New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[snorky510238]

erm, no
because weighted and random arent synonymous
slots are designed with an rtp designed to take our money and make the casino money, and results weighted in favour of more small returns than large ones

Why then does it not say every spin is weighted instead of random. I could live with that.

 

[steveh35]

Slots state they are random... if they was you’d be seeing wilds everywhere a lot funny how with bonanza it’s the same old crap

Slots can't be random or else the casinos and games companies could just not pay out ever and say well it's random that the slot never paid, that why we have rtp, in effect in order to make them fair to payout they have to be fixed.

 

[dionysus]

Slots state they are random... if they was you’d be seeing wilds everywhere a lot funny how with bonanza it’s the same old crap

again, weighted isnt a synonym for random

 

[dionysus]

Why then does it not say every spin is weighted instead of random. I could live with that.

lol becaue it took about 300 pages in the AMA thread to get it across, could you imagine the game trying to explain this

 

[snorky510238]

lol becaue it took about 300 pages in the AMA thread to get it across, could you imagine the game trying to explain this

It would be easier than trying to explain its weighted and random. Most people who think logically can’t accept that and strictly speaking they are right. If you check the definition of random one of the immediate criteria it has to meet is outcomes cannot be influenced. Oops don’t think slots quite pass that one. Never mind it’s only the main word in slot marketing that leads people to think it’s pure luck. Nobody will notice.

 

[steveh35]

Just out of curiosity why has SG sleeve gone back to Big Time Gaming?
Just played this at Vera & John and the cascades have speeded up I assume they are using the Quickspin version as the autoplay is greyed out

 

[Jono777]

It would be easier than trying to explain its weighted and random. Most people who think logically can’t accept that and strictly speaking they are right. If you check the definition of random one of the immediate criteria it has to meet is outcomes cannot be influenced. Oops don’t think slots quite pass that one. Never mind it’s only the main word in slot marketing that leads people to think it’s pure luck. Nobody will notice.

I've always thought of all slots (land based B3's, online, whatever) to work along the following

SCRIPTED and PRE-DETERMINED outcomes which are distributed RANDOMLY

My mind set on that will never change.

 

[myke35]

...and another round of absolute filth Bonanza. Me & you are on a break.

 

[steveh35]

Not sure I like the faster version but I suppose it will up BTG's profits no end to make it faster.

 

[snorky510238]

I've always thought of all slots (land based B3's, online, whatever) to work along the following

SCRIPTED and PRE-DETERMINED outcomes which are distributed RANDOMLY

My mind set on that will never change.

Yes that’s how I see it. With a few extra hamsters on the rng wheel now and again. The problem for me is you can’t sell random that way. The 2 don’t mix. People always use the balls in the bag scenario. Thus claiming if you have six green balls (losing) 3 red (pays 1.5) and one white (pays x5). The figures are not meant to represent anything just my example. They now tell you what is pulled out is random. Well yes that’s obvious but it doesn’t comply with truly random where each outcome must have an equal chance. It clearly doesn’t so it’s misleading. Now if that is allowed to be classed as random in the slotting world anything goes as far as I can see because that gives providers the opportunity to manipulate things to suit. Here’s an example as in if this info was available you may be able to make a more calculated decision as to wether you play this game or not. I advertise my game as having 96% trtp. I have a bag with one black ball and one white ball. It’s a £100 a go and if you pick the white ball I pay you £196 if you pick the black you lose. Now I also have a game at 96% trtp where it’s £100 a go but there are 9 black balls and one white. If you pick the white I pay you a massive £960 if you pick black you lose. All you know is the first game is low variance and the second is high variance. The games are both fair in what is stated but I have a lot of complaints regarding the second one and I am forced to publicly display through a fair play organisation how my games work. That’s so unfair I was making a fortune from the second game, now hardly anyone plays it..

 

[dionysus]

well, tbf, pretty much everyone agrees the word random is used to substitute for pseudo-random

 

[snorky510238]

well, tbf, pretty much everyone agrees the word random is used to substitute for pseudo-random

So most would agree the two aren’t the same.

 

[pinnit2014]

No wonder the bonus rounds suck - 250x on 2 quid in base. Had one shity bonus in 200 quid. Oh my, I am nutnut now.

 

[pinnit2014]

Ah it came and as expected....Sub 100x. The one above was a mass of A's. Bonus round had something similar but not as many - third reel out for a belter. bastard. Should be noted that on 2 quid it's been a different game

 

[Jono777]

Your balance makes me green and I never do jealous lol

Hanging on for dear life here on DoA on 0.09p bets, desperately trying to emulate Adam or Goaty

If the miracle does happen, for the one and only time, I shall resist the cash out button and do as many £2 spins as Bonanza will give me and go for "the big one" - you never know eh?

Keep it going, good luck for more

 

[goatwack]

I've always thought of all slots (land based B3's, online, whatever) to work along the following

SCRIPTED and PRE-DETERMINED outcomes which are distributed RANDOMLY

My mind set on that will never change.

So Ranscriptermined then

 

[nutnut]

I aint filling this shit up with my cash anymore. pinnit can replace me. i know the games o the pull when even saturday is turd.

 

[myke35]

Yes I was surprised it still stiffed me at the weekend. It didn't use to be quite so tight then.

 

[goatwack]

I aint filling this shit up with my cash anymore. pinnit can replace me. i know the games o the pull when even saturday is turd.

It really is best to leave Bonanza for a 'duration'. Playing it non-stop feels like one set of results directly influences the other and all rand.......'even' game play is almost rig........'unfair'

At least that's been my experience. I've seen it play so atrociously after a couple of minor successes that it left me in no doubt it was simply on the take

 

[aceking123]

Re-read what I said - the bonus on DoA reminds me of J*mm*n' J*rs not the base game which like Bonanza can maintain a long play duration. You've 3 HV games, DoA and Bonanza share the same kind of base game turnover although Bonanza can pay far more x bet in the base game than DoA. DoA shares a feature pattern with JJ. Bonanza has more median results in the bonus. This is why pro-rata those two DoA and JJ provide more frequent 1000x results, as I already said. I am not disagreeing about that.

I cannot however take your comments too seriously when you state "the base game has changed over the last 5 months or so" so how? Show us? The diamonds changed colour or more 10's added to the reels? The banjo player started screaming in a high C?

OR

" i dont see many if any players having the same luck as youve had since promoting them"

I mean, what the hell is that all about? I don't 'promote' any developer, only casinos same as every other aff on here. Perhaps you can explain how this situation you insinuate is executed - my IP gets a special BTG server with a 102% RTP at all casinos I play it at? The little man winds up the dial when he knows I'm playing? Do you not remember all the videos I used to post of being wiped out of £200 3 or 4 times on the bounce? Come on mate, be sensible here!

Clear as day it has rattled your cage )

 

[Mpower81]

Bonanza and me is Love and hate but I got Some big hits on this bitch stake 20 EUR bonus paid 22,5k EUR stake 20 EUR bonus paid 8,5k EUR stake 1 EUR bonus paid 1,4K EUR last one was the best even for me stake 2 EUR bonus paid 6k EUR 4 wilds and Diamonds 3000x
Last couple of days playing 10k profit Total score lost 20k EUR winnings 50k EUR

 

[Playford7]

The fabled 14000x that a guy whom has links with the most ‘honest and above board’ BTG post the only win of its kind ever.. whom also sold his business to Leo whom have exclusive rights to BTG new releases...
Nothing dodgy at all here guys, move on...
BTG and the fabled and mystical wins are a farce, ruining slotting for normal players IMO, tending to want the streamers with free money pushing there cancerous slots...
give me a decent MG slot any day over this shower...

 

[JohnSnow]

Bonanza has been one of the most dead slots for me even. But I think that play 'n go games are worse because of the much lower rtp on some casinos.

 

[interlog]

The fabled 14000x that a guy whom has links with the most ‘honest and above board’ BTG post the only win of its kind ever.. whom also sold his business to Leo whom have exclusive rights to BTG new releases...
Nothing dodgy at all here guys, move on...
BTG and the fabled and mystical wins are a farce, ruining slotting for normal players IMO, tending to want the streamers with free money pushing there cancerous slots...
give me a decent MG slot any day over this shower...

To slightly correct you.... that guy didn't have that 14,000x win. It was one of his viewers.

 

[Mpower81]

My biggest win almost 3000x on 4 wilds one Diamond on te first reel and three daimonds on the last reel multiplier 10x most of the time its 50-100 x for me.

 

[steveh35]

So do people like the faster cascades makes it difficult to see what combination you had, there should be a slow or fast option IMO.

 

[snorky510238]

So do people like the faster cascades makes it difficult to see what combination you had, there should be a slow or fast option IMO.

No I preferred it how it was before. All they needed to do was eradicate the delayed drop when the cascade was a loser. If they had made that the same speed as the others it would have been perfect IMO. Having said that in time I will probably forget how it used to be.

 

[pinnit2014]

i kinda preferred when there was a delay...it meant in the 117k MW's for example that if it there was no delay i knew there was a win. First time it happened on the QF platform, i forgot, and had a mass of rubies, went fast, and in my head i was going 'yeha....! for a split second second because i thought it was a win..

 

[steveh35]

i kinda preferred when there was a delay...it meant in the 117k MW's for example that if it there was no delay i knew there was a win. First time it happened on the QF platform, i forgot, and had a mass of rubies, went fast, and in my head i was going 'yeha....! for a split second second because i thought it was a win..

I just watched a quick clip of a Dunover vid and cannot see any delay between a loss and a win cascade.

 

[pinnit2014]

I just watched a quick clip of a Dunover vid and cannot see any delay between a loss and a win cascade.

That's because he has a special version of it don't you know

Don't think the delay is in the bonus round (or if it is, it's not as noticeable) but in the base game (under NYX Platform) there is - meant you could tell if you were getting a win - tiniest delay meant no win in base....

QF have sorted it though (though Sky Vegas's platform one was always like this)

 

[snorky510238]

I just watched a quick clip of a Dunover vid and cannot see any delay between a loss and a win cascade.

There were a handful of casinos where it didn’t happen (can’t remember which ones) but in the main it was noticeable. I notice now there are still a few different platforms for Bonanza depending where you play.

 

[pinnit2014]

There were a handful of casinos where it didn’t happen (can’t remember which ones) but in the main it was noticeable. I notice now there are still a few different platforms for Bonanza depending where you play.

I thought some of the ones who didn't have it may have been the only ones running the new QF ones but yesterday i was disappointed to see that when i logged onto VeraJohn they'd got the new one. Said before, it's not the speed that i mind but that no autoplay - i used to like leaving it, going into the Kitchen for something and coming back to see the dynamite on the screen (more enjoyable than the bonus round mainly)...now that simple pleasure may be gone

 

[Homosap]

Been playing just fine for me lately, plenty of bonuses and a few spectacular ones and decent game time.

 

[JohnSnow]

FFS

I need 1 birrion dollars by tomorrow. Guess that goal is somewhat unlikely

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LOL. Damn that feels horrible.. Been there. After how many spins did you get this incredible bonus?

 

[smart_croatia]

no D today...

 

[pinnit2014]

It’s been poor today. Had a few but couldn’t even get by 25 x on a quid. So I upped and left for DOA where I was waiting 4 spins for a wild on reel 4. One of those days

 

[goatwack]

I too only grabbed hold of a couple of Ds tonight , but alas, after bombing from £43 to £14 I jumped ship to DOA, where it did....nothing

 

[goatwack]

So where's Nutnut's Daily Update?

This is unnerving

 

[steveh35]

36x bonus

 

[pinnit2014]

Internet access is limited in the Betty Ford clinic. Plus, they’re still reviewing his case - they’ve never seen a slot affect a person in this manner

Heard he’s out tomo at 9am so I expect a Bonanza Bombasting by 9.10am

 

[pinnit2014]

And Nutnut said it played well at the weekend. The swine

 

[goatwack]

What a lying Schweinehund. He owes me £20 now!

 

[nutnut]

not played it today. can fuck off. games on the fiddle. 17 bonuses under x100 has broken me.

will play it at midnght for willhill bonus but other than that can get fucked.

 

[snorky510238]

Does make you wonder. On most games I play even the higher variance ones I do from time to time get a spell where I get 6 or 7 bonuses in around 100 spins. My record on bonanza is 3. I know that’s well above average but when you have had hundreds of sessions you would think you would hit it red hot occasionally.

 

[greylady]

It has robbed me blind for 3.5 months, never once had a bonus round over x50, taking a break from slots as it's becoming mind numbingly boring now.

 

[deepsky2]

in the last 30 min I have got the bonus 3 times. Twice 17 free spins and paid horrible and the other with 12 spins paid around$200 on a $2 bet.

 

[nutnut]

well got some bonus funds back, and just a absolute piss take. No bonuses and massive GOL drop with about 40 gaps for a D and of course doesn't land. got 10 more bonus left to use on willhill then can fuck off. week of absolute nothing. and pure shite bonuses

 

[CC07]

well got some bonus funds back, and just a absolute piss take. No bonuses and massive GOL drop with about 40 gaps for a D and of course doesn't land. got 10 more bonus left to use on willhill then can fuck off. week of absolute nothing. and pure shite bonuses

Same for me - haven’t had a decent bonus in weeks and haven’t even seen the D for days

 

[nutnut]

well small win at x300. just another 2 of them i get my losses back!!
can still get to fuck, it aint fooling me.

 

[Playford7]

To slightly correct you.... that guy didn't have that 14,000x win. It was one of his viewers.

Totally aware of that.
And never to be seen again, puff of smoke and he was gone... like keyser sose....