BuzzLuck - New CW group casino

What a gigantic mess up! I am sure the powers that be at CW are ready to beat their head on a rock! LOL!

However, this does bring up some pretty scary thoughts on my part. If all the casinos use the same chat (I mean we know that Rival does so it stands to reason the rest do also), then your personal information could be in the hands of unscrupulous individuals. Live chat has the ability to pull up alot of your personal player information so who is seeing what?

Things that make you go Hmmmm?
 
Still not fixed. Time to page to programmers ASAP!!

info: A site operator will be with you momentarily.
info: Hi! Thank you for using our LiveChat Service. This is 'Mayela'. Please verify your Email and Phone Number so that I can assist you.
*****: Hi I was wanting to deposit here. what is the casino group again?
Mayela: Hello
Mayela: WWW.PALACEOFCHANCE.COM
*****: ok cool thanks.
 
30 Minutes should be enough to inform the call center agents about the new casino. :lolup:

It´s not surprising for me that different casinos share the same support.

There is NO shared support here. It's TWO completely different casino groups who both happen to use RTG software. RTG software has a live chat software in place that both groups use. As NuWorks stemmed from RTG, the same live chat software is being used. This was a monumental screw-up, yes...all of these theories of a connection between the two operations are of no merit.

As for 30 minutes being enough time, I believe this is easy for you to say, but you were not involved in the situation to see it unfold. I was and I'll try to explain how things played out...

I received an email from a GoneGambling member, bringing attention to the problem. I immediately phoned management at the casino, at his home. Remember, when all this was happening it was already midnite in the UK. I explained what was happening and the manager asked if I could contact the GG member to try and get further information. While I was doing this, the manager was contacting the CWC IT. The IT dived straight into things in an attempt to find how/why this issue was occurring. While the IT was busy with this, the manager was placing calls to RTG and NuWorks. At this point, no one was certain if this was an isolated incident or something bigger.

Minutes after this, the company's IT was able to identify what was causing the problem, which created more calls to RTG and NuWorks. It was at this point that I noticed the posts here at CM. I contacted the manager again and he briefly explained what was going on. I realized he had more than enough to deal with between the IT, RTG and NuWorks, so I offered to post a reply here.

It was only during this period of time that a few players contacted support at CWC. There was no 'mad dash' of players tearing up the phone lines, email boxes and live chat regarding this. It was far more urgent to get the issue stopped than it was to notify support at that moment. The first chance the manager had to contact support, he did and at that point, it was only a matter of minutes before the issue was fixed. This was definitely a fire of sorts--when there's a fire, you need to put it out before you can begin doing the clean-up and that's exactly what happened here. I'm not sure that it could have been handled better or faster.

However, this does bring up some pretty scary thoughts on my part. If all the casinos use the same chat (I mean we know that Rival does so it stands to reason the rest do also), then your personal information could be in the hands of unscrupulous individuals. Live chat has the ability to pull up alot of your personal player information so who is seeing what?

Live chat is not shared. It's basically a plug-in. Someone on the software side made a big, ugly mess-up and no doubt, heads are going to roll for this. The RTG live chat software cannot pick up personal information from one operator by another operator--it just doesn't work that way.
 
Reading this thread.... :eek2:

The mixup would be funny if it wasn't so creepy. Palace of NO Chance = eeeeewwwwwwwwwww
 
bonus code mysterymeister not working for me either

Greedygirl--- is the code for gonegambling working? I signed up through casinomeister because I am a loyal member here, just curious if your bonus code is having problems.
 
Yep, it's a mystery no mo' :D

And GoneGambling has challenged Casinomeister members to a tournament.

All the information you need is located here:
Old URL

This offer is only valid via the Casinomeister or GoneGambling links. Previous players of Buzzluck are eligible too - you just need to sign back up.

I received an email from you Bryan that went straight to my spam folder. Thanks for the contest and I will definitely open an account and deposit via the CM link but why are our prizes half of what those from GG get? Doesnt this give them an advantage in the contest?
 
But Greedygirl, you are the one that said it would be fixed in 30 minutes. And over an hour later Buzzluck is still directing support to the Palace of Chance.

It has been fixed. You need to log out of the software and log back in. If you had not logged out, you would still technically be attached to the same live chat session. Log out and log back in and everything should be right.

I received an email from you Bryan that went straight to my spam folder. Thanks for the contest and I will definitely open an account and deposit via the CM link but why are our prizes half of what those from GG get? Doesnt this give them an advantage in the contest?

Hey Chuchu--I think it's probably the way I'd written things that made it a bit confusing. The bounty aspect works both ways with the tourney. If CM delivers more new players than GG during this first week and any of the CM members place anywhere from 1st to 5th, the bounty will apply. The prize will double for the CM member(s) who place in any one of those five positions. Further, if CM delivers more new players than GG and GG members place in any one of those top five spots, they will get the lower value of the prize. So let's say it sorts out like this...

CM delivers more players than GG (ain't gonna happen! :p).

1st place: GG member pays $250 (no bounty)
2nd place: CM member pays $300 ($150 doubled due to bounty)
3rd place: CM member pays $150 ($75 doubled due to bounty)
4th place: CM member pays $100 ($50 doubled due to bounty)
5th place: GG member pays $25 (no bounty)

I hope that makes it a bit clearer. It is a little confusing and at times I have rocks for brains when I'm writing. If you're still befuddled, let me know and I'll try a new angle. :)

BONUS CODES NOT WORKING

There does appear to be a problem with the bonus codes for both CM and GG and management is aware of it. They'll be tackling this first thing in the morning. They've promised to honor the 20% and they will follow through on that. I'm happy to follow up for anyone who was unsuccessful in applying either the CM or GG bonus code. Just drop me an email at: greedygirl@gonegambling.com and be sure to include your Buzzluck username.
 
Well , I am done beta testing and will let the rest of the guinea pigs find the rest of the problems. One other issue I noticed was when clicking the cashier button I was asked if I want to log out . No way in hell I try to explain this to live chat (at POC or CWC). No telling what else is screwed up. I'm watching the world series instead.

I did try the live chat and I guess it is fixed. The drop down listed CWC casinos along with Buzzluck. Only problem was, after 10 minutes of me waiting trying to verify it was CWC support never answered. Figures.
 
For some reason the casino software fails to acknowledge when someone signs out of the casino software, It's been 30mins since I last logged and It's telling me that I'm still logged in and to wait 10min before logging in again, This problem always occurs.
 
This is so priceless. After wasting time on chat the rep finally ask... "what casino do you play at?" When I tell him Buzzluck he goes "I'm sorry that's not one of our casino's, log out and try again." :eek:

After signing up and trying to log on I noticed the password field is WAY shorter than what was allowed during sign up. So the password I used at signup doesn't work. I would have figured it just cut off the last few letters/numbers but it seems that I can't log in no matter what I try.

I'm about to deposit at 3dice I guess if I can't get this working this morning. I'm at my extra job and wanted to kill some time playing. :(

Also tried the "forgot password" 3 times and never received any information in my email.
 
IMO the best solution would be just to disable Live Chat at Buzzluck and start dealing with problem. I'm curious why it wasn't done immediately after an error occurred ...
 
Jeese!! What a nightmare. I guess here is a reason why iNetBet eschews live chat.

My apologies to everyone. This should have never happened, and I am flabbergasted that the chat persons would even consider trying to hijack another operator's players. POC just sunk to another level of low.

The mysterymeister coupon is ONLY for those who signed up early via the Mystery Casino links. There have been announcements throughout the forum and newsletter for the past ten days or so about this. If you didn't sign up early, it's not my fault. Everyone who signed up should have received a notice via email.

GreedyGirl has been instrumental in being in the right time zone to assist everyone on this. Thanks! And yes, there is a tournament scheduled at GG that Casinomeister members will clean up on.

NuWorks is a variant of RTG. I'm thinking it's a bit like the old MGS Viper casinos that MGS was launching in the early 2000s. New and improved - it's about time :D
 
Jeese!! What a nightmare. I guess here is a reason why iNetBet eschews live chat.

My apologies to everyone. This should have never happened, and I am flabbergasted that the chat persons would even consider trying to hijack another operator's players. POC just sunk to another level of low.

The mysterymeister coupon is ONLY for those who signed up early via the Mystery Casino links. There have been announcements throughout the forum and newsletter for the past ten days or so about this. If you didn't sign up early, it's not my fault. Everyone who signed up should have received a notice via email.

GreedyGirl has been instrumental in being in the right time zone to assist everyone on this. Thanks! And yes, there is a tournament scheduled at GG that Casinomeister members will clean up on.

NuWorks is a variant of RTG. I'm thinking it's a bit like the old MGS Viper casinos that MGS was launching in the early 2000s. New and improved - it's about time :D


It certainly IS like the Microgaming Viper product, riddled with bugs:rolleyes:

Some of these problems should have been spotted right away during as little as ONE internal test run as they are permanent bugs, rather than trickier intermittent faults. Most also indicate careless overall coding control, with the sections written by different teams not always fitting together. For example, the programmers who constructed registration allowed for a longer user created password than the team who constructed the login, thus it is possible that some users will never be able to log in to the account they created. In terms of security, general advice is to create a "strong" password, so many players would take advantage of all the characters they are allowed for this at registration, and end up locked out of their accounts.

The POC redirect seems to indicate that a fair portion of the code was "cut & paste" and then alteration of a few lines. Unfortunately, a critical piece of code was not altered, and unfortunately created a default condition where live chat went to the worst possible place in the whole of RTG.

With this being new software, it creates a bad impression of this software being "buggy" and perhaps "amateur".

The POC chat only did what they have been told to do, and it is curious that a procedure was already in place to take advantage of the situation where the RTG live chat plug-in misdirected players from other operators their way. It looks as though they were already aware that this vulnerabilty existed in the software. Although the software doesn't allow POC to get hold of personal details, once aware, the POC live chat agents could ask players for these details, and then use them for spamming by phone and email. Players may give out such details assuming they are dealing with Buzluck support.

It is lucky that the problem was caught when relatively few players were signing up.

Another unfortunate thing is that the link to RTG will lead to the same "conspiracy theories" being directed towards NuWorks games, such as operators being able to set RTP, and unlike RTG, we have no assurance that such a function has to go via request to NuWorks, rather than being something any operator can use.
It should not be a problem when a reputable group uses the software, but in the future it is likely that the rogue groups will start launching NuWorks casinos alongside the RTG product. I can't see Virtual NOT doing this, and they will most likely do it via a different name in order to disguise the connection.

The bonus code issue seems to be a case of something special being set up, and support not being made aware, thus when codes don't work they take the attitude that the player is trying to "scam" them by using a restricted code that has been illegally shared on a "bonus bagging forum", and so are taking the "jobsworth" attitude rather than actually trying to fix the problem, which I am sure they CAN do by manually applying the code from their end.

This argument from the CS about the player "not having used the right affiliate" will sound like a load of BS for many players, who have no idea what it all means, and as far as they are concerned obeyed all the instructions for eligibilty. For such players, all they will see is a "bait & switch", which will create a bad first impression. This is made worse by the reply "no promotions are available" when players ask about alternatives to the non working code. This gives the impression that after any welcome bonus, there is nothing for loyal players. The only type of bonus player not bothered by a lack of ongoing offers is the type the casino doesn't want, those who play only the welcome bonus and never come back.
 
Jeese!! What a nightmare. I guess here is a reason why iNetBet eschews live chat.

My apologies to everyone. This should have never happened, and I am flabbergasted that the chat persons would even consider trying to hijack another operator's players. POC just sunk to another level of low.

The mysterymeister coupon is ONLY for those who signed up early via the Mystery Casino links. There have been announcements throughout the forum and newsletter for the past ten days or so about this. If you didn't sign up early, it's not my fault. Everyone who signed up should have received a notice via email.

GreedyGirl has been instrumental in being in the right time zone to assist everyone on this. Thanks! And yes, there is a tournament scheduled at GG that Casinomeister members will clean up on.

NuWorks is a variant of RTG. I'm thinking it's a bit like the old MGS Viper casinos that MGS was launching in the early 2000s. New and improved - it's about time :D

Bryan -- I did sign up EARLY for the Mystery Casino link. I did get your email and the code, it just isn't working.

Diane
 
But Greedygirl, you are the one that said it would be fixed in 30 minutes. And over an hour later Buzzluck is still directing support to the Palace of Chance.

Greedygirl is just the messenger. Please be cool.

Bryan -- I did sign up EARLY for the Mystery Casino link. I did get your email and the code, it just isn't working.

Diane

Yep, I've been informed of such. They are working on this.
 
I'm in the same boat as Cleveland, I downloaded the casino, registered and created my account. When I went to log in My password didn't work!:confused:
I used the 'forgotten password' link which sent the password I had created(It was correct) to my email and I pasted that in to the logon screen in the software and that didn't work either!:mad:
I ended up depositing elsewhere as I was completely frustrated and confused with what was happening!

Over all not a great first impression at all after reading this thread and my own experience!:rolleyes:

I will give it another chance though as I have full trust in Bryan and CM and can see that this was just a major hiccup that was beyond CWC's control. I trust CWC fully as well and don't think jumping ship over a stuff up is warranted or fair!

Sh*t Happens..... I'll try again tomorrow to log on or have my password reset.

Cheers
Gremmy
 
Just spoke to the operator over the phone and found out what had happened. When the software was launched it still included the chat script leftover from the beta version. POC was the test casino when they had the beta version going, so this is why POC appeared in the chat. So any player that logged into chat would have had POC, and any casino with scruples would have informed the player that there had been a mistake, and directed them to Buzzluck. But here is just another example that POC aka the Virtual Casino Group are the worst of the worst. Thanks to those who have posted the chats here in this thread.

The chat script was replaced within 15 minutes of the first alert. But if you hadn't logged out, you were still connected to the older version. I see that there have been issues of logging out. I hope that this will be rectified soon.

For those of you that can't seem to use the bonus code, please PM me and I'll square you away. It seems there was a problem with the tag (mostly my fault).

Thanks for the feedback - sorry things were a bit more bumpier than usual.
 
No way it was fixed 15 minutes after alert. I was logging out every time. It was over an hour after I posted here and according to GG they were already alerted before I posted.

Well perhaps it didn't log you out properly. You aren't the only one who had this problem. No need to get all bent out of shape over it either.
 
If I were having log out issues I wouldn't have been able to log back in. The lobby even updated when I logged back in. The problem is you and GG are trying to run cover for CWC because you obviously have a vested interest in them making money. I dont, the fact is CWC was in such a rush to get this software out they didn't thoroughly test it. Resulting in their customers being directed to a crooked casino for assistance. You cant deny this was a major screw up and there is no need to candy coat what happened. If anything Club World Group needs to address what happened instead of the forum mods.
 
No luck for me at BuzzLuck or Lucky Club, games were so-so, features took 200+ spins to come in almost every game and gave little returns even in fun mode :p

Seems RTG to me! :)
 
CWC screwed up no doubt about it but to say that Bryan and co. are trying to cover up for them is a bit far-fetched. Knowing CM, the guy must be feeling uneasy over the whole affair and as he and Greedygirl cooperated with CWC to organise the competition he must have been shocked to see to learn of the link to POC. C'mon the guy's history of dealing with the rogues speaks volumes so this hiccup is forgivable. Not so for CWC though as they probably wanted to beat Lucky Club to it and the setup is a dismal failure. Makes the sloto transition seem tops in comparison.
 

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