Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[mack341]

Not really. Most of what you see is based on unproven claims at the start of all this. It's untested and theres a massive divide of opinion on if it works or not. We now have a variety of approved vaccinations round the world, with 3 in the UK, and looking like that will be 4 in the next week or two.
You've seen the backlash against the vaccination from some people, can you imagine the Daily Mail headlines, and dealer's posts in here , if the government decided to start using an untested solution for it that is used for treating headlice

Dr Andrew Hill from liverpool university has done a study, regardless of vaccines we need treatments as not everybody can have a vaccine, it's generic and costs between 1 and 2 dollars for a course of treatment.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Dr Andrew Hill from liverpool university has done a study, regardless of vaccines we need treatments as not everybody can have a vaccine, it's generic and costs between 1 and 2 dollars for a course of treatment.

Interestingly...for me anyway.....that on the slide showing the trials worldwide there are none listed for the UK.

 

[Casinomentor]

Damn covid-19!!! I must delay all my business Plans!!

 

[Playford7]

 

[The Dude]

I've had about six of those already. One cost me £195 right before Christmas.

 

[Slottery]

I've had about six of those already. One cost me £195 right before Christmas.

Have done 7 so far, all paid by government who for some reason want test me, nice amount spent to these if thinking that i'm all the time isolated at home, only travelling as an exception and after that they always want me tested, dunno what difference it would make if i'm isolated at home with positive or negative covid test but let's keep taking them often as they want, two weeks to next one i guess

Once got great service when two astronaut looking guys came home to take it. For some things they do have never-ending budget.

 

[Kroffe]

Came across this.
Its about people that have lasting issues after recovering from covid.

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[Playford7]

Alright all.

won’t make a massive issue with this but I’m sorry.

I massively underestimated Covid, I played it down a lot and offended people, for that Iam sorry.

I speak my mind a lot and say how I feel all the time, but on the other hand when I’m wrong I’m also big enough and daft enough to again hold my hands up and say i was wrong.

my mate at work who I shared my apartment with last week isn’t well at all with Covid.

I had to be tested and have to isolate ten days, thankfully I’m negative (corona cooking keeps me immune)

joking aside 3 of my work mates are in ICU with Covid and our engineers are dropping like flies (the directors words not mine)

under play this virus at your peril seriously guys, you know me I won’t talk shit and certainly won’t back down to any man.

but I’m v wrong about this.

im starting to get a terrible cough and my chest feels tight, this is after testing negative...
I’ll not be seeing my daughter for over 10 days and won’t be going anywhere.

karma a lot will say, and guess what.. your 100% right.

ben

 

[cncas2123]

Alright all.

won’t make a massive issue with this but I’m sorry.

I massively underestimated Covid, I played it down a lot and offended people, for that Iam sorry.

I speak my mind a lot and say how I feel all the time, but on the other hand when I’m wrong I’m also big enough and daft enough to again hold my hands up and say i was wrong.

my mate at work who I shared my apartment with last week isn’t well at all with Covid.

I had to be tested and have to isolate ten days, thankfully I’m negative (corona cooking keeps me immune)

joking aside 3 of my work mates are in ICU with Covid and our engineers are dropping like flies (the directors words not mine)

under play this virus at your peril seriously guys, you know me I won’t talk shit and certainly won’t back down to any man.

but I’m v wrong about this.

im starting to get a terrible cough and my chest feels tight, this is after testing negative...
I’ll not be seeing my daughter for over 10 days and won’t be going anywhere.

karma a lot will say, and guess what.. your 100% right.

ben

Genuinely sorry to hear this, I hope you will avoid getting Covid and also I hope its only stressing about covid thats tightening your chest.
If it does develop into covid hopefully you will get it mild, have you got family around you to help you out while you are isolating?

 

[Steviedoo]

Alright all.

won’t make a massive issue with this but I’m sorry.

I massively underestimated Covid, I played it down a lot and offended people, for that Iam sorry.

I speak my mind a lot and say how I feel all the time, but on the other hand when I’m wrong I’m also big enough and daft enough to again hold my hands up and say i was wrong.

my mate at work who I shared my apartment with last week isn’t well at all with Covid.

I had to be tested and have to isolate ten days, thankfully I’m negative (corona cooking keeps me immune)

joking aside 3 of my work mates are in ICU with Covid and our engineers are dropping like flies (the directors words not mine)

under play this virus at your peril seriously guys, you know me I won’t talk shit and certainly won’t back down to any man.

but I’m v wrong about this.

im starting to get a terrible cough and my chest feels tight, this is after testing negative...
I’ll not be seeing my daughter for over 10 days and won’t be going anywhere.

karma a lot will say, and guess what.. your 100% right.

ben

hey
i hope you’re gonna be ok.
take care. Keep us posted.

 

[colinsunderland]

Takes a big man to say he was wrong, hope you just have a cold Ben.

 

[Playford7]

Genuinely sorry to hear this, I hope you will avoid getting Covid and also I hope its only stressing about covid thats tightening your chest.
If it does develop into covid hopefully you will get it mild, have you got family around you to help you out while you are isolating?

I got a negative result today.

but as said my mate who I worked with last week is positive and can’t even talk he’s that poorly.

I’m ok, not 100% and cough and chest are coming and going.

and only me and sox, got to isolate for ten days, so lots of Netflix and winter gardening.

thankyou for asking after me and hope your well.

ben

 

[Playford7]

hey
i hope you’re gonna be ok.
take care. Keep us posted.

Will do and cheers for asking, hope your good.

Ben

 

[cncas2123]

I got a negative result today.

but as said my mate who I worked with last week is positive and can’t even talk he’s that poorly.

I’m ok, not 100% and cough and chest are coming and going.

and only me and sox, got to isolate for ten days, so lots of Netflix and winter gardening.

thankyou for asking after me and hope your well.

ben

Have you people that can get the essentials for you while you isolate, and who can keep an eye on you just in case it does develop? Might be worthwhile getting someone to check in with you every few hours to make sure you are ok - I know you tested negative but even the best tests are only about 92% accurate as far as I know.
With the best will in the world, don't know if Sox will be able to nurse you if you do get ill.... as much as you would want him to.

 

[Playford7]

Have you people that can get the essentials for you while you isolate, and who can keep an eye on you just in case it does develop? Might be worthwhile getting someone to check in with you every few hours to make sure you are ok - I know you tested negative but even the best tests are only about 92% accurate as far as I know.
With the best will in the world, don't know if Sox will be able to nurse you if you do get ill.... as much as you would want him to.

My mum lives about ten mins away mate but don’t want her near me just incase, I don’t have any other family

I’ve got loads of food etc so will just ride it out.

got a few beers left also, and smoking is kept to a utter minimum, when this passes I’ll be trying my best to quit.

me and sox will just pretend we are in a zombie apocalypse and cabin up.

 

[cncas2123]

My mum lives about ten mins away mate but don’t want her near me just incase, I don’t have any other family

I’ve got loads of food etc so will just ride it out.

got a few beers left also, and smoking is kept to a utter minimum, when this passes I’ll be trying my best to quit.

me and sox will just pretend we are in a zombie apocalypse and cabin up.

I am sure if you ask nicely @ESCJAMIE would volunteer to wipe your brow if needs be.....
Hope it wont come to that, best wishes for a speedy recovery and a boring 10 days for you with no drama.

 

[Borgie]

I got a negative result today.

but as said my mate who I worked with last week is positive and can’t even talk he’s that poorly.

I’m ok, not 100% and cough and chest are coming and going.

and only me and sox, got to isolate for ten days, so lots of Netflix and winter gardening.

thankyou for asking after me and hope your well.

ben

Get well soon Ben. We dont always agree but i genuinely hope you recover v quickly. Hopefully covid stays away

 

[sufferinsilence]

Hope you feel better soon Ben, and hope your workmates will be ok too.

 

[Playford7]

Get well soon Ben. We dont always agree but i genuinely hope you recover v quickly. Hopefully covid stays away

Many thanks, and hope your well yourself.

ben

 

[Playford7]

Hope you feel better soon Ben, and hope your workmates will be ok too.

Cheers mate.

Ben

 

[colinsunderland]

My mum lives about ten mins away mate but don’t want her near me just incase, I don’t have any other family

I’ve got loads of food etc so will just ride it out.

got a few beers left also, and smoking is kept to a utter minimum, when this passes I’ll be trying my best to quit.

me and sox will just pretend we are in a zombie apocalypse and cabin up.

If you run out of stuff and can't get a delivery slot or anything just give me a shout. Obviously coming to Boro is a bit like being an extra on a Mad Max movie, and I'll have to swap my alloys for steel wheels so I don't drive home on bricks, but I'll brave it if needed

As an aside (and not aimed at you), this is why I kick off so much with people who post 'facts' showing that it only affects over 80's etc. It doesn't, it affects everyone. It might not kill many younger people, but it does affect them. 'Facts' showing lockdowns don't work, but those facts fail to take into account what happens if there was no lockdown. If loads of staff are off because they have it, then businesses can't run anyway, or it affects them so they can't run at full capacity, and therefore have a drop in income or lose money. I've yet to see a single person who advocates just letting things run as normal explain how to counteract that side of things, apart from saying shit like, 'well 80 year olds aren't working so how will businesses be affected'.

 

[Playford7]

If you run out of stuff and can't get a delivery slot or anything just give me a shout. Obviously coming to Boro is a bit like being an extra on a Mad Max movie, and I'll have to swap my alloys for steel wheels so I don't drive home on bricks, but I'll brave it if needed

As an aside (and not aimed at you), this is why I kick off so much with people who post 'facts' showing that it only affects over 80's etc. It doesn't, it affects everyone. It might not kill many younger people, but it does affect them. 'Facts' showing lockdowns don't work, but those facts fail to take into account what happens if there was no lockdown. If loads of staff are off because they have it, then businesses can't run anyway, or it affects them so they can't run at full capacity, and therefore have a drop in income or lose money. I've yet to see a single person who advocates just letting things run as normal explain how to counteract that side of things, apart from saying shit like, 'well 80 year olds aren't working so how will businesses be affected'.

I know it wasn’t mate and appreciate your gesture and words.

ive said my peace and also held my hands up and will be of the same opinion as you if anyone should call corona ‘a cold’ or a over reaction again.

It’s a crying shame it’s had to come to this for me to realise and wake the fuck up, but I have.

I just urge anyone who who doubts it at all look at my posts, I don’t give a shit about what people think and I’ll fight my corner with anyone...

but I came here cap in hand to say sorry and say it how it is... seriously not being dramatic or a pussy, but this bastard is a real killer.

sorry for my language, but I’m beyond shocked at what I’ve learned and sadly witnessed just from Saturday evening.

 

[Masquerade67]

Agree for the most part but a small part of me wonders if Utopia is actually a possibility and we could all live a good, clean standard of living with an enjoyable quality of life on a worldwide basis were it not for greed etc etc.

There is a lot of unused land and a lot already used that could be put to better use. A lot of crap we dont need and a lot of work that people will jump over others to get. Its definitely a rat race for the most.

Nature does have a way of culling species which in turn, 9 times out of 10, makes the species stronger. The problem is the path we are taking or being guided down is not one that will benefit all worldwide and it diverts from the natural progression too far for my liking.

I mean what do we really need for a good life? A few chickens, good music, love and nights with our friends for some.

Alright all.

won’t make a massive issue with this but I’m sorry.

I massively underestimated Covid, I played it down a lot and offended people, for that Iam sorry.

I speak my mind a lot and say how I feel all the time, but on the other hand when I’m wrong I’m also big enough and daft enough to again hold my hands up and say i was wrong.

my mate at work who I shared my apartment with last week isn’t well at all with Covid.

I had to be tested and have to isolate ten days, thankfully I’m negative (corona cooking keeps me immune)

joking aside 3 of my work mates are in ICU with Covid and our engineers are dropping like flies (the directors words not mine)

under play this virus at your peril seriously guys, you know me I won’t talk shit and certainly won’t back down to any man.

but I’m v wrong about this.

im starting to get a terrible cough and my chest feels tight, this is after testing negative...
I’ll not be seeing my daughter for over 10 days and won’t be going anywhere.

karma a lot will say, and guess what.. your 100% right.

ben

Hope all pans out well Ben. Stay safe and keep cooking.

 

[Playford7]

Hope all pans out well Ben. Stay safe and keep cooking.

Cheers pal, wrapped up warm with my dog.
The hatches are firmly battened down until the 25th when I’m allowed to return to work.

unless of course i go downhill and get worse, will probably go for another test tomorrow as not feeling great and better to know than not.

cheers for your words

Ben

 

[dealer wins]

Playford wishing you a speedy recovery mate, whether its from covid or another bug.

I know im literally the black sheep on this thread, but I have never said covid isnt a nasty virus, that kills.

I still maintain the fact that lockdowns only make the situation much worse overall, will kill many more people in the end, and violate our basic human rights.

What we needed from day one was resources thrown into care homes and hospitals to try to stop the spread as it was known that being 70+ was the big risk of deaths.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

I got a negative result today.

but as said my mate who I worked with last week is positive and can’t even talk he’s that poorly.

I’m ok, not 100% and cough and chest are coming and going.

and only me and sox, got to isolate for ten days, so lots of Netflix and winter gardening.

thankyou for asking after me and hope your well.

ben

Best wishes Ben.

Quite possible you got a false negative. I know a few people who tested negative first time then 2 days later came back positive.

I got exposed on New Years Day and I must say that was a feature of mine too, chest tightness that came and went. Would be OK for a day then the next day chest would be tight again. A very weird virus.

All the best.

 

[colinsunderland]

Playford wishing you a speedy recovery mate, whether its from covid or another bug.

I know im literally the black sheep on this thread, but I have never said covid isnt a nasty virus, that kills.

I still maintain the fact that lockdowns only make the situation much worse overall, will kill many more people in the end, and violate our basic human rights.

What we needed from day one was resources thrown into care homes and hospitals to try to stop the spread as it was known that being 70+ was the big risk of deaths.

That isn't a fact, it's an opinion, and it's at best a pessimistic prediction of the future, one that you have absolutely no basis for making, as you just make things up in your head from what you've read on social media.
You have said it isn't a horrible virus, try telling that to the families of the 37000 people currently in hospital with it, many of them young and healthy.

 

[Playford7]

Playford wishing you a speedy recovery mate, whether its from covid or another bug.

I know im literally the black sheep on this thread, but I have never said covid isnt a nasty virus, that kills.

I still maintain the fact that lockdowns only make the situation much worse overall, will kill many more people in the end, and violate our basic human rights.

What we needed from day one was resources thrown into care homes and hospitals to try to stop the spread as it was known that being 70+ was the big risk of deaths.

Mate ill defend your freedom of speech 110% of the time.

I do like you.

but my Covid rants where based on what I saw and was told by people close to it, it was only till it hit me hard personally I grasped the reality.

I don’t post links or stats, I only post what I think and have seen.

regards lockdowns etc mate, after seeing my mates end up in ICU after months of seeing zero Covid issues close to me I’d lock the country down big style till this thing is a tiny risk.

as you know I thought it was a tiny risk, probably still is..

until it happens to you, you get your mates wife in tears as her lad can’t breath and she’s taking him to hospital.

as said I’ll always defend your right to say anything, but what I’ve seen and witnessed since Saturday have knocked me sick mate.

best regards

ben

 

[mcgameboy]

im starting to get a terrible cough and my chest feels tight, this is after testing negative...
I’ll not be seeing my daughter for over 10 days and won’t be going anywhere.

karma a lot will say, and guess what.. your 100% right.

ben

That sounds a little bit ominous Ben. Being an ex-smoker and also an ex-asthma sufferer, I know that tight chest feeling all too well.

And it ain't nice.

Stay safe and be careful, especially with the smoking (much easier said than done, of course, especially if you are bored and/or stressed).
Get well soon fella.

 

[dealer wins]

Ben totally get it mate, but if we destroy our economy over this, then it will cause untold deaths more than covid will.

The NHS eats £500,000,000 a day, all needs to be paid for by our economy being fully functioning.

 

[Playford7]

Best wishes Ben.

Quite possible you got a false negative. I know a few people who tested negative first time then 2 days later came back positive.

I got exposed on New Years Day and I must say that was a feature of mine too, chest tightness that came and went. Would be OK for a day then the next day chest would be tight again. A very weird virus.

All the best.

Cheers mate,

See how I fare in the morning but chances are I’m going for another test.

my cough and chest and odd taste just don’t feel right, it’s not like anything I’ve had before, hopefully I’m wrong but I’m not messing about with this as it’s not worth it.

 

[dealer wins]

Also dont forget your colleagues got this whilst we are in a full lockdown, so they obviously dont stop people getting it. If anything, forcing people to stay indoors where they will inevitably mix, probably makes it spread worse.

 

[Playford7]

Ben totally get it mate, but if we destroy our economy over this, then it will cause untold deaths more than covid will.

The NHS eats £500,000,000 a day, all needs to be paid for by our economy being fully functioning.

Before Saturday I’d totally agree, but not now mate.

3 work mates ended up in ICU, one is still there.

and that poor kid I lent £100 to last week who shared my apartment with is going to hospital as we speak, he’s 20... no past issues or health conditions, he couldn’t talk as he’s trying that hard to breath.

fuck the economy, people come first..

yeah I’m a conservative, yeah I follow the proud boys etc.. but ignore all that BS, I’m still a human.

 

[dealer wins]

Without an economy, we wont have an NHS. We were running a financial deficit before covid, there is a very real threat of a serious if not catastrophic collapse, which would cause 100x the covid death toll. I dont want that to be honest.

 

[colinsunderland]

Also dont forget your colleagues got this whilst we are in a full lockdown, so they obviously dont stop people getting it. If anything, forcing people to stay indoors where they will inevitably mix, probably makes it spread worse.

They weren't in lockdown, they were essential workers, so your argument fails there instantly.
Forcing people to stay indoors where legally they CANNOT mix does not make it spread worse, unless people ignore the rules and mix households.

The economy will suffer for a number of years, so will every other countries worldwide. It will recover and will not collapse. There is no evidence that that will happen in the UK.

 

[Playford7]

Without an economy, we wont have an NHS. We were running a financial deficit before covid, there is a very real threat of a serious if not catastrophic collapse, which would cause 100x the covid death toll. I dont want that to be honest.

I don’t know enough about the economics and the plausible outcomes of this tbh mate.

but i get that it can’t continue as is and agree with you on that.

Sadly I don’t have a answer nor solution, and at the moment it’s not on the top of my list of priorities.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

I am sure if you ask nicely @ESCJAMIE would volunteer to wipe your brow if needs be.....
Hope it wont come to that, best wishes for a speedy recovery and a boring 10 days for you with no drama.

Always here for Ben

 

[dealer wins]

They weren't in lockdown, they were essential workers, so your argument fails there instantly.
Forcing people to stay indoors where legally they CANNOT mix does not make it spread worse, unless people ignore the rules and mix households.

The economy will suffer for a number of years, so will every other countries worldwide. It will recover and will not collapse. There is no evidence that that will happen in the UK.

We are in a full lockdown, essential workers alway need to work, otherwise we wont have power, heat, food, health services or many other things that keep us alive.

Do you actually want that?

 

[Playford7]

Always here for Ben

I knew in my hour of need my queen in shining armour would be there for me mate haha x

 

[shadow123]

Hi Ben

Really sorry to hear you and your and mates are having problems and wish you all a speedy recovery.
Please dont beat yourself up about having had differing opinions in the,past,you were quite entitled to your views.
Unfortunately when this bloody disease starts to get close to home it does bring home the reality of what is happening
and tends to change your views rapidly.There have been times when I have started to let my guard down and become
too relaxed,but when a close friends daughter caught it at school and gave it all her family and another friend
of a friend died after being in a coma for weeks,it was wake up call.
Lets just hope that all those who want the jab can get it in the near future and lockdowns will just be a bad memory soon.

Chris

 

[Playford7]

Hi Ben

Really sorry to hear you and your and mates are having problems and wish you all a speedy recovery.
Please dont beat yourself up about having had differing opinions in the,past,you were quite entitled to your views.
Unfortunately when this bloody disease starts to get close to home it does bring home the reality of what is happening
and tends to change your views rapidly.There have been times when I have started to let my guard down and become
too relaxed,but when a close friends daughter caught it at school and gave it all her family and another friend
of a friend died after being in a coma for weeks,it was wake up call.
Lets just hope that all those who want the jab can get it in the near future and lockdowns will just be a bad memory soon.

Chris

Cheers mate for the tolerance and the kind words, appreciate it.

sadly it’s taken something like this to shake my head and wake me up to the reality of what we all are facing.

I just hope those that don’t get the gravity of this don’t learn the hard way like me, as it’s not pleasant and certainly not anything I’d wish on another.

kind regards

ben and sox

 

[colinsunderland]

We are in a full lockdown, essential workers alway need to work, otherwise we wont have power, heat, food, health services or many other things that keep us alive.

Do you actually want that?

What? No the opposite. You said we were in lockdown and they still got it. I said they got it while we were in lockdown as they had to be working.
If they weren't at work and sat at home (like millions of workers) they wouldn't have caught it.
The millions of people currently furloughed, if they are following the rules, not mixing with others, won't catch it as they are sitting at home. People catch it when they don't follow the rules. Some people catch it when they have to take risks and go to work. That number is smaller when most people are not at work. The NHS can cope with those numbers, which is one of the main objectives of having lockdowns.

You on the other hand seem to think lockdowns don't work and actually increase transmission, despite every single bit of credible evidence, and just basic common sense, telling you the complete opposite.

There are some forums out there where people believe the earth is flat. You might want to seek those out and join, as I have a feeling you might find more people you would agree with on there. Ones who ignore all available credible evidence, however compelling, and just make their own up.

 

[Playford7]

They weren't in lockdown, they were essential workers, so your argument fails there instantly.
Forcing people to stay indoors where legally they CANNOT mix does not make it spread worse, unless people ignore the rules and mix households.

The economy will suffer for a number of years, so will every other countries worldwide. It will recover and will not collapse. There is no evidence that that will happen in the UK.

We where and are key workers/essential mate.

I’m due to return to work the 25th according to track and trace via the NHS, obviously as feel like shite I’ll get tested again tomorrow and should i be positive this will be delayed.

 

[dealer wins]

We've tried lockdowns, tiers, firebreaks etc for 302 days, THEY DONT FUCKING WORK!!!! All they are doing is costing millions of people their jobs, livelihoods, health, sanity and futures, and storing up hundreds of thousands of avoidable deaths.

 

[colinsunderland]

We where and are key workers/essential mate.

I’m due to return to work the 25th according to track and trace via the NHS, obviously as feel like shite I’ll get tested again tomorrow and should i be positive this will be delayed.

yes and this is what i'm trying to get across to dealer and his made up shite.

If you weren't an essential worker, and your workplace was closed, your fellow workers were furloughed and following the rules, would your 3 mates be in ICU and would your mate be on his way to hospital? No? That shows lockdown is working. Dealer thinks in that situation, MORE people would catch it.

 

[colinsunderland]

We've tried lockdowns, tiers, firebreaks etc for 302 days, THEY DONT FUCKING WORK!!!! All they are doing is costing millions of people their jobs, livelihoods, health, sanity and futures, and storing up hundreds of thousands of avoidable deaths.

THEY DO FUCKING WORK
what is wrong with you? I've asked you before and will ask again, seeing as you insist on spouting the same shite over and over again.

If they don't work, what is the reason for all the figures to drop EVERY SINGLE TIME we have gone into a lockdown? Then rise EVERY SINGLE TIME we remove lockdown?

If what you are saying is true, it should be a simple answer, don't talk about anything else like job losses, they are irrelevant. The sole purpose of a lockdown is to slow transmission rates, which then has a knock on effect of less people needing NHS help, therefore making them able to cope. That is it. How do they not do that?

 

[dealer wins]

Look at Sweden, it says it all, they really REALLY dont work!!

 

[Playford7]

yes and this is what i'm trying to get across to dealer and his made up shite.

If you weren't an essential worker, and your workplace was closed, your fellow workers were furloughed and following the rules, would your 3 mates be in ICU and would your mate be on his way to hospital? No? That shows lockdown is working. Dealer thinks in that situation, MORE people would catch it.

Well no mate as we would be at home watching Netflix and not surveying hospitals, police stations, social housing builds etc...

Have to work though col as someone needs to provide comms and ensure others have access to phone, net etc...

Hardly as important as nurses or doctors, but it’s a job that needed doing.

 

[dealer wins]

And even if they do work, they will still cause more deaths overall, and put or economy and financial future at risk of collapse.

 

[colinsunderland]

Well no mate as we would be at home watching Netflix and not surveying hospitals, police stations, social housing builds etc...

Have to work though col as someone needs to provide comms and ensure others have access to phone, net etc...

Hardly as important as nurses or doctors, but it’s a job that needed doing.

well dealer keeps telling us it's a fact that not just the ones who have caught it, but more of you would, if you were sat at home watching netflix, because lockdowns increase the transmission rate somewhow