for me

 

[slotplayer]

Trump is not the only politician who is mentioned here. A lot of posts that mentioned UK PM , and a few of other politicians too. Most of them are criticism about them.
And any other forums that has a thread about Covid-19, a lot of politicians-especially president, PM are criticized too.

Trump is the head of one of the biggest country in the world. It is very normal that his name is mentioned both in a good way and a bad way when there is world wide crisis.
I'm just wondering what kind of USA you want to build with Trump? The country under dictatorship where people cannot say anything bad about the president?

I won't get in to all that about the criticism, it will just set everyone off.

My post wasn't really in response to Lock's post, but more to ShadyFei's lecture inferring Trump was responsible for the Arizona couple taking chloroquine phosphate. That was more than a criticism.

I should have made that clear.

 

[paul7388]

This is a vid from the sun's youtube channel, not sure what to make of it:




Edit: poor lady, but I don't understand why she couldn't just give them a list.

Don't want to burst her bubble but think she is just an attention seeking nutter.

But watching that makes me feel sorry for my wee hamster when i put it in it's ball.

 

[ShadyFei]

My post wasn't really in response to Lock's post, but more to ShadyFei's lecture inferring Trump was responsible for the Arizona couple taking chloroquine phosphate. That was more than a criticism.

I should have made that clear.

*It was a one sentence example without even naming “Trump” within a very long post, but that is what you zoned in on. Why do you have a compulsion to defend this man no matter how slight or deserved the criticism? He is not synonymous with conservative values. The two can be separated.*

Anyways, I didn't infer. I paraphrased exactly what the surviving woman said. She was interviewed by NBC news from her hospital bed in the ICU (see below). The sole reason she granted the interview was to caution people so no one else dies.

She may have saved lives too because according to the New York Times, prices for the fish-tank additive have skyrocketed on eBay since that White House press briefing on March 20th.

———​

NBC: Were you guys concerned about the Coronavirus?​

​

AZ Woman in ICU: "Yes, very. We were afraid of getting sick."​

​

NBC: Did you see the President's press conference? Where did you hear about--​

​

AZ woman: "Yeah. Yeah, we saw his press conference. It was on a lot, actually."​

​

NBC: And then did you seek out Chloroquine?​

​

AZ Woman: "I had it in the house because I used to have koi fish. I just saw it sitting on the back shelf and said, ‘Hey, isn’t that that stuff they’re talking about on TV?’”​

​

NBC: Did you at any point hear that the FDA had not approved of it for coronavirus purposes or--?​

​

AZ Woman: "Yeah. But you know they kept saying that it was approved for other things...Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure."​

​

NBC: What would be your message to the American public?​

​

AZ Woman: "Oh my God. Don't take anything. Don't believe anything. Don’t believe anything that the President says & his people 'cause they don't know what they're talking about. Call your doctor."​

———​

​

Keep in mind this couple were Trump supporters and they believed and trusted in him completely. (Sound familiar?) You can't deny that if Trump hadn't talked up Chloroquine on live TV as a tremendous, incredible miracle drug, this woman's husband would still be alive.

Of course, one could argue that these people should take personal responsibility, no one told them to ingest fish tank cleaner. But what about leadership and government responsibility? He is the leader of a powerful nation - his words have a long reach and carry a lot of weight. No doubt, Trump knows this. I don’t think he’s a murderer but he isn’t completely blameless either.

"With great power comes great responsibility irresponsibility."
- There, fixed it for Trump.​

Done. No more Trump in this thread from me.

 

[mina1929]

Does anybody have a spare an hour and a half?

I'm sure I watched this movie in 2011 but since at the moment, everyone is talking about it, decided to watch it once again.
The movie is about a similar situation in the world as now; the US, China, bat virus, cough, vaccine, isolation etc.

You made me watch it now

My day off and was bored but it was a good movie

 

[mina1929]

Nobody wants to talk about Scott Morrison?

 

[paul7388]

Nobody wants to talk about Scott Morrison?

I will talk to you about him if you want. Firstly who is he tho.

 

[ShadyFei]

Nobody wants to talk about Scott Morrison?

I went to school with a guy named Scott Morrison. Didn’t know him well but he excelled in gym class and drinking. I’ll tell you whatever you want to know!

 

[mina1929]

I will talk to you about him if you want. Firstly who is he tho.

I have no idea

 

[mina1929]

I will talk to you about him if you want. Firstly who is he tho.

After a lot of research I have found a pic of him.

He is Australia's Prime Minister apparently

 

[goatwack]

Bit boring ain't he. Let's talk about Tommy Robinson instead!

Or Sugar Ray Robinson

 

[slotplayer]

*It was a one sentence example without even naming “Trump” within a very long post, but that is what you zoned in on. Why do you have a compulsion to defend this man no matter how slight or deserved the criticism? He is not synonymous with conservative values. The two can be separated.*

Anyways, I didn't infer. I paraphrased exactly what the surviving woman said. She was interviewed by NBC news from her hospital bed in the ICU (see below). The sole reason she granted the interview was to caution people so no one else dies.

She may have saved lives too because according to the New York Times, prices for the fish-tank additive have skyrocketed on eBay since that White House press briefing on March 20th.

———​

NBC: Were you guys concerned about the Coronavirus?​

​

AZ Woman in ICU: "Yes, very. We were afraid of getting sick."​

​

NBC: Did you see the President's press conference? Where did you hear about--​

​

AZ woman: "Yeah. Yeah, we saw his press conference. It was on a lot, actually."​

​

NBC: And then did you seek out Chloroquine?​

​

AZ Woman: "I had it in the house because I used to have koi fish. I just saw it sitting on the back shelf and said, ‘Hey, isn’t that that stuff they’re talking about on TV?’”​

​

NBC: Did you at any point hear that the FDA had not approved of it for coronavirus purposes or--?​

​

AZ Woman: "Yeah. But you know they kept saying that it was approved for other things...Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure."​

​

NBC: What would be your message to the American public?​

​

AZ Woman: "Oh my God. Don't take anything. Don't believe anything. Don’t believe anything that the President says & his people 'cause they don't know what they're talking about. Call your doctor."​

———​

​

Keep in mind this couple were Trump supporters and they believed and trusted in him completely. (Sound familiar?) You can't deny that if Trump hadn't talked up Chloroquine on live TV as a tremendous, incredible miracle drug, this woman's husband would still be alive.

Of course, one could argue that these people should take personal responsibility, no one told them to ingest fish tank cleaner. But what about leadership and government responsibility? He is the leader of a powerful nation - his words have a long reach and carry a lot of weight. No doubt, Trump knows this. I don’t think he’s a murderer but he isn’t completely blameless either.

"With great power comes great responsibility irresponsibility."
- There, fixed it for Trump.​

Done. No more Trump in this thread from me.

I saw her interview. I saw the press conferences. But again look at your last quote, just can't resist and I'm the one with the compulsion.

 

[Kroffe]

Bit boring ain't he. Let's talk about Tommy Robinson instead!

Or Sugar Ray Robinson

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No no, lets talk about Robinson Crusoe and how he may have been Jesus.

Obviously the Robinson Crusoe version of Jesus is after he spent a couple decades turning water into wine.
There are so many questions.
Like why did he stay on the island if he could walk on water?
Why did he grant Keanu Reeves time-traveling powers?

 

[dionysus]

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[geordiecolin]

I'll just dump this here for all those who want real unadulterated updated facts on the virus. It is updated daily

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[paul7388]

No no, lets talk about Robinson Crusoe and how he may have been Jesus.
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Obviously the Robinson Crusoe version of Jesus is after he spent a couple decades turning water into wine.
There are so many questions.
Like why did he stay on the island if he could walk on water?
Why did he grant Keanu Reeves time-traveling powers?

And main question is.... How could he have been Jesus when Jesus probably never existed.

 

[dionysus]

And main question is.... How could he have been Jesus when Jesus probably never existed.

Jesus almost certainly existed; nearly every historian agrees on this

 

[paul7388]

Jesus almost certainly existed; nearly every historian agrees on this

Yeah true the 3 wise men told me that.

 

[Kroffe]

Yeah true the 3 wise men told me that.

If they were so wise, why did they follow a star instead of just using the gps in their Tesla.
So many questions.

 

[geordiecolin]

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I have never seen any claims that it could cure it?

 

[paul7388]

Jesus almost certainly existed; nearly every historian agrees on this

Mind you i do believe the story where he fed thousands with a few bits of bread and fish.

I can imagine it. Jesus walks in the heat for days with this fish that would be stinking and bread that would have been solid.

He starts throwing it into the crowd who quickly throw it to someone else.

He then goes anyone still hungry and get's a mass no thanks shouted back.

 

[dionysus]

I have never seen any claims that it could cure it?

Hell, I've seen everything floating around online up to and including gargling vinegar

 

[dionysus]

Mind you i do believe the story where he fed thousands with a few bits of bread and fish.

I can imagine it. Jesus walks in the heat for days with this fish that would be stinking and bread that would have been solid.

He starts throwing it into the crowd who quickly throw it to someone else.

He then goes anyone still hungry and get's a mass no thanks shouted back.

Never said historians believed he was a son of God or the mythology that surrounds them; just that as a man, there was an actual Jesus, son of Joseph and Mary.

re -
Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that

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[geordiecolin]

Hell, I've seen everything floating around online up to and including gargling vinegar

I posted a while ago that it is important to build up the immunity as much as possible and vitamin C is a very important part of achieving that. I've upped my intake of fresh fruit and veg massively. It also stands to reason that those being treated for the virus will need to maintain their intake of Vit C in order to help boost their immunity alongside medical intervention.
So for me that article is a bit pointless

 

[paul7388]

Never said historians believed he was a son of God or the mythology that surrounds them; just that as a man, there was an actual Jesus, son of Joseph and Mary.

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Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that

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And you still get people today that believe they are also the son of god.

Probably some pain in the arse in olden days. He visited the stable and they went oh Jesus you again.

And it stuck and through time like a chinese whisper it turned into the stories we are told today.

 

[irish-ranger]

Never said historians believed he was a son of God or the mythology that surrounds them; just that as a man, there was an actual Jesus, son of Joseph and Mary.

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Here’s a question if Mary was a virgin how the fuck Jesus come about?

 

[dionysus]

Here’s a question if Mary was a virgin how the fuck Jesus come about?

I don't imagine she actually was
Mythology and history are entirely different.

 

[irish-ranger]

I don't imagine she actually was
Mythology and history are entirely different.

Right thanks for that now can u tell me why my withdrawal from videoslots is taking an age? Lol

 

[paul7388]

Here’s a question if Mary was a virgin how the fuck Jesus come about?

The lord works in mysterious ways.

 

[dionysus]

Right thanks for that now can u tell me why my withdrawal from videoslots is taking an age? Lol

divine intervention?

 

[irish-ranger]

divine intervention?

Remote working is the issue I suspect

 

[ternur]

So cabin fever is finally settling in? Now were talking religion?!

The dark lord works in mysterious ways.

 

[paul7388]

So cabin fever is finally settling in? Now were talking religion?!

I never started it it was that damned bear again.

 

[irish-ranger]

I don't imagine she actually was
Mythology and history are entirely different.

Mary??

 

[dionysus]

I never started it it was that damned bear again.

we know what religion he subscribes to

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(oddly, I've actually read it lol)

 

[dionysus]

Mary??

funny; but you know I cant let it slide, sorry